what is the best way to store guns for 1-year or more?


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tuj
May 3, 2014, 01:02 PM
No I'm not burying my AR's in a tube...

I am going to need to store several of my firearms in a climate controlled environment for about a year or so. Can anyone tell me what they think the best method for prepping the guns (long guns and hand guns) for storage is?

I was thinking some CLP or hoppes oil on a patch, run it through the barrels, and then plug the muzzle and breech with patches. Then coat the whole exterior of the firearm with a light coat of hoppes oil. Then place inside case with desiccant.

How would you do it?

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highorder
May 3, 2014, 02:13 PM
A light coat of oil, inside and out, stored in a locked cabinet. Don't store guns in soft/hard cases where they touch foam or lining.

1yr is nothing. There are guns in my safe I haven't touched in a year.

jbj
May 3, 2014, 02:39 PM
There are also special bags that Brownells carries. If you can purge them with nitrogen even better, but not a deal breaker.

Foam or felt on the spacers inside a safe or cabinet can be problematic. They attract moisture and foam will break down over time, and one of the byproducts is cyanide gas which is hugely corrosive to metals.

LT.Diver
May 3, 2014, 03:07 PM
Clean them, oil them, and put them away. I use a rag when I put them in the safe so I don't leave any oily, salty finger prints on them. Once in a while I'll toss a few anti-desiccant packs in there too.
Anybody store their's in a silicone gun sock? I was taught to never store in a holster, etc. so I'm a little leery of letting them touch cloth or leather, but I know some folks swear by those gun socks.

greyling22
May 3, 2014, 03:14 PM
at my house! I will feed them and pet them. Or I have a brother in houston who would do the same. ;)

philobeddoe
May 3, 2014, 03:40 PM
Mine are in silicone socks. I will swear by them.

bobinoregon
May 3, 2014, 08:47 PM
My climate controlled environment is a safe with Goldenrods, clean them and put in safe works for me. I have some guns that haven't been shot for years, wouldn't have a second thought about pulling one out, loading and shooting it.

Sol
May 3, 2014, 09:41 PM
Guns are metal (or plastic). Keep away from extreme temps, moisture, UV or direct sunlight. Coat with oil. Good to go.

I'm sure this advice will clash with some sort of metalurgists advice about storing metal. Complete with a huge explanation about how the bi-polarity of water will cause....

Enough conjecture, my concerns would be with security more than storage.

rbernie
May 3, 2014, 10:07 PM
I've had a number of guns in long term storage for many years. I clean them, give them the usual oiling, place them into water/air tight vapor phase inhibitor/VPI bags (aka 'gun condoms') , and place the VPI bag into something that pads the 'gun condom'.

I've pulled out guns that were stored this way for close to a decade so far, with zero indication when inspected that this storage method would not provide them with indefinite coverage.

hoghunting
May 4, 2014, 02:50 AM
My firearms are protected by a Golden Rod too, but I also use this aerosol when taking my guns into wet or damp hunts and it keeps them dry and happy:

http://www.brownells.com/gun-cleaning-chemicals/oils-lubricants/rust-prevention/t-9-waterproof-lube-prod9719.aspx

rondog
May 4, 2014, 03:18 AM
Get gun storage bags at www.polygunbag.com

rodinal220
May 5, 2014, 07:16 PM
These have worked well for me.

http://www.zerustproducts.com/

thefish
May 7, 2014, 12:15 AM
I had 2 shotguns from my youth recently delivered to me. They had been cleaned and lubed/ oiled and put into the soft, felt lined, zippered case I used to take them to the range in. They sat that way in a closet in my dads house in Houston for 23 years.

They look as good as they did when I put them away 23 years ago.

Just clean and oil them well. If you really want to be extra careful, I would disassemble them and store them that way, in a safe with a goldenrod.

Plugging the barrel is a bad ides because that could trap moisture. Same goes for keeping them assembled I guess.

