Compact 45 ACP shopping


PDA






Grayrock
July 5, 2014, 01:58 PM
I may need to replace my Taurus PT-145 Millenium PRO. Having parts issues with the manufacturer- but that is a different story. I need to start looking around for a replacement. The PT-145 fit my hand well, it had night sights, 10 round magazine and was light enough to carry comfortably. What are similar pistols out there that might fit those criteria? Only thing I can recall is a Glock 30. I thought the XDs was comparable, but then saw it is single stack. S&W M&P seems to be bigger. What am I missing? Is this a niche in the market that does not need filling?

If you enjoyed reading about "Compact 45 ACP shopping" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
tomrkba
July 5, 2014, 02:46 PM
The Glock 30S is a great gun with a slightly more narrow slide than the standard Glock 30. However, the grip is the same width and this is what sits above the belt. I do recommend the Glock 30 because it's a great gun.

The most compact pistols on the market that hold eight or more rounds are the S&W M&P 45 Compact (8+1, with 10+1 option) and the Springfield Armory XD 45 Compact (10+1). The SIG P220R Compact holds 6+1 rounds and the Springfield Armory XDs holds 5+1. The Glock 36 holds 6+1 rounds.

The M&P 45 Compact, XD 45 Compact and SIG P220R Compact are all approximately Glock 19 size--which makes them quite concealable on the belt. The Glock 36 is also approximately the same size.

The M&P and XD 45 are more controllable than the small Glock 36, which I found to be very snappy. I have not fired the SIG P220R Compact, but I imagine it will roll under recoil like the standard P220 does.

I really tried to like the HK USP 45 Compact. The trigger was not all that great in double action mode. There are nine variants, including two that permit "cocked and locked" carry. The frontstrap checkering made the recoil feel worse than it actually was. It is a very wide gun and the magazine baseplate does not need the finger rest. Perhaps the HK 45 Compact may be better; take a look at it.

Of all the choices I listed, I'd choose the S&W M&P 45 Compact (with APEX trigger parts and Trijicon night sights). I'd carry it with an eight round magazine inserted with two spare 10 round magazines on my belt.

mdThanatos
July 5, 2014, 02:57 PM
Not sure about the grip sizes but here are the lengths of some contenders that aren't really expensive. All hold at least 9 rounds.

XD compact - 7.25
XDM compact - 7 in
P250 compact - 7.2 in
Glock 30 - 6.96 in

Sal1911A1
July 5, 2014, 02:58 PM
The Sig P250 45 compact with 9+1 is a fantastic carry gun and HD.
It offers the best DAO trigger and grip.

Glock 30 is top notch as well, just a different trigger system.

chris in va
July 5, 2014, 03:06 PM
I'm not a fan of Glock triggers, but the G30S interests me. It can take G21 mags too.

Grayrock
July 5, 2014, 05:58 PM
I did not see the 30S on Glock's website. And if I drop down to 8 round magazines I might as well start looking at a 1911 style also. Might be thinner to carry by a bit, but not as light.

RustyShackelford
July 5, 2014, 06:25 PM
For a compact, Commander size .45acp, Id look at these popular models;
HK45 compact LEM(the DA only format), the SIG P250 compact, the Para USA LDA(light double action/DAO), the M&P Compact, the Glock 30S or 36, the XDs 4.0 version, the Kahr P45.
I like the XDs 4.0 design. The bi-tone style looks impressive. The LDA Para USA line looks good. It's in .45acp & 9x19mm. The firm has a lifetime service plan. :D

S&W is a great value too. They offer a lot of after market parts & holsters/gear. My M&P SERPA holster fit both my 9mm full size and the compact 8 shot .45acp.

Glocks are always a good choice. The 30S was R&Ded by the SIS detectives of the LAPD. They needed a 2nd gun/back up for the 21s they've used for 4/5 years. The SIS is an elite unit that tracks career felons & violent robbers.

See; www.slickguns.com www.gunsamerica.com www.gunsinternational.com www.sigsauer.com .

