Do you wear camoflauge to the range?


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natedog
April 17, 2004, 05:58 PM
I see quite a bit of people wearing camoflauge to the shooting range, do you? Personally, I'd like to be as visible as possible when there is lots of shooting going on :)

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RED-DOG 40
April 17, 2004, 06:25 PM
:) Not me. :scrutiny:

PlayTheAces
April 17, 2004, 06:25 PM
I prefer a nice Hawaiian shirt myself. :D

CrudeGT
April 17, 2004, 06:26 PM
I'd have to agree with you, i wouldn't want anyone to not see me. I go shooting out in the desert, at a spot that is a common plinking spot, so I could be 'downrange' putting my targets up and someone else could be firing the same direction. I want them to know I'm there.

And I think wearing camo to a shooting range is a little to 'wanna-ba militant' for me. If you normally wear camo and just happen to be wearing it to the range, then that's that. But if you purposely put on camo duds to go shoot at a range, that's a bit cheesy. IMO.

BamBam-31
April 17, 2004, 06:32 PM
I have a surplus M65 woodland jacket that I like wearing to the range. It gets a bit chilly up by those hills. There is no surrounding brush, so I don't really blend in with anything, and I don't mind getting it dirty from the usual range grime.

Is it cheesy? Sure, but I'm a cheesy kinda guy. ;) :D

Lancel
April 17, 2004, 06:33 PM
I wear all kinds of things depending on the range, weather, and mood but I always wear some item thats high visibility - usually a red or orange hat.

Larry

Beetle Bailey
April 17, 2004, 06:35 PM
I usually like to wear old clothes to go shooting, but if I want to practice rifle shooting from the prone or sitting positions, I will wear my BDU pants. Why? Because @ $5 a pair, I don't care if they get all dirty and beat up. I normally just wear a polo shirt, so I guess I don't need to be worried about being mistaken for a wannabe militant-type.

Maybe I'll have to get the old desert camo with the chocolate chips pattern so other shooters can see me ;) .

Crom
April 17, 2004, 06:35 PM
Maybe a civilian type camo cap in leaf pattern. The rest of my shooting attire is the usual jeans and shirt (usually a t-shirt in the late spring/summer and maybe a flannel in the fall/winter) that's all. I leave the military cammies at home.

Most of the other shooters at the range I shoot at are the "what'cha need that fer" types, mostly bench rest shooters and hunters. The sneer at me when I show up with my hi-cap semi-auto's, so I can imagine what they would say or do if I showed up in cammies. It's just not worth the hassle for a couple of hours shooting just to make a fashion statement.

MrMurphy
April 17, 2004, 06:56 PM
I'm not trying to hide from anyone at the range. Black BDU pants sometimes because they're comfortable but camo very rarely. Besides, most ranges frown on you conducting squad-level fire and maneuver on a square range...... :)

fastbolt
April 17, 2004, 07:02 PM
Well, as an instructor I generally want to be highly visible, and generally wear red over black, for high visibility/safety reasons ...

Of course, this might not always be in my best interests, as I sometimes suspect there may be a few folks that might "want" to shoot at me, and the red color might be more helpful to them than some pattern disruptive design ... :scrutiny: :what:

Oh well ... Risk assessment at work ... ;)

jamz
April 17, 2004, 07:04 PM
I almost never see camo at the two ranges I got to frequently. Of course, this IS Massachusetts.

-James

Gewehr98
April 17, 2004, 07:50 PM
Sounds kind of snobbish at first take, but it was in the PRK, and it was a highly-visible range that was always being threatened for closure by those who would label it a haven for gangbangers and militia members. Since it was privately-owned, the rules were fairly easy to enforce. I've also seen that rule enforced at several IPSC matches.

Myself, I don't wear camo off duty, let alone to the firing range. Not that I dislike poseurs and wannabee GI's, but if you have to wear the stuff almost every day for 20 years as your issue uniform, there's no real desire to wear it on your own time. ;)

Kodiak AK
April 17, 2004, 07:52 PM
What Bam Bam said. I also have a old extreme weather parka I use if it is is real cold . Last time I shot it was about -3c with wind chill.

LeonCarr
April 17, 2004, 08:34 PM
I have a funny camo clothing/range story.

