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trigga
July 24, 2014, 01:35 PM
I'm currently looking for aa2230 which I have loaded in the past but can't find none. A local store has w748, h322, h1000, h414, 8208, and 4064. Which will work best for 223? Thanks.

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moxie
July 24, 2014, 02:02 PM
I would pick the W748. Good stuff.

mdm
July 24, 2014, 02:04 PM
I've done well with the 8208 XBR.

Spade5
July 24, 2014, 02:05 PM
I wish I could find some of this. I had good luck in the past. I am not saying it is the best but it worked for me.

ironworkerwill
July 24, 2014, 02:05 PM
All will work at some capacity except H1000. www.hodgdonreloading.com < look here to see

Potatohead
July 24, 2014, 02:09 PM
I really like xbr.

RCModel uses W748 so i assume its pretty decent.

Safetychain
July 24, 2014, 02:33 PM
I am using Accurate 2460 for my AR right now. I only used this originally because I had it for my Win 94 30-30. Once I have powder and work up the an accurate load for a particular gun, its hard to start with another powder and work-up again. I'm still in the final stages of homing in on the load for my 223, and I'm doing this for two different 223's. Of course, if I can't get where I want, I may end up having to go to a more 223 friendly type powder. Then I will end up with 8+ lbs of powder for my 30-30 that I'm finding it hard to get reasonably priced projectiles for.

kostner
July 24, 2014, 03:00 PM
Got lucky on a 8 pound jug of INR 3031 and have be very happy with the results. Metering can be problematic with this type of powder. I'm using a Hornady powder measure and it is very accurate. Also found that this web site has good deals on powder www.gunbot.net/reloading/powder/

trigga
July 24, 2014, 03:07 PM
I'm leaning more towards the h322 or w748. I was able to find the h322 at two places and w748 we'll stocked at gander. They didn't have a price at gander but I would assume around mid 20's. I'm using the lee pro disc measure so hoping either would work well with that.

spitballer
July 24, 2014, 03:20 PM
I prefer the 8028 because it's a stick powder and because it seems to work a little better with the heavier 60-65gr bullets which I shoot on occasion. I still have some W748 but I'm reluctant to use it again until I get some magnum primers because it doesn't seem to be especially clean burning with the CCI400's. Others may disagree with this.

Walkalong
July 24, 2014, 03:37 PM
W-748 or H-335, then H-322. Haven't tried my pound of 8208 yet. Should work fine.

ArchAngelCD
July 24, 2014, 03:40 PM
I'm leaning more towards the h322 or w748. I was able to find the h322 at two places and w748 we'll stocked at gander. They didn't have a price at gander but I would assume around mid 20's. I'm using the lee pro disc measure so hoping either would work well with that.
IMO the best choice from those you listed is W748 followed by H322. I hear IMR 8208 XBR will also work well but i have never used it. I have used W748 with good success and since it's a ball powder it meters extremely well. 8208 XBR is the only one listed by Hodgdon for bullets over 80gr.

alsaqr
July 24, 2014, 04:01 PM
Got lucky on a 8 pound jug of INR 3031 and have be very happy with the results.

Since about 1968 i've been using IMR 3031 almost exclusively in my .223/5.56mm reloads. Way back then i experimented with all the available powders suitable for use in the .223. IMR 3031 won out hands down.

The heaviest bullet i use in the .223 is 55 grains.

ArchAngelCD
July 24, 2014, 06:46 PM
Since about 1968 i've been using IMR 3031 almost exclusively in my .223/5.56mm reloads. Way back then i experimented with all the available powders suitable for use in the .223. IMR 3031 won out hands down.

The heaviest bullet i use in the .223 is 55 grains.
While I respect "If it ain't broke don't fix it" in this environment finding your powder of choice is difficult at best and more so impossible. Being a one trick pony no longer works, I found that to be true first hand. Luckily I like to try a lot of different powders so I have load data for more than 1 powder in any given cartridge.

IMR3031 is a very good powder but in the .223/5.56mm there are a lot of new powders available that will match and possible exceed 3031's performance. H335 is a standby, AA2230 was specifically designed for the .223, CFE223 was also specifically designed around the .223 too. BL-C(2) is a good choice in the .223 as is Benchmark, Varget, the above mentioned IMR 8208 XBR, Power Pro 1200-R, AR-Comp, RL-10x and a few Accurate, Ramshot and VV powders too.

I have first hand load data for at least 4 powders for the .223/5.56mm and data from a friend for 4 more. I never thought I would need to have so many different loads but since 2008 it's been a necessity.

moxie
July 24, 2014, 07:53 PM
Don't forget RE-7. Great for .223 & economical too as it requires a bit less powder to achieve the same velocity.

txwingnut
July 24, 2014, 09:15 PM
I just got some IMR 4064, Ive heard good things about it other than it doesnt meter real well. It seems to be very available right now so Ill work up some loads with it. I really want to use TAC but its hard to find.

edfardos
July 24, 2014, 10:29 PM
Does arcomp work with 55grainers? Specs say only heavier bullets. Its a new powder and my local guy has some.

trigga
July 24, 2014, 10:53 PM
i ended up going to gander for the powder because it was closer. it ended up being $29.99 for a lb. overpriced as usual. Recobs sells them for $21.xx. I bought two because I had a $25 gift card. I went with w748. thanks guys.

dprice3844444
July 24, 2014, 11:01 PM
find out what powder works best in the calibers you have in stock.buy a bunch.less chance in accidently mixing powders

alsaqr
July 24, 2014, 11:15 PM
QUOTE]Being a one trick pony no longer works,[/QUOTE]

Yep, i know there are lots of powders out there: Some are maybe better than IMR 3031. i reload for over 20 rifle calibers and stock too many different powders as it is.

