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DFisher3112
August 21, 2014, 11:00 PM
For all you that carry IWB, what kind of belt do you use? It seems that many people say that having a good gun belt is necessary when carrying IWB holster. I've looked around at all kinds of belts but wanted to see what or who you all preferred when it came to belts.

Some of the choices I have looked at included Comp-Tac, CrossBreed, and SOE's EDC Belt with Cobra Buckle (HERE) (http://www.originalsoegear.com/products/edc-belt-with-velcro-lining-size-26-to-34)

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Doc7
August 21, 2014, 11:05 PM
I have a Beltman and it is great.

herrwalther
August 21, 2014, 11:29 PM
I recently upgraded my belt from a Gould and Goodrich Security Pro to a Desantis Econobelt. Made a world of difference since I carry full size firearms constantly.

jmorris
August 21, 2014, 11:40 PM
I used these for years.

http://www.thewilderness.com/tactical-belts/original-instructor-belt/

Have been using these for the last 5 years or so. They cost less, used to be a lot less, and are a bit stiffer.

http://ads.midwayusa.com/product/1398715640/uncle-mikes-reinforced-instructor-belt-1-1-2-black-steel-buckle-polymer-reinforced-nylon?cm_vc=ProductFinding

Rat Robb
August 21, 2014, 11:44 PM
I have a Beltman and it is great.
This.

It doesn't matter if its OWB or IWB, you need a quality belt. I would actually say that I benefitted more from my Beltman when I started carrying OWB.

-Robb

Teachu2
August 21, 2014, 11:51 PM
I own a pair of gunbelts from http://www.ferraraleather.com/, a black and a brown. I'd buy another without hesitation.

The Lone Haranguer
August 22, 2014, 12:18 AM
I have a Beltman for leather and a Wilderness Products 5-stitch "Instructor" for nylon. I've worn - but not necessarily carried guns on all the time - the Beltman since 2006 and it shows no abnormal wear. The Velcro on the end of the WP belt, purchased around the same time, is starting to "frazzle" a little, but the rest of it is fine. The WP belt, if it goes with your dress/social situation, has the advantage of infinite adjustability.

zerobarrier
August 22, 2014, 01:58 AM
A thick leather belt 1.5-1.75" wide.

This one I have heard is good: http://shop.simplyrugged.com/ecommerce/Simply-Rugged-Belt-Laminated-see-description-.cfm?item_id=194&parent=670

This one I use almost everyday and I carry either a full size 1911, S&W M69, or Taurus 455:http://www.mernickleholsters.com/pb/pb1.html they do have other styles if you want. I have it in brown

For a black belt I use this one: http://www.bostonleather.com/content/1-12-duty-leather-stitched-belt It works good, a lot cheaper then the other 2. I think it was $28 at my LGS

I also carry 2 mags or speed loaders on the belt as well

fletcher
August 22, 2014, 07:05 AM
Also use a Beltman belt for carry. Been wearing it as my daily belt for ~5 years and it has been great.

DeepSouth
August 22, 2014, 07:18 AM
I've been wearing the same beltman belt for about 5ish years and still love it. It's just as stiff as when I bought it. I wear it daily as a matter of fact it's my only belt but I only wear it when I have pants on. :D

Vodoun da Vinci
August 22, 2014, 08:10 AM
Another vote for Wilderness Tactical...I use the Frequent Flyer belt as I think it looks more casual and less tactical with jeans and casual wear.

http://www.thewilderness.com/images/products/ffbelt.jpg

Can't say enough good things about the Wilderness Tactical belts. Super stiff and supportive, easy to adjust, and durable.

VooDoo

LeftyTSGC
August 22, 2014, 09:07 AM
I got mine thru rick, check out his site, he provides personal service at great value.
:D
http://www.rgleather.freehomepage.com/

rickg48@bex.net

I bought two belts a black and brown in thick leather plus a pancake holster and Mag holder.

Lefty

HexHead
August 22, 2014, 10:16 AM
Galco Cop Belt. Been wearing it every day since 2007.