Several years ago, about a month before deer season started, a buddy of mine and I met at Carter's Country (a gun store with range attached in Houston, Texas) to sight in our deer rifles. While getting set up to shoot, about two benches down from us there was a guy shooting a Weatherby Mark V .300 Weatherby, and he was wearing full camoflage clothing and a camo doo-rag. Everytime he shot that rifle, this wanna be Rambo would get up and cry and whine about how his shoulder hurt, and did it yelling at the top of his lungs, disturbing the other shooters. The rangemaster called a cease fire, and my buddy and I went down range to change targets. The targets at this range are attached to a large piece of chicken wire with clothespins. After the range was clear and the rangemaster called commence fire, I proceeded to shoot all four of the clothespins holding his paper target on the chicken wire with my heavy barreled Winchester Model 70 .308, and then watched his target fall to the ground. Oh man, you should have heard him cuss :). Was it right? No. Did he shut up right after that? Yes he did.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

JeepDriver
April 17, 2004, 08:44 PM
Nope, either Jeans and a T Shirt or a button down. Don't want to feed into the sterotype the media portrays us as.

Chuck Dye
April 17, 2004, 08:53 PM
Friends, family, and I used to shoot at the Kitchen Creek Rd. open shoot area about 60 miles east of the beach in San Diego county. As the area became more popular, we began avoiding weekends when they were increasingly overrun with shooters who trashed the area and engaged in a variety of unsafe practices. One day I was telling a friend of my sister why we would love to introduce her to shooting but preferred to go on a weekday. It made perfect sense, given the slobs predominant choice of clothing, when my sister dubbed them the "camo cretins." Because of the behavior and the name, the range is the last place I want to be seen wearing camouflage. Irrational? Sure, but I see no reason to change.

Smoke
April 17, 2004, 09:04 PM
Short and a T-sshirt. Jeans in cooler weather. I own a whopping three pieces of camo. One shirt. and two gimme caps.

Don't see much use in camo. Don't care for the "style"

Just me.

Smoke

444
April 17, 2004, 09:09 PM
No.
Years ago I used to buy BDU pants because they were baggy (comfortable, especially when shooting from positions), and they had lots of pockets. Since I discovered Royal Robbins pants, I never went back. They are better made than the cheap knock off BDUs I was buying and actually look better than I normally dress. I normally only wear the RRs to formal training or formal matches where I need to carry a lot of junk on my person.
I have kind of a hangup about people who insist on wearing a "uniform" instead of just wearing normal clothes. For example, people around here have a horse riding "uniform", a ski "uniform" etc. I have a friend that I have varmit hunted with. All the varmint hunting we did was using a spotlight from the truck. No need for concealment at all - we are standing next to a truck with a spotlight. But, since he is hunting, he has to wear his hunting uniform: camo. To me, he looks like an idiot when we stop at an all night diner to eat and he is in head to toe camo. I just wear regular clothes. Jeans and a T-Shirt and coat if required. Nothing specifically designed and built for hunting. When I shoot I wear whatever I had on when I decided to go shooting: usually shorts and a T-Shirt or jeans and a T-Shirt.

Justin
April 17, 2004, 09:37 PM
No.

tc300mag1
April 17, 2004, 09:44 PM
Not me

azrael
April 17, 2004, 09:49 PM
I never wear camo to the range...

I wear work boots, shorts and a t-shirt..thats my normal attire anyway, so that is what I wear to the range...I get tickled at the looks that I get from time to time..lol

I do tend to laugh at the "RANGENINJAS" that go there...They tend to be decked out in black cargo pants and a black t-shirt w/ black ball cap and the obligatory thigh holster for what ever tupperwear pistol they are carrying...talking to there buddy who is dressed likewise and both trying to look tuff...I get the giggles thinking about them...You should have seen the looks I got one day when I showed up at the range wearing a Eyor and Tigger t-shirt..lmaooo

ny32182
April 17, 2004, 10:01 PM
I don't own any camo.

Fair or not, whenever I see someone at the range wearing camo, I automatically assume they are a mall ninja, and give them as wide a berth as possible.

natedog
April 17, 2004, 10:10 PM
I do own camoflauge, but only for instances when things are shooting back (paintball). :D

Reno
April 17, 2004, 10:18 PM
I might be mistaken but I don't think I own any camo anything.

I do have a smiley face do-rag sort of thing that I guess I could use to keep my 1/2" long hair under control if things start getting crazy.

Declaration Day
April 17, 2004, 10:30 PM
I never wear camo to the range, or anywhere else where I feel it is unnecessary. Usually I wear it when I am getting dirty on my hunting land during the summer, because BDUs are cheap and rugged, and I don't care if they get messed up.

