any Uberti Colt fans see this?


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BHP FAN
July 27, 2014, 01:09 AM
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/151847/product?cm_mmc=pe_weekly-_-new-_-new_20140726_1-_-Category_3

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BCRider
July 27, 2014, 04:34 AM
Too short and the wrong caliber to stir up my juices.

kBob
July 27, 2014, 08:39 AM
That's a cutie. But if they were selling steam boats for a dime right now all I could do would be run up and down the shore hollering "Ain't that cheap?!?!?"

BTW it looks nice with the 7 & 1/2 inch barrel when you click on that option.

-kBob

Willie Sutton
July 27, 2014, 01:05 PM
Too short and the wrong caliber to stir up my juices.

Actually the graphic photo shows the short BBL onel but there's a click-menu to select the longer barrel and the graphic changes when you select it. So they are offering both lengths and let you see both as they are selected. It's just the default view that shows the short one.

Interesting varient of the Colt for those who differentiate between US and London production of these.


Willie

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whughett
July 27, 2014, 01:08 PM
How does the gated version of the conversion cylinder work. Recoil shield cuts needed to function?

Cooldill
July 27, 2014, 02:27 PM
Is this a historically accurate model? I like the 5" bbl one a great deal!

Willie Sutton
July 27, 2014, 03:00 PM
^^

Google "London Colt" and read a bit. These were licensed production Colts.

Basic difference is no brass grip frame on the Londons, as Iron was used as a substitute.

Seems like the shorter BBL version is not authentic, but others can chime in on that.


Willie

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Cooldill
July 27, 2014, 05:57 PM
I was meaning the shorter barreled model. I am well veresed on the London Colts.

Willie Sutton
July 27, 2014, 06:01 PM
^^

Figured that.

I'm guessing no the bbl length is not historically accurate, and I wouldn't buy one anyhow if it were. But the standard length one looks fine. Not enough difference between it and a brass grip framed one to make me run to my checkbook, but still... it's a nice piece.


Willie

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Cooldill
July 27, 2014, 06:50 PM
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Same. I prefer the brass grip framed model anyhow. Looks good though!

Tommygunn
July 27, 2014, 11:42 PM
How come the photo shows a brass TG & BS --- I thought the London model had steel --or I guess I should say iron TG&BS that were blued.
Were there other differences between the London and our homespun version?

Willie Sutton
July 28, 2014, 12:31 AM
Probably they use one photo for several sub-models.

Willie

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JohnnyCremains
July 28, 2014, 08:36 AM
Seems like a good deal for a steel frame.

Dframe
July 28, 2014, 01:48 PM
Looks like a very nice revolver. Wouldn't mind owning one myself.

BHP FAN
July 30, 2014, 01:34 AM
ok, this one's a Pietta...http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?367279-WTS-2005-F-FLLI-PIETTA-reproduction-M1851-Colt-Civilian-44-revolver STEEL frame, under $200.00. Not a big Colt guy, myself, but for you pards who are, it might be a pretty good deal.

Willie Sutton
July 30, 2014, 11:32 AM
All of the quality reproductions of Colts use a steel frame. "Colt" copies using brass frames are called "Fantasy-Brassers" and have no place in a collection of reproductions that purport to represent historical models previously produced by Colt. They make OK cheap shooters, but have no historical basis. Pietta is famous for making fantasy revolvers of all sorts.


Insofar as "Historically Accurate Reproductions":

What distinguishes the original London production Colts from the US production Colts (and the replicas representing each) is the difference between using a brass (US) and iron (England) GRIP FRAME. Not the Frame which was never brass. The non-structural Grip Frame is the difference.



$200 for a Pietta? <yawn>...


Willie

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Cooldill
July 30, 2014, 12:06 PM
Yes but the so-called "fantasy brassers" as you put it (first time I've heard the term) make a fun and less expensive way to get people into black powder revolver shooting. That's nothing to complain about methinks. :D

Willie Sutton
July 30, 2014, 12:52 PM
^^

True if you just want to shoot cheap revolvers using reduced loads and know that you will have a finite life expectancy before it's worn out.

Not true for anyone discriminating between the very slight differences between a US made Colt and a British made Colt replica which is what the OP was pointing us towards.


People that buy "London Colt Replicas" as opposed to the "US Colt Replicas" are people that are already generally in an advanced stage of collecting varients of historically accurate replicas. They probably already have multiple examples of other revolvers in their collection. They are generally *way* past buying Fantasy Brassers.


Willie

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Crawdad1
July 30, 2014, 01:23 PM
I'm hoping that this is a sign that Uberti is finally giving us more options for their revolvers. How about a drift adjustable front sight on the 51' Colt????? Some nice mother of pear grips and there you have the 'Wild Bill" special for shooters and collectors alike. No?

mdauben
July 30, 2014, 01:35 PM
I'm hoping that this is a sign that Uberti is finally giving us more options for their revolvers.
AFAIK, both those varients have been available for years. I bought a London model Uberti at least two years ago so I know they've been selling them for at least that long. The London model is a sweet gun, too, very nicely built IMO and a good shooter.

Willie Sutton
July 30, 2014, 01:55 PM
^^ This. It isn't new.

Thus the :confused: when I saw the original posting.


These fly below the radar for most folks as the difference between it and the standard 1860 Army is so slight as to be meaningless to just about everyone.



Willie

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BHP FAN
July 30, 2014, 03:06 PM
I just thought it was a good deal. No one has even looked at my other post, the Pietta one. A Pietta Colt clone lightly used by a re-enactor, no live rounds ever fired from it. Under $200.00. It's on Gun Boards, it's not mine, just trying to do you Colt guys a favor.

Crawdad1
July 30, 2014, 10:05 PM
So, this ain't new and now my hope for a "Wild Bill" special is just a pipe dream? :o

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