Mini 1911?


April 12, 2004, 06:18 PM
Is there any such thing as a smaller 1911 in say, 9mm or 40 S&W? I've seen tiny little .380 ACP 1911s, and big full sized .45 ACP 1911s, but not much in the middle...

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April 12, 2004, 06:26 PM
STI LS9/40 (

April 12, 2004, 08:50 PM

April 13, 2004, 02:03 AM
The SA is a standard sized gun, just chopped. The STI is VERY intersting though.

April 13, 2004, 07:41 AM
tiberius, maybe you didn't notice the 9mm version?

April 13, 2004, 08:04 AM
The 9mm Springfield Ultra Compact is also just a chopped standard 1911. If you look at the STI you'll note that it takes advantage of the smaller cartridge to use a slimmer slide & frame.

Anyhow, I've often thought that with modern metallurgy, a Star/Colt .380-size nine millimeter would be eminently doable. I just wonder if anybody would buy one, though... :uhoh:

April 13, 2004, 09:58 AM

Very doable I would think. Wouldn't that kinda be like a Colt Pocket Nine but with SA lockwork? I'd sure like one.

April 13, 2004, 01:19 PM
Take a look at a Para-Ordance P-10 (9mm), it sounds to me like something you may be interested in.

April 13, 2004, 02:15 PM
The reason I brought this up is because I was looking at my Dad's .380 the other day. It's a Llama 1911 stlye, but about half the size of the standard 1911, maybe even smaller. And it's not just chopped down, it's thinner too.

So I was thinking that thats a great idea, but .380 is a bit on the small side. So it got me to thinking that something similar but slightly larger in 9mm or .40 S&W would be really cool...

Peter M. Eick
April 13, 2004, 03:05 PM
I have been trying to convince Bob Serva of Dan Wesson to bring out a 3/4 scale 1911 specifically made for the 9mm round. Just a tad bigger then the colt gov 380 but 1911 format to the core. I think it would be just about perfect and would give them a whole unique product line. The problem is as Tamara put it, would anyone else buy one......

Neat idea though and I love my little gov 380. Great gun and very reliable.

April 13, 2004, 03:14 PM
I'll buy one. :D

I'd even buy the Colt 380 if they still made those. :(

April 13, 2004, 08:37 PM
Yeah, I got a Colt Mustang in .380 that is very similar to the series 80 1911. Biggest difference is the lack of a grip safety but other than that, the rest of the controls are all the same. Great little gun. :)

April 13, 2004, 08:44 PM
I'd sure buy one! You wouldn't see me hesitate a minute to be the guinea pig for a new design like that.

Like the rest here, I've often wondered why the majority of 9mm 1911's are nothing more than a big, hulking .45acp 1911 with a smaller boresize. I realize there's a lot of money saved by just drilling a smaller hole down the barrel, but come on, does it really make sense from a user's standpoint?

Similarly, the Bersa Thunder .380 seems a bit big for such a small round. I was shooting a friend's the other day and really got into the design and ergonomics. I just wish there was one in 9mm Luger so I could share ammo with my BHP.

The STI LS9 looks very promising. A bit expensive, but still better than anything else out there.

I'll definitely buy when there are more choices. Maybe I'll buy two or three so I can change out regularly.

Someone needs to make a 7/8ths scale 1911 in 9mm luger. Please!

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