Absolut
April 17, 2004, 10:36 PM
jeans or shorts and a t-shirt (preferably white or orange in color)

ny32182
April 17, 2004, 10:40 PM
I played paintball at many different levels, including being on a sponsored tournament team for about a year and a half. I never felt the need to own even a single piece of camo. :scrutiny:

I don't know. Maybe its just a stigma supplied by the media... but hunting is about the only real use I've ever seen for civie owned camo.

Reno
April 17, 2004, 10:46 PM
Unless you're bow hunting, I don't see the reason to wear camo even if you're hunting, at least in my state. During rifle seasons you have to wear so much blinding orange there's no point to even pretending to look like a tree.

M2 Carbine
April 17, 2004, 10:47 PM
Well since the range is in my back yard I wear whatever I happened to put on that morning.:)

I did wear a camo hat today.

Strings
April 17, 2004, 11:08 PM
Well... if I HAPPEN to be wearing camo for some reason, and decide to go shooting, then yes. Of course, I VERY rarely wear the stuff...

Only times I'll actively wear it is paintball or camping. The wife will wear hers regularly, but purplefalge doesn't count... ;)

cracked butt
April 17, 2004, 11:31 PM
Sometimes, especially when its cold outside I'll wear my hunting jacket which is reversible blaze orange/ real tree- I'll wear the real tree on the outside because I don't want to to get the orange dirty or sooty if I can help it- If i'm shooting my hunting rifles, it just makes sense to shoot it wearing the clothes I'll be hunting in.

In spring and fall I'll often times wear a light surplus flectar, alpenflage, or snow pattern camo coat part as functionality and part as conversation pieces.

In summer, its strictly t-shirts, polo shirts and shorts for me.

BluesBear
April 17, 2004, 11:32 PM
I live in Seattle, wearing jeans & a t-shirt IS camouflage. :neener:

I do own some BDC pants in solid colours but I have never owned any camo pattern anything. Everytime I look at all the camo colours offered in the Bradley's catalog it just cracks me up.

thumbtack
April 17, 2004, 11:36 PM
Only on Halloween.

sm
April 18, 2004, 12:02 AM
I was given a camo belt and tiny duffle some 20 yrs ago...only camo I own. I keep the tiny duffle with the stuff for dove hunting, I think I used the belt once to drag game out , and to cinch something to a truck bumper once.

Smoke - you need a belt and bag...they match. :D

PATH
April 18, 2004, 12:45 AM
Camo for turkey hunting. Bright blaze orange vest for when I am on the range. Wanna look military then join up!;) :D

natedog
April 18, 2004, 01:21 AM
Well, in the world of chrome and andonized markers, matching flaming red jerseys, masks with one-way lenses, and cover made out of inertubes, you probably would stand out wearing camoflauge or earthy tones, rather than blending in.

Strings
April 18, 2004, 03:04 AM
nate... WOODS GAMES, Nate... WOODS GAMES. Remember those? THAT'S when I wear the cammies... :rolleyes:

And, mentioning such, and thinking of my wife's favorite set: funny story. We're playing a woods game in early spring: the entire field is green or brown. Janet's running around in a black sweatshirt and purpleflage pants. Guess who the other team always had trouble finding? ;)

George Hill
April 18, 2004, 03:21 AM
If going to the range means shooting pistols... specifically your defensive pistols... you should wear what you normally wear when your packing. Be that Dockers or Jeans or a Suit.
For me that means jeans. Sometimes a sweatshirt, sometimes a bowling shirt, sometimes a sport coat. If you only shoot in BDU's you are not going to be used to where all your stuff is when you have to skin it and you are wearing your normal cloths.

Such practices are untactical.

fjolnirsson
April 18, 2004, 03:54 AM
Well, I pretty much only wear bdu's, unless I have a special reason to be dressed otherwise. I'm very into comfort, and can't beat the price/duability. I've had a few pairs of Royal Robbins, but I prefer the bdu's. Some are camo, some are solid colors. So, sometimes I do wear camo to the range. I don't make a special effort to do so, however.

clubsoda22
April 18, 2004, 06:57 AM
i don't have range cloting, i wear whatever i'd normally be wearing.

Personally, i don't own any camo anything. Guess i'm not a militiasexual.

sebago
April 18, 2004, 07:41 AM
Nope, no camo for me either. Right or wrong it does project a mall ninja image that I want to avoid. I just wear whatever I normally wear on the weekend, jacket, shirt or sweatshirt depends on the time of year and jeans almost always.

