Is this true at your local ranges.????


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jeeptim
July 13, 2014, 12:05 AM
Not sure if this is the right place for this ????
Today at the range I was picking up all the brass I could.
And out of 50 shooters I counted 42 ARs all in .223 now I have noticed a big up tic in ARs
But WOW. For the longest time I fighted the AR craze, the last time I shot one well an M-16 was in the 70s while in the service, maybe that's why I dident think much of them. Did brake down and build one, as much as I hate to say ... love shooting it.
I live in kaliforinastan and as of the past few years all the cool old surplus rifles have gone by the wayside. I bring out the mausers, enfields, sks, colt .45 it turns in to a history lesson.
Though where I shoot is the most expensive zip code in the U.S. The few non ARs are mostly a few guys in $500.000 Lambergines and the like shooting crazy priced guns and scopes.
Love scrounging their lapua brass.
Just wondering if the AR is as popular in other states as in calli?

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Comrade Mike
July 13, 2014, 12:12 AM
My range is always a healthy mix of everything. Can't say I could give one style of rifle a nod over others

Welding Rod
July 13, 2014, 12:17 AM
It seems almost everyone that shoots at my club range has an AR, though they have others guns too.

MErl
July 13, 2014, 12:19 AM
They are not uncommon at the range I frequent but it is probably 50% bolt guns. The semi-autos are usually an AR variant though.

What I like is seeing more suppressors.

NWcityguy2
July 13, 2014, 12:32 AM
At the Fort Bliss Rod and Gun Club, ARs out number all other rifle combined. El Paso isn't exactly a small army town either. I'd say it is half military folks and half civilians that frequent the range.

Revoliver
July 13, 2014, 12:42 AM
To average all the ranges I shoot at, I'd say

5% shoot lever actions
5% shoot revolvers
10% shoot pistols
15% shoot semi autos other than ARs (AKs, M1As, 10/22s for example)
30% shoot ARs
35% shoot bolt actions


Now, this should not be confused with what people actually own, I have no idea what they own for guns. It is just a guesstimated average of what I see on any given day across the ranges I shoot at.

Tony k
July 13, 2014, 12:49 AM
Most avid shooters I know have at least one. Around here, I think most people go to the rifle range to practice for hunting season or just casual fun. I don't know anyone who uses an AR platform for hunting around here (legal in Oregon, but you have to use a 5 round mag for hunting)

I shot in a sillouette competition today. I think there were 22 competitors.

Here's what I recall:
Iron sight category:
1 old school type AR with the handle, heavy barreled
1 M1 Garand
1 K31 Swiss
1 M1903 Springfield

Scoped Category
2 M4 style carbines
1 AR10
The rest were high end bolt action rifles with heavy barrels and fancy scopes. Those guys always win.

Jeeptim, you say you live in the wealthiest zip code in the nation? I live in a county of less than 7000 people and it's more than an hour's drive to the nearest stoplight. Lamborghinis? I'm pretty sure every vehicle at our range today was a pickup. Before the match started, I was talking to the owner of a small logging company about whether or not he was going to invest in a new feller-buncher. After the match I was listening to a couple ranchers talk about baling hay. I digress, but I guess our great country has it all...

Anyway. Right now, not many people are shooting AR's all that often. However, I bet once we finish our 3-gun competition bays, the AR's are gonna come out of the woodwork.

LAGS
July 13, 2014, 01:07 AM
I haven't seen an Upserge in AR's but almost every weekend at the range, there is a Fair Share of the " Tommy Tactical " Guys all decked out in their camo, and shooting AR's as fast as they can at a target less than 25 yards away.
We even have the Full Auto guys that dont place their targets out at 25 Yds either.

elkhunterCO
July 13, 2014, 01:09 AM
My favorite range is driving out in the hills on some BLM ground and setting up a bipod on the back of my flatbed. Occasionally I do drive to a public range set up by the DOW, I feel pretty inadequate when I do. The guys there have fancy little benchrest contraptions and Swarovski spotting scopes to see a bullet hole at 400 yards. Or the guy on the next bench over has a 338 Lapua with a muzzle brake that causes a minor earthquake when I am just about to touch one off.

R.W.Dale
July 13, 2014, 01:32 AM
It's on its way up here too and not just on the range but in the deer woods too.

Look at it like this. The AR platform is well on its way to becoming the "universal" rifle platform of this century much in the same ways the Mauser and it's derivatives were in the last century.

sappyg
July 13, 2014, 01:42 AM
Last visit to the outdoor range saw nearly every bench with an AR.

