Odd survey that I had to take for class...


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Moparmike
April 6, 2004, 01:19 PM
I had to take this survey (http://people-press.org/fit/ ) for my American National Government class. I found it odd that someone would create a survey that in essence told you nothing.

Comments about it?

BTW, I was a New Prosperity Independent. Whatever that means. Unfortunately, their description makes it sound like I dont like black people.:confused:

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fjolnirsson
April 6, 2004, 01:29 PM
Hmm, New Prosperity Independent also. Funny survey.
Their description of my values could hardly be more incorrect.
Seems to me like typical liberal viewpoints on anyone who doesn't toe the line, or who believes in the value of hard work. :barf:

Yowza
April 6, 2004, 01:34 PM
It told me I'm a staunch conservative, but judging by the description they give on the site, that doesn't really fit me very well. Whatever.

Rick

geekWithA.45
April 6, 2004, 01:35 PM
There's a lot of false dilemmas in there, and a lot of biased language in the descriptions of the typography.

It didn't strike me as a good survey tool, in the scientific sense.

After all, it labelled me as a "Staunch Conservative", in their scheme, despite intentionally pinging the liberal slant on social issues, while hitting the conservative slant on biz/gov/military.

FPrice
April 6, 2004, 01:36 PM
"Your answers indicate that you are in the Staunch Conservative category."

"Staunch Republicans:
COMMENTS: As in 1994, this extremely partisan Republican group's politics are driven by a belief in the free enterprise system and social values that reflect a conservative agenda. Dissatisfied with the state of the nation, Staunch Conservatives pay close attention to what is going on in politics and are highly vocal.
DEFINING VALUES: Pro-business, pro-military, pro-life, anti-gay and anti-social welfare with a strong faith in America. Anti-environmental. Self-defined patriot. Distrustful of government. Little concern for the poor. Unsupportive of the women's movement.
WHO THEY ARE: Predominately white (95%), male (65%) and older. Married (70%). Extremely satisfied financially (47% make at least $50,000). Almost two-thirds (63%) are white Protestant."

I have to take issue with some of their characteristics here. I am not quite "anti-gay". I am opposed to the current push to get the homosexual life style defined as just another normal way of life.

"Anti-environmental" is a stretch.

"Little concern for the poor". Gee.

As far as I can tell, just another test biased by the organization's view of things.

http://www.pewtrusts.com/about/index.cfm

Still does not disclose much about their agenda. Maybe someone else knws.

Iain
April 6, 2004, 01:37 PM
Apparently I don't like black people either.

On the bright side apparently 38% of us 'New Prosperity Independants' have college degrees. I don't remember answering any questions about my education or gender so where are their figures coming from?

As with any attempt to pigeonhole people the groups are too broad, the questions too 'one or the other' and the whole thing generally clumsy.

Greg L
April 6, 2004, 01:43 PM
New Prosperity Independent too.

According to them I like Bill Clinton :confused: . Um, nope, last time I checked I hadn't completely lost my mind :rolleyes: .

stevelyn
April 6, 2004, 01:46 PM
Staunch Conservative on mine, but the description given was way off base compared to what my answers were.:scrutiny: Some of the questions were unanswered due to the lack of an acceptable answer.
Pro-free enterprise, pro-smaller government, pro-keep the Judeo-Christian Taliban out of peoples' lives and bedrooms letting them live the way they choose, pro-freedom and liberty, and that makes me a staunch conserative? :confused:

Don Gwinn
April 6, 2004, 02:17 PM
Well, they're nucking futs, I can tell you that. They got me almost entirely wrong:


New Prosperity Independents:

COMMENTS: Affluent and less religious, this group is basically non-partisan with a slight lean toward the Republican Party. New Prosperity Independents are highly satisfied with the way things are going in the country. A majority approves of Bill Clinton, yet tends to be critical of government. One-third consider themselves Internet enthusiasts. Two-thirds favor having a third major political party in addition to the Democrats and Republicans.
DEFINING VALUES: Pro-business, pro-environment and many are pro-choice. Sympathetic toward immigrants, but not as understanding toward black Americans and the poor. Somewhat critical of government. Tolerant on social issues.
WHO THEY ARE: Well educated (38% have a college degree), affluent (almost one-fourth earn at least $75,000) and young (70% less than age 50). Slightly more men than women (55% to 45%, respectively). Less religious (only 13% go to church weekly).