627PCFan
August 22, 2014, 11:09 AM
I own 3 beltmans :)

bigfatdave
August 22, 2014, 12:00 PM
I have 2 beltman belts and 1 crossbreed belt

the CB belt is nice, but not AS NICE - it is a work belt now while I use the BM belts for out in the real world

Spats McGee
August 22, 2014, 12:47 PM
I've had an Aker B21 for about 3 years and a DeSantis Econobelt for, oh, maybe 6-8 months. Both work very well. I carry both IWB and OWB (but not at the same time). Having a good belt built for the purpose of carrying the weight of a gun makes a huge difference.

Louca
August 22, 2014, 01:05 PM
+1 for The Beltman (http://www.thebeltman.net/). Good quality and good people.

Having a good belt and holster (I have a Bladetech) will allow for a solid feel on the draw, as opposed to feeling like you are first pulling your pants up and dragging the piece out of your pants.

If/when I ever get another belt, it will be from them and I will have it be just a tad longer and will opt for holes 3/4-inches apart.

Lou

jolly roger
August 22, 2014, 02:26 PM
Aker B21 here also. Reasonably priced and good

Phaedrus/69
August 24, 2014, 04:07 AM
I have a couple of 1.5" gunbelts from Bullhidebelts.com (http://www.bullhidebelts.com/Gun-Belts_ep_111-1.html). I have been very happy with the belts and the service if fast and professional. That said I would like to eventually get something a little nicer. Mine look very good but I bought them before I knew much about gun belts. I still think they're a good choice for the money and they've held up well, but I think a double-layer belt will probably last longer. And a custom maker will have more buckle and trim options. Again, I'm perfectly happy with the ones I have but down the road I will probably get something a bit "ritzier".

I think I'll probably get one from Armour Belts (http://www.armourbelts.com/armourbelts/gun-belt-gun-belt-gun-belts-belt-leather-belt) next. Mike will make about anything you want and he told me he could do a custom hole configuration. The only thing that has me waiting is that I've been shedding weight and working out. I don't want to get a semi-expensive belt and have it be too big in six months. They will do more holes in closer spacing and even a hybrid (regular spacing with a few extra holes more closely spaced, to give a bit more options). I like this since I usually carry IWB but do sometimes wear an OWB holster. More adjustment would be great to accommodate both kinds of rigs.

Wyatt
August 24, 2014, 02:39 PM
I bought 2 from A&G a couple years ago and will buy from them again when these wear out. As I recall, they are in the $75 - $90 range

JDGray
August 24, 2014, 07:59 PM
Ares Ranger;)
http://www.laruetactical.com/ranger-belt-ares-gear

welldoya
August 25, 2014, 12:05 AM
I've bought several nice thick belts from Cabelas on sale in the $20-$30 range. I'm not destitute but can't see paying $70+ for a belt. I've gotten both leather and nylon and they work fine.

JTQ
August 25, 2014, 09:52 AM
welldoya wrote,
I've bought several nice thick belts from Cabelas on sale in the $20-$30 range. I'm not destitute but can't see paying $70+ for a belt. I've gotten both leather and nylon and they work fine.
A worthwhile point.

It is a matter of perspective and what gun you are carrying. If you are carrying a Ruger LCP, or a Glock 26, or even up to a G19/17 you could probably get away with any belt. On the other hand, if you are carrying a Government size 1911 or a S&W Model 29, a gun belt makes a huge difference.

I have a very nice thick Cabela's belt. In comparison to even an inexpensive option like a Wilderness 5-stitch Instructor belt, the Cabela's belt is like a wet noodle. A gun belt makes a huge difference and is worth whatever they cost.

mikey98e
August 25, 2014, 12:38 PM
I have a couple from Crossbreed that work fine. One is the plain 1.25" the other is the fancy dress 1.5".
-mike

340PD
August 25, 2014, 12:44 PM
Rick Garcia. Think about seven holes with 3/4" spacing. You get lots of adjust-ability.

http://www.rgleather.freehomepage.com/

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t320/gnystrom_photos/sidebyside.jpg

dab102999
August 25, 2014, 01:04 PM
I've bought several nice thick belts from Cabelas on sale in the $20-$30 range. I'm not destitute but can't see paying $70+ for a belt. I've gotten both leather and nylon and they work fine.

