I put a Beretta Jaguar on layaway.


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Orion8472
July 24, 2014, 10:42 AM
Yep, I found a Beretta Jaguar at a local gunshop and put it on layaway after looking it over. Now, of course, I can't truly know it's mechanical status until I get it out and take it to the range, but it seems to be good to go. Not at all prestine. Has some few chips out of the black on the aluminum frame, and on the front part of the handguard, looks like the black was worn down.

The barrel is the LONG one, but looked pretty good down the bore. Action seemed to be smooth and pretty easy to operate. Grips are the brown plastic. Safety is the "cross bar" type. Metal has some bluing worn on it, but it doesn't seem to have any noticeable dings or scratches. Trigger is very nice feeling!

Only issue thus far is that someone messed up the magazine follower and now it won't hold open with the magazine empty and inserted. I might be able to put a fix on that myself.

I really like how it breaks down. Very simple and rather like a centerfire pistol. Most 22lr pistols I know have fixed [into the frame] barrels. The gun feels good in the hand. Glad to have it in layaway. Not sure if I got it for a good price or not [$360], but because I rarely see them, I'm good with that.

Will post pics whenever I pay it off.

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Mike OTDP
July 24, 2014, 10:46 AM
That's not a bad price these days. The Berettas are undervalued, compared to the Walther PP series guns in .22LR.

usp9
July 24, 2014, 10:58 AM
That's a good price. I paid more for my 70s a while back and was happy to find the gun and pay that amount. Harder and harder to find. Speaking of hard to find... mags are scarce. I had to buy a couple extras from a company in Italy, (thank you internet inventer Al Gore). If you are inclined to do so; you may be able to find the short barrel.

These are really nice 22s. Fun and reliable. Sights are tiny, but at least the gun points well. Enjoy your new Beretta.

I wish I could find the flat grip panel sans the thumb rest. Here's my baby

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/ripley16/Pistols/Beretta/Beretta70s060_zps5de1842c.jpg (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/ripley16/media/Pistols/Beretta/Beretta70s060_zps5de1842c.jpg.html)

Orion8472
July 24, 2014, 11:37 AM
Nice, ups9!! Yours is in nice shape! Is your slide easy to manipulate?

Oh, forgot to add that they did research on it [with a Beretta guy] and figured it to be made in the mid 60's.

I did a search on gunbroker for magazines and the only one listed was a 15 rounder, but not sure I'm interested in that type of magazine. I'd like to find one more, though, having an unmolested magazine follower. I'd also like to find a short barrel to switch out from time to time. But I like the . . . . . quirkiness . . . . of the extra long barrel. :-)

But I really like the design of these guns. Very sleek!

jonnyc
July 24, 2014, 11:45 AM
I took a look at that 15 rnd. mag and it just doesn't look right. Keep your eyes open and you can find mags in the $40-50 range. The short barrel will probably run you between $100-150.

bannockburn
July 24, 2014, 11:58 AM
usp9

Check Midway for flat grips from Vintage Gun Grips for $23.95.

Orion8472

Even though the one you put on layaway may be a little worse for wear cosmetically speaking, I have found most similar Beretta models check out fine mechanically, are well built, and are very reliable. Another member on here, (I think it was Dave Markowitz), had a thread not too long ago on possible alternative mags that would work in the Beretta .22s.

Orion8472
July 24, 2014, 12:21 PM
bannockburn, I will give it a shot searching for that thread. Thanks!

I certainly hope the gun I'm buying will be as reliable as you suggest. It will be an alternative to shooting my only other semi-auto 22lr pistol, my custom Ruger Mark II. The Beretta is far . . . FAR . . . more easy to take down for cleaning!!!

I may consider having my gunsmith friend re-finish the frame, and then have the metal reblued, . . . but I'm uncertain whether I'll do that.

bannockburn
July 24, 2014, 12:47 PM
I have the more compact Model 70S and it was been extremely reliable with just about every different brand of rimfire ammo I have used in it. And while it would not be thought of as a target pistol, with the right ammo, it does just fine in terms of accuracy as well. The only thing I had done to my gun was I had it hard chrome plated by Ron Mahovsky at Metalife. Incredibly tough finish with virtually no signs of wear to it.

Dave Markowitz
July 24, 2014, 01:03 PM
Very cool, OP. I got a Beretta Model 71 Jaguar a little while ago and it's become one of my favorite pistols.

Original mags are unobtanium. I bought a Bersa 644 mag off eBay and it works in my gun with no modifications.

Orion8472
July 24, 2014, 02:27 PM
Dave, thanks for the tip! I'll attempt to find one of those! :)

Orion8472
July 24, 2014, 04:28 PM
Found a Bersa 644 magazine. Thanks again for the info, Dave! :)

aarondhgraham
July 24, 2014, 05:23 PM
Oh man,,,

Dem Eye-Tallyun folks sure knew how to make sexy pistols.

When you shoot that,,,
You should be wearing a tuxedo. ;)

Color me envious.