CNobbe
July 5, 2014, 08:02 PM
I did not see the 30S on Glock's website. And if I drop down to 8 round magazines I might as well start looking at a 1911 style also. Might be thinner to carry by a bit, but not as light.
The right holster makes all the difference.

Grayrock
July 5, 2014, 09:10 PM
Perusing the Para-USA website and saw the Warthog. Looks like a contender!!

Mr.510
July 5, 2014, 09:44 PM
I carry an XD45 Compact daily and like it very much. It has a Springer Precision combat/carry 4 pound trigger job, Trijicon green/yellow night sights, and a Lasermax guiderod laser. I live/work swing shift and go to bed around sunrise so I like as many low light options as possible. It is more accurate than I am and has sent ~11k rounds downrange without a single hiccup. It eats anything from steel cased wadcutters to flying ashtrays, aluminum cased junk, you name it. I have not found a way to make it malfunction. It will not malfunction by limp wristing, even holding the gun loosely enough to very nearly drop it while using really weak reloads. It was a great gun stock but the trigger job turned it into a simply amazing weapon for me.

FuzzyBunny
July 5, 2014, 10:14 PM
P12-45

small but 12 rounds of .45 goodness.

JR24
July 6, 2014, 02:56 PM
After a long time searching for the same thing (compact, carry .45 ACP) I settled on the Glock 30S. 10+1 is solid and it is easy to conceal IWB (I find it pretty much just as easy to conceal as a Glock 19/23 or Ruger SR9c/40c).

Mine has been solid and dependable so far. Accurate as heck when I do my part. Does occasionally pinch the pinky though.

JohnnyBravo
July 6, 2014, 04:00 PM
I just finished looking at all the compact .45's.

I ended up with a FDE S&W .45c with a thumb safety.

No regrets.

FishEngineer
July 6, 2014, 04:09 PM
Para TAC FOUR LDA if you can tote it. I love the trigger on mine and it is draw and shoot ready with no need to carry cocked and locked. Sure is heavy loaded though....

Big Shrek
July 6, 2014, 04:14 PM
When it comes to compact .45's, S&W has some nice stuff...
although, IMHO, their best stuff was in Gen 3...like the CS45 ;)

http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/3131123810/7707950/4756c4783b8aad362ec9278e45046346.jpg

If I need more than 7 rounds of .45, something is VERY wrong...
but that's why ya carry 2 extra mags with you and a G20SF with 5 mags in the truck ;)

Rembrandt
July 6, 2014, 06:34 PM
The most compact .45 ACP offered is the Boberg. Have a 9mm Boberg that is the best CCW I've ever carried....hoping to get one in .45 one day.

http://community.bobergarms.com/?utm_source=community%2Bmenu&utm_medium=community%2Bpage&utm_campaign=home%2Bpage

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0166/4838/products/45_Platinum_Prod_medium.jpg?v=1394599067

Grayrock
July 6, 2014, 06:38 PM
After looking at them, The S&W 45C and the Para TAC FOUR LDA look a little too large for my purposes. That Boberg looks funky & only has a 6 round magazine. If I need more than 7 rounds of .45, something is VERY wrong... I was a Boy Scout- Always Prepared. And 10 rounds is more prepared than 7. I doubt I would NEED more than 2 rounds, but I WANT 10. Thanks for the suggestions.

PO2Hammer
July 6, 2014, 07:01 PM
I recently bought an HK45C, just a great gun if don't mind spending the money.
The Glock 30 is a very good gun as well, and would be my choice if they only cycled SWCs.

HexHead
July 6, 2014, 07:10 PM
I recently bought an HK45C, just a great gun if don't mind spending the money.
The Glock 30 is a very good gun as well, and would be my choice if they only cycled SWCs.
That HK45C also has polygonal rifling and shouldn't be used with lead bullets either, just like a Glock.

burk
July 6, 2014, 10:23 PM
I just went from a Kimber CDP Pro to a Glock 30SF. While the Glock is a bit fatter, it's lighter, holds 10+1 (I carry 13 round 21 mags for back up), it seems to shoot softer, and my groups are just as tight. For me it was cost, I love 1911's but I wanted to switch to the same platform for all my SD guns. And another 1911 would have set me back almost double what a Glock costs and that doesn't include the 4-500 round break in. I carry the 30SF in an Alien Gear IWB holster and I like the set up so far.

