So, a guy walked into the restaurant tonight


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rcmodel
May 10, 2014, 08:32 PM
Carrying an old leather case that appeared to have a sword hilt sticking out of it!

So, being the curious sort of guy I am? (I just can't help it!)

I very cautiously went over and ask him what it was.
'Great-Granddads old Civil War sword he fought the good fight at Gettysburg with!' he proudly told me!

'Can I see it?' I ask.
Sure?
So he whips out a gleaming sword in the middle of a crowed restaurant on Saturday night! :what:

Turns out it was an old Henderson-Ames Knights Of Pythias Ceremony Sword in most excellent condition.
About like this, only better made, fancier, and much better condition!
And Ivory handle instead of black.

Must have been the Grand-Pubah's Exalted Sword?

http://www.orangepawnshop.com/antique-knight-of-pythias-ceremony-sword-with-scabbord-leather-case-by-henderson-ames-co.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_Pythias

Not a cheap stamped out blade either.

Fully acid etch engraved, gold filled, and what might very well have been a real ivory handle!
(To dark for me too see well enough to tell for sure, but if it wasn't real ivory, it was very very good imitation ivory for the time.)
But in perfect condition.

The engraved metal sheath and the cloth bag were hopelessly stuck down inside the leather case.
I got that out using two table forks as tweezers / tongs!
(I had a whole crowd looking over my shoulders before I pulled it all out!)

Again, the metal sheath and cloth bag still in perfect shape, with the guys name engraved on the scabbard.

I gave him a brief history of it, and told him it wasn't civil war, but late 1800 - early 1900.
I also told him it was only worth 1/20th as much as the price he told me it was worth.
Bummer! :eek:
But he seemed to accepted my appraisal.

He said the family history of it must have gone askew years ago.

Turns out, He brought it to the restaurant to pass it on to his 30-something grandson with the rest of the family present to witness it.

So the grandson opened the case, pulled it out far enough to see the pommel, took a glance at it, then stuffed it back in the case.
And laid it on the floor under his table with the pointy end of the case setting on a table leg 4" off the floor.
And the handle end sticking out in the aisle with people stepping over or tripping over it all during the meal.

Looks like it made it 100 years in perfect condition, but may not make it through tonight without getting stepped on and bent hopelessly beyond repair!

Anyway, my $20.00 steak dinner got cold before I got to eat it! :cuss:

But it was worth it!!!! :D

rc

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Yo Mama
May 10, 2014, 08:59 PM
Remember everyone, when RC goes to eat he'll eyeball your edc :). I do it do, but you know more than I do...... a lot more....... more than.. well you know.

Dave P
May 10, 2014, 09:07 PM
"Anyway, my $20.00 steak dinner got cold before I got to eat it!"

Well, for that price, it prolly wasn't too good to start with!! :)

A shame, about the sword being "abused". Kids these days ...

rcmodel
May 10, 2014, 09:44 PM
Well, for that price, it prolly wasn't too good to start with!!Well, that wasn't very nice if you, if you haven't been there! :scrutiny:

It actually was a real good tender steak, before it got cold.
They grow cows across the street the next field over here in Kansas.
You can't sell real bad steaks to Kansas farm boys and stay in business very long!

Plus, Saturday night is Happy-Hour = Steak Special night.

SO, it was actually a $30 steak the rest of the week!!

I know, a $30 steak probably isn't fit to eat either where you eat.

But some of use have to do what we have to do, just to get by! :D

rc

ole farmerbuck
May 10, 2014, 10:05 PM
Come west RC. I'll fix ya a steak from a corn fed steer! (free)

twofifty
May 10, 2014, 10:09 PM
lol. Maybe Dave P just learned steak comes from cows.

Too bad the grandson was disrespectful of his grandpa.

bikerdoc
May 10, 2014, 10:37 PM
:) The only other person that would happen to would be me RC.

Outlaw Man
May 10, 2014, 11:47 PM
He could have gone into any other restaurant in Kansas and probably nobody would have noticed. A fortuitous meeting and a really cool sword...for the time being.

Shanghai McCoy
May 11, 2014, 12:23 AM
Great story rc. Hope the kid learns to appreciate the gift in the near future.
Now, just where is this place with the Saturday steak dinner happy hour..? :scrutiny:
(Not that I get that many Saturday nights off. :mad:)
;)

rcmodel
May 11, 2014, 12:28 AM
when RC goes to eat he'll eyeball your edcYou bet I do!!!!