IMR 3031 works for me in the .223/5.56mm. Couple weeks ago i fired five five shot groups at 100 meters from my Remington model 700 varmint gun. Average group measured just less than .50".

i ain't going to change.:D

ArchAngelCD
July 25, 2014, 01:04 AM
Being a one trick pony no longer works,

Yep, I know there are lots of powders out there: Some are maybe better than IMR 3031. i reload for over 20 rifle calibers and stock too many different powders as it is.

IMR 3031 works for me in the .223/5.56mm. Couple weeks ago i fired five five shot groups at 100 meters from my Remington model 700 varmint gun. Average group measured just less than .50".

i ain't going to change.:D
Don't get me wrong, under normal circumstances I would say stay with the one powder you like for that cartridge but because powders are so hard to find I feel the need to have options other than my favorite. Heck, I've been know to buy a different powder for each cartridge I load even though another powder will do almost as well.

For example, I use 4895 for M1 Garand ammo and 4350 for all other 30-06 ammo. Even though 4895 is a very good powder for loading the .308 and I have it for loading Garand 30-06 ammo I buy 4064 for the .308. I even have 3 different powders for loading .223 ammo depending upon which rifle they will be shot in. I get it, I really do but when there is no powder you have to know what powders you can use instead, that's all I was saying...

gahunter12
July 25, 2014, 09:39 AM
Don't get me wrong, under normal circumstances I would say stay with the one powder you like for that cartridge but because powders are so hard to find I feel the need to have options other than my favorite. Heck, I've been know to buy a different powder for each cartridge I load even though another powder will do almost as well.

Exactly. I have always used H335 behind my 55gr FMJ loads, but after seeing the craze early last year I decided to search for other powders. I spent last spring/summer working up loads with AA2230, AA2200, & Benchmark. Now I have 4 powders that work well for me in my ARs. I still prefer H335, but I also have 5lbs each of the others just in case!

alsaqr
July 25, 2014, 10:20 AM
Don't get me wrong, under normal circumstances I would say stay with the one powder you like for that cartridge but because powders are so hard to find I feel the need to have options other than my favorite

i absolutely understand where you're coming from. One must be innovative when powder is hard to come by.

Many reloaders today have little idea how lucky they are to have such a wide variety of powders available. i got into reloading in 1953 after inheriting several guns from an uncle. One of those guns is a model 70 Winchester in .220 Swift. In 1953 there were about two powders that were somewhat suitable for reloading the Swift.

IMR 3031 is also used in my .30-06 and .308 reloads with bullets no heavier than 150 grains. Sometimes use it in .222 Remington and a couple other calibers. Came by a big bunch of powder several years ago when a regional chain store firm went out of business because of Wal Mart competition. There was a pallet of various powders, mostly IMR. i'm 75 years old and will most likely never run out of IMR powder.

Good luck to you and the other reloaders on this board.

Robert
July 25, 2014, 10:49 AM
My rifle, 1:7, loves 4064 and 77gr bullets. 5 shots touching at 100y using sandbags and an ACOG.

spitballer
July 25, 2014, 11:10 AM
Got lucky on a 8 pound jug of INR 3031 and have be very happy with the results. Metering can be problematic with this type of powder. I'm using a Hornady powder measure and it is very accurate. Also found that this web site has good deals on powder www.gunbot.net/reloading/powder/
3031 is my go-to powder for 55gr bullets. The large kernels are a joy to load in small batches on a balance scale. Clean burning, very little muzzle upset.

rodregier
July 25, 2014, 11:42 AM
From the original list I've used W748 and H322 for .223 Rem to good effect.

Potatohead
July 25, 2014, 02:59 PM
i ended up going to gander for the powder because it was closer. it ended up being $29.99 for a lb. overpriced as usual. Recobs sells them for $21.xx. I bought two because I had a $25 gift card. I went with w748. thanks guys.
My Gander never has any powder. I mean, not even a place on a shelf somewhere. Does yours have a good selection? (Relatively speaking of course)

trigga
July 30, 2014, 10:37 PM
i didn't know they carried powder either. I called and asked and they said they did. I couldn't find it until someone pointed it out it was hidden in a cabinet (located back in archery). Some selection on black powder and rifle powder. there were like 7 different rifle powders... their prices are usually more than what I would want to pay for. Recobs Target Shop about 30 mins away sells the same powder for about $22 a pound. Here Gander had it IN STOCK for $30. I still had a $25 gift card left from my birthday back in January. That explains how much I shop there. Their service sucks too. Like they don't want to help you unless you buy something. Good thing Cabelas is coming to town.

horseman1
July 31, 2014, 01:06 AM
I stopped in to Cabelas on the way back from Denver last week. They had probably two dozen 1lb canisters each of of IMR 4064, IMR 3031 and Winchester 748. I bought the 748, since I have never tried it before.

