most modern service rifle?


December 27, 2002, 11:41 PM
what country has the most modern service rifle (ie most technologically advanced) in the world? what rifle is this?

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December 27, 2002, 11:44 PM
That's kind of difficult. The German G36 is NEWEST, I think.

The Russians have a few rifles (like the AN-94) with a recoil impulse absorption system that allows for automatic firing with negligible muzzle rise. It's not in standard service yet.

December 27, 2002, 11:58 PM
The AN-94 doesn't absorb recoil. It has a special system where when it fires a double tap, the second round is clear of the barrel before the recoil from the first has hit you to throw off your aim. After those two rounds, it fires a straight cyclic rate in the 600 rpm range (the first 2 leave at 1800 rpm)

December 28, 2002, 12:56 AM
I'd say both the German and Spanish Armed Forces, as they both deploy the HK G36 and its variants.

OBTW, the new Nato Rapid Reaction Force deploys the HK G36 weapon system also.

December 28, 2002, 01:39 AM
Is the G36 really that technologically advanced from say an Ar18? Same gas system, the G36 does have a lot more plastic though.

December 28, 2002, 04:53 AM
Just an FYI, the AN-94 was designed by Mikhail Kalashnikov's son. I wonder if dad helped any?

December 28, 2002, 12:09 PM
I don't think the AN94 was designed by MK's son... he had an entry that didn't make it.

Marko Kloos
December 28, 2002, 12:13 PM
I'd say the G36 is the most "modern". It comes from the factory with low-power optics and a red dot collimator sight already installed, and it was designed with the benefits and drawbacks of other weapons like the M16 firmly in mind.

December 28, 2002, 03:24 PM
..the G36 does have a lot more plastic though.
To Quote John H. and his "Unofficial Homepage of the the H&K G36".
The extensive use of synthetic materials is among the most noteworthy characteristics of the G36... The G36 is the first production rifle to have a receiver made from a polymer compound. In fact, the only metal parts are the barrel, gas piston, bolt assembly, mainspring, retaining pins, receiver rails and a number of minor components inside the trigger housing.

Receiver, stock, forearm, carrying handle and trigger housing are all made from a special high-strength injection-moulded polyamide (apparently Nylon 66), reinforced with microscopic carbon fibres. This material combines high resistance to corrosion, wear, chemicals and radiation with low weight, great strength and high dimensional stability.

The receiver has moulded-in stainless steel rails, on which the bolt assembly reciprocates. All metal parts subjected to friction are given a special coating, which also helps protect against corrosion. The cold hammer forged barrel is made from corrosion resistant chrome steel, internally chrome-lined and externally protected by a tough, matte-black oxide finish.

The use of synthetic materials results in a rifle with a very low weight and a high degree of resistance to wear and corrosion. ...


December 28, 2002, 03:27 PM
I guess the G36 wins.;)

December 28, 2002, 03:28 PM
I'd still rather have a decent flattop AR with my choice of scope than a G36

Andrew Wyatt
December 28, 2002, 08:20 PM

December 28, 2002, 08:48 PM
The G36 is pretty modern. I'd stick with what is tried and true for my collection though and use the polymer for now. Polymer doesn't last forever contrary to popular beleif. Steel lasts forever,just about. I wouldn't want a G36 to keep as an heirloom. How many generations would it last?

December 29, 2002, 12:11 AM
The newest M-16. Everyone in the world that doesn't have them wishes they did!

December 29, 2002, 12:19 AM
I kinda doubt that the " M-14 " would qualify as the most modern service rifle. ;) ;)

December 29, 2002, 12:20 AM
FN p90 paired with a five seven

December 29, 2002, 12:21 AM
The P90 is a submachinegun, not a rifle by any stretch of the imagination

December 29, 2002, 12:26 AM
carried in the same manner as my M-4.

December 29, 2002, 12:26 AM
The FN F2000 is fairly new. It may be a bullpup, but at least it's a new one.

December 29, 2002, 02:21 AM
The newest M-16. Everyone in the world that doesn't have them wishes they did! Bet what they really wish they had is the American holding it and the the U.S. capacity to back it all up.

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