What Guns Mean the Most to You?


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David E
June 21, 2014, 09:42 PM
We all like guns. That's why we are here.

But I was wondering....

What guns mean the most to you?

I realize this question can be interpreted several ways, but I'm asking -

if you inherited guns from your Dad, Uncle, Brother, etc, what you prefer them more if:

1) they are pristine, NIB, unfired

Or

2) they show wear, scratches and dents because your Dad used them.

Why would you prefer them that way?

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rcmodel
June 21, 2014, 10:03 PM
Old & worn finish is good as long as they still work & shoot right.
They got that way through many years of hard work & proper gun care.

I still have my fathers 1906 Winchester .22 pump.
It looks like heck, but still shoots & functions as good as the day they made it.
Years of residing behind the door on the screened back porch, or barn, many miles on a tractor, or pick-up farm truck, etc.

I'd take a beating before I'd refinish it to look like new again.

rc

C0untZer0
June 21, 2014, 10:58 PM
Ruger Standard which my dad purchased in 1964.

The S&W Model 63 which I purchased for my daughter.

And my HK P7M8 which was the first gun I ever purchased, in 1985.

content
June 21, 2014, 11:25 PM
Remington Model 11 Military trainer with Cutts compensator, its an early one with the sporting engraving. Like the one my Grandfather trained with before WWII, might even be the same one.

Remington 870 Wingmaster 12ga, 28" VR,,,gift from my parents in 1976.

Keystone breakaction single shot 12ga.
A gift from a friend after I told him my Great grandfather had one for rabbits and squirrels, his went to my Uncle who had 4 boys.
I'd never even think to ask for it, they love it too.

content
June 21, 2014, 11:28 PM
What about you David E,,,going to answer your own thread??

WestKentucky
June 21, 2014, 11:55 PM
Beat to snot and still functioning. Perfect example is my grandmas 2 guns. One is an RG 32swl that rode around in her purse. It's rough, even for an RG but it was hers and I treat it like she did...a cylinder through it once a year just to stay familiar with it. The other is a Montgomery wards single shot 22 that was her gun as a child. From a family of 13 she was the youngest, and only girl at home though she had a sister(first child) that ran off with a guy at 15 and ended up in Indiana. All the boys had chores both at home and at neighbors houses to pull their weight and put food on the table in the form of vegetables, flour, sugar etc. My grandmas job was to take this rifle and bring home meat to go in the stew. She said she "et ever damned thing round these parts cept a polecat or buzzard" and the marks on the stock of the rifle show it. Gouges from drops, scrapes, and in general the finish is GONE but I know a few stories on the gun and where those marks came from including the crack in the buttplate from beating a rattlesnake to death with it when she fell in the creek and got her bullets wet. This rifle means as much as the rest of the sentimental guns combined.

And yes, that was the first time they ate snake, but not the last.

David E
June 22, 2014, 01:37 AM
What about you David E,,,going to answer your own thread??


I prefer those guns to be well worn and used. To me, the honest wear, mark, scratch and dent imbeds a part of the person that used it.

One reason I'm asking is that I have some guns that don't show much wear, while others show quite a bit. I'm debating about doing a rotation of those guns so they'll get their holster carry time.

Why?

Because I'm approaching the age where you start to wonder what to leave to who. And I want each gun they get to carry and impart some of my character to every person who receives one. Ideally, I'll pass it on in person so I can watch them enjoy it as I did.

I still have a bit of time, so there's no great rush.....but some of these guns have about 10 years of wear by routinely being used......and those are the new ones.

content
June 22, 2014, 05:25 AM
I got ya,,,, I missed the worn or not.

Rem. model 11 very worn and love it, each mark possibly helped win the war!
Rem.870 even though it has been my dove/skeet shotgun since 76' shows little wear but has lots of memories.

Keystone in great shape but not a family gun, no memories just appreciated as a fine gift.

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You might consider passing on one with wear and one in good shape to each person on your list, they would have the pleasure of knowing each side of you.

Good to think about these things early, you are right and have given me something to think about, ty.