The AR is THE go to gun in these parts. Seems like everyone has one. This was not the case 10 years ago.

Skylerbone
July 13, 2014, 02:04 AM
Not here, and the county I live in has its fair share of wealthy residents though I've counted precisely 1 Lotus cruising the local streets, yeah, it stood out. No, guys round these parts play with antique greenery, as in Deere, alongside their Lambo priced combines. There are a fair number of AR owners but I've yet to count more than 3 on the line at a time in 20+ years of range trips. Plenty of diversity here.

TIMC
July 13, 2014, 03:25 AM
Around here AR's have jumped into the majority category at the range. Everyone seems to be shooting one at the range when I go.

ZGunner
July 13, 2014, 04:17 AM
No Lambos at the range I go to! I can't even take the Mustang after a rain. Just some good-ole-boys in their pickups.

Usually when I go on the weekend their might be one or two other people there. During the week I'll have it to myself. So I judge what kind of firearms are there by the brass my wife picks up. I swear sometimes she'd rather sort through brass than shoot! We see a lot of .223. Then a pretty even mix of .308, .270, 30-06, and 30-30. This leads me to believe the reason I never see many folks out there is they zero in their hunting rifle and leave. A few are their to shoot their .223s, probably ARs by the amount of brass.

It makes sense. They're more affordable now than ever (and ammo), the aftermarket for them is second to none, and they're very nice for all types of shooters.

benEzra
July 13, 2014, 04:38 PM
Just wondering if the AR is as popular in other states as in calli?
Yes. I'm in eastern NC, and on any given day probably half of the centerfire rifles on the line are AR's.

It is by far the most popular centerfire rifle in the United States.

taliv
July 13, 2014, 05:47 PM
which is awesome because the SCROTUS said that "in common use" is a key part of their precedent from MILLER. Meaning, if we can show a gun is in common use, it will be difficult for them to ban it. and when the gun they want to ban most is the most popular gun, it's really got to chap their cheeks. which makes me happy

MErl
July 13, 2014, 07:01 PM
I wonder about their intent on the scope of that common use designation.
Which is it:
The model colt 6920 (and each other variant by name) is not in common use and not protected.
The style AR-15 is entering common use and may be protected.
The semi-automatic, magazine fed method is in common use and should be protected.

cat_IT_guy
July 13, 2014, 11:36 PM
I would say the majority of rifle shooting on my local range is AR15, Mosin Nagant, and AK/SKS. Lots of other stuff, too, but I bet those first 3 make up 75% or more.

The_Next_Generation
July 14, 2014, 02:09 AM
Yep, lots of ARs at my range! Boy, is it a beautiful sight :D

I'd say ARs fill half of the 24 or so benches on a Saturday, then a quarter of them have Savage/R700/etc with "tacical" scopes (even a suppressor sometimes). The rest are AK/SKS type rifles and 22s.

zerobarrier
July 14, 2014, 06:45 AM
No one is ever at the range when I go there. It only a 500yd range way out in the country. When I go I usually take my AR so in my case 100% of the people at the range have an AR :neener:

gotigers
July 14, 2014, 09:13 AM
My range near Memphis is a mix. ARs are in the minority generally, except for 3 gun events. Then it is 99.9% ARs. Being a big skeet/trap (15 or so) range, shotgun rules at my home range.

bannockburn
July 14, 2014, 10:05 AM
Maybe ten years ago it was probably a fairly even mix of 50% hunting rifles (bolt and lever action), and military surplus rifles (mainly Mosin Nagants, Mausers, Lee Enfields, and SKS carbines); and 50% AR-15 rifles in various configurations. Nowadays I would say it's more like 15% to 20% with the bolt and lever actions and 80%+ with the AR platforms. It just seems like practically everybody these days has at least one AR that they take to the range.

Reloadron
July 14, 2014, 10:36 AM
I do my outside range shooting here at Kebly's in N. Lawrence, Ohio (http://www.kelbly.com/index.html). Kebly's range host the annual Super Shoot in bench rest competition so not too many AR type rifles show up there. Mostly a bench rest crowd and while I am not quite a bench rest type they are a real nice group of people. I do shoot AR there as in AR15 and AR10 as well as a host of other rifles. Nice range, well groomed. Works for me anyways. :)

Ron

Walkalong
July 14, 2014, 10:59 AM
We have everything from milsurps to ARs, but there are a lot of ARs these days.