Ed4032
July 6, 2014, 10:50 PM
Check out the Kahr CW45. Takes a 1911 officers mag for 7 + 1.

PO2Hammer
July 7, 2014, 12:04 AM
That HK45C also has polygonal rifling and shouldn't be used with lead bullets either, just like a Glock.
Yup, but I shoot plated and jacketed SWCs.

460Kodiak
July 7, 2014, 01:46 AM
XDs for me

jjones45
July 7, 2014, 02:27 AM
I have a hk usp 45c, but may be going to a glock 30S

Scarpia
July 7, 2014, 08:00 AM
The PT-145 fit my hand well, it had night sights, 10 round magazine and was light enough to carry comfortably. What are similar pistols out there that might fit those criteria?

I was carrying the PT145 Mil Pro but it felt too bulky particularly with that stupid rail. I found the PT140 Mil Pro in 40 S&W was slightly smaller in overall length and still packed 10+1 rounds of stopping power and NO rail. The feel of the grip of the '140 is the same as the '145. I know you asked about 45 ACP but the 40 S&W isn't too far off, frankly, I'm OK with either.

If you are having problems with Taurus support and are opposed to another Taurus product, then the PT140 isn't the answer. My experience with the PT145 and PT140 is that they both go bang with every trigger pull. Both guns have chambered, fired and ejected hundreds of rounds without one glitch.

dgod
July 7, 2014, 10:04 AM
I personally rotate between:

XDS w/ CT
Colt New Agent w/CT
Sig 1911SS /w/CT

All with Guard Dogs & Glasiers Alternating

The trick for the Heaver/Longer 1911 is HOLSTER..... Get the right one. Mine is a Custom Build by a local guy, and I love to carry it as well.

Occasionally, I splurge and carry the Public Defender W/.410 Buckshot, they don't make a CT for that variant.

Good Luck

2ndAmendmentNut
July 7, 2014, 04:50 PM
Sig used to make a 245 which are very nice compact 45s that can still be found used on occasion. Sig now makes a compact variant of their 220 which I have heard good things about. Kahr also makes a number of reputable compact 45s

skoro
July 8, 2014, 04:01 PM
I thought the XDs was comparable, but then saw it is single stack.

Last year at about this time, I was looking over the subcompact 45 offerings. Initially, I was set on a Glock 36 or 30s. I finally decided on the XDs45, even though it has that small 5+1 capacity just because it's SO compact. I had a few second thoughts when it disappeared for two months when I sent it in for the recall. But I have to say that I'm very pleased with the choice since it returned. Yes, it still has the small capacity. But it handles and shoots so well that it's a compromise that I'm willing to accept. Recoil is surprisingly manageable. Reliability has been flawless.

No regrets.

Cooldill
July 8, 2014, 04:13 PM
I'd get an XDS 45. Small gun, highly handy.

nugun55
July 8, 2014, 07:17 PM
My XDS45 works for me.

Grayrock
July 9, 2014, 04:08 PM
Do any larger cap mags fit the XDs? If they stick out the bottom it is OK as a reload.

proximo
July 9, 2014, 06:37 PM
The XDS 45 has optional 7 round mags

Grayrock
July 9, 2014, 06:44 PM
I'm with you, Scarpia- I really like my PT-145. But every time I extolled its virtues the peanut gallery opened up and all the Taurus bashing started. I sure hope I can get it fixed. I have seen a few negative reports on the Warthog and that is dampening my enthusiasm for it. Wondering if the Bobo pocket gun comparison chart lists the PT-145, Warthog, XDs & Glock30s? Guess I'll go look.

TommyD45
July 18, 2014, 05:13 AM
That HK45C also has polygonal rifling and shouldn't be used with lead bullets either, just like a Glock.