Aarond

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bannockburn
July 25, 2014, 07:53 AM
This was my solution to having an extra mag for my Model 70S. The longer mag came from a Model 101 and I added the plastic filler piece from another Beretta mag that was for a .32 target gun. Looks okay, works fine, and gives me a couple more rounds versus the original mag.
http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z334/TailoAltera/001_zps5e6e1bae.jpg (http://s1184.photobucket.com/user/TailoAltera/media/001_zps5e6e1bae.jpg.html)
http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z334/TailoAltera/002_zps82608ed0.jpg (http://s1184.photobucket.com/user/TailoAltera/media/002_zps82608ed0.jpg.html)

Orion8472
July 25, 2014, 10:23 AM
Looks like it works well. Doesn't stick down too far either. Oh, and nice looking gun!

I ended up getting two of the Bersa 644 magazines. Now, I have only to wait until I get it out of layaway. :D

I'm thinking probably about a month or two. Or use money from savings and get it tomorrow! :evil:

bannockburn
July 25, 2014, 10:47 AM
Orion8472

Thanks, that hard chrome finish really looks great and protects like a suit of armor. I had some problems with the original blued finish and Beretta acknowledged that this was a problem with some of them. So they reblued it under warranty but within a short while the problem reoccurred. I looked at the cost of getting the gun reblued again when I came across an article in one of my gun magazines about Metalife. At the time it was actually cheaper to get it hard chromed than to have it reblued. So I sent it off to Ron Mahovsky and have been extremely pleased with it ever since.

Orion8472
July 25, 2014, 11:34 AM
I'm going to assume that there aren't other colors he does. I like the idea of a "suit of armour", though.

jonnyc
July 25, 2014, 12:29 PM
Not all Bersa 644 mags work in all Beretta 71s. Be prepared to do a bit of sanding and/or fiddling. I have two 644 mags that I use at the range for my 4 Model 71s. Some fit better than others, and they only seem to feed 100% with 9 rounds loaded.

Orion8472
July 25, 2014, 12:53 PM
Oh. . . . great. Well, thanks for the headsup.

amd6547
July 25, 2014, 05:19 PM
The two Bersa mags I tried in my 71 had the mag catch slot a bit too high. I had to push them up to get any function.
I ordered two Beretta mags from Brignoli in Italy. With these, function is perfect in all respects. The 71 is one of the best 22 pistols of all time, and one of the few with a combat pedigree.
I shot it again last week...it was making hits at ranges most wouldn't consider.
Mine has the six inch barrel. While I would like to have the short barrel, the longer barrel shoots great, adds velocity, and the whole pistol is still pretty compact.

Orion8472
July 25, 2014, 05:47 PM
Looks like the magazines I'm getting will take some fitting then. I was going to get two of them, but will just get one [per the auction I won].

CornCod
July 26, 2014, 09:52 AM
Man, those Italians make pretty guns. They never leave their esthetic principals behind.

brentb636
July 30, 2014, 08:35 PM
The 70 Series Beretta's are the sexiest pistols alive, I think. :) Two of my '71's came from SOG, $299 each with faux suppressors attached. Taking the suppressors off was nerve-wracking , but the pistols are great !

http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/o700/brentb636/Beretta%2070%20Series/DSCN2055001_zps74c5d415.jpg~original (http://s1338.photobucket.com/user/brentb636/media/Beretta%2070%20Series/DSCN2055001_zps74c5d415.jpg.html)

Orion8472
July 30, 2014, 11:35 PM
^ Dang, son! :eek:

Gordon
July 31, 2014, 03:06 AM
Are they all .22?

bannockburn
July 31, 2014, 07:44 AM
brentb636

So that's were all the Model 70s have been hiding! Very nice collection you have there.

jonnyc
July 31, 2014, 04:35 PM
Brent, you are such a show-off! ;)

Gotta love those little .22s!

Orion8472
August 15, 2014, 12:20 PM
Well, I took the Bersa 644 mag to my gunstore to see if it would work in my layaway Jaguar. It was a bit stiff going in, but locked in place and allowed the slide to lock open. So, aside for getting it in and out, I think it may work. And 10 rounds on top of that. I'll know for sure after I get it out and take it to the range. Another 6 payments of $50.

nickebe
August 19, 2014, 01:06 PM
aNYONE know where you can get a rear sight for the beretta 71?

Orion8472
August 31, 2014, 01:12 AM
I got the Jaguar out of layaway earlier this week. Took it to the range today. It ran flawlessly and was quite exceptional in the accuracy department! I'll post some pics as soon as I can. But all in all, it was a great find! :D

Orion8472
August 31, 2014, 12:03 PM
Here are a couple of pics. Not the best in the world, but hopefully I can get better ones soon.

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr220/DaveCustomMade/IMG_6661.jpg (http://s485.photobucket.com/user/DaveCustomMade/media/IMG_6661.jpg.html)
http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr220/DaveCustomMade/IMG_6660.jpg (http://s485.photobucket.com/user/DaveCustomMade/media/IMG_6660.jpg.html)

shootr
September 2, 2014, 04:20 AM
Nice-looking piece - I'd say ya done real good!

bannockburn
September 2, 2014, 08:56 AM
Orion8472

Looks to be in excellent condition and accurate too! The best of both worlds.

Orion8472
September 2, 2014, 11:12 AM
Unfortunately it actually isn't in excellent shape. It's in GOOD shape, but has some places where the black has come off the aluminum frame and there is some wear on the bluing. But all in all, I'm happy with it. Probably paid a bit more than it's worth, but I'm glad I got it. Again, I'll try to get some better pics of it, . . . hopefully this afternoon. Had the sun shining right on it and that doesn't always make for the best of pics.

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