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txcookie
November 18, 2014, 06:53 PM
I'm leaning rem 700 adl or ruger all american. It's gonna be for the wife and daughter so probably a 243.

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Ar180shooter
November 18, 2014, 06:59 PM
Tikka T3 would be my recommendation. Never had any trigger time with the Ruger, so can't comment on it. I'd avoid Remington if possible, far too many issues over the last decade to consider buying one.

Damon555
November 18, 2014, 07:13 PM
The Remington will be a perfectly fine choice.....My other pick would be Savage. For not much more than all the manufacturers economy models (American, Icon, Axis....etc) you can get the base model of their best action....The ADL is right where you want to be.....

js8588
November 18, 2014, 07:39 PM
Zastava M70

http://www.centerfiresystems.com/RI1980-N.aspx

Great deal on a well made rifle. I have one in 270.

sappyg
November 18, 2014, 09:09 PM
Of the 3 budget rifles I am familiar with the ADL is my favorite. The stock feels more rigid and the rifle has few if any quirks or quirkiness.

Got a love hate thing for the RA. I love everything about it but hate the way it acts sometimes. Have the ladies try the compact. The light weight and LOP may bet just what's needed.

Savage rocks but I'm not sure if they can be had with a short action if that matters. Feeds better IMO than the RA and it's easily the more dependable of the two.

gotigers
November 18, 2014, 10:01 PM
My Remington 700 5R is an awesome rifle. A bit higher priced than the two you mentioned. If I were looking today for a budget bolt, the Ruger American would get a good long look. The American's price is great and it is getting very good reviews.

mnhntr
November 18, 2014, 11:21 PM
Savage

TexasPatriot.308
November 18, 2014, 11:26 PM
the new low end Remingtons are pure junk, rough as hell and trash....low end if you can still find one, get a Stevens 200 if not go to Savage 10s or 110s (Stevens 200s are those same firearms without accutrigers), I hear good stuff about the Ruger Americans....for the price Weatherby low end rifles made by Howa I think are hard to beat along with Tikkas. I own a few of these firearms so this is from my experience.

miamivicedade
November 18, 2014, 11:38 PM
Remington or Savage. Fine rifles.

Arkansas Paul
November 18, 2014, 11:41 PM
Between the two you mentioned I would take the Remington. However since it is for your wife and daughter, I would take them with you and see which one fits them the best and they are most comfortable with. They're gonna be the ones shooting it.

gspn
November 18, 2014, 11:42 PM
I don't have experience with the two you are leaning toward, but other have mentioned Savage and my experience with them has been very positive. They seem to make a good, affordable rifle that is accurate right out of the box.

bangswitch
November 19, 2014, 12:31 AM
Another one to consider is the Marlin X7. You can get it in short or long action, and it has a trigger much like Savage's accutrigger. I gave less than $400 for my XS7 in .308. Shoots great.

JeeperCreeper
November 19, 2014, 02:31 AM
I vote Ruger American Compact.... especially for wife and daughter. Shot 3 different Americans, none disappointed. Plus you can't beat the price to quality ratio: it's just science...

CaliCoastie
November 19, 2014, 02:53 AM
Spend a couple hundred more for a step up. Or not, i got a one that wasn't all it was cracked up to be accuracy wise. Sold it and bought a tikka t3 and won't touch anything new for under 5 bills. Used is a different story. Are you opposed to buying used? And do you need it now? Hunting season is full swing, might get some better deals if you wait a bit.

Captcurt
November 19, 2014, 07:40 AM
Sorry guys, but I don't understand the term when an item cost twice as much as a supposedly comparable item. When you talk budget rifles I am thinking inexpensive. Something in the $300-$500 range. I have seen few Tikkas that wholesale for less than $500. I checked 3 of my distributors and the cheapest T3 was $550. I am sure that you can find one for less, but it is not a budget rifle unless you compare it to a Kimber or a Cooper.

Of the guns mentioned by the OP the American gets the nod. My pick would be a Savage 11XP or a T/C Venture. Both are solid decent rifles and both have a $75 rebate right now. Best boom for your buck.

RetiredUSNChief
November 19, 2014, 08:00 AM
I'm of the opinion that if the OP has settled on Remington 700 or Ruger American as his "budget rifle", then he's pretty much established his budget allowance. Given the options available, there is some lattitude on price spread.

But the Tikka comment wasn't a direct recommendation, it was relating someone's experience and subsequent decision to buy a Tikka later. And a recommendation to check out used for a better price deal on a more expensive, better quality rifle to stay in budget.

;)

Arkansas Paul
November 19, 2014, 12:19 PM
Spend a couple hundred more for a step up.

It never fails. When someone asks an opinion on a certain product that doesn't cost a fortune, people come out of the woodwork telling them to spend more money. Have you taken notice of the economy lately? Most people are on a tight budget these days and have set aside an amount they're comfortable spending on whatever item is being considered.

If spending more were an option, he likely wouldn't be asking about the two in question.

MtnCreek
November 19, 2014, 12:32 PM
TC Venture is worth a look.

Beentown
November 19, 2014, 02:02 PM
Ruger American lPredator is what I chose.

