How are your local gun stores doing?


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gspn
July 18, 2014, 11:22 PM
I haven't been to my local gun store in months but after hearing the earnings guidance from S&W earlier this week I got to thinking about them.

It was obvious that the sales boom wouldn't last, but now we have some forecasts from a major manufacturer that things are slowing down. S&W announced that they expect sales to be down 7% in 2015.

The last time I was in my local gun store was maybe three months ago. I stopped by a few times during the panic just to see how big of a circus it really was. Many times there were no parking spots so I didn't even have to go in to see what the crowd was like. Then earlier this year the traffic fell off a cliff. The few times I went in there was nobody in the store. They had racks and racks of guns and employees sitting around with nothing to do but talk about how slow it was.

How are your local gun stores doing? Do you think they'll all survive the slump that comes after the binge we saw over the past few years?

I think the big store in my town will do fine…but some of the smaller guys that got in during the boom…not so sure about them.

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RetiredUSNChief
July 18, 2014, 11:27 PM
Well, we just had one open up a year or so ago, and they seem to be doing quite well.

Well enough, in fact, that whenever they get my next gun in they will have collected around $2,500 from me in guns, ammunition, and target shooting.

:):)

Outlaw Man
July 18, 2014, 11:28 PM
I sure hope so!

It seems like the big chains are suffering more than the mom and pops around here.

gspn
July 18, 2014, 11:29 PM
Well enough, in fact, that whenever they get my next gun in they will have collected around $2,500 from me in guns, ammunition, and target shooting.

:):)

Now you've got my interest…what's the gun? You can't leave me hanging like this…the suspense…it's too much!

zerobarrier
July 18, 2014, 11:35 PM
My LGS keeps expanding, so I hope they do well. Just got there class 3 too.

RetiredUSNChief
July 18, 2014, 11:58 PM
Now you've got my interest…what's the gun? You can't leave me hanging like this…the suspense…it's too much!

Two guns, so far. I'm waiting on the second...it may be a while yet on that one.

The first was a Walther PPK/S for my wife. This next one is for me.

Well, just to be honest here, very likely the next one after that will be for me, too...

:)

I don't really want to break the suspense until I get it, though. Trust me...I'll post pics of my childhood dream gun when I get it.

sauer1911
July 19, 2014, 12:05 AM
Just remember the ones who gouged or tried to gouge during the past 18 months. I do, and stay away from them.

Overall I think LGshops are suffering a little bit, and hopefully the greedy ones will pay the price.

be safe

MICHAEL T
July 19, 2014, 12:12 AM
My dealer doing fine He always has had good prices and did jump them doing the Rush. Now a different dealer in another town not doing the best Of course he has some used guns listed at more than they cost new.

351 WINCHESTER
July 19, 2014, 01:40 AM
My lgs is not doing good at all. Sad, but they just cannot compete with the big dogs.

RustyShackelford
July 19, 2014, 01:58 AM
I went by a local Walmart & did the "Walmart walk" :D .
The sporting goods section had plenty of rifle & shotgun loads but was out of .22LR, 9x19mm & .40S&W. :rolleyes:
The older Walmart employee was a bit of a annoyed by having to explain that too. :mad:
I went by a big Bass Pro Shop too. I got a great Plano, lockable case on sale($7.99) & saw they had plenty of hunting rifle calibers, shotgun shells, handguns, and related accessories. :D
The mark up on the firearms was high but that's common for larger retailers like Bass Pro Shop & Gander Mountain.
They cater to the YUPPIES, new shooters/gun owners & those who are swayed by the "down home", hunting cabin motif. :rolleyes:

Twiki357
July 19, 2014, 02:44 AM
I have two gun shops and two pawn shops within a mile of my house. :evil: I would like to think that they are doing okay. :scrutiny: One LGS I’m pretty sure is doing just fine. :D I think I’ve bought 3 or 4 guns there in the last few years, and a lot of ammo and accessories and supplies. The other, I’m not too sure. It’s on it’s third owner in about the last 7 years and I think the training classes and indoor range are the only things keeping it afloat. :eek: I go to the range a lot, but have only bought one gun and very little else. One of the pawn shops isn’t worth the trouble to walk through the door, but I just bought my 7th gun in two years from the other one. :D It’s almost transformed from a pawn shop to a gun shop that also handles pawn (And no, not porn.)

rwehnau
July 19, 2014, 07:05 AM
If they could just get and keep the popular rounds in stock, before the price gougers snatch them all up for ridiculous resale prices.

kcofohio
July 19, 2014, 09:54 AM
We have only one LGS in this town. I think they're hanging in there.
One of the co-owners told me the problem they have is that their main distributer's agent got moved, so they got put on another agents' list. That put them at a lower pecking order. So by the time the agent gets to them, they are out of the good stuff. They have to resort to haggling with other shops if you need something. It took them six weeks to get me some common magazines.