SapperLeader
April 18, 2004, 07:59 AM
I wear my regular pants(royal robbins) and make sure Im not wearing too nice of a shirt, grab my guns, and go. I usually dont make a special effort to wear a certain type of attire to the range.

4v50 Gary
April 18, 2004, 10:51 AM
Nope. Don't wanna go anywhere and look like a canteen commando. Be a ninja and disappear among the crowd.

Kamicosmos
April 18, 2004, 11:06 AM
Nope.

ARperson
April 18, 2004, 11:08 AM
Generally no, but on the super cold days I wear my super warm extra thick bibs and parka that the hubby got to keep me warm while deer hunting.

JamisJockey
April 18, 2004, 11:14 AM
My typical uniform of the day when I go shooting is Jeans or some tactical thrift store corduroy pants, and usually a long sleeve tshirt.

armoredman
April 18, 2004, 11:33 AM
Depends on the weather - my favorite light jacket is my DPM from Sportsmans guide - 9 pockets for $9. Got two for the price of one, too, as one didn't quite fit. Yeah, it's camo, but the pattern is quite a bit differant, and some have commented on it. Summer, no, don't have anythig that would work though I thought this one would be perfect - almost looks designer....fromt Trident Militaria. http://www.tridentmilitary.com/index.html
http://www.hunt101.com/img/120943.jpg (http://www.hunt101.com/?p=120943&c=500&z=1)

Skunkabilly
April 18, 2004, 11:48 AM
Yes.

http://www.skunkabilly.com/images/homies/skunkyduckhunt.jpg

Khakis (cargo or not) and a light or medium green or tan short-sleeve buttondown shirt with a disruptive tropical pattern (Hawaiian).

Desert-friendly urban camo :D

tommytrauma
April 18, 2004, 11:53 AM
I don't understand you people. Camo serves a very real tactical purpose, just as firearms do. CCW is predicated on the idea that we don't know when or where we're going to run into trouble. Thus, I strive to be as tactical as possible 24/7. I wear camo BDUs over a carbon fiber tactical thong anytime I'm dressed, and I keep a marpat bathrobe by the bed for the times when the choice is that or untactical pink flesh. (The robe has a custom holster for the Lorcin built in.) A black balcava is my standard headwear, and I ALWAYS move across parking lots, through malls and such in three to five second rushes. Movement is compromised by the trauma plates duct taped to my back, but I'm not clarvoiant, and can't predict when I might need to be able to take multiple .308 hits to the back.

Anyone who calls me a wannabe simply doesn't understand the realities of mall security, or asset protection as we prefer to call it in the business.

The carbon fiber thong does chafe though.



Edited 'cause proof reading ain't tactical.

tommytrauma
April 18, 2004, 11:55 AM
Skunk,
Desert-friendly urban camo

Abbreviated D-FUC? That explains why I keep hearing people say "What D-FUC?" when I walk by.

BlkHawk73
April 18, 2004, 12:09 PM
Same people that nned to wear camo to the gun shows and range meetings I guess. It must give 'em a sence of "machoness". To me personally, it says "hey, I'm a wannabe but must look tough to impress and compensate for my other inadequacies":neener:

MoNsTeR
April 18, 2004, 12:40 PM
I don't even OWN any camo :neener:

DMK
April 18, 2004, 02:03 PM
I don't even OWN any camo LOL! me either.

I usually wear jeans and a bright colored t-shirt or sweatshirt depending on the weather.

I do sometimes wear an OD boonie hat, but only when actually shooting. It looks silly, but it does keep the sun out of my eyes. Someday, I hope we get some cover over my range. :(

yayarx7
April 18, 2004, 04:32 PM
I am with Gewehr98. Why would you choose to wear the stuff if you have to almost all of the time.

I do like to wear my ‘no longer serviceable’ stuff for paintball, yard work, auto maintenance.

Sean T
April 18, 2004, 04:56 PM
Nope. Funny story though.

Back in my fraternity days, we decided to throw a "Military Party." The idea being we would all dress up in camo. It was widely known in the fraternity how into guns I was, they were all surprised when I told them I didn't have any camo clothes. Pretty much everyone else had them :rolleyes: . Although this was in Colorado.

Chris Rhines
April 18, 2004, 05:00 PM
Closest I own is a couple pairs of tan BDU pants.

- Chris

fastbolt
April 18, 2004, 05:00 PM
When