I have spent the last few years under this plan. Nothing wrong with it at all. I am not one to have multiple holster and the thought of spending close to $100 on a belt is very hard to swallow. I have a 5.11 belt and am very happy with it. About a month ago or so the Velcro is not working the best. I have switched my belt wear so that the Velcro is held tight by the clips of my holster and work well. I carry anything from a full size M$P 40 with 15 round mag (farm carry) to a Shield or Kimber Ultra carry for EDC. The 5.11 works fine but I do have to "hitch" it a little tight sometimes.


I had some extra money from a vacation check so after about 3 years worth of internet searching I decided to buy a beltman belt. Now I only have a couple of weeks with this belt so longevity I am relying on internet input but I can say this is a very, very good belt. Way better then my 5.11. I do not have to "hitch" my belt tight at all. I wore it with my full size 40 this weekend since I was going to be working outside. Still hard to swallow that $90 some dollars but do not regreat it one bit.

jcwit
August 25, 2014, 03:23 PM
I have my belts made my a local Amish Harness Shop. Any width I want, any length I wand any style of buckle I want, always cost less than $20 bucks. They are stiff, and they are thick, how thick? Don't know and not going to get up and measure one now.

Last one I had made lasted for 15 years.

Mainsail
August 25, 2014, 07:42 PM
Crossbreed Holsters has a seconds website where they sell their blems. They sell blem belts there too. I've bought two of them, one for me and one for my wife, and we can't find a blemish anywhere. Much cheaper than their regular site prices, so you can try it out on the cheap.

Mr.510
August 26, 2014, 12:27 AM
I carried my XD45C IWB daily with a Comp-Tac belt for a few years and it was great. After losing weight and needing a smaller belt (woohoo!) I got a Wilderness Tactical Instructor Belt. The instructor belt is much more comfortable than the Comp-Tac as it is really thin, like only an 1/8" thick. I have the polymer reinforced (stiffest) version. It's no where near as stiff as the Comp-Tac the direction it wraps around you, but is every bit as stiff vertically and resistant to twisting as the heavy leather gun belts. It's vertical stiffness and twist resistance that separate regular belts from gun belts and great gun belts from OK ones. The Wilderness belt is also infinitely adjustable and I actually use the safety tie-off/load bearing buckle feature on some of my adventures in the woods.

1911 guy
August 27, 2014, 01:16 AM
Another vote for the Wilderness instructor belt. Five stitch preferred over the three stitch.

Water-Man
August 27, 2014, 01:50 AM
Tucker Gun Leather - Latigo Canyon Gun Belt.

DFisher3112
August 31, 2014, 04:26 PM
Thanks for all the help guys. I still haven't placed an order for a belt yet but hopefully I can this week.

For those of you that currently conceal carry- how thick or inches does a IWB add? So for example I wear a 32" waist for my pants but is slightly big. I'm hoping that my Alien Gear Cloak Tuck 2.0 holster takes up the slack. If thats that case, I'm assuming I need a 33" or 34" belt correct?

Jorg Nysgerrig
August 31, 2014, 06:03 PM
There's nothing subtle about that SOE belt. I suppose it'll look great with 5.11 pants and a photographer vest. :)

JTQ
August 31, 2014, 06:38 PM
DFisher3112 wrote,
For those of you that currently conceal carry- how thick or inches does a IWB add? So for example I wear a 32" waist for my pants but is slightly big. I'm hoping that my Alien Gear Cloak Tuck 2.0 holster takes up the slack. If thats that case, I'm assuming I need a 33" or 34" belt correct?
Huge critical point here.

Don't order a belt based on your jeans waist size. The belt size will almost never be the same size as your jeans size. Every belt maker has a "how to measure your belt" section on their website. Follow their directions very carefully. Most will have tips on how to account for IWB carry. If you don't follow their directions, and get the wrong size, it is your fault.