The thing that keeps them floating is CCW classes, remanufactured ammo, and hunting trips they line up.

AlexanderA
July 19, 2014, 09:54 AM
I haven't been to my local gun store in months

Same here. That, in a nutshell, is why some local gun shops are having trouble. They can't keep enough of a selection in stock, at reasonable prices, to attract the serious gun buyers. I do my buying at large gun shows, or through GunBroker with delivery through the local FFL. I never seem to find anything I'm looking for in the inventory of the LGS.

The LGS cannot simply sit on its hands and expect to make a lot of sales from inventory, at the store. It needs to exhibit at gun shows, and do transfers for a reasonable fee.

Captcurt
July 19, 2014, 10:01 AM
We have a little town of around 15000. There are four gun shops, a Walmart, a Grocery store with a Sporting Good section, and six or seven Pawn Shops. Two of the GS's and one PS are doing great. They have good selections, great service and don't gouge. The others are probably on their way out. I don't know about the grocery store sales because buying guns in a grocery store goes against the grain.

I DON'T SHOP AT WALMART.:fire::cuss:

MAKster
July 19, 2014, 10:06 AM
Gun stores sold about 4 years worth of guns and ammo in six months. Anyone who was ever thinking of buying a gun bought it during the 2013 panic. Only the gun collectors who hang out on forums like this are still buying now. It will take a long time for demand from casual gun owners to build up again.

natman
July 19, 2014, 11:01 AM
The sporting goods section had plenty of rifle & shotgun loads but was out of .22LR, 9x19mm & .40S&W. :rolleyes:
The older Walmart employee was a bit of a annoyed by having to explain that too. :mad:


For the 48th time. That day. ;)

RetiredUSNChief
July 19, 2014, 12:14 PM
Just remember the ones who gouged or tried to gouge during the past 18 months. I do, and stay away from them.

Overall I think LGshops are suffering a little bit, and hopefully the greedy ones will pay the price.

be safe

This is a new LGS. I expect LGS prices to be somewhat higher than large retail outlets. However, getting a rock-bottom price on a gun isn't always what I'm after. I pay a premium price on occasion when I think the result is worth it.

I do my shopping, of course, to find out what price ranges to expect from various sources.

:):)

nugun55
July 19, 2014, 02:01 PM
They're much more willing to "deal", right now. Whereas, that wasn't the case 6 mnths, ago.

Captcurt
July 19, 2014, 02:07 PM
I like to do business with someone who will back their product. Like my friend/GS owner/gunsmith tells the customer who brings him a gun to fix bought from Walmart, " You bought it from Walmart, get them to fix it."

silicosys4
July 19, 2014, 04:47 PM
" You bought it from Walmart, get them to fix it."


and this statement likely lost that LGS a customer for life. You don't win customers by belittling them, or "punishing" them for not having shopped with you. You HELP them, and thereby EARN a loyal customer. Customers don't drop out of the sky, and business owners aren't entitled to sales just because they exist as a business.

Back a few years ago when I discovered internet gun auctions, I shopped around a few LGS's to decide who was the best to run transfers through.

One guy acted like it was a travesty that I was buying online instead of purchasing his $700 glocks. I never went back...in fact, the guy was so rude I cancelled the transaction, told him why, and walked out.

Another guy, retired LE charged an extra $40 for his own additional "background check" in which he ran your DL through his old LE friends back at the station. This was on top of the transfer fee of $50. That guy isn't even in business anymore, I don't think he did a repeat sale in his short career as an FFL.

The next guy was nice enough, but charged $50 for transfers. Again, I never went back.