Ed Ames
June 22, 2014, 08:33 AM
Depends on the person and the wear.

My father had a S&W 29 he bought new in the early '60s. He ran thousands, perhaps tens of thousands, of handloads through it over the years. He carried it in the woods. He used it.

He was also borderline compulsive when it came to handling. As in before he would touch a firearm he owned he would wash his hands, and make sure he had a rag and oil. When he set it on a hard surface he would put a rag down first. So his 50+ year old revolver had holster polish at the muzzle, but was otherwise pristine.

If you inherited a gun from him that was visibly worn or had more than one scratch/ding per decade of existence, it was a gun he was given (maybe he inherited it), not "his". More, it was a gun he was given and didn't care enough about to refinish. Well, unless it was a (retired) military weapon. He held those to a different standard, and while he wasn't in the habit of slamming rifles buttplate-first into the ground when I knew him, he didn't see that as abuse the way gently setting a revolver down on a glass surface was.

I know other people who can't look at something without a ding appearing. From them a gun could look like someone had used it for target practice with a BB gun, and maybe used the barrel to dig holes in their garden, and still have sentimental value.

Hangingrock
June 22, 2014, 08:59 AM
No emotional involvement. Firearms are tools no more or less. If I were to make two exceptions they would be an M14 manufactured by Winchester and a Ithaca manufactured 1911A1. They both belonged to the government and I was just a temporary custodian.

USAF_Vet
June 22, 2014, 09:45 AM
Arisaka type 38, PTO bring back and a Remington model 10 belonging to my great grandfather, sadly ruined by an incompetent fool of a gunsmith.

S&W 469, my first quality handgun purchase.

mavracer
June 22, 2014, 10:10 AM
Honest wear is a plus on a heirloom but not required, I love my grandpas pristine Colt Huntsman too.

KenW.
June 22, 2014, 10:58 AM
I have two: the Savage single shot .22 dad taught me to shoot with, and a Nazi Hi-Power grandpa got from a German who no longer had use of it at the Battle of the Bulge. Heirlooms with provenance.

40-82
June 22, 2014, 11:05 AM
I still have my father's Winchester Model 70 .270 made in 1951. It shows a lot of wear. I carry it a few days each fall and kill a few deer with it every year. Sometimes when I am in the deep woods with this old rifle in my hands time kind of rolls back and it feels like I am very young again and with my father.

I understand the feelings about passing guns on and maybe wondering whether they will be appreciated. A few days ago I was showing my old single action Colt 45 to my niece's boyfriend. I'm out of touch with young people, and it stunned me when I realized that he didn't know how to load and unload it. I thought that was just part of being an American man. I should know better. I suppose I do really if I would admit it. Before he realized it he blurted out after I showed him the ejector rod and how to reload the old gun, "I'd hate to have to defend myself with that." Maybe he's right. Maybe the old Colt is obsolete, and maybe I am too, but when I was his age the Colt single action was the best I had, and the only kind of gun I knew how to use. When he tried to shoot it, never having been instructed in handguns, he couldn't hit anything. I felt better when my niece picked it up, and put three shots touching fairly rapid fire at ten yards. Maybe an appreciation of an old worn gun is a thing of the blood. Maybe that's why some of us love the old worn guns so, it connects us with those who came before, and maybe gives us something to leave with our mark on it to those who are yet to have their time.

kbbailey
June 22, 2014, 11:36 AM
My dad and I have matching 4E Ithaca trapguns.
Good memories of competition over many years and locations with friends.

bikerdoc
June 22, 2014, 11:48 AM
My Ruger Police Service six that the dept let me buy when I retired.

Dframe
June 22, 2014, 11:53 AM
An old Model 37 Winchester my grandmother gave me.

MedWheeler
June 22, 2014, 12:04 PM
I think I have four.

1) Taurus Model 66, my first handgun, purchased the day I turned 21, in 1987.

2) Charter Arms Undercover 38, purchased the day I was sworn in as a LEO, later that same year.

3) Ruger Police Service Six, inherited from my dad, who did some time as a deputy during a period in which he and I did not know each other. It's heavily-holster-worn, and I like it that way.