I believe the limitation on the Glock does not apply to the HK45c. From page 27 of the HK user manual:

"NOTE: Currently there are no known .45 ACP ammunition types that are not compatible with the HK45 pistols with the exception of some light, match grade wadcutter loads that provide insufficient recoil impulse to reliably operate the HK45. All HK45 pistols are approved for use with +P and +P+ ammunition. The use of +P and +P+ ammunition does accelerate wear and reduce the service life on the component parts of any pistol including the HK45."

BLB68
July 18, 2014, 09:44 AM
There's also the Bersa Thunder 45 Ultra Compact Pro (http://www.bersa.com/bersa-firearms/thunder-uc-pro-series.html), but it's a 7+1.

Grayrock
July 18, 2014, 04:19 PM
While shopping virtually, the Sig P250 caught my eye. The sub-compact version in .40 S&W holds 10. But I am reading mixed opinions on this model. I also see there is a world of opinion on the 40 vs 45 topic. Glad I'm not in a hurry to buy.

RustyShackelford
July 18, 2014, 06:07 PM
To insure proper feeding & cycle, avoid jams/double feeds, etc, I suggest using .45acp rounds that can work in short barrels.
Corbon's top rated PowRball, Speer Gold Dot 230gr JHP +P short barrel, Federal Guard Dog, 230gr milspec FMJ(like the Winchester 1911 FMJ).

Rusty

shlike
July 18, 2014, 06:29 PM
Here is my Kahr CW45. Great concealment gun. Has run flawlessly out of the box (over 1000 rounds).
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/shlike48316/CW45WITHPACHMAYRGRIPGLOVE2_zps906b423b.jpg (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/shlike48316/media/CW45WITHPACHMAYRGRIPGLOVE2_zps906b423b.jpg.html)

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/shlike48316/CW45ampDETCONCEALMENT2_zps731aa871.jpg (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/shlike48316/media/CW45ampDETCONCEALMENT2_zps731aa871.jpg.html)

I would recommend this gun to anyone looking for a light, compact, single stack .45 that is accurate, reliable, and with a smoooooooth trigger pull (like a fine DA revolver).

george burns
July 18, 2014, 07:47 PM
I have had a 30 since they came out, "with no rail", I sold it 3 weeks ago, am now evaluating the same as this thread, although I have an XDS with 4 mags. I am either going with a 30S, or a Gen4 SF. I need a rail for a lasr/light and wanted the thinner slide of the "S" or the frame variation of the Gen 4.
Still haven't decided which way I want to go. But the XDM has a nice 3.8 version with 9 & 13 rounds. Which should also work well.
The next step up is the H&K if you wand more than a 1911 in a small package.

mastergunner
July 18, 2014, 09:16 PM
.45 XDS 3.5 works for me FMJ will do deadly damage to anything.

burk
July 18, 2014, 10:01 PM
While shopping virtually, the Sig P250 caught my eye. The sub-compact version in .40 S&W holds 10. But I am reading mixed opinions on this model. I also see there is a world of opinion on the 40 vs 45 topic. Glad I'm not in a hurry to buy.

Unless you want a revolver trigger with a looooooooong heavy double action for every shot on a fairly cheaply made gun stay away. Sig makes some good stuff and when the P250 was $349 on sale pre Newtown it was a good value, but at the $549 to $599 they are going for now their are a host of better made and functioning firearms available as already mentioned here.

In 9 and 40 (while not a carry gun) the 2022 from Sig is a FAR better gun.

Elkins45
July 19, 2014, 04:17 PM
I have owned (and traded) a Glock 30, Glock 36, Kahr P45 and Sig P245. Of the four, the only one I really regret getting rid of is the Sig. I really wanted to love the Kahr (I carry a P9 now) but shooting it was like gripping a cheese grater.

I might consider a 30sf. I just bought an M&P 45 compact and initial impressions are very positive.

fastbolt
July 19, 2014, 05:40 PM
... fit my hand well, it had night sights, 10 round magazine and was light enough to carry comfortably. What are similar pistols out there that might fit those criteria?