My "go-to" shop is owned by a nice older woman, and she was very willing to take transfers and has not once said a harsh word about doing them.
Since then, I have done app. 30 transfers through her at $30 each. You do the math....that's $900 of pure profit that didn't require a lick of effort on their part to pursue, and no inventory to stock or maintain.
More often than not I have also purchased goods while I was doing the transfer. Hell, She's so smart she will read the invoice she gets, and order an extra mag or two so that when I come in to pick up the gun, she has a few mags to sell me at the same time!
I have also purchased guns from them that I saw in their case while doing the transfer, and walked out with more than one gun....she has paid attention to what I order in, she knows I like revolvers, so she will call me when they get a nice revolver in on consignment.
I have sold guns on consignment there, and done well, and their consignment fee is reasonable, and they have a lot of traffic because it is a popular shop.
Its a popular shop because she runs it like a real business owner and not some grumpy hobbyist who thinks they should be showered with business and money because "they aint no gubment corpration"

That's how you run a business. Not by browbeating, punishing, or cowing the consumer into meekly accepting your overpriced goods.

LGS's seem to have more than their fair share of antisocial, arrogant, clueless owners who end up being their own worst enemy.

Buck Elkhorn
July 19, 2014, 06:07 PM
Around here the ones that seem to still be doing ok are the ones that did not start gouging on prices in the first place. The ones that did are paying for it now by the buyers going other places.

km101
July 19, 2014, 06:23 PM
They are not doing well at all. Competition from the big box stores (Bass Pro, Cabela's, Gander Mountain, Academy, etc.) has run most of them out of business. The good old days of a LGS where you knew the owner and/or gunsmith seem to be over here in the N. Texas area. There are several FFL who will order guns on request, but only one actual gun shop left in this area and he no longer has a gunsmith on site and he is looking to sell.

P5 Guy
July 19, 2014, 07:34 PM
Wain Roberts closed after 40 some years due to lack of product and business.

RustyShackelford
July 19, 2014, 08:29 PM
I think the older Walmarter was using profiling. ;)
He(and other Walmart staff in hunting-sporting goods) may field the same questions all day long. ;)

The Yankee Marshal on Youtube.com did a brief clip asking gun owners/2A supporters to shop at the local small business/brick & mortar locations. :rolleyes:
He stated(which I agree) that most profits/sales come from accessories & ammo not firearm sales.
This might be true, but Im not going to patronize a gun shop or any business that has high mark-up or poor customer service.
If a gun shop goes under it's not my fault or my $$$ that did it.
Bigger retailers like Dick's, Bass Pro Shop, Cabelas, etc can absorb the losses & spread it out. Some small shops can't.
The small gun shops may or may not get distributors either. This is not my problem. My job(as a paying customer) is to buy products/merchandise & get good support/service. That's it.
I don't walk into a failing business, jump the counter & start acting like James T Kirk. :D

celem
July 19, 2014, 08:42 PM
My small town of 7,000 in Western North Carolina has two gun stores. One affiliated with an indoor range that sells high-end firearms and another that sells mainstream firearms. They both are doing well.

Nanook
July 19, 2014, 10:38 PM
The one I patronize most has been doing really well. He does slow down every summer he says, so he expected that.

He did really well during the insanity too. He also sells on Gunbroker, so he's covered no matter which way the wind blows.

He does transfers for a reasonable price, sells on consignment if you like, and will list for anybody who doesn't want to list themselves on Gunbroker.

Red Wind
July 20, 2014, 01:19 PM
My LGS in Key Largo, Kiffney's Firearms, has quadrupled in size since I started patronizing them in 2001. They have gobbled up most of the strip mall at Mile Marker 106 on the Overseas Highway..

Business is down a bit the last 6 months but they are still doing well. They also have the big advantage of not having a serious competitor for almost 30 miles in any direction, being isolated on US 1.

They provide fine service and have very competitive prices and low transfer fees.

Sauer Grapes
July 20, 2014, 08:23 PM
We had a 10yr run where all the long time LGS's closed up. I know one other that is getting ready to retire and move south. Whether the store gets bought or just closes is unclear.

We had a new one open about 4 years ago. They cast pistol bullets and sell reloading supplies along with ammo and firearms. They are doing well. I finally bought a handgun from them, even though I probably could have saved some bucks online.

Their prices on accessories and bullets and powder are in line with other shops. They also had the good sense NOT to up prices during the shortage.

Stevejp
July 20, 2014, 08:43 PM
Hello, I'm a long time lurker of this forum and decided to join. I live by Toledo, so a local gun dealer doesn't really exists here. Just Bass Pro and Gander mountain. But there is a guy 130miles south of me who just opened a shop and he's doing very well. (Don't want to sound like a noob) he just got the license that allows him to sell suppressors, automatics and all the "more fun stuff".