4) A second (and much older) Charter Arms Undercover; same conditions as item 3.

Wil Terry
June 22, 2014, 12:17 PM
THE ONES that shoot straight and tight. ALL the rest is mostly meaningless.

David E
June 22, 2014, 12:48 PM
I agree that the kind of wear matters.

I abhor what I call "stupid wear," as that's caused by being careless, reckless or stupid.

But "honest wear" is created by using the gun the way it was designed to be used.

Most of my Dad's guns had very little wear, as he only shot them a couple times a year. But when it came time to divvy them up, the ones that were NIB (and I didn't even know he'd bought them) were of minimal interest to me.

The ones he shot or otherwised used were what I was interested in. I snagged the rifle and pistol that were the first guns I'd ever shot.

Not letting go of those!

bannockburn
June 22, 2014, 02:11 PM
My Dad only had one gun; a single shot .22 rifle that was made in Germany sometime between the World Wars. The rifle was actually on loan from someone else and was used to put meat on the table during the Depression. A friend of my Dad ended up with it for a number of years and gave it to me about 20 years ago. Some wear and tear on the stock and the bluing is thin in a number of places but still in good shape and perfect working order.

jmace57
June 22, 2014, 05:53 PM
Remington 514 .22 given to me by my grandfather. Walther PP my Dad captured in WW2. Winchester Model 12 from my other grandfather.

cat_IT_guy
June 22, 2014, 08:41 PM
Marlin 60 handed down by my grandpa. I doubt it ever saw much field use (he wasnt really a hunter), just some target/range use, but overall its in pretty good condition. I have modified it a little bit (tech-sights, mcarbo trigger springs, and swivel studs), but it would be the last gun I got rid of (God willing it never comes to that and I'll be able to enjoy it with my son - maybe grandpa will even get to if he hangs around long enough).

Resto Guy
June 22, 2014, 10:27 PM
I have a 101 year old Steven's 12 ga. that belonged to my grandfather's brother (my great uncle). He died about 60 years ago and it was passed to me 30+ years ago and has been fired twice since.
It helped feed his family and shows wear, but that is what gives it character.
My grandfather died (was murdered) in 1929. Who knows, maybe he even used it to help feed his 7 kids. Of the guns I have, it's probably worth the least money. But it's the most valuable to me.

huntsman
June 22, 2014, 10:49 PM
The 2nd series Colt Matchtarget from my dad has some wear but probably more from me, I started carrying it in the mid-seventies as a teenager.

1SOW
June 22, 2014, 11:01 PM
1.. My uncle's 1956 Belgium Browning Sweet 16 used for all manner of bird hunting, my dad bought it from him in the late 1950s and hunted pheasant, I inherited it from my dad and used to shoot some trap and now shoot monthly 3-gun Fun Shoots . Well taken care of but shows wear and use, but 100% functional with 100% original parts.
2. well-used 9mm Sig 239 SD pistol that has had ZERO failures for many years
3. very well-used 9mm Production class comp. pistol that puts smiles on my face every week
4. 1970's High Standard Military .22 target pistol, I learned to shoot Bullseye with, taught my son to shoot with, and still shoot monthly

I shoot every firearm I own. I have zero interest in safe queens, investments or glass cased guns over the fireplace.
1)/4) My son will inherit the Browning shotgun and High Standard with plenty of ammo and hopefully shoot shoot them both.
2) The Sig may go the distance, and my wife may keep it handy.
3) I'll probably wear out the comp. pistol and buy another.

mnhntr
June 22, 2014, 11:24 PM
I have a Marlin 336 in .35rem that was my grandfathers primary hunting rifle.
I have a bunch of guns that were my dads who passed away a few months ago.
My Ruger Blackhawk that my dad gave me for my 16th birthday.
Although they mean a lot as heirlooms passed down, that will be passed to my children. I would give all of them for one more day with either of the men they came from.

heycods
June 22, 2014, 11:48 PM
Grandfathers old Savage 300 mod.99. My first gun when I was 11 a double barrel savage 311 in 16 ga, Great Uncles Eastern arms 410, a modle 70 featherlite 270 Win I purchased years ago, A browning A5 I also purchased years ago. The list could go on a while. but thats the top of the list, Scratches scrapes just add character.

