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slschultz
July 16, 2014, 06:47 PM
Anybody here reloading buckshot I need loads that are about 1300fps.

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Gadawg88
July 16, 2014, 07:27 PM
What components do you have access to if any. Powder is hard to come by as you may know.

ArchAngelCD
July 16, 2014, 07:42 PM
Anybody here reloading buckshot I need loads that are about 1300fps.
You don't say which gauge you want to load.
You don't say what size Buckshot you want to load.
You don't say what length case.
Which powder are you using?
Which hulls are you using?

Shotgun load data is a lot more picky than rifle or handgun data. It's generally better to use the same components listed in the load data.

A good source of shotshell load data is the Lyman 5th Edition Shotshell Reloading Handbook. For all Hodgdon/ IMR/ Winchester powders you can check the Hodgdon Load Data site.
http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/shotgun

Be careful, read first and load later.
Welcome to the forum...

gamestalker
July 16, 2014, 08:45 PM
What ArchAngel said ^^^

Welcome to THR

Just as ArchAngel stated, shotgun data / recipe's are very specific to the components and data provided.

So, lets begin with establishing what gauge you are intending to load for.

What hull are you using?

Once we've established those factors, we need to know what powders you have available. Then we can direct you to recipe's that will include the specific components you will need.


GS

slschultz
July 16, 2014, 08:57 PM
12ga 2 3/4 00. I have a bunch of differant hulls. I have Red Dot, U Clays, 800x and a few others. I guess I am concerned about fillers and wads mostly.

ArchAngelCD
July 16, 2014, 09:08 PM
12ga 2 3/4 00. I have a bunch of differant hulls. I have Red Dot, U Clays, 800x and a few others. I guess I am concerned about fillers and wads mostly.
Check the link I provided above since a few of your powders are from Hodgdon.
Of the powders you listed you will probably get the best results with Universal for 00 Buckshot loads but please check the data for yourself and match the components.

slschultz
July 16, 2014, 11:56 PM
Thanks I have used the hogdon site in the past. I am looking at what loaders are using for filler. I would asume that you you don't just drop the buck in and crimp it. Also I would think that some wads might be better with buck than others. These are going to be used in 3 gun when I run out of my factory loads.

ArchAngelCD
July 17, 2014, 12:05 AM
I'm sorry, I'm no expert on Buckshot and wouldn't want to give you bad information.

I do know this book will explain exactly how to do what you want to do.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/887011/lyman-shotshell-reloading-handbook-5th-edition-reloading-manual?cm_vc=ProductFinding

ReloaderFred
July 17, 2014, 01:16 AM
Buy the Lyman Shotshell Loading Manual and follow the recipes exactly. Like you've been told, shotgun reloading is different than metallic reloading. I load for both, and have for quite a number of years. I'll deviate from some metallic reloading data, but not shotgun data.

Shotgun barrels and chambers are thin when compared to rifles and handguns, and the hull won't contain pressure like a shell casing will, which is why the instructions say to follow the recipe when loading for shotguns.

I do load 00 buck loads myself. I don't use filler in them and they group about the same as factory loads with filler. The data came from the aforementioned Lyman manual.

Bottom line is, buy the manual and there are lots of recipes for loading shot, buckshot and slugs. It's much, much better to follow proven data than asking people you don't know for advice.........

Hope this helps.

Fred

slschultz
July 17, 2014, 09:05 AM
I guess my first post came across a little off. I have been reloading for better than 40 years. I reload for 12ga,16ga, 20ga,28ga in lead steel and hevi shot. I reload 3006,308,223 45acp 44mag, 10mm,40,9mm. Till recently have have not needed to reload buck or slugs. I am not looking for data but tips or ideas to make better buck loads.
I have read the lyman manual but some of the information is a little outdated. I thought maybe some new ideas and products have come out since the last edition.
Thanks Schultz

huntsman
July 17, 2014, 11:01 AM
http://www.ballisticproducts.com/Buckshot-Loading-Manual-4th-ed/productinfo/00MBUCK/

this manual addresses buffering and specialty loads

ReloaderFred
July 17, 2014, 12:00 PM
slschultz,

Thanks for clarifying that. Your original post appeared to me to be from someone who has never reloaded, and suddenly found themselves in the position of needing to improvise and didn't want to invest in a manual to do so.

I myself have been reloading for over 51 years, and I still consult the manuals, especially for shotgun reloading, which is not one of my favorite endeavors, but I do it out of necessity. If you're looking for buffering material, since Winchester no longer offers their excellent Super Grex, it's available from several different sources. Precision Reloading seems to have the best price and they claim their shot buffer doesn't have to be vibrated or shaken to fill in around the shot. You might give them a try. These days I reserve my stash of Super Grex for case filling for my .45-120 Sharps smokeless powder loads.

I've loaded quite a bit of 00 Buck, but I cast my own, and like I mentioned above, I don't use buffer in those loads and they group about the same as the Remington and Winchester 00 Buck loads I've patterned.

Hope this helps.

Fred

slschultz
July 17, 2014, 02:07 PM
Fred is there any certain way to stack the pellets. And do you a fold crimp or a rollcrimp with a overshot card.

rodregier
July 17, 2014, 02:57 PM
Precision Reloading sells house-brand buffer (granulated polyethylene).
I've used it, nice product.

http://www.precisionreloading.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PRE&Product_Code=PRPSB22&Category_Code=

The also sell a very light over-shot cover that keeps the buffer from leaking out too.

http://www.precisionreloading.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PRE&Product_Code=PRPTS12&Category_Code=TIGHT_SEAL

It's not considered safe practice to take a "max" sgn recipe and then put buffer into it.

ReloaderFred
July 17, 2014, 03:27 PM
slschultz,

The 00 Buck has to be stacked, 3 to a layer. Only certain wads will work, and they're listed in the Lyman manual. You can get 3 layers in the case, and then I use the regular folded crimp. The recipe I use is specifically for the AA hulls.

Hope this helps.

Fred

PS: I'll be gone until Monday............

RMc
July 28, 2014, 06:27 AM
Here are several pressure tested 8 pellet, 2 pellet per layer stack, buffered 00B loads - scroll down the index to Buckshot:

http://stevespages.com/pdf/imr_reloading.pdf

Hope this helps.

RMc
July 28, 2014, 07:14 PM
A two per layer 00B pellet stack reduces radial compression and resulting pellet deformation in the forcing cone and choke.

VenomBallistics
July 28, 2014, 07:14 PM
Ballistic Products regularly publishes Buckshot loading manuals.
they try harder to be up to date with shotshell loading than anyone

50 Shooter
July 30, 2014, 06:35 AM
Not to thread jack but I have a bag of about 600 00 pellets, if someone needs them for reloading and wants to buy them... Make me a fair offer and they're yours as I'm tired of seeing them laying around collecting dust. PM or ar50shooter@hotmail.com

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