Red Wind
July 20, 2014, 10:20 PM
Welcome to THR, Steve! I hope you enjoy your stay. :)

BootBuckle
July 20, 2014, 10:37 PM
I have 4 local gun shops--3 north of Baltimore, and 1 south of Baltimore. 1 of those north of the city just went under, another north of the city is going under in early August (says the owner). These are the only 2 of the 4 that don't offer other services. The 3rd "north" store is also an indoor range w/ rentals, and they seem to be doing fine. The "south" store offers many courses, such as the Maryland HQL, the Utah permit, NRA courses, etc., and they are doing better than fine.

kcofohio
July 20, 2014, 11:06 PM
Welcome to THR, Steve! I live about 40 miles south of you. You have Clelands in Swanton on Airport Hwy. I don't think the ones around here advertise much. Maybe that is why you haven't heard of them. :)

http://www.clelands.com/

thefamcnaj
July 21, 2014, 01:15 AM
Palmettostate armory opened up a retail spot in upstate South Carolina. Then cabellas opened up across the street from them. Psa handgun prices are unbelievably low, and cabellas brings in all the local hunters. Local gun shops are, now closing around here.
One lgs less than a mile from me just closed down. The next closest gunshot is pricing itself right out of business.
Lastly was my local pawn shop. They had great deals until a big corporate group bought them. Their guns now have silly prices on them. Used glock 19 gen 3 is now 505$
Psa has them nib for 499$. Mom n pop shops just can't compete anymore.
Academy hurts them as well when they run sales on certain models.
I can't justify paying mom n pop prices around here anymore.
I wanted to keep buying local but my wallet tells me I need to get the: ammo, accessories, guns etc, where it's cheapest.

Reloadron
July 21, 2014, 01:55 AM
When I had my shop the money wasn't in new guns, today with the addition of the Internet I can't see it as having changed. The money was in used guns. If I could snag an occasional estate and snag maybe 20 or 30 guns in a single buy that is where the money was. So it really mattered not what the S&W, Ruger, Remington, Glock, Sig or any other manufacturers forecast looked like. Even with that said guns alone do not a gun shop make. I had a good niche with reloading supplies and carried a wide range of reloading components and equipment, that helped pay the bills and overhead.

Anyway, in my opinion when manufacturers of guns come out with a weak forecast I don't see it as having much effect on a small, well run and established gun shop. Just my take based on my own personal experiences.

Ron

Willie Sutton
July 21, 2014, 01:56 AM
My local one is doing great. Large selection, great range, always has .22 for range clients, fair prices, cheerful transfers, friendly counter guys, and is always busy but not "too busy". Many suppressors in stock, and a great place to visit weekly.


Willie

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TRX
July 22, 2014, 07:19 AM
Back a few years ago when I discovered internet gun auctions, I shopped around a few LGS's to decide who was the best to run transfers through.

Gunbroker has a nice little search page to find FFLs in your area who are willing to do transfers. They list them by location and price.

There's an FFL in the next town to me who'll do an transfer for $8. It gets customers into his store, where he has a chance to sell them accessories and ammunition.

Captcurt
July 22, 2014, 09:56 AM
When I had my shop the money wasn't in new guns, today with the addition of the Internet I can't see it as having changed. The money was in used guns. If I could snag an occasional estate and snag maybe 20 or 30 guns in a single buy that is where the money was. So it really mattered not what the S&W, Ruger, Remington, Glock, Sig or any other manufacturers forecast looked like. Even with that said guns alone do not a gun shop make. I had a good niche with reloading supplies and carried a wide range of reloading components and equipment, that helped pay the bills and overhead.

Anyway, in my opinion when manufacturers of guns come out with a weak forecast I don't see it as having much effect on a small, well run and established gun shop. Just my take based on my own personal experiences.

Ron
Got to agree with you 100% The price of guns online make it really difficult to make anything on new guns. You are lucky to make 10%, especially if you are small and don't have good sale reps. Accessories, reloading supplies, and used guns.are your bread and butter. There are 3 good shops here and I leave the local sales to them. I try to find good quality used guns and put them online or hit a couple of local gunshows.

