Legality of large ammo stores?
Jayman
April 7, 2004, 12:02 AM
I heard a rumor that there is a federal law concerning how much ammo you may privately own/store at any one time. Is there such a thing, or was this total fallacy?
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Reno
April 7, 2004, 12:20 AM
I'm not sure whether there's a law or not, but not too long ago, the feds went in and made a bunch of arrests at a militia compound or somesuch. They went in under the patriot act, one of the reasonings for going in is that they had thousands of rounds of ammunition.
I guess anyone with a few full ammo cans is a terrorist now :rolleyes:
RatFink
April 7, 2004, 12:37 AM
My last can of .308 is only 1/2 full, does that make me 1/2 terrorist?
7.62FullMetalJacket
April 7, 2004, 12:51 AM
No, that makes you a candidate to buy more ammo, and soon. :neener:
TheOtherOne
April 7, 2004, 01:10 AM
They went in under the patriot act, one of the reasonings for going in is that they had thousands of rounds of ammunition.
I guess anyone with a few full ammo cans is a terrorist nowOr anyone with $15 that buys a couple bulk boxes of .22lr at Wal-Mart for $7.48 each.
PATH
April 7, 2004, 01:23 AM
Never heard anything about a federal law limiting ammo. As far as I am concerned you can never have enough!
Preacherman
April 7, 2004, 02:14 AM
I certainly hope not! I buy ammo in bulk at the beginning of every year, because I can get in on a bulk purchase by a local LE agency, and it saves me about 40% over normal bulk rates (how can I say "no" to an offer like that? :D ). Anyway, this means that for the first few months of every year, I have over 20,000 rounds of ammo stored in my ammo locker... I've never been told of any regulation as to how much I can store: and being in the LE field myself, albeit only as a chaplain, I think I would have heard of any Federal or local regulation concerning this. Of course, there are fire regulations, which vary from town to town and district to district, and they may restrict what and how many combustible/inflammable items you may store in your home: but you'll have to check this locally, as there's no national standard of which I'm aware.
In the meantime, I'll just have to go on shooting up my ammo supplies as fast as I can... :D
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Ben Shepherd
April 7, 2004, 08:29 AM
Preacherman, now we've seen your "on hand for everyday use" cabinet, how 'bout a shot of the SHTF stash?:D
Seriously though, I buy the same way, by the 1000 round case. At this point if I end up with financial troubles, or other stuff comes up, I can shoot at my current level for 2-3 years before I would run low.
Must not be paying attention in church, I've got more ammo storage than food storage.
Riffraff
April 7, 2004, 08:52 AM
Maryland has criminal charges for having more than 5 lbs of powder with out proper permits and licenses. It specifically excludes commercial ammo, here is the exact entry from Maryland's code on Lexis:
"Explosives" means gunpowder, powders for blasting, high explosives, blasting materials, fuses other than electric circuit breakers, detonators and other detonating agents, smokeless powder, and any chemical compound or mechanical mixture that contains oxidizing and combustible units or other ingredients in such proportions, quantities, or packing that ignition by fire, friction, concussion, percussion, or detonation of any part of the compound or mixture may and is intended to cause an explosion.
"Explosives" does not include fixed ammunition for small arms, small arms ammunition primers, small arms percussion caps, safety and pyrotechnic fuses, quills, quick and slow matches, friction primers, fireworks, or common matches when used in their original configuration.
Explosives for use in firearms.- "Explosives for use in firearms" means:
(1) smokeless powder for loading or reloading small arms ammunition; or
(2) black powder for loading or reloading small arms ammunition, antique arms, or replicas of antique arms.
Local licensing authority.- "Local licensing authority" means the sheriff or chief of police of the county or community where the applicant for a license resides or has a regular place of business.
(1) Subject to paragraph (2) of this subsection, a person need not obtain a license to possess or store up to 5 pounds of smokeless powder for the loading or reloading of small arms ammunition, and up to 5 pounds of black powder for the loading or reloading of small arms ammunition or for use in the loading of antique arms or replicas of antique arms, if the smokeless powder and black powder are stored in their original shipping containers and are possessed only for personal use in firearms.
(2) A person may not possess or store explosives for use in firearms in any quantity in multifamily dwellings, apartments, dormitories, hotels, schools, other public buildings, or buildings or structures open for public use.
Long story short, it is not Federal law that I am aware of but it may be and usually is the jurisdiction of the State.
answerguy
April 7, 2004, 09:04 AM
My last can of .308 is only 1/2 full, does that make me 1/2 terrorist?
If it was a full can you would be considered an American Suspected Terrorist or AST, but since you only have a half can of ammo you are considered half-AST.
Tall Man
April 7, 2004, 09:54 AM
Preacherman, some of the shelves in your new storage cabinet are bowing (albeit modestly, but the bubble level won't lie.)
Knowing that the need for strength was preordained, you commited the cardinal sin of not overbuilding. :p
Your penance: buy a truckload of SYP 2x12's and 5 lbs of galvalume fine thread screws. Send the family to the mall for the day. Engage drill*. Anchor assembly to block wall. Arrange inventory. Stand back and smile.
TM
(Each shelf is a sandwich: two 2x12s, glued/screwed together.)
sturmruger
April 7, 2004, 10:33 AM
That is allot of ammo. I should try to buy enough ammo to last me for the whole year. I need to figure out how much ammo that would take??
Jayman
April 7, 2004, 10:40 AM
Well the reason I asked, my ammo locker is actually under my bed. I probably have around 3k each of .308 and .223, mix in some assorted shotgun rounds (200ish) and pistol rounds (approx 1000 each 9, 40, and 45) and you start to see why I was wondering about it.
I don't have the stores that some of you guys have, but I'm workin' on it!!!!
Ben Shepherd
April 7, 2004, 10:41 AM
Riffraff, I buy all my powders in 8lb kegs. At last count I've got 15 different powders. (Yes I store it carefully.)
Being in your state would suck.:mad:
Zundfolge
April 7, 2004, 12:55 PM
I don't think there's a Federal law concerning how much ammo you can store at home, but I do belive there are local fire codes that could require you to put one of those HazMat diamonds on your house if you have more then a certain amount of explosive material (that and zoning restrictions in residential areas might not allow you to store too much ammo).
Only time I think it would be a problem is if there's a fire ... in which case you could be charged with violating fire codes.
RatFink
April 7, 2004, 01:26 PM
If it was a full can you would be considered an American Suspected Terrorist or AST, but since you only have a half can of ammo you are considered half-AST.
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RustyHammer
April 7, 2004, 02:09 PM
Hey Preach ...
Canada just called. Wanted to know if you could loan them some ammo? :rolleyes:
/Rusty
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