And I always set with my back to a wall facing the door too, if I can!

Not a healthy state of mind for a 70 year old man is it? :scrutiny:
I know, Crazy Stuff to be thinking about in a peaceful family restaurant at my age!

But it works for me to keep an eye on swords & stuff coming through the front door while I eat..

Old habits die hard!

And it worked tonight to spot a 'Man with a Sword' before he had a chance to set down close to me.

rc

Shanghai McCoy
May 11, 2014, 12:31 AM
I keep my back to the wall and watch the doors too rc. But, I sure haven't seen anyone come in with a sword where I have been eating.

rondog
May 11, 2014, 12:38 AM
That grandson will probably be on some Internet site tomorrow, with the typical "what's this worth" questions. Or at a pawn shop on Monday.

rcmodel
May 11, 2014, 12:40 AM
Let me tell ya Shanghai!

It was a first sword in a resturent for me tonight too!

I've seen more then one knife in a bar 40 years ago.

But a sword in a resturent was a new one for sure!

rc

hso
May 11, 2014, 06:31 AM
laid it on the floor under his table with the pointy end of the case setting on a table leg 4" off the floor.
And the handle end sticking out in the aisle with people stepping over or tripping over it all during the meal.

If nothing else you could tell he was an unworthy clod from that.

lemaymiami
May 11, 2014, 03:39 PM
Thinking about "family histories" and the young man that received that gifted sword....

His reaction was probably how the history of that sword got changed over time. All of us have friends and relatives that know very little about weapons (sword type or otherwise) and probably stretch the truth a bit about family heirlooms a bit over time... Maybe that young man will be interested enough to actually learn a bit about what he was given. Stranger things have happened.

Deltaboy
May 11, 2014, 07:34 PM
Great story.

leadcounsel
May 11, 2014, 07:40 PM
Should've followed the grandson outside and asked to see it, said you collect swords, and offered him a low cash price on the spot for it.

bds
May 11, 2014, 07:58 PM
leadcounsel, +1.

I think that sword deserves a better owner who would appreciate it.

Radagast
May 12, 2014, 02:18 AM
Perhaps. But his grandfather didn't need to have his act of generosity dishonored.

Drail
May 12, 2014, 10:54 AM
...these kids today ain't got no respect.....

P.B.Walsh
May 13, 2014, 09:03 PM
Stupid kid, I am 20 and would love such a family heirloom!

skoro
May 14, 2014, 11:32 AM
So the grandson opened the case, pulled it out far enough to see the pommel, took a glance at it, then stuffed it back in the case.
And laid it on the floor under his table with the pointy end of the case setting on a table leg 4" off the floor.
And the handle end sticking out in the aisle with people stepping over or tripping over it all during the meal

Seems like the moral of this story would be that restaurants aren't good locations for a sword exchange. :scrutiny:

Radagast
May 17, 2014, 09:42 AM
I think most of the swashbuckling movies of the interwar year usually had the exchange between swords set in a restaurant, or tavern, as they were known back then.

sherman123
May 17, 2014, 10:36 AM
...these kids today ain't got no respect.....
Haha I'm 27 and totally agree with this. There's always exceptions but so many of my fellow youngsters disappoint me.

krupparms
May 17, 2014, 04:19 PM
I went to a work held dinner some years ago. One of the ladies was dating a Marine Recruiter. He showed up in full dress, sword and all! He got drunk &thankfully he didn't pull out his sword! Another time right after I moved to Oregon, all whole group of knights of the round table came into a restaurant I was in. They were in armor &stacked their spears, halbards, shields & long swords in a safe corner & had dinner. They had been holding a demonstration across the St. at the local park. No one even gave them a second look &went back to enjoying their dinner. I also sit with my back to the wall. When stationed in Kansas we used to get some great beef deals! 1/2 a beef was bought every month for flight party's! Some of the best beef around!:D

Radagast
May 18, 2014, 12:25 AM
Obviously they were the Portland Protective Association.

Sitting with your back to the wall can be a pain if your buddy likes to do the same. I found the solution is to pick a wall with a mirror on it. That way one guy watches the mirror and generally is able to get up faster, the other gets his back to the wall, but usually has his egress slowed.
Never been to Kansas. Last I heard of it it had Tornado's and was only visible in grey scale.
:P

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