Coyote3855
June 23, 2014, 10:51 AM
My dad carried daily, and cared for, a Colt Woodsman for 70 years. It shows the results of both. It's my most treasured firearm.

Arkansas Paul
June 23, 2014, 10:57 AM
An old Model 37 Winchester my grandmother gave me.

Like this one? :)

http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac223/prgann/IMG_5972_zps63683978.jpg (http://s902.photobucket.com/user/prgann/media/IMG_5972_zps63683978.jpg.html)

Not a great picture I know, but she means a lot to me.
This one is in 16-gauge. My grandpa traded a coon dog for it in the late 40s or early 50s. I'm the 3rd Paul to have it.

It was the gun that provided the food for the family during those days. I bet the squirrels, rabbits and quail that thing killed would fill several truck beds. It also put a load of #6s into a peeping tom when my uncle stepped onto the porch and saw him peeking in my aunt's bedroom window. Didn't kill the guy but it took a long time to dig all the shot out of him.

I wouldn't want it to look new. Not a great pic, but you can tell that the bluing is gone. There are many character marks in the stock.

Sadly, it's not a reliable shooter anymore. About 2/3 of the time you get a light strike. I don't think it's a firing pin issue. I think the action is just so worn from use that there's just too much play in it. I want to get it looked at and see if that is the problem.

I'd sure love to take it out and shoot a few tree rats for old time's sake.

Wishoot
June 23, 2014, 11:09 AM
None really.

The only gun I ever really was my fathers PPK.

Unfortunately, he got rid of it before I was old enough to own a gun.

He did the same thing with his Mercedes 450SL convertible just before I got my drivers license.

In retrospect, probably a smart move on his part.

Dframe
June 23, 2014, 11:14 AM
Yes! JUST like that, except mines a 12 gauge. Mine has the winchester script in red on the bottom of the reciever. Love that old gun.

bandur60
June 23, 2014, 01:35 PM
#1 --- Model 71 Deluxe Winchester from my dad, Serial no 1xxx, a lot of bluing worn off, checkering you can still see but not feel much;

#2 --- Ruger Bearcat, bought 1967;

#3 --- Ruger 77 25-06, bought 1972, first new centerfire for me; it's been "meat-in-the-pot" ever since.

David E
June 23, 2014, 02:50 PM
My dad carried daily, and cared for, a Colt Woodsman for 70 years. It shows the results of both. It's my most treasured firearm.


That description requires a pic!

Arkansas Paul
June 23, 2014, 02:52 PM
Mine has the winchester script in red on the bottom of the reciever.

Mine has the Winchester script at the bottom too.
It hasn't been red in several years though.

Just FYI, the fact that the script is there means it is one of the early models. They stopped putting the mark on the bottom of the receiver sometime in 1948.
That's about the only way to date them, as they did not have serial numbers or date stamps. So we know ours are pre-1948. :)

CWL
June 23, 2014, 04:38 PM
I have a pair of 1911s that were left to me by my friend and shooting buddy. They were customized by Armand Swensen in the 1960's. These were left to him by his father, who got them when he was a Ventura County Sheriff. I am honored that he left them for me, but I'll trade them back for my friend any day. Miss ya' Scott!

Never plan on giving these up.

StrawHat
June 24, 2014, 07:45 AM
One of my "most favored" revolves is the S&W M28-2 I have that is chambered for the 45 ACP cartridge. 4" barrel and it is a dream to carry and shoot.

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc194/StrawHat/IMGP1415-1.jpg (http://s214.photobucket.com/user/StrawHat/media/IMGP1415-1.jpg.html)

aarondhgraham
June 24, 2014, 09:44 AM
That would be Lucille,,,
My Mom's Colt Frontier Scout.

http://www.aarondgraham.com/lwat/handguns/20-lucille.JPG

My cousin bought this gun new in 1963,,,
My father won it from him in a poker game in 64,,,
He gave it to my mother thinking she would like owning it.