CLP
May 8, 2014, 10:39 AM
I've used Z-corr bags for the past few years and have stored uncleaned rifles in non-ideal storage conditions (high humidity basement) and they come out looking exactly like they did going in. They can be pricey but I'm convinced they work.

243winxb
May 8, 2014, 10:53 AM
G96 Synthetic CLP Gun Oil has been APPROVED for use by the U.S. Army for 21st Century CLEANING, LUBRICATING, and PRESERVATION of both Small and Large Caliber Weapons and Weapons Systems. Military Specification MIL-PRF-63460E and NATO S-758 effective September 18, 2009.

Bernie Lomax
May 8, 2014, 01:09 PM
Can anyone tell me what they think the best method for prepping the guns (long guns and hand guns) for storage is?

Treat the bores with eezox. As for the other parts of the gun, simply clean and oil them with whatever sorts of gun juice you usually use. (You could treat the whole guns with eezox, but that's time consuming and not really necessary, as it's the bores that are most apt to rust during long-term storage, and having a little rust in other parts of the gun is not as critical to function.)

ETA:

Plugging the barrel is a bad ides because that could trap moisture.

^^^Yeah, this. don't plug your barrels. That will be ineffectual at best.

1911 guy
May 11, 2014, 03:22 AM
Climate controlled? No sweat. Clean them well, lube them well and store them where they don't contact cloth or foam. Leaned up in a closet corner will work just fine.

celem
May 11, 2014, 11:55 AM
About 25 years ago I stored two lightly oiled revolvers inside a small (30 cal) military ammo can along with an activated dessicant bag (the kind activated in the oven). A year ago I removed the revolvers from the ammo can and they were as good, clean and rust free as the day that I placed them into the can.

In case you are wondering, I used to have a large firearm collection and these two revolvers were unimportant to me yet I didn't want to get rid of them so I just stored them away.

P.S: The collection is now mostly gone.

RandyC
May 12, 2014, 11:37 AM
Depends on the environment but, as said before, a year isn't very long. I think Eezox was a good call but not critical if stored in a dry place.

If I wasn't sure about the climate conditions the most I would do is Eezox inside and Johnsons Paste Wax outside. But under good climate conditions a year is no biggy.

tuj
May 12, 2014, 11:40 AM
Thanks for all the suggestions! I went with some poly bags just to be safe. They look like a good product. In a year or so, we will know for sure!

Nom de Forum
May 12, 2014, 07:31 PM
No I'm not burying my AR's in a tube...

I am going to need to store several of my firearms in a climate controlled environment for about a year or so. Can anyone tell me what they think the best method for prepping the guns (long guns and hand guns) for storage is?

I was thinking some CLP or hoppes oil on a patch, run it through the barrels, and then plug the muzzle and breech with patches. Then coat the whole exterior of the firearm with a light coat of hoppes oil. Then place inside case with desiccant.

How would you do it?

The best way for you to prep your guns for storage is to send them to me. I'll make sure they are clean as a whistle when you need them back. I'll even exercise them for you so they don't feel neglected. ;)

Elkins45
May 18, 2014, 06:52 PM
I'm a big fan of Johnson's Paste Wax for all the exterior metal, then any good high-cling oil for the bores.

Buzznrose
May 19, 2014, 09:14 AM
When I was on active duty and left Alaska, I only had a few guns, a Mossy 500 and a Win 70, both blue and wood. The military shipped my guns with my furniture as I was driving to DE through Canada and didn't want the hassle. I cleaned both really good and applied Ballistol liberally (per advice of a friend) over the entire weapons. Then, I packed them in a foam lined travel case and thought I'd deal with them in a few months in DE.

When I got to DE, work, life, and young kids got the best of my time, and those guns ended up remaining in their gun case in a cardboard packing box never opened in a damp basement for four years. Then, with orders to Japan, they were re-packed (just opened the case, reaffirmed the serial numbers for the shipper, and put them back in the case, and shipped to storage for another three years while we lived in Japan. I finally gave my guns a thorough inspection and cleaning after arriving in TX in 2009, 7+ years after packing them in that case in Alaska, and they look as good as the day I packed them. No rust/tarnish at all on either firearm.