To tell the truth, the gunshows are really a waste of time. The new generation will look at your price, pull out their phone and compare your price to one on GunBroker or Bud's. They don't take in to account the extra fees like shipping and dealer transfer fees.

zdc1775
July 22, 2014, 01:14 PM
Well I recently had an employee of the LGS start working for me part-time, and he was telling me and a few co-workers that sales over the last 18 months had averaged 1 million a month so I guess you could say that store is doing fine. Others around here don't move quite the inventory he does but none of them are hurting from the looks of it, and price wise they are usually better than online. I was just able to buy a S&W M&P 9mm for $399+tax. Bud's has the same one (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_39_1807/products_id/57858/S%26W+M%26P9+17%2B1+9mm+4.25%22) listed at $441. In fact the three bigger ones have all expanded, moved to bigger locations, or in the biggest one's case are opening up an additional store.

1John1:9
July 22, 2014, 09:19 PM
I have so many pawn shop / gun shops near me, that I really couldn't begin to name them all. They all tend to stock about 30 to 60 handguns. There is one Gander Mountain in town. There are 2 places in town that are large dedicated gun shops. There are a few small dedicated gun shops. Two of them sell reloading supplies.

I think they are all doing well, but I'm not privy to their books.

Kind of off subject, but I am gaining a new appreciation for the used gun market. It is really fun to find good values.

loose noose
July 22, 2014, 09:47 PM
Here in southern Nevada, there are a lot of gun stores, not to mention right across the river in Arizona. That's how come I have dual citizenship, ya never know when a gun is going to just beg me to take him/her: home, and who am I to refuse. :D

Baron66
July 24, 2014, 05:21 AM
I have to say that I have no sympathy for any gun stores that go out of business because the market slowed down. They made plenty of money off of us the last few years and if they didn't save it then it's their own fault.

jrhyne
July 25, 2014, 05:59 PM
The one that I frequent has moved to larger locations or expanded on-site 3 times in the last 5 years. They're doing pretty well.

herkyguy
July 25, 2014, 08:42 PM
I'd have to agree that mine are doing pretty well also. Little to no sympathy though for the market slowing down, if it is. They made their money and a good deal of it from me.

Stevejp
July 26, 2014, 11:30 AM
Thanks for the welcome. Clelands is a nice shop. They burned down a few years ago (day before I was going to buy a SPAS 12 that I had been saving a lot for). Their new building is nicer, but it seems like their smiths are never there.

UpperAtmosphere
July 27, 2014, 01:44 PM
The one I visit is doing okay, but I don't buy much from them as they don't have a large selection and I usually have a pretty good idea of what's next on the acquisition list.

SC Shooter
July 27, 2014, 02:00 PM
In my area, the ones that are well funded are doing OK, but the competition has become fierce. Seems like these days, there's a LGS on every corner. The demand is still good, but we may be suffering from over supply.

Agsalaska
July 27, 2014, 03:35 PM
Got to agree with you 100% The price of guns online make it really difficult to make anything on new guns. You are lucky to make 10%, especially if you are small and don't have good sale reps. Accessories, reloading supplies, and used guns.are your bread and butter. There are 3 good shops here and I leave the local sales to them. I try to find good quality used guns and put them online or hit a couple of local gunshows.

To tell the truth, the gunshows are really a waste of time. The new generation will look at your price, pull out their phone and compare your price to one on GunBroker or Bud's. They don't take in to account the extra fees like shipping and dealer transfer fees.
Of course they consider those costs. They are not stupid.

Agsalaska
July 27, 2014, 03:42 PM
I only go into two here in DFW because they are the only two that have any idea how to treat customers. Both are doing very well. They also understand how to make a profit, two traits often missing in this industry.

Any gun shop with a decent population around it that understands how to treat people and can change business with market trends they should be very profitable right now.

dirtyjim
August 10, 2014, 09:49 AM
couldn't say how the lgs's are doing cause I don't buy generic off the shelf guns and they don't like doing transfers. ammo comes ups, guns get shipped to a pawn shop across town, i probably drive past 20 gunshops to get there.
the last time i picked up a rifle from the lgs, a rifle that they do not stock, their distributors do not stock and they didn't want to look for, i passed on a used pre64 Winchester simply because of their updated transfer policy basically stated that if your doing a transfer your cheap scum and we don't want your buisuness

berettaprofessor
August 10, 2014, 01:59 PM
Gun stores in my area all seem to be surviving, but most complain about the difficulty of getting new guns in and the lack of ammo to sell. One told me yesterday that they have sold 3 guns for everyone that's been delivered and most guns are on backorder.

Another told me that two different people had offered to buy every firearm and bit of ammo in the store as a lump sum....one of them with a wad of cash in hand. The owner declined because he didn't want to go out of business or have nothing to show customers for awhile. I told him he should have stated a price that would have allowed him to double his money on investments and got out.

