Boker - Argh.


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ugaarguy
June 24, 2014, 04:53 AM
Boker, I love them and I hate them.

I love their Plus line because they work closely with and pay custom makers and designers so they can produce (in China) good quality mass market versions of the custom at moderate to low prices. The Chad Los Banos designs, the Subcom in particular, are probably the best known. I own a Subcom Titan (the polished 440C blade frame lock with front and rear titanium handles version of the Subcom), it was a great buy at under $40. I want a Brad Zinker urban trapper (http://www.bladehq.com/item--Boker-Plus-Urban-Trapper-Folding--22653), and I'm glad Boker is offering it in the plus line for under $80 street because I wouldn't use one hard enough to justify searching and paying $500+ for one of his handmade pieces. But I don't know if I can buy one. You see, Boker blatantly stole Ethan Becker's handle design, although they won't sell knives with those handles in the US. But...

I hate their Magnum by Boker line. This is their shameless, blatant rip off of other companies designs but made with inferior materials line. This is old news to many of you, but example offenes include:

Magnum Slicer:
http://i.walmartimages.com/i/mp/00/78/88/57/02/0078885702500_P646672_500X500.jpg vs. ZT-0777 http://thrumylens.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/zt-0777_01.png

Or how about the "Magnum Flat Liner Lock"
http://www.bladehq.com/imgs/manual-knives/boker-manual/boker-magnum-folding/boker-magnum-folder-01ll276.jpg http://www.bladehq.com/imgs/manual-knives/boker-manual/boker-magnum-folding/boker-magnum-folder-01ll276-side.jpg

Tell me they didn't go the factory in China that makes the AG Russell Skorpion and tell them: "Hey, make that knife for us. Just make the blade with the cheapest 440 steel you can find, leave off the Hinderer lock bar stop disk, and don't worry about milling out the inside of the handles to reduce weight. Yeah, same exact milled border on the outside of the handle, same exact pocket clip."

A.G. Russell's Skorpion:
http://www.agrussell.com/images/medium/agfr-c4s-l-c3s-m.jpg http://www.agrussell.com/images/small/AGFR-C4S-L-C3S-M_1.jpg

Or how about a copy of the Buck Vantage - http://www.bladehq.com/item--Boker-Magnum-Green-Liner-Folding--17590.

There are others, I'm sure, but those are the ones that just really jumped out at me.

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bikerdoc
June 24, 2014, 08:07 AM
I only have one Bokar in my collection. An old folder with the tree crest.

hso
June 24, 2014, 09:02 AM
They did that to Becker and the US manager promised that it wouldn't go in the US catalogue for Boker. That doesn't stop it from coming in through the international back door, though.

chameleonbear
June 24, 2014, 08:42 PM
I only have one Boker blade it's the Boker Plus Valkyrie Bowie this one:
http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k539/ChameleonBladeForums/130408027-1.jpg

It's alright but it's completely unused. I got a package deal with it and my Becker BK-3 and that lead down a whole new rabbit hole which left the Boker unused and a CRAP TON of Becker magic.

Yo Mama
June 25, 2014, 09:28 AM
When you name your knife after a condom, I tend to loose all interest. :)

zhyla
June 26, 2014, 04:11 PM
I had no idea until recently that Boker makes SO MANY KNIVES. There's hundreds of models. They seem to make for more models than any other company. Weird considering I've never seen one in the wild (except one I own). They really should rebrand the Magnum crap to distance their good knives from the bad. I had always assumed all Boker was crap.

The Boker Plus line is mesmerizing. I have a Nano (wouldn't mind another one) and it's just fantastically well made for the price point. I'd like a Kwaiken at some point and there's several small fixed blades that I find interesting (Gnome, Sanyougo, etc). Other than the Kwaiken none of them are terribly expensive either ($40-ish).

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