Some examples

The Wilderness Tactical http://www.thewilderness.com/index.php?p=page&page_id=Belt%20Sizing/FAQ

A&G Custom Leather http://agcustomgunleather.com/store/craftsmanship/belt-sizing/

The Beltman http://www.thebeltman.net/sizing.htm

chaddy
August 31, 2014, 08:56 PM
Will a gun belt keep my iwb from pulling my pants down ?

btg3
August 31, 2014, 09:19 PM
Some guns belt offer a rigid kydex core. I've found the all leather guns belts to be the better choice. Has anyone else compared and prefer the uber stiff/rigid belts?

Jorg Nysgerrig
September 1, 2014, 01:48 AM
Will a gun belt keep my iwb from pulling my pants down ?
Depends how tight you wear your belt, where you wear it, and your body shape.

JTQ
September 1, 2014, 10:31 AM
An aside to the OP. It just struck me, you are in North Carolina, which is also the home of "The Beltman". I believe he is about 2 hours from your location.

I'd buy from the in-state guy, especially since he makes a known quality product.

WRGADog
September 1, 2014, 02:14 PM
I carry OWB and use a Galco 1.5 inch works great no sagging.

armoredman
September 1, 2014, 02:17 PM
One vote for the High Noon Rock Steady gun belt - I hung up my thick leather belts some time ago and switched to this belt exclusively.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/High%20noon%20Gear/Thewholeset.jpg (http://s16.photobucket.com/user/armoredman/media/High%20noon%20Gear/Thewholeset.jpg.html)

http://highnoonholsters.com/

Best belt I've ever tried.

guncheese
September 1, 2014, 05:31 PM
i let Dave at Sturdy Belt (http://goo.gl/uP7rJC)
make my stuff
http://goo.gl/rLROKZ

AZ PAUL
September 1, 2014, 11:30 PM
I have been wearing an Beltman belt daily since October of 2012.

DFisher3112
September 3, 2014, 12:21 PM
I was able to get around to measuring my waist size correct and need a 34" Belt. I ended up ordering a Brown Coat Tactical Belt which came highly recommended by me from some local guys who carry daily and have tried quite a few products.

Here's a link to the belt I ordered. You can get it from 30"-36" and so on. It allows for plenty of adjustment.
http://browncoattactical.com/shop/belts/edc-belt/

I think soon I will also try a Comp-Tac Kydex Reinforced Belt for those times I may need something "dressier". I'll be sure to post up a review once I get the belt.

DFisher3112
September 8, 2014, 12:19 PM
Received the belt on Saturday 9/6/14. Great customer service and fast shipping from Brown Coat Tactical. The quality of the belt is excellent and I'm extremely happy with the workmanship. I have not had a chance to wear it but when I get back from my trip this week, I'll post up pictures and a review.

exdetsgt
September 28, 2014, 11:04 PM
D.M.Bullard. Aside from making excellent holsters, his belts are good-looking, tough, stiff, and durable. I've worn mine every day for the last seven years.

markman
September 29, 2014, 09:34 AM
I picked up a couple of 5.11 leather belts very reasonably that work pretty good. They have some kind of insert in them where they don't sag with the weigh of a pistol.

tactikel
October 2, 2014, 09:25 PM
+1 on the wilderness belt, it is stiff, but serves as a great base for any rig. A bit tactical, but affordable and will last for ever.

DT Guy
October 2, 2014, 10:39 PM
If you're looking at a Wilderness belt and don't need the climbing components, check out the Propper 180 belt; double layered, five-stitched nylon with a 'normal' nylon buckle.

It's essentially the equivalent of a Wilderness belt without the climbing buckle and all that 'odd' stuff. Bonus is it's only about $15!

Larry

DigMe
October 11, 2014, 09:18 PM
I've had belts from Crossbreed, Gunners Alley (I've been told that when I bought it they were made by the belt man) and Rafter S gun leather. The Rafter S is by far the best of the 3 but they went through some tough times due to a divorce when Della Schafer took over and business went down hill. She was killed in a wreck and to my knowledge they are no longer in business.

I've been wearing that Rafter S most days for around 11 years. It's not in any danger of falling apart but the finish doesn't look as good as it used to for work so I think I'm gonna order one from Armour Belts to replace it. I hope it comes close to being as good.

brad

BlindJustice
October 12, 2014, 10:55 AM
Milt Sparks 1 1/2" - Supports OWB/IWB very well.