They have a pretty strong statist bias in there. You can't possibly care what happens to black people, for instance, unless you want a government program to hand success to black folks with a bow tied around it. You should also be of the belief that racial discrimination is a bigger problem in America today than the actions of the black community in holding itself back. I guess William Raspberry, Clarence Paige, Condoleeza Rice and Alan Keyes don't care much about blacks. :rolleyes:


As someone said, lots of false dichotomies. I could gladly have checked both boxes on that first question, for instance. Number one came closest, though, and I suppose that's what they asked.

Unlucky
April 6, 2004, 02:32 PM
I chose Republican, because I usually default to that when it comes time to vote and they labeled me as "staunch conservative" despite the fact that I don't care about homosexuality and am not religious.

Going back, I changed my affiliation to "independent" and I suddenly become a "new prosperity independent."

:rolleyes:

Jim March
April 6, 2004, 03:23 PM
Simple. They wouldn't know what a Libertarian was if one bit 'em on the tushie, 'cept of course we won't initiate force...:)

geekWithA.45
April 6, 2004, 03:44 PM
Jim: There are moral and ethical reasons to initiate tushie biting.

I guess you hadn't considered mutual consent :what:

Treylis
April 6, 2004, 03:49 PM
I'm a "New Prosperity Independent". Gack. Wouldn't know a Libertarian indeed.

And talk about biased/slanted questions and false dichotomies! I don't even know why I bother taking quizzes like these; they only serve to irritate me.

Dorrin79
April 6, 2004, 04:08 PM
What a crock -

It claims that I am a "Staunch Conservative"

I guess they didn't feel like putting a "Radical Libertarian" category in, so anybody who's not a Liberal must be a Conservative, right?

:rolleyes:

mercedesrules
April 6, 2004, 04:24 PM
New Prosperity Independents:
COMMENTS: Affluent and less religious, this group is basically non-partisan with a slight lean toward the Republican Party. New Prosperity Independents are highly satisfied with the way things are going in the country.
Not! I complain about almost everything.
A majority approves of Bill Clinton, yet tends to be critical of government.
No to former, yes to latter.
One-third consider themselves Internet enthusiasts. Two-thirds favor having a third major political party in addition to the Democrats and Republicans.
DEFINING VALUES: Pro-business, pro-environment and many are pro-choice.
Hey, pro-everything!
Sympathetic toward immigrants, but not as understanding toward black Americans and the poor.
Sympathetic to all, but don't want to be forced to fund.
Somewhat critical of government. Tolerant on social issues.
Yep.
WHO THEY ARE: Well educated (38% have a college degree), affluent (almost one-fourth earn at least $75,000) and young (70% less than age 50). Slightly more men than women (55% to 45%, respectively). Less religious (only 13% go to church weekly).
I'm 60...otherwise on target.

I agree with those that didn't think it was a very good or fair test.

MR

Sean Cloherty
April 6, 2004, 04:27 PM
Another libertarian labelled as a "Staunch Con".

From my conversations with co-workers, friends, etc. it would seem that the libertarian viewpoint is pretty similar to what used to be call conservative except on personal freedoms issues.

I've always thought of myself as a classical liberal.

I guess that the labels really don't have much meaning anymore.

mrtgbnkr
April 6, 2004, 04:36 PM
Heck,
I'm "disaffected"....not exactly a flattering category (or correct for that matter).

Dissaffecteds:

COMMENTS: The Disaffecteds feel completely estranged from both parties. This financially pressured and pessimistic group is not only dissatisfied with the ability of politicians to help improve things, but also has less faith in America in general.
DEFINING VALUES: Distrustful of government, politicians, and business corporations. Favor third major political party. Also, anti-immigrant and intolerant of homosexuality. Very unsatisfied financially.
WHO THEY ARE: Less educated (only 8% have a college degree) and lower-income (73% make less than $50,000). More than one-quarter (28%) describe themselves as poor. Half are between the ages of 30-49. Second only to Partisan Poor in number of single moms. One-fifth (20%) work in manufacturing.

Mulliga
April 6, 2004, 04:46 PM
"New Prosperity Independent."

A rather stupid and statist survey.

Dex Sinister
April 6, 2004, 04:53 PM
I liked this part:

New Prosperity Independents are moderate, young to middle-aged voters whose affluence, Internet savvy and stock market investments lead them to strongly endorse the status quo. But while 55% of this group, which strongly favors both handgun control and a capital gains reduction, approve of Clinton, just 24% are inclined to vote for Gore...