I would bet that my Mom didn't put 50 rounds through it in the next 20 years,,,
But me and my two younger brothers shot the heck out of it.

Do your chores without me having to tell you,,,
Then you can shoot Lucille after dinner.

The gun lived on top of the refrigerator along with a brick of .22 LR,,,
For the first 6 or 7 years we went through a brick a month,,,
We lived in the boonies and shot off our back porch.

Mom finally relented and sold it to me in 83,,,
Then the gun was stolen in a break-in of my house,,,
Many years later and after a lot of family drama I got it back,,,
Turns out my Mom had second thoughts and the burglar was my youngest brother.

Anyways, it's back in my possession again,,,
It's been in the family now for 50 years,,,
It will still put 6 rounds in a 1" circle,,,
Not that my old eyes can do that,,,
But the gun has that accuracy.

When (if) I ever get so old and decrepit that I can't shoot anymore,,,
I'll start giving my guns away to some deserving friends,,,
But my Model 15, model 18, and Lucille,,,
Well, they will be the last to go.

Aarond

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Dframe
June 24, 2014, 10:43 AM
Great story and a great gun Aarond!
Another one that means everything to me is the Model 25-2 my late wife gave me on my birthday back in the late seventies.

loose noose
June 24, 2014, 10:51 AM
Mine would be the Colt Gold Cup 70 Series National Match, that I had to buy when my PD went from the S&W revolvers to the Colt .45 in 1971. I paid $156.00 for it including the holster 2 additional magazines, and a magazine pouch. Naturally I kept it after I retired.

My other would be my Dad's Remington Model 11 Premier, he bought in 1946, I had it completely reconditioned, as I know my Dad would have wanted it done that way. Talk about beautiful wood and engraving.

Also my Remington 700 BDL Custom Deluxe in .270 caliber, in which I shot numerous deer and a few elk with. And..............................

midland man
June 24, 2014, 12:21 PM
mine is a Winchester model 94 in 30/30 my dad gave it to me on xmas day when I was 12 years old! it was brand new in the box when I got it and I have hunted with it all these years and still using it :)

Twiki357
June 25, 2014, 02:21 AM
Pristine condition is great. The fewer scratches and less wear is more important to me since I prefer older guns that are in good condition. I don’t like internal locks or transfer bars so NIB doesn’t even enter the picture unless it’s been that way for 30+ years or so.

I don’t really have any that I have an emotional attachment to other than maybe my SSA Colt in 22 Mag that my parents bought me back in the 1950’s. Started out as a Buntline Special in the Wyatt Earp TV era, but ended up with a 5” barrel after the Buntline got a bulge in it.

Phaedrus/69
June 26, 2014, 04:20 AM
The guns that mean most to me are nothing really 'special' I guess. One I've only had a week! It's an HK P30S with a trigger job by Gray Guns. The regular P30 is among my favorite sidearms but the GG work knocks it out of the ballpark. The HK USP, any of 'em, are also special to me...just love the design. It was one of the early guns I bought in my first five or six years of being old enough to buy my own and in many ways has never been surpassed. The other really special one to me is my Browning Hi-Power. It was the very first handgun I bought when I turned 21 and I've had some work done to it by a very gifted gunsmith. I carried it for 20 years before branching out to other designs.

I really wish I could rattle off some gun of dad's that has sentimental value, but Dad wasn't sentimental about guns! We had a running joke that a family heirloom was one he kept long enough to need to clean.:D He'd winnowed his collection down to just a few that he really wanted by the time he passed away, and nearly all of them were relatively new.

aarondhgraham
June 26, 2014, 09:52 AM
A bit over two years ago,,,
My best friend passed away.

We worked together for about 12 years,,,
She is the one who indirectly got me back into guns,,,
While I was a poor but honest college boy for seven years,,,
The only gun I had was Lucille, my Mom's little Colt Frontier Scout.