Clinton made the somewhat unknown (definitely not mainstream) SKS and AK popular when he tried to ban them. (Drove prices up as well) Now Obama, Pelosi, and their kind seem to have helped do the same for the AR, but the AR had a head start since it was already very popular.

The silver lining so to speak. :)

fotheringill
July 14, 2014, 11:35 AM
At my range on Long Island in New York, I would say it is about 40% AR and AK and the rest a wide mix of WWII military rifles in original or rechambered calibers, BR rifles and then .22's and such, bolt, lever and semi.

Reloadron
July 14, 2014, 12:23 PM
At my range on Long Island in New York, I would say it is about 40% AR and AK and the rest a wide mix of WWII military rifles in original or rechambered calibers, BR rifles and then .22's and such, bolt, lever and semi.
When I was a kid growing up on LI (Uniondale / E. Hempstead) area it was at least an hours drive to find a range. My dad would take me and my 22 out for the day so I could shoot. Now LI seems to have plenty of ranges, nice to see considering it is indeed NY.

I'll on the island in a few weeks to see old friends and knock down a few beers on the beach. :) That is one trip I don't take any guns on. :)

Ron

Sound Dude
July 14, 2014, 12:46 PM
Yes - at my range too. I haven't done any quantitative analysis - just gut feel from what I see. Most of the AR shooters don't appear to be interested in developing real marksmanship skills either. Shooting at 25 yards, seeing how fast they can empty a magazine, etc. Sure, I joined the AR owning club about 1 year ago (resistance was futile), but I almost hate bringing it to the range as not to be lumped in with the rest of the yahoos.

ECVMatt
July 14, 2014, 02:42 PM
I would say the AR Genie is fully out of the bottle and there will be no returning it. The rifle is so flexible, so customizable, and so accurate it will be hard for people to give it up. DI, Piston, Hybrid, or Manuel operation, I think some form of AR will be with us for a long time to come.

Plastikosmd
July 14, 2014, 03:08 PM
using revo's % chart, here it is more like..

2% shoot lever actions, maybe bit more during hunting season sight-in
2% shoot revolvers
21% shoot pistols
20% shoot semi autos other than ARs (AKs, M1As, 10/22s for example)
30% shoot ARs
25% shoot bolt actions

.00001% me shooting blackpowder, sigh

ArchAngelCD
July 14, 2014, 05:42 PM
When I was a kid growing up on LI (Uniondale / E. Hempstead) area it was at least an hours drive to find a range. My dad would take me and my 22 out for the day so I could shoot. Now LI seems to have plenty of ranges, nice to see considering it is indeed NY.

I'll on the island in a few weeks to see old friends and knock down a few beers on the beach. :) That is one trip I don't take any guns on. :)

Ron
I hear you on that one. I moved to PA from NY 9 years ago and every month or so I take a trip to LI to visit my grandchildren and that is the trip I'm sure not to take guns on too. Just passing through NYC with a gun would give me hives! (darn shame isn't it?)

Hardtarget
July 15, 2014, 08:18 PM
The last few range trips...there were few other shooters. I saw several bolt actions in center fire and one .22 rifle. I saw one falling block .22. ( that was my grand daughter learning how to shoot :D)

I had my M1, Win. .30-30, K-31 Swiss....and my AR. I just bought it this year, and...I love to shoot the darn thing! :what: I never thought I'd like it THAT much!

My wife thinks I'm a bit crazy. I still like the "big guns" but the AR is new to me so it gets a bit more trigger time.

I'm ready for another range trip!

Mark

bearman49709
July 15, 2014, 09:08 PM
Not counting mine and a friends I have only seen one AR type rifle at our range and that was in 1998 or 1999. I know they have been there because I find brass on the ground mostly steel case almost every time I go there. I have never seen anyone hunting with one. This is a big hunting area and every school in the area is closed the opeaning day of deer season.

ridgerunner1965
July 15, 2014, 09:41 PM
me and my son have ar rifles. dont know a lot of other guys that do. we dont go to ranges as we have our own range. currently our rifles are dialed in but we dont shoot them a lot cuz of ammo prices. most of the hillbillys i hang with are doing good to have a decent deer rifle. everybody comes down here to site in ther rifles before deer season.

it wud be nice to see a ar or two. i can fix them. i end up werkin on crappy rossi single shots and ancheint 30-30 rifles.

its hard to understand why when yu buy a 30$ scope your rifel wont shoot good. jeez

Deltaboy
July 15, 2014, 09:47 PM
Mix but sales wise my local gun store can't keep them in stock.