Yeah - another "hardline libertarian for gun control":banghead: <cough, hack>

Dex }:>=-

Jay Kominek
April 6, 2004, 04:59 PM
Yow, its one thing for these poll/quiz things to have a few questions that you find it difficult to answer, but almost every one of those questions was horribly written. Some didn't even seem mutually exclusive, let alone space-covering.

Standing Wolf
April 6, 2004, 05:04 PM
Simple. They wouldn't know what a Libertarian was if one bit 'em on the tushie, 'cept of course we won't initiate force...

Yeah, but responding to force, now...

lee n. field
April 6, 2004, 05:47 PM
There's a lot of false dilemmas in there,

That's kinder than my comments would be.

Bogus. Bogus is the word I'm looking for. Am I a "Republican, Devilcrat or Independant"? Ummm. No. I left most everything blank, and ended up "Disaffected"

Brian Dale
April 6, 2004, 05:53 PM
The link to the "Pew Research Center's most recent typology report (November 1999)" has their attention at that time focused on the then-upcoming election. Big issues were "HMO reform" and whether Bill Bradley or algore had better chances against "Governor Bush" (lessee; Bradley: oh, yeah—basketball player/Senator, big friendly guy. What else did he do? I don't remember).

The landscape and the issues have changed so much since 1999 that the poll is an interesting historical artifact, if that. Dichotomies likeOther countries generally treat the United States about as fairly as we treat them.
OR
Other countries often take unfair advantage of the United States.

[and]

The best way to ensure peace is through military strength.
OR
Good diplomacy is the best way to ensure peace. are things for which the average person has a lot more data to work with than were in the public eye in 1999.

Further note: this small-l libertarian came up as "disaffected;" 8% college degrees? Ha! When I then clicked past the questionnaire to get to their links again as I was writing this (answering no Q's as I did so), it gave the same result: "disaffected." I guess I could've saved some time there. :neener:

Taipei Personality
April 6, 2004, 06:11 PM
I scored 100% libertarian on the "World's Smallest Political Quiz", but I'm a New Prosperity Independent? :confused: What a crock . . .

fslflint
April 6, 2004, 06:35 PM
uummm, very slanted. I took a criminal justice class last semester and one thing that was stressed very much was correct interpration of statistics. this survey seems to do everything that we were warned about.

w4rma
April 6, 2004, 06:49 PM
The poll placed me here, as I expected:

Liberal Democrats:
COMMENTS: Extremely tolerant on social issues. Champion individual rights and a range of liberal causes. Despite steadfast support for Democratic candidates, many Liberal Democrats prefer to call themselves Independents. Most favor having a third major party.
DEFINING VALUES: Pro-choice and support civil rights, gay rights, and the environment. Critical of big business. Very low expression of religious faith. Most sympathetic of any group to the poor, African-Americans and immigrants. Highly supportive of the women's movement.
WHO THEY ARE: Most highly educated group (50% have a college degree). Least religious of all typology groups. One-third never married.

more:
PAST TYPOLOGY COUNTERPART: Seculars/60's Democrats
9% OF GENERAL POPULATION
10% OF REGISTERED VOTERS
PARTY ID: 56% Democrat; 41% Independent, Lean Democrat
COMMENTS: Extremely tolerant on social issues. Champion individual rights and a range of liberal causes. Despite steadfast support for Democratic candidates, many Liberal Democrats prefer to call themselves Independents. Most favor having a third major party.
DEFINING VALUES: Pro-choice and support civil rights, gay rights, and the environment. Critical of big business. Very low expression of religious faith. Most sympathetic of any group to the poor, African-Americans and immigrants. Highly supportive of the women's movement.
WHO THEY ARE: Most highly educated group (50% have a college degree). Least religious of all typology groups. One-third never married.
MEDIA HABITS: Average news consumption. More than 40% get news online.
LIFESTYLE NOTES: Few live in rural areas. Many attend theater, ballet, opera and do volunteer work for nonprofits. Most (60%) have a gay friend, colleague or family member. Above average Internet use. Almost three-in-four (73%) exercise regularly.
POLITICAL ACTIVISM: Most politically knowledgeable of all groups. Above average voter turnout.
1996 VOTE: 70% Clinton, 4% Perot, 2% Dole
ISSUE PRIORITIES: Education and Health Care
http://people-press.org/reports/images/50-61.gif
http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?PageID=82

woerm
April 6, 2004, 06:54 PM
WHERE DO YOU FIT?