TMCCOY
August 10, 2014, 02:19 PM
Sportsman's warehouse and a few local larger privately owned shops that continued operations through the last rush the same as always are doing well around here. A number of smaller outfits have opened but their lack of investment doesn't bode well trying to compete. The gun shows are no longer a source of much value with the exception of bulk ammo, some accessories, and maybe beef jerky.

Potatohead
August 10, 2014, 02:30 PM
and this statement likely lost that LGS a customer for life. You don't win customers by belittling them, or "punishing" them for not having shopped with you. You HELP them, and thereby EARN a loyal customer. Customers don't drop out of the sky, and business owners aren't entitled to sales just because they exist as a business.

Back a few years ago when I discovered internet gun auctions, I shopped around a few LGS's to decide who was the best to run transfers through.

One guy acted like it was a travesty that I was buying online instead of purchasing his $700 glocks. I never went back...in fact, the guy was so rude I cancelled the transaction, told him why, and walked out.

Another guy, retired LE charged an extra $40 for his own additional "background check" in which he ran your DL through his old LE friends back at the station. This was on top of the transfer fee of $50. That guy isn't even in business anymore, I don't think he did a repeat sale in his short career as an FFL.

The next guy was nice enough, but charged $50 for transfers. Again, I never went back.

My "go-to" shop is owned by a nice older woman, and she was very willing to take transfers and has not once said a harsh word about doing them.
Since then, I have done app. 30 transfers through her at $30 each. You do the math....that's $900 of pure profit that didn't require a lick of effort on their part to pursue, and no inventory to stock or maintain.
More often than not I have also purchased goods while I was doing the transfer. Hell, She's so smart she will read the invoice she gets, and order an extra mag or two so that when I come in to pick up the gun, she has a few mags to sell me at the same time!
I have also purchased guns from them that I saw in their case while doing the transfer, and walked out with more than one gun....she has paid attention to what I order in, she knows I like revolvers, so she will call me when they get a nice revolver in on consignment.
I have sold guns on consignment there, and done well, and their consignment fee is reasonable, and they have a lot of traffic because it is a popular shop.
Its a popular shop because she runs it like a real business owner and not some grumpy hobbyist who thinks they should be showered with business and money because "they aint no gubment corpration"

That's how you run a business. Not by browbeating, punishing, or cowing the consumer into meekly accepting your overpriced goods.

LGS's seem to have more than their fair share of antisocial, arrogant, clueless owners who end up being their own worst enemy.
Good post Sili.

docsleepy
August 10, 2014, 03:31 PM
We had several new ones spring up for a while, but the smaller shops seem to have gone under currently. A smaller shop where I bought a good rifle is gone now. The 3 long-term stores in town are still in business. I think we had a miniboom, and it isn't sustainable.

Deltaboy
August 11, 2014, 12:54 AM
Gun stores in my area all seem to be surviving, but most complain about the difficulty of getting new guns in and the lack of ammo to sell. One told me yesterday that they have sold 3 guns for everyone that's been delivered and most guns are on backorder.

Another told me that two different people had offered to buy every firearm and bit of ammo in the store as a lump sum....one of them with a wad of cash in hand. The owner declined because he didn't want to go out of business or have nothing to show customers for awhile. I told him he should have stated a price that would have allowed him to double his money on investments and got out.
Same at mine the owner aggravated about delays and backorders.

460Kodiak
August 11, 2014, 12:33 PM
Another told me that two different people had offered to buy every firearm and bit of ammo in the store as a lump sum....one of them with a wad of cash in hand.

Doesn't that sound like a scam? As in fake money? I don't know. It just sounds fishy.

The LGS's in my area are doing great as far as I know. Yep, complaints about lack of ammo are the main complaint.

JTHunter
August 11, 2014, 04:56 PM
One LGS today had Rem. 500 rd. bricks of Subsonic but at a price I refuse to pay. :eek:
They were asking $43/brick!! (That's 8.6/rd.!) :barf:

They seemed to have a fair amount of handgun ammo (.380, 9mm, .38/357, .40, .45) and a goodly amount of .223/5.56 and at more reasonable prices than the .22s.

Sav .250
August 11, 2014, 05:18 PM
The local Gander Mountain has a ton of weapons..................and plenty of parking.

Would like to comment on there Archery dept but that wasn`t part of the question. :mad:

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