Steve S.
July 15, 2014, 10:14 PM
I frequent a unsupervised Conservation range where I know that the drunks and crazies will not drive to; once in a while, the p/u with the "Bubba" Clan will show with their old military bolt action stuff but never an AR - few and far between (at least at that range). Good shooting!

Captains1911
July 15, 2014, 11:07 PM
The AR-15 is the most popular rifle in America, so it's only logical that they will be the most prevalent at shooting ranges.

FrankCastleThePunisher
July 16, 2014, 01:13 AM
The two ranges I go to show a majority AR 15's. It's amazing how many AR 15 rifles have been sold just in the last 5 1/2 years all across the country. Wonder what the motive for such a buying spree?

lencac
July 16, 2014, 03:23 PM
Don't know because my local range closed because their insurance company refused to renew their coverage. :cuss:

Ed Ames
July 17, 2014, 12:47 AM
It is the trend everywhere. It is a late, and IMO pretty amazing, trend in CA.

At my usual range the ratio for rifles is about 50% AR (including .308 versions), 25% combloc semi-auto ("AK"s), 10% 10/22s, 10% bolt action hunting rifles, and 5% everything else (lever guns, bullpups, single shots, misc. other .22s, etc).

Before I left California the state of ARs there was bleak and marginal. I never saw them when I went shooting. There were a few FFLs who were willing to transfer "Off-list Lowers", and a whole bunch of hoop jumping and wishful thinking. Guys were bolting magazines in place and popping the rear pin to reload. Guys were buying dozens of off list lowers in the hopes that CA would ban them, allowing the owner to register them all as California Assault Weapons so they could have pistol grips and detachable magazines at the same time. Guys were designing lower receivers that didn't have pistol grips but would take a standard AR upper.

I visited a California gun store in December of 2006 and there wasn't a single "black rifle" in the place. The most evil looking gun was a Remington 870 shotgun with synthetic stock and pistol grip.

In January of 2007, at about the same time I was pulling a moving trailer out of the state towards my new home in Texas, the first of the modern AR "bullet button" setups was being finalized. This is something that had been talked about on calguns.net for a few years but someone made it happen.

Fast forward to last month. I was visiting California and stopped in at that same gun store I had last seen in 2006. Not to buy anything, but out of macabre curiosity after years of being able to buy just about anything with far fewer silly laws to hold me back. What did I see?

At least half their inventory was AR-pattern rifles. They had 5.56 and 7.62, they had some 6.5 models. They had a wall with various AR magazines (all 10rd of course). Same store, total change. From a distance it looked like the first gun store I visited after moving to TX in 2007. Of course they were all set up with bullet buttons, but it was really amazing to see the results of 7 years positive effort.

I didn't go to a shooting range during my visit. BLM land in the Mojave, yes, but nowhere I had to shoot within sight of other humans. I almost wish I had. I bet I would have been pleasantly surprised at the number of AR type rifles.

Anyway, to answer the question: they are extremely common in most of the US (by land area), and California is playing delayed catch-up with a huge trend...which I suspect bugs a lot of California polits no end.

mastergunner
July 17, 2014, 01:28 AM
Yep mostly ARs on my range in central Tx. most are in .556 but a good number of .308. They look at me a little strange, still shooting my .222 Anschutz.

Frostbite
July 18, 2014, 03:33 PM
Up here, ARs are marginal and still frowned upon by some. Out of twenty to thirty shooters on the line, we might see one or two ARs sometimes, not all the times. Bolt is king, there is a mix of the other actions, semi possibly being second to bolt. Wood is also still far ahead of synthetic. A little more laminate than in the past, but solid wood is by far dominant. Also, most are older gents shooting old rifles. Young shooters are not numerous. Ladies are formidably rarely seen.

jim243
July 18, 2014, 03:40 PM
In Illinois, my range 90% AR-15 , AR-10 or AK variant.

Jim

JustinJ
July 18, 2014, 04:31 PM
I'd say AR's tend to make up about 60% of rifles i see. AK's maybe 15%, then 22's, then everything else.

Arizona_Mike
July 19, 2014, 03:03 PM
They are totally modular and customizable gadgets. Of course Americans love them! Prfect range guns too being accurate and inexpensive.

I'd love to see one of the 7.62 platforms become standardized as well.

Mike

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