Your answers indicate that you are in the Staunch Conservative category.

staunch what all the red ink and irrational regulation comming out of the logic free zone,

dann ja you betcha

r

iapetus
April 6, 2004, 06:55 PM
I am "Disaffected"

COMMENTS: The Disaffecteds feel completely estranged from both parties.

- Probably the most accurate conclusion (although rather stronger than I would have put it).

This financially pressured...
- Well, I don't earn that much just now, although I expect that to change reasonably soon...

...and pessimistic group
- I'm actually pretty optemistic about most things.

...is not only dissatisfied with the ability of politicians to help improve things, but also has less faith in America in general.


DEFINING VALUES: Distrustful of government, politicians, and business corporations. Favor third major political party.
- True.

Also, anti-immigrant

Er, no. And there wasn't even a question about imigrants, as far as I saw.

..and intolerant of homosexuality.

Er, I ticked (and checked back) "Homosexuality is a way of life that should be accepted by society."

Very unsatisfied financially.
- well, I would like some more money...

WHO THEY ARE: Less educated (only 8% have a college degree)
- I have a university degree, and will be studying for a Masters this autumn (unless I get a good enough job first).

and lower-income (73% make less than $50,000).
- That's £31,000. And you Americans pay less tax than us Brits. I wouldn't call that "low income". (Although I am on £6/hr just now, so they got that bit right).

Brian Dale
April 6, 2004, 06:56 PM
w4rma, with all of those complimentary phrases, I can guess which group the study's authors consider to be their own. :neener:

Justin
April 6, 2004, 07:13 PM
Wow, each of those questions was a false dichotomy wrapped in a red herring and smothered with a sauce made of bias.

7.62FullMetalJacket
April 6, 2004, 07:21 PM
OK. Here's the plan. The Pew Research Trust came up with this whiz-bang theory of "typology" in 1999 to pidgeonhole people. Never mind that the typology was flawed (linear, or a sine wave at best). It attempts to place people on a simple continuum when that is clearly not the case.

Now, how do we test the theory. Why, we contrive a test to give us the results we expect! How scientific! :barf: :barf: :barf:

I hate it whan I waste my time on intentionally biased psyche evals.

w4rma was the only person the poll accurately predicted

The poll placed me here, as I expected:

So, what does that tell you? Hard left bias.

BTW, I am a staunch conservative according to this "scientific" study :barf:

7.62FullMetalJacket
April 6, 2004, 08:17 PM
:eek: :eek: psy daisy. Dupe

Moparmike
April 7, 2004, 08:23 PM
My instructor gives this every year to his students. He said that it used to have a libertarian category, but they were the smallest group, getting about 5% ( :scrutiny: ) of the respondents.


I also noticed that if you put that you are not a registered voter and/or "never" pay attention to politics, it automatically lumps you into the "Dissafected" category.:scrutiny:

444
April 7, 2004, 08:36 PM
They labeled me a Staunch Conservative.
You know what ? They are right on the money.
However, I could have told you that without a survey.
The questions are so obvious you don't need to click the final tab for the results.

StuporDave
April 7, 2004, 10:02 PM
I'm supposedly a Staunch Conservative. Not exactly what I'd label myself, but the description is close, with a few inaccuracies.

Staunch Republicans:


COMMENTS: As in 1994, this extremely partisan Republican group's politics are driven by a belief in the free enterprise system (the free enterprise system is what makes the country work) and social values that reflect a conservative agenda. Dissatisfied with the state of the nation (you can say that again), Staunch Conservatives pay close attention to what is going on in politics and are highly vocal. (yep)


DEFINING VALUES: Pro-business(yep), pro-military(yep), pro-life(yep), anti-gay(nope) and anti-social welfare(yep) with a strong faith in America(yep). Anti-environmental(nope, anti environmental wacko). Self-defined patriot. Distrustful of government(yep). Little concern for the poor(Of course I'm concerned for the poor. I'd just rather them get a hand up than a hand-out). Unsupportive of the women's movement(equal rights, opportunity, pay - Yep. Those "ladies" of NOW - Nope).