... What am I missing? Is this a niche in the market that does not need filling?

Dunno about "niche", but the smaller 9/.40 guns certainly seem to be selling in greater numbers (outside the predictable 1911 .45 market segment). You often see a lot more interest in the G26/27's than the G30/36's among a lot of folks, for example.

Also, if a 10-rd magazine is firmly on your list of criteria, it can start to restrict your potential choices. ;)

Personally, I own, use and have carried smallish .45's with 3 1/4", 3 1/2" & 3 3/4" barrels. (My larger .45's have 4 1/4", 4 1/2" & 5" barrels)

I don't mind carrying .45's that have 6, 7 or 8-rd mag capacities ... but then I spent some years carrying 6-shot service revolvers, a Colt Commander and a Star PD off-duty.

My M&P 45 uses standard 10-rd mags, which are a bit better than the 7 & 8-rd mags I use in my 1911's, but I'd not be too concerned if I owned & carried a M&P 45 compact that came with 8-rd mags, either.

Matter of fact, my CS45, "original" cutaway grip 4513TSW and Colt OM all came with 6-rd standard capacity mags, making the 7 & 8- mags seem as though they contain an extra margin of capacity.

When it comes right down to it, though, I look at "capacity" as being just one of the factors to consider when selecting an off-duty (and now retirement) weapon, and not necessarily a critical factor, at that. Grip girth, controllability & overall recoil management are of a bit more interest to me, nowadays.

Of course, this is from someone who regularly carries a 5-shot .38 snub or a 6-rd LCP for retirement, too.

Training, practice, skillset, mindset and weapon maintenance/service are all much more important to my needs than sheer capacity (or even caliber, for that matter).

I also tend to like to stay with the major gun companies who either see a lot of LE/Gov business, or at least offer weapons that are commonly approved for optional/personal use by a lot of LE agencies. Reliability and feeding/functioning with modern hollowpoint ammo produced by the major American ammo makers is important to me, too.

You can probably try out a number of potentially interesting smallish .45's that may appeal to you and may fit within your needs and preferences.

george burns
July 19, 2014, 09:14 PM
Sold my 30 last month picked up a 30 "S" today. Will shoot it tomorrow. If you want the maximum amount of 45 power in a small 20 oz gun, there is nothing else on the market. After 20 years I went and got the same gun with a reduced weight and thickness, near perfect for a 45. Where else can you get 11 rounds of 45 in a lightweight package like the G30 S? My XDS is second string with 8 rounds, but with the Glock 21 I can have a spare with 13, or a flush with 9.

shlike
July 19, 2014, 11:28 PM
I have owned (and traded) a Glock 30, Glock 36, Kahr P45 and Sig P245. Of the four, the only one I really regret getting rid of is the Sig. I really wanted to love the Kahr (I carry a P9 now) but shooting it was like gripping a cheese grater.

I might consider a 30sf. I just bought an M&P 45 compact and initial impressions are very positive.

Regarding the "cheese-grater" grips that caused you to not like your Kahr P45, that's why I put this Pachmayr Tactical Grip Sleeve on my Kahr CW45. It really enhances the grip and is very comfortable to shoot:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/shlike48316/CW45WITHPACHMAYRGRIPGLOVE3_zps3643c870.jpg (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/shlike48316/media/CW45WITHPACHMAYRGRIPGLOVE3_zps3643c870.jpg.html)