R-

old fart
October 15, 2014, 12:09 PM
what is a good belt for the money? how good are the daltech force The RoughCut® Bull Hide, Tan belt. thanks

JTQ
October 15, 2014, 02:04 PM
I haven't heard of them so I couldn't tell you.

I've never seen any negative comments (well, other than people ordered the wrong size) about some of the well known options already listed in this thread such as The Beltman, A&G Custom Leather, RG Leather, etc., and in nylon The Wilderness Tactical. It would be hard to go wrong with any of those. It's your call if you want to try something different.



For the OP, DFisher3112, how as your new belt worked out?

pesty3782
October 22, 2014, 09:42 AM
Aker Leather model B-21.....I have been using their stuff for over 29 years now and it is made is San Diego County.

If interested anything aker leather let me know and I can save you 20% off of retail.

Tony P.

akerleather.com

CodeSection
October 23, 2014, 05:50 PM
I have been wearing an Beltman belt daily since October of 2012.

Same here. I own two belts made by theBeltman. I had him include the stiffener in both belts. Matter-of-fact, he resized one of the belts by shortening it 4" and currently has my other belt to do the same. Jim is a good guy and prides himself in producing long lasting belts!

AfghanVetOrcutt
November 9, 2014, 04:35 PM
I've been looking into Beltman's belts and this thread just convinced me. Thanks guys!

earlthegoat2
November 9, 2014, 05:08 PM
I actually make my own. Have not quite busted into doing it full scale for profit yet but I am dabbling. Here is one I made 2 years ago and have alternated with my Beltman ever since. It shows some wear but not as much as the Beltman.

The basketweave is one I just made. I made two exactly alike. One for a customer and one for me to just look at because it turned out so nice. Ill probably put it on Etsy.

Both of these are made of horse hide witch is tough and stiff as heck and will last forever if taken care of even infrequently.

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll66/earlthegoat2/DSC00200_zps74c1179c.jpg (http://s285.photobucket.com/user/earlthegoat2/media/DSC00200_zps74c1179c.jpg.html)

I am a forever fan of horse hide. If the Rock Steady belt was made of horse hide it would go from a great belt to a true masterpiece of semi custom haberdashery. The great benefit of horse hide is that it is denser, harder, stiffer, and thus just plain stronger. You can have a thinner belt made from horse and have just the same amount of stiffness and strength as a comparable but thicker cowhide belt.

JRC332
November 9, 2014, 06:34 PM
I have one 1 1/2 inch belt made by TT Gunleather and one1 1/2 inch belt made by The Beltman. Both are high quality and work well. You can't go wrong with either.

JTQ
November 9, 2014, 07:49 PM
earlthegoat2 wrote,
If the Rock Steady belt was made of horse hide it would go from a great belt to a true masterpiece of semi custom haberdashery.
I'm not sure if you are telling this to armoredman (who knows his way around the High Noon catalog as well as anybody) or if you are asking, but the High Noon Rock Steady belt is available in horsehide. http://www.highnoonholsters.com/Product_Line/Rock_Steady_Belts_/rock_steady_belts_.html

steven58
November 9, 2014, 09:26 PM
If you are looking at horsehide belts (or gunbelts in general), I was very satisfied with the products from A Better Belt. So much so that I did a mini review here http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=764982.

They are worth a look;)

Upstater
November 10, 2014, 09:52 PM
If you fellas like horse hide belts, you owe to yourself to try an elephant hide belt. I have one from Bullhide belts and I must say it is not only comfortable, holds any weapon I carry including a full size all steel 1911, and is stylish to boot. You wouldn't feel out of place wearing this one to a BBQ or church for that matter.

HRnightmare
November 10, 2014, 10:45 PM
Tommy Theis' Jake Belt. About $60 and AWESOME quality. I have had it for about a year, wear it EVERYday with a gun hangin gon it nearly always and it has NOT sagged or given at all.

I have put a few scratches in it removing my metal clips for my hybrid holster but no fault of the product.