WHO THEY ARE: Predominately white (95%)(yep), male(yep) (65%) and older(I don't think 39 is older, is it?). Married(yep) (70%). Extremely satisfied financially(hell no, but it's my own damn fault.) (47% make at least $50,000). Almost two-thirds (63%) are white Protestant(nope, actually not really religious at all.).

Dave

igor
April 7, 2004, 11:55 PM
Even if one would clean the results of a Finn projecting his views on a U.S. platform, their typologies remain inconsistent with the actual responses. Highly curious, as they even use the weighting method that should give very accurate results. Not very sound this way... :banghead: this is your resident Liberal Democrat (not likely) :D speaking.

Stickjockey
April 7, 2004, 11:58 PM
iapetus pretty much hit it on the head. Man we "Disaffecteds" really get creamed in that one, don't we.

Brian Dale
April 8, 2004, 12:14 AM
Sure do, Stickjockey. That might be one result of this: He said that it used to have a libertarian category, but they were the smallest group, getting about 5% of the respondents.So they chucked the category out??? Talk about throwing away data that will tell you something. It looks like their survey was written not to find something out, but to proselytize for the Liberal Democrats.

Stickjockey
April 8, 2004, 12:17 AM
You're not just whistlin' Dixie!

Drjones
April 8, 2004, 04:18 AM
What a bunch of garbage.

A truly stinking pile of bovine excrement.

Look at the way they define these two groups, and pay very careful attention to the words used:

Staunch Republicans:
COMMENTS: As in 1994, this extremely partisan Republican group's politics are driven by a belief in the free enterprise system and social values that reflect a conservative agenda. Dissatisfied with the state of the nation, Staunch Conservatives pay close attention to what is going on in politics and are highly vocal.
DEFINING VALUES: Pro-business, pro-military, pro-life, anti-gay and anti-social welfare with a strong faith in America. Anti-environmental. Self-defined patriot. Distrustful of government. Little concern for the poor. :rolleyes: Unsupportive of the women's movement. :rolleyes:
WHO THEY ARE: Predominately white (95%), male (65%) and older. Married (70%). Extremely satisfied financially (47% make at least $50,000). Almost two-thirds (63%) are white Protestant.

-----------------

Gee, no white male bashing here, eh? Notice how everything is "anti-" this or "anti-" that? Its all given a negative slant.

And if $50K is "extremely satisfied financially," I don't even WANT to know what they'd think of a truly rich individual. :rolleyes: :barf: :barf:

Contrast the above with the praise they heap upon communists:


Liberal Democrats:
COMMENTS: Extremely tolerant on social issues. Champion individual rights and a range of liberal causes. Despite steadfast support for Democratic candidates, many Liberal Democrats prefer to call themselves Independents. Most favor having a third major party.
DEFINING VALUES: Pro-choice and support civil rights, gay rights, and the environment. Critical of big business. Very low expression of religious faith. Most sympathetic of any group to the poor, African-Americans and immigrants. Highly supportive of the women's movement.
WHO THEY ARE: Most highly educated group :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (Please note that "educated" does NOT equal "intelligent") (50% have a college degree). Least religious of all typology groups. One-third never married.

artherd
April 8, 2004, 04:37 AM
This is stupid. NPI too.

HiWayMan
April 8, 2004, 09:11 AM
anyone notice that no one has been labeled as a hardcore democrat yet. Wonder why that is?

Iain
April 8, 2004, 09:24 AM
DJ -

you resent being labelled inaccurately, which you are entitled to feel, so why would you go and do the same thing to another group straight after? I don't understand.

Riffraff
April 8, 2004, 09:49 AM
Barely worth the one word I will use to describe it: drivel

Unlucky
April 8, 2004, 01:19 PM
o why would you go and do the same thing to another group straight after? I don't understand.

Who is he bashing, really? He notes that the left-leaning descriptions are more favorable sounding, which he believes, and is likely right, are meant to further the authors' own agenda, which could safely be assumed to be "liberal."

Iain
April 8, 2004, 01:59 PM
Sure Unlucky, I think the agenda of the creators is clear, and yes there was a lot of positive language used to describe the 'liberal democrat's' (while I apparently don't like black people - news to me) but there is a world of difference between 'liberal democrat' and the definition of 'communist'.

Unlucky
April 8, 2004, 02:09 PM
there is a world of difference between 'liberal democrat' and the definition of 'communist'.