george burns
July 20, 2014, 05:02 PM
:DThis was the first 2 boxes or whatever I had with me, in 230 grain fmj, fired out of the Glock 30 S, that I got yesterday, 3 different kinds of ammo, federal, Remington, and Tula,. Gun had not been cleaned yet and I hadn't fired any gun for a good 6 months.
This was at distances of 20 -60 ft. Most of them were from beyond 50 ft. I shoot fast none were truly aimed or staged, except for a few double taps. I just empty a 10 round mag in 5-10 seconds I started out slow at about 1 shot per second, and gradually increased both distance and speed. I was finished with 2. 5 boxes in a matter of 10 to 20 minutes, as there was nothing to do but shoot.
I used to be pretty good at this, and near the end my groups tightened up and speed increased, the gun was flawless, better trigger than on my old 30, that I sold last month. I need to go back with a few boxes of hollow points. There was 1 flyer out of all shots fired, although a few were out of the kill zone.
Makes me want to start shooting again. Near the end of the drill I got the feel back. The first 10 rounds actually hurt my hand until I found my sweet spot on the grip.
Several were taken one handed also from 20-25 yards.
This is the perfect weapon, I almost forgot how deadly this gun could be. If 11 rounds of 45 won't work for you, you are in trouble that there is likely no way out if If you were in doubt, please take the word of an old shooter, this gun rocks. I hardly ever shoot 45 ammo anymore, I do dry fire drills late at night, when the wife is asleep, it seems to help.
The one with the most holes was the first one, I buckled down on the second one, and had 5 minutes of experience with it by then.
Also I was shooting 5-7 rounds per mag so as to test the 2 new ones and the old 9 rounder. Frog lubed her today, next time will shoot for accuracy.

TomJ
July 22, 2014, 10:54 PM
I own both the 30S and XDS .45. Both are great guns which I use for concealed carry. I like the increased capacity of the 30S, and it conceals best when I'm wearing an untucked shirt or jacket. I use the XDS as a pocket gun (it's at the larger end of that spectrum) when I need to wear my shirt tucked. You won't be disappointed with either.

jbrown50
July 23, 2014, 02:54 PM
I own both the XDS-45 and the Glock 30S. The XDS-45 is my everywhere carry gun and it's much easier to conceal. I carry two spare magazines with it so I'm not worried about capacity. I'm a little more accurate with the XDS than with the 30S too although the 30S is definitely no slouch accuracy wise.

I like them both and they're both keepers. Although the 30S is larger and fills the bulk of the role of my range/home defense gun it still easily conceals inside the waistband and I can use the 13 round Glock 21 magazines with it too.

george burns
July 23, 2014, 04:01 PM
If you really want "Lightweight", try the Liberty 45 cal 70 grain Ammo. The stuff weighs less than half as much as most any brand of HP you can think of.
I started using it on my Kahr PM9 over a year ago. And it drastically reduced the weight of the package. With The Glock 30"S" or the XDS, "which I also pocket carry, the weight is almost cut in half.
Where are you going to find a 22 -23 oz Loaded 45 with 11 rounds. It's unreal even compared to my standard 30. It is kind of the perfect carry option. I can't believe they were able to make the Glock 30 so light. It is all in the thickness of the slide and barrel. You can't slide a standard barrel into an "S", they took all that extra material from the thickness of the barrel off.
If I remember correctly it is lighter than my 26.
That frog Lube made it like Velvet also, I started doing all of my guns and Knives with that stuff. Great for your carry gun where it may get sweat on the slide, this will stop any damage like pitting or rust, from occurring down the road from what I read.

nugun55
July 23, 2014, 10:16 PM
XDS .45. It surprised me, how well it shoots and how accurately I can shoot it. A lot of power in a compact package.

gotboostvr
July 24, 2014, 05:48 AM
I don't have as much experience as some with the higher cap pistols as some, but you mentioned you night be open to a 1911 variant.

I came into a RIA compact in a trade and it's scary accurate and haven't had any reliability issues.

I might not have bought one myself, but after some shooting, I'm glad I got one and might look to RIA again in the future instead of the colt I was thinking about.

george burns
July 24, 2014, 11:41 AM
Answering your original question, there aren't that many small lightweight hi capacity 45's. Once you eliminate 1911's for weight and capacity, you really only have the XDS and the Glock 30, I have both, and interchange as necessary, the XDS can be pocket carried, and the 30S can be concealed and also with the 13 round mag, be your house gun.
There aren't too many others I can think of that are 20 ozs and carry 8-16 rounds of 45, "you can add a +2 to the 13 round mag"
By the way I had inquired about a holster for the 30s, but wanted to speak to someone at the company about some special work. They called me, and after a nice conversation, he told me that right now, they are making more holsters for the 30S than any other handgun. No reason to not tell the truth since he said if it didn't work for me, I could send it back. "Blue Ridge