You would think I would have bought the 3031, which I know works well for me in 30-30 and 223. I think I like working up loads more than reloading something that I already know works well for me. This makes no sense, but it is what it is :).

mastergunner
July 31, 2014, 01:52 AM
Not a .223 but for my bench rifle .222 have been using IMR 4198 17g pushing a speer 50gr tnt hp with good groups.

FROGO207
August 1, 2014, 03:10 PM
FWIW I use both H and IMR 4198 as well as Ramshot X-Terminator and Tac for my 223 loads 63 grains or lighter with excellent results. The X-Terminator gives the fastest speeds of the four listed. I tried the 3031 but chose to save it for other loads that it worked better for. The 748 is a good choice as well but for some reason I have none here at the present time.:scrutiny: Probably couldn't find a good enough deal before the panic started.

ironworkerwill
August 1, 2014, 04:05 PM
Ramshot X-Terminator I'll figure out how to turn dog poo to gold before I find any.

J_McLeod
August 5, 2014, 10:11 PM
I've used H322 and Win748 in the .223 to good effect. I've used 8208 in .308 and really liked it, and it should work in .223 as well.

m6tlogistics
August 6, 2014, 12:52 AM
26.0 gr IMR 4895-55 grain bullets

Potatohead
August 6, 2014, 03:43 PM
i didn't know they carried powder either. I called and asked and they said they did. I couldn't find it until someone pointed it out it was hidden in a cabinet (located back in archery). Some selection on black powder and rifle powder. there were like 7 different rifle powders... their prices are usually more than what I would want to pay for. Recobs Target Shop about 30 mins away sells the same powder for about $22 a pound. Here Gander had it IN STOCK for $30. I still had a $25 gift card left from my birthday back in January. That explains how much I shop there. Their service sucks too. Like they don't want to help you unless you buy something. Good thing Cabelas is coming to town.
Yea, theyre a bit pricey. I like to throw em a bone here and there though. Sounds like I might need to ask about powder.

txwingnut
August 6, 2014, 09:15 PM
Cabelas had some CFE 223 so I got a lb of that to add to my inventory. made some test loads to try at the range this week of 4064, varget and cfe 223.

AABEN
August 6, 2014, 09:41 PM
Accurate 2200 is a good also

Speedster00
August 7, 2014, 01:13 AM
4198 here. Been using it a couple years with good success. 19.2 grans out of a 16" AR

Okcafe86
August 8, 2014, 09:58 PM
Ive loaded tons of .223 with w748, pretty good. Ive got some 3031 that works well with my 55 grainers as well.

nix4me
August 8, 2014, 10:36 PM
I've used: AR-Comp, H335, IMR4198, IMR 8208-XBR, TAC, Varget. All of em shot fine.

JO JO
August 10, 2014, 01:24 PM
I started with tac, then 8208 xbr then w748 they all worked well for me lgs seems to
get the w748 in often so I have a few pounds of that now works well and it seems that
there is a good amount of load data using 748, I have read of folks saying that w748 can
be temperature sensitive but I don't load a max charges

AABEN
August 18, 2014, 06:18 PM
Ive loaded tons of .223 with w748, pretty good. Ive got some 3031 that works well with my 55 grainers as well.
Winchester 748 is the best powder on your barrel.

kostner
August 22, 2014, 08:12 PM
Have been using IMR3031 and am pleased with the results. Seems to be a popular choice for 223/556 shooters. Just my .02 cents.;)

Dudedog
August 22, 2014, 11:28 PM
Of the above I have only used XBR8208.
It seemed to work well for me, ther than after I worked up loads and loaded and shot a bunch I was not able to find another pound. Bummer, ordered a couple of lbs of H335.

The 8208 seemed reasonably clean and meteres well through a lee disk measure.

I also have used and liked BLC(2).
Can't say on the H335 yet but it seems popular.

HighExpert
August 23, 2014, 11:21 AM
I have been using AA 2460 with good results.

beefyz
August 23, 2014, 08:19 PM
HE , whats your load ? I've been trying 2460 w/o success. Shoots great @ 24.8/24.9, but will not function the action reliably on a mini 14 with those loads. I'm reluctant to go much higher as 25.2 with a 55 FMJ is about max and at that anyway accuracy is gone.

jkhammer
August 25, 2014, 12:29 AM
I've used a couple of the powders listed. All worked fine. I found that the rounds loaded with H322, the casing were coming out bouncing against the screen and landing on my arm scorching hot! H335 or TAC never felt that hot and these were loaded middle of the road in terms of charges.

RainDodger
August 25, 2014, 12:31 AM
H322 has worked great for me as a backup for H335.

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