Not saying this is the best way to go, and maybe I lucked out, but I'm a believer in Ballistol these days.

Onward Allusion
May 21, 2014, 05:33 PM
Spray with RemOil and place into Ziplock 1 Gallon Vacuum bag & pump out all the air then put into a regular Ziplock & get as much air out as possible with a straw.

natman
May 22, 2014, 11:23 AM
I just took a collection out of a five year storage. The guns were cleaned, then wiped down inside and out with Breakfree COLLECTOR (http://www.break-free.com/products/products_collectorliquid.asp?catalog=law). This stuff is made expressly for preventing rust long term and it does a great job while still being easy to apply and remove.

The guns were then stored in VCI bags from polygunbag (http://www.polygunbag.com/gunbags.html). After 5 years in storage there wasn't a speck of rust anywhere.

oneounceload
May 22, 2014, 03:18 PM
Funny about the foam - I have one rifle in an old Doskocil foam case since I have no room in my safe. Been in the case for 11 years now - take it out once a year to check and give it a quick wipe with Remoil - no rust, no foam breakdown - and this is in nice cool arid central FLORIDA where the low humidity is 50%.....

Just sayin'....................

natman
May 23, 2014, 11:50 AM
Funny about the foam - I have one rifle in an old Doskocil foam case since I have no room in my safe. Been in the case for 11 years now - take it out once a year to check and give it a quick wipe with Remoil - no rust, no foam breakdown - and this is in nice cool arid central FLORIDA where the low humidity is 50%.....


It's not guaranteed that a gun in a foam case will rust, just much more likely than if it's stored in the open.

Trust me, I've seen plenty of foam rusted guns, sometimes with the waffle pattern of the foam transferred in rust to the gun.

rbernie
May 23, 2014, 03:08 PM
Notice how every single person in this thread that's mentioned VPI bags has stated how well they work, without specialized cleaning and lube/wax routines?

That's 'cuz that is how it works. Having spend decades storing guns in various ways, I can categorically state that I will never NOT use VPI bags for long term storage. They just work.

natman
May 23, 2014, 08:44 PM
Notice how every single person in this thread that's mentioned VPI bags has stated how well they work, without specialized cleaning and lube/wax routines?

Not me. See post #25. I used VCI bags WITH Breakfree COLLECTOR. Now, I'll admit that it's entirely possible that the VCI bags would have prevented rust without the oil, but it ease of application is the primary reason I selected COLLECTOR over alternatives and I wasn't going to experiment without the oil.

That's 'cuz that is how it works. Having spend decades storing guns in various ways, I can categorically state that I will never NOT use VPI bags for long term storage. They just work.

If I ever have to store guns long term again, I won't hesitate to use VCI bags again. I'll probably use COLLECTOR again as well.

4v50 Gary
May 25, 2014, 09:52 PM
Grease. Heavy coat of grease.

rcmodel
May 25, 2014, 11:01 PM
R.I.G. applied with a RIG-RAG.
Then stored with open air circulation so nothing that can hold humidity or mosture comes in contact with the metal.

http://www.brownells.com/gun-cleaning-chemicals/oils-lubricants/rust-prevention/rig-universal-gun-grease-prod31842.aspx

http://www.brownells.com/gun-cleaning-chemicals/oils-lubricants/rust-prevention/rig-rag-universal-grease-applicator-prod31843.aspx

I, and numerous other gun collectors have used it successfully for 50 or more years.
Including the S&W collectors whose gun photos appear in the Standard Catalog of S&W bible.

One of whom, Mr. Gary Skeet, tipped me off on RIG & open air circulation storage in 1960 something.

rc

readyeddy
May 29, 2014, 11:39 PM
If it's climate controlled, i.e. air conditioned and dry, then there is no risk of rust. Just clean and oil your gun as normal and store.

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