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BamBam-31
April 16, 2004, 03:44 AM
Hey, did anyone notice THR's clock hasn't adjusted to Daylight Savings yet?

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BamBam-31
April 16, 2004, 04:04 AM
Hmm. Just noticed the GMT thing. GMT doesn't spring or fall, does it? Nevermind....

fix
April 18, 2004, 06:03 PM
It is off by an hour using EST.

TheBluesMan
April 18, 2004, 11:37 PM
It's not off by an hour using EST. It is off by an hour using EDT. The server clock remains sync'd with Greenwich Mean Time year 'round.

What that means is resetting your preferences from -5 to -4 if you are in the Eastern Time Zone. Gotta set 'em back to -5 in the fall too.

Mal H
April 19, 2004, 12:56 PM
An automated resetting would be nice, but, as I understand it, it's not possible since some localities don't use the "daylight savings time" change. So if the server clock was 'corrected', it would still be off for some and correct for others. Considering that THR and many such BB's are viewed worldwide, it could create a real mess if we didn't stick with simply synching to GMT. There are sophisticated methods to solve the automation problem, but sophistication in programming brings its own set of new problems.

IMO, vBulletin's time offset selection should simply be -1, -2, -3, etc. instead of giving them names. The names are what confuses things at times.

tyme
April 19, 2004, 06:15 PM
Default vbulletin behavior is to base forum time on system time, which is EST8EDT and adjusts for daylight saving time.

The reason I think that's absolutely moronic, and why it was changed, is that anyone who has time set to GMT, or who doesn't observe DST (AZ and part of IL, if I recall) have to go fiddle with their timezone settings and select one labelled incorrectly. The only labels are GMT-x or GMT+x, and IMO those ought to be accurate.

There are two server-side solutions. Some forum software has an extra per-user option that allows them to set or unset DST for themself individually. vb3 takes another route, using javascript to get the user's computer time and use that for the forum time.

This may all be moot prior to the fall change, since THR will probably upgrade to vB3 by then.

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