Great product, great price, AMAZING CS.

earlthegoat2
November 11, 2014, 10:55 PM
Yes sir, I saw the comment by armoredman but I was actually referring to my own experiences with the Rock Steady and you are right, it is available in horse. Very good. Unfortunately it appears there is a hefty premium placed on their horse hide belts compared to say Belt Man or A&G. $100 compared to $160 is large margin compared to the $20 margin of Belt Man or $10 margin of A&G.

I'm not turning this into a price war either. I am pointing out the marginal price difference only. The bullhide Rock Steady I have is every bit the belt of the bullhide Belt Man I still wear occasionally. It appears their horse hide option puts the price up into the realm of exotic leathers though.

JTQ
November 12, 2014, 01:05 PM
JTQ wrote,
...the High Noon Rock Steady belt is available in horsehide.
earlthegoat2 wrote,
...it appears there is a hefty premium placed on their horse hide belts...$100 compared to $160 is large margin...
Is that too much to pay for a "true masterpiece of semi custom haberdashery"?;)
earlthegoat2 wrote,
If the Rock Steady belt was made of horse hide it would go from a great belt to a true masterpiece of semi custom haberdashery.
All kidding aside, I agee. High Noon puts a lot of premium on their horsehide products. While I like High Noon's stuff in general, the thing that has always scared me away from the Rock Stead belt it the thickness of their belts. It is this picture I found a while back showing how much thicker than a Beltman belt.

It is down near the bottom of this for sale thread. Not mine, and I'm sure this stuff has been sold long ago, but it shows just how thick the Rock Steady belt.

http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/member-buy-sell-trade/70633-wts-high-noon-down-under-black-iwb-holster-tx.html

earlthegoat2
November 12, 2014, 07:45 PM
Even though I like that thickness I think it is incroaching on diminishing returns for most folks.

Chris54326
November 15, 2014, 04:52 PM
For what it's worth, I highly recommend A Better Belts. http://abetterbeltusa.com/ Excellent belt, unbelievable delivery time for a custom belt (got my custom belt 8 days after I placed the order!) and the customer service goes far and above super. Husband and wife team and they truly aim to please.

johnnyace762
January 2, 2015, 03:55 PM
Hey guys! I'm new to this forum. I've been looking for a good EDC belt myself. I've been drooling over the Cobra Riggers Belts by Snake Eater Tactical (http://www.snakeeatertactical.com/product/cobra-riggers-belt-2/). They leave an opening behind the buckle to clip into instead of the traditional V-ring. It looks way more comfortable. Plus they have cool stitch patterns. Anyone have any experience with this company?

DT Guy
January 2, 2015, 08:52 PM
Hey guys! I'm new to this forum. I've been looking for a good EDC belt myself. I've been drooling over the Cobra Riggers Belts by Snake Eater Tactical. They leave an opening behind the buckle to clip into instead of the traditional V-ring. It looks way more comfortable. Plus they have cool stitch patterns. Anyone have any experience with this company?


I don't, but the flat, bent metal buckle on that belt seems like it would get uncomfortable; I'm not convinced that a space between two folds of webbing would be as secure as the dedicated buckle of the Wilderness, although I admittedly don't have any climbing experience.


Larry

johnnyace762
January 2, 2015, 11:04 PM
The way I see it, the V-ring is sewn in between the two layers of webbing. So by deleting it and clipping a carabiner in the same spot would be just as strong. The Snake Eater belts look really well made, plus there is a Youtube video of them testing one in a lab.

JTQ
January 3, 2015, 08:33 AM
While I'm not a fan of them, lots of guys like the Cobra buckle.

Once you are geared up, it is just a quick snap to undo your belt. On the other hand you need to remove the buckle from the belt to thread your gear onto the belt and to put the belt through the belt loops. I consider the latter a bigger inconvenience than the former is a convenience.

I prefer the Wilderness Instructor Belts http://www.thewilderness.com/tactical-belts/

While I have the standard 5 stitch instructor belt, if I were to order today, I'd probably order the 5 stitch Frequent Flyer belt.

jcwit
January 3, 2015, 08:35 PM
http://biothanebelt.com/

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