Jackie's father passed away about 8 years ago,,,
He left her a veritable arsenal of handguns and rifles,,,
Jackie had always been a shooter but really didn't know guns,,,
So I bought a Blue Book of Gun Values and we spent a couple weekends with it.

We catalogued all of the guns,,,
Placed decent selling prices on them,,,
And got them all cleaned and ready to sell off.

Long story short,,,
She asked me if there were any I wanted,,,
I picked out four revolvers that I liked but again I was poor,,,
She saw a fifth gun that I had looked at and added it to the pile of four.

Can you afford $500.00,,,
"For which one" I asked her,,,
"for all five." she answered back to me.

I ate Ramen noodles for two months but I took the 5 guns home with me,,,
That's what got me back into gun ownership big time.

When she dropped me off at my apartment that evening she opened her trunk,,,
She pulled out a big blue S&W handgun case and handed it to me,,,
"This was my dad's favorite handgun. I want you to have it."

Inside was a 6" Model 629-no dash .44 magnum,,,
I was completely stunned to say the least,,,
She said it was for all the work I did.

Anyways, on with the story of Mattie.

When we went to the range she took a variety of guns,,,
But the one she always took with her was a nickel 4" model 34.

She told how for her 11th (or 12th) birthday,,,
Her father took her to a local gun store,,,
He let her pick out any .22 revolver,,,
She chose the nickel Model 34.

When she told me that story,,,
I commented on her good taste in guns,,,
"What made you choose that one over the others?" I asked.

Her reply was,,,
It was shiny!

Jackie passed away in her sleep,,,
When her brother flew out from California,,,
I was helping him find her important papers and suchlike.

I told him about that revolver and offered to buy it from him,,,
I really wanted it as a keepsake for my friend,,,
I told him it would sell for at least $400.00,,,
He handed it to me and said, "It's yours."

I could not believe that he was just giving it to me like that,,,
But he does live in California and isn't a shooter ,,,
He didn't want the hassle of transporting them.

With the exception of her old Mossberg 340KC target rifle which he also gave me,,,
The rest of her guns went to consignment and were sold off.

True Grit was her favorite movie,,,
The character of Mattie Ross was her heroine,,,
I named her shiny little revolver Mattie in remembrance.

http://www.aarondgraham.com/pics/LittleSister-lr.jpg

This "shiny" little revolver and my Moms Colt Frontier Scout,,,
Are two guns that might get buried with me.

I shoot this gun quite a bit,,,
Every time I uncase it,,,
I think of my friend.

Aarond

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rule303
June 26, 2014, 06:39 PM
My 1958 Ruger MKI target with 6 7/8" tapered barrel. My Grandpa bought it brand new, and used it to shoot bullseye until the early 80's. It was the first handgun I ever fired, and will be the last one I would consider getting rid of. It was tuned up by Clark in the 60's, I have all the paperwork. The bluing is well worn, but not scratched up or abused. Not sure how many rounds were put through it when I got it, but I have probably added 20,000 or so to the total count. Still shoots like new.

almostfree
June 26, 2014, 06:44 PM
My two are a nickel Colt Series 70 inherited from my grandfather and a blued 1968 Colt Python given to me recently by my father. While both are mostly pristine, I fully intend to put some honest wear on them.

FM12
June 27, 2014, 03:08 AM
My favorite? Whichever one I have with me at any given time.

TRX
June 27, 2014, 05:09 AM
My Dad passed away and I wound up with his Taurus 85, which he had never even gotten to fire.

I got my CHCL, bought a holster, and I carry it every day. It has holster marks now, and gallons of sweat haven't helped the finish much either. It's a tool, and it's doing what Dad bought it for; what could be better than that?

Art Eatman
June 27, 2014, 10:57 AM
I have my grandmother's Type 1 Woodsman. It was her squirrel gun. :)

Among my father's bringbacks from WW II are a 1911-date Luger, a Lilliput .25 ACP and a Walther Mark II .22 rifle.

Of my own? A 1903 Colt SAA Frontier .44-40 and a much-tweaked Lightweight Commander.

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