41 mag sliver tips are they worth it ?


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horsemen61
June 13, 2014, 01:23 AM
Ok guys while at the lgs I put a 41 mag Ruger Blackhawk on layaway and in doing so the orginal owner who was in their kept saying oh you gotta get the sliver tips they don't make them anymore they are with double the shelf tag which was 30.00 even so my question to you is 20 175 grain 41 mag sliver tips worth 30 dollars I have heard they can't live up to their claims on the box

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ReloaderFred
June 13, 2014, 02:01 AM
They're an excellent round. I carried the .41 Magnum Silver Tips as my duty round for many years.

Hope this helps.

Fred

Water-Man
June 13, 2014, 02:34 AM
I used the 44mag 210gr. Silvertip for several years. Great round for hunting and self defense.

Jesse Heywood
June 13, 2014, 03:31 AM
Silvertips are an old, but good bullet. First released in the early 80s. The last I bought were 45 Colt, just before the panic of 08. Gave $20 a box. Shot one box, sold the others when I started loading .45s, and the price was up. Switched to a lead Keith bullet for economic reasons. The cost of $30 isn't bad in today's market. And if that's all you can get, it's a real good deal.

41 Mag
June 13, 2014, 05:45 PM
Personally I would opt for something in a 200 or 210gr bullet myself.

That said since there ain't much on the shelves as of late you might just get what you can.

Many years ago I purchased some of those and thought HeHe I had just the ticket. Turned out they shot lousy in my BH and weren't up to the advertised velocity either. (imagine that) Now they are a good bullet from a past era, but they do a good job from what I have seen and read. I'm not knocking the whole mess of them just the ones I shot.

I found that the Remington 170gr SJHP was MUCH more accurate, and I purchased them 1K at a time and loaded them myself. To be honest in order to bring out the REAL 41 in your BH handloading is the best all around route to go.

You don't have to spend a fortune on it either. Get a box of 500 cases from Starline, and your set. Pick up a good set of carbide dies in either Hornady, RCBS, or even the Lee 4 die set. For powder, take your pick, Unique, AA-5 thru 9, 2400, and 296 all work great in it depending on what your taste are.

If you can find some ANYWHERE, the Remington 200gr SJHP is awesome in this caliber and was all I shot after I used up my 170gr supply. Well I tried others here and there through the years but that Remington was cheap enough to buy in bulk, and accurate enough to put a hog on the ground out to 100yds. My load for them isn't top end either, in fact it is in the middle of the data for the 210gr bullet listed on Hodgdon's site for 296 at 20.5grs. I got tired of switching the load for each bullet and settled on one weight I could use for both. With the 200gr, it hits the Chrony right around 1300'ish fps at 15ft from my 7.5" Redhawk, and the 210 is right there with it, but has a touch more recoil. It is a sweet load with mild recoil and just as accurate as you can hold it.

Anyway for factory loads it looks like just about everything is in 20rd boxes nowadays, and are all running $30'ish bucks a box no matter what. The 41 is a great round, easily loaded and usually pretty darned accurate with most any ol loads. Thing is as you can see it is more tailored to handloaders than some of the others are. But if you buy your components in bulk, it isn't all that expensive to shoot when you roll your own.

W.E.G.
June 13, 2014, 06:31 PM
Even if it was a full-metal-jacket, I can't imagine what you would shoot with ANY flavor of .41 Magnum that would be anything but DEAD RIGHT THERE.

There is simply a point at which the magic expanding bullet only makes a difference in theory.

Like if you are being charged by three angry buffalo, and your only chance is to kill all three with a single shot...

I wouldn't pay that kind of money for 20 rounds of now-obscure ammo.