Cee Zee
July 25, 2014, 01:56 AM
I may need to replace my Taurus PT-145 Millenium PRO

I've had incredibly good luck with my PT-145. What parts are having a problem if you don't mind my asking? And what generation is your pistol? I think I might try to find a second PT-145 if I had problems so I'd have a backup set of parts. I really like my Taurus. I stopped carrying my Sig P220 in favor of the smaller but higher capacity PT-145. Mine is Gen. III btw. I looked long and hard for the right CCW pistol when I bought that Taurus. I never found anything that had the features it had and mine is very accurate and very dependable. I hear what you're saying about parts problems but have you thought about just buying another one and having a parts gun? They really are excellent guns IMO. I know Taurus quality can be spotty but mine has been flawless through about 2500 rounds. I carry a Sig XDm in the car now and usually carry a Ruger LCP as a CCW piece because of the weight but I ain't about to let go of my Taurus. I still carry it once in a while. And BTW I live having the rail on it. I have a laser mounted to mine and I adapted a CrossDraw holster to fit with the laser attached. If not for the weight I'd carry it as my CCW weapon all the time. I just don't like having my pants sagging down on one side so much.

There aren't too many others I can think of that are 20 ozs and carry 8-16 rounds of 45

He has one but it has problems. IMO it's dang near a perfect CCW piece for a .45. Not one with problems of course. The weight of one is 22.2 ounces so it's a bit over your listed number but I can't imagine getting one to weigh much less than 22.2 ounces.

george burns
July 25, 2014, 06:55 PM
Dimensions
•Length (overall): 177 mm / 6.97 inch
•Length (slide cpl.): 172 mm / 6.77 inch
•Width: 32.5 mm / 1.28 inch
•Height with magazine: 122 mm / 4.80 inch
•Barrel length: 96 mm / 3.78 inch
•Length of twist: 400 mm / 15.75 inch
•Trigger distance: 72.5 mm / 2.85 inch
•Trigger travel to discharge: 12.5 mm / 0.49 inch
•Length between sights (polymer): 150 mm / 5.91 inch

Weight
•Pistol w/o magazine: 575 g / 20.28 oz.
•Magazine std. empty: 70 g / 2.47 oz.
•Magazine std. full (depending on ammo used): 280 g / 9.88 oz.
http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/glock-30s-45-acp/
The "S" is lighter than the regular 30, that's one reason I traded up for one, the thickness of the frame "especially the Grip", and the weight.. It's around the same as my Glock 26.

ritepath
July 25, 2014, 08:58 PM
My pt-145 never run more than one magazine in a row. Normally only 3 or 4 shots in a row. But dang I loved that little pistol, it carried well, recoil was pretty good, accuracy was good IMHO.

content
July 25, 2014, 09:45 PM
I like my Para "Slim Hawg" had doubts at first but it is a keeper.
Only 7 rounds though.

200943

Cee Zee
July 25, 2014, 11:40 PM
My pt-145 never run more than one magazine in a row.

Do you know what generation it is? It makes a pretty big difference.

RussellC
July 29, 2014, 10:21 PM
I just went throught the mind games of buying a compact .45 for CCW purposes. I have always liked Glocks, but was confused about the different variations and what was what. I went to a gun store where the owner was very knowledgeable about the Glocks, and had every .45 they made in stock, or at least all the compact ones. 36, 30, 30 SF, 30S etc.

He handed them to me blind, one at a time and let me feel them. I handled the 30S last, and bought it on the spot. Perfect for me, and no harder recoil than most of my 9mm with fairly hot loads. The thinner slide of the 36 and the SF frame was perfection for me. Otherwise, it would have been the Springfield XDs, but the capacity and the fit in my hand was just perfect with the 30S. New favorite gun!

Russellc

If you enjoyed reading about "Compact 45 ACP shopping" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!