Ks5shooter
November 19, 2014, 02:05 PM
Don't rule out the TC Venture 75 dollar rebate goin on now. Get the compact version and it comes with spacer for longer LOP later on . I own 4 they are tackdrivers.

Arkansas Paul
November 19, 2014, 02:17 PM
I've never heard a bad thing about T/C Ventures. They can still be had for $400 or less too (that's my personal opinion of where budget rifles end. Your opinion may vary).

I like Weatherby Vanguards, but I don't really consider them budget guns any more. Used to you could get them for $350-$400 but those days are over. I think the new ones are about $550 now. Still a good rifle for the money, but not really a budget gun when you consider most manufacturers have entry level rifles in the $300-$400 range (some even cheaper but I wouldn't buy a Remington 770 or the like. Both of the guns the OP mentioned are leaps and bounds better than that).

Moparnut
November 19, 2014, 04:45 PM
The savage hunter series is pretty reasonable priced and I have never had a problem with the one I owned. (Model # eludes me 110/10? 111/11?) I would have to say that most rifles on the market now budget or otherwise are plenty accurate and decent buys.

Fishbed77
November 19, 2014, 05:03 PM
I'd avoid Remington if possible, far too many issues over the last decade to consider buying one.

Or buy an older Remington.

My 1993-production 700ADL in .243 is very well-made and very accurate. 20 years later and it is still my go-to rifle for whitetail.

Palehorseman
November 19, 2014, 05:10 PM
B-I-L recently went on Alaskan sheep hunt, he took his ram right through the left ear, with the RA in .308 at 470 yards. That is the rifle and caliber Ruger wanted him to use, and he did a bang up job with it. Pun intended.

urbaneruralite
November 19, 2014, 05:28 PM
Nothing wrong with letting them pick out their own. You pick which ones they choose from, they pick the one. I wouldn't be surprised if it came out to be a wooden stocked one off the used rack.

Might also consider a 7mm08. There's a couple 120gr loads out. It's running the same case and amount of powder as a .243 with only twenty more grains of bullet.

Arkansas Paul
November 19, 2014, 06:06 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if it came out to be a wooden stocked one off the used rack.

Wouldn't surprise me either. That's where my wife's deer rifle came from.
Ruger M77 tang safety in .243 Win. I believe it was $350 with a cheap Bushnell. It now wears a Leupold VX-1 and is a darn good rifle.

CMC
November 19, 2014, 06:13 PM
I got a Savage youth 243 for my grandson and it workout great.
I since have seen the Remington 700 youth model in 243 and wish I have gotten that one.

J_McLeod
November 20, 2014, 10:21 PM
I bought a Savage Axis youth model in .243 for my wife. It cost me about $350 with a decent scope on it and it shoots pretty well. With handloaded Hornady bullets and H414 I'm pretty sure it's more accurate than I am.

B!ngoFuelUSN
November 22, 2014, 02:17 AM
Of the two rifles you mention, if buying a new gun I'd take the Ruger if only because the current low- mid-priced Remington's are iffy at best.
But unless you are totally adverse to buying pre-owned, then there's likely a larger universe of choices at your price point. Certainly an older Remington would be a great choice. At least 10 years old though. Preferably older. Perhaps you could knock enough off the price of a new Tikka to make a used one affordable. They are incredible but if purchased new, they are somewhat out of the OP's range. And there's a wide range of other brands/models to look at.
Finally, you might want to take a look at what they are selling at CDNN. Now and then they have a nice rifle with a freaky low price. I assume they buy a block of overstock models and can blow them out. If the OP is set to buy a new one, I'd take a look over there.
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damienph
November 22, 2014, 11:16 AM
The Mossberg 100 ATR is a decent rifle for the money. A young guy I work with bought a scope combo model in .243 for his wife to deer hunt with last year. I was surprised at the quality of the rifle, good metal finish, decent fitting birch (?)checkered stock. The scope was a pretty cheap chinese (not going to bash the brand) that I replaced for him with an older Redfield 3-9x40 that I had as a spare. I sighted it in and between the three of us shot a full box through; it is easily capable of an inch or so at 100 yards. He paid right at $300 for it on sale at either Dick's or Cabelas, I can't remember now which.

That was last November, I have since seen the same rifle, except with a synthetic stock, with scope, regularly selling for less than $300. I think that the regular priced wood stock version is between $350 and $400, but still a decent rifle, with a scope and rings.

A scoped, synthetic stock version could be well under the $300 limit "on sale".

Sock Puppet
November 22, 2014, 12:05 PM
I'd take a hard look at the TC Venture. It's a whole lot of rifle for the money, even without the rebate.

Ks5shooter
November 22, 2014, 12:23 PM
Rebate is good to end of November on Venture
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AABEN
November 22, 2014, 12:30 PM
Savage or the Rem 783 or the old Rem 788 in the 243 will make them a very good gun. Both the Savage and Rem has had some very good reports. Less than 1 in at a 100 yd with factory ammo. GOOD LUCK

nathan
November 22, 2014, 12:34 PM
marlin Xs 7 mm 08 is what i have.

krupparms
November 22, 2014, 06:10 PM
The Ruger or a Savage. Both are fine rifles!

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