Buy in quantity, and practice marksmanship. Even in a large gun, that .41 Mag will give you a workout unless you down-load it.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/pistol%20pics/Ruger%20Blackhawk%2041%20Magnum/Blackhawk41.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/pistol%20pics/Ruger%20Blackhawk%2041%20Magnum/41magnum73shootersbible.jpg

steveno
June 13, 2014, 06:41 PM
if you are looking for a hunting round look at the Winchester platinum tip. it is a 240 grain plated hollow point. it would shoot one hole groups out of a TC super 14 at 25 yards and didn't get a whole lot bigger at 50 yards

S & W M-57 4 inch - 1,132 fps avg
S & W M-57 4 inch - 1,206 fps avg
Ruger Blackhawk 6.5 inch - 1,251 avg
TC super 14 - 1,460 fps

blarby
June 13, 2014, 08:15 PM
I want a blackhawk for $99.50 :(

ClarkEMyers
June 13, 2014, 10:16 PM
IMHO - No, there are better. Might develop a list of weighted qualities and intended use to make a choice. My own practice was a 210 Sierra and a case full of 296 giving superb accuracy and good enough terminal ballistics.

Almost anything in the .41 Magnum is at least adequate. My preferred carry cartridge for many years has been a Silvertip but that's because the selection in 9X23 has been very limited.

Therefore the Silvertip in .41 Magnum will do the job but others at the same price will do the same job better and Barnes and a few others will be noticeably better in one way or another.

I'm not a huge fan of heavy weight bullets in the .41 Remington Magnum including issues of twist and other such but there is something to be said for the 240 grain - still for my own use I have little use - not none - for heavy weight bullets that hurt my hands. Again I like one load for all purposes and find it at least adequate for anything and very good indeed for most things.

caz223
June 14, 2014, 01:20 AM
The 175 grain silvertips are a defense load. They are loaded light for manageability.
If you had to shoot a pistol indoors for defense, a full power .41 magnum would not be my first choice.
So, they are a defense load for a caliber that typically isn't used for defense.
If you have a home defense gun like a .38 or 9mm, leave those silvertips at the shop.
If you want to use that mighty .41 for a possible home defense scenario, buy that one box, and keep it around for SHTF. Shrugs.

ArchAngelCD
June 14, 2014, 03:55 AM
I don't know who told you Winchester isn't making the .41 Magnum Silvertips any longer because they are. Like all the Silvertips they are seasonable so you will have to wait until Winchester makes a run and buy then.
http://www.winchester.com/Products/handgun-ammunition/Performance/Super-X-handgun/Pages/X41MSTHP2.aspx

I use nothing but .357 Magnum Silvertips in one of my revolvers but not because it's the best bullet available but because the ammo is extremely accurate in that revolver. They are very expensive when they are available @ almost $1 a round.

If I were you I would probably try and find any ammo that's accurate in your revolver. Even though the Silvertips are good ammo there are others just as good or better and more available too. DoubleTap makes very good ammo and they do produce .41 Magnum ammo.
They produce 8 different .41 Magnum loads:
http://www.doubletapammo.net/index.php?route=product/category&path=303_343
The 170gr Sierra JHP bullet load makes a very good SD round...

45crittergitter
August 2, 2014, 10:09 PM
The OP is perhaps asking about loaded ammo? Confusing, since this is a handloading page. But regardless, the factory loaded ammo is pretty slow. Very pleasant to shoot and a good SD round, but a full-speed load would be my preference.

For instance, the 175 ST does about 1250 fps from my gun, while the old Remington 170 SJHP does an honest 1600. 1600 is awesome on the receiving end.

ArchAngelCD
August 3, 2014, 03:55 AM
The OP is perhaps asking about loaded ammo? Confusing, since this is a handloading page. But regardless, the factory loaded ammo is pretty slow. Very pleasant to shoot and a good SD round, but a full-speed load would be my preference.

For instance, the 175 ST does about 1250 fps from my gun, while the old Remington 170 SJHP does an honest 1600. 1600 is awesome on the receiving end.
I do think the OP was asking about factory loaded ammo. That's why I answered the question with links to the factory Winchester ammo.

Unfortunately factory ammo, especially in the less popular cartridges like the 41 Magnum are very expensive!

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