I agree to some extent, but I think there are many communists masquerading as liberal democrats. My personal opinion is that the sincere (but misguided) who believe that they are creating a better world would be considered liberals, while the insincere who are hoping to cultivate power and privilege with leftist politics while paying lip service to the noble ideas of "liberty, egality and fraternity" are commies, which is altogether too many of those I've met.

Iain
April 8, 2004, 02:18 PM
I don't radically disagree Unlucky, it's just that I feel that accusations of communism are like accusations of witchcraft (Arthur Miller got there before me of course) - easy to make because they are so difficult to prove and nicely dehumanise the opponent whilst labelling him fit to be dismissed.

Genuine curiosity - I've lived in Europe all my life, supposedly a hotbed of communism, yet I have met one or two people (students and/or hippies) who believe seriously that communism would work/is a good idea. Is it really common over there or is it often an allegation the like of which I described above? Some people don't do the whole 'individual freedoms' to the extent you guys do, but I doubt many of them would be happy in a commune either, they're just liberals - probably ones that mean well.

I really don't like this whole 'frickin liberal scum commie reds' talk because it smacks to me of lazy thinking - if you can't take their points apart bit by bit without resorting to angry rhetoric, are you sure that you are right and that they are crazy reds and wrong? (Not aimed at you or anyone in particular Unlucky)

Unlucky
April 8, 2004, 02:38 PM
I have met one or two people (students and/or hippies) who believe seriously that communism would work/is a good idea. Is it really common over there or is it often an allegation the like of which I described above? Some people don't do the whole 'individual freedoms' to the extent you guys do, but I doubt many of them would be happy in a commune either, they're just liberals - probably ones that mean well.

I don't even think communists think communism works, as the old USSR and Red China both demonstrate, but with different outcomes, namely that the USSR apparatchiks were only too happy to avail themselves (and only themselves) of the fruits of capitalism when it suited them and the Chinese have moved to adopting capitalism in all but name. I view communists strictly as leftist authoritarians and don't give their adherence to the classical economic theory too much import, as most are only too happy to keep those aspects of capitalism that suit them while paying lipservice to the rest of their "revolution."

Drjones
April 8, 2004, 03:02 PM
St John:

I *really* need to write the thread I've been meaning to write for months now explaining this whole thing...

For a start, read the article in my sig.

I most definitely do not refer to communists in the sense that you are thinking about, and my choice of word is in fact dead on.

Look for a thread by me soon...you'll know it when you see it....

Nightfall
April 8, 2004, 03:15 PM
NPI as well. Could they possibly praise Democrats more? A bunch of highly educated, tolerant folks who show strong support for civil rights. Sure, I'm getting sick of all the bubbling support for my RKBA Dems gush. :rolleyes: Then there are the Republicans, who are all rich, white, homophobic, racist males.

Biased doesn't quite describe this "survey". :barf:

Iain
April 8, 2004, 03:20 PM
DJ - will do.

Nightfall - you're right. I put 'independant' and got NPI too. My suspicion is that they weight the survey results heavily based on how you define yourself in the last few questions - dem/repub, registered/not registered etc.

Linux&Gun Guy
April 8, 2004, 03:36 PM
New Prosperity Independents:

COMMENTS: Affluent and less religious, this group is basically non-partisan with a slight lean toward the Republican Party. New Prosperity Independents are highly satisfied with the way things are going in the country. A majority approves of Bill Clinton, yet tends to be critical of government. One-third consider themselves Internet enthusiasts. Two-thirds favor having a third major political party in addition to the Democrats and Republicans.
DEFINING VALUES: Pro-business, pro-environment and many are pro-choice. Sympathetic toward immigrants, but not as understanding toward black Americans and the poor. Somewhat critical of government. Tolerant on social issues.
WHO THEY ARE: Well educated (38% have a college degree), affluent (almost one-fourth earn at least $75,000) and young (70% less than age 50). Slightly more men than women (55% to 45%, respectively). Less religious (only 13% go to church weekly).

Lets see:

Well I am not religious +1 for the quiz
I am not satisfied with the way things are going -3
I hate Bill -3
I am critical of the government +1
I like the net and Linux +1
I am a libertarian so I support a 3rd party +1
I am pro everything +2


This quiz is a crock of crap. Where is the libertarian party? If your not a repub your a lefty and if your not a bible thumper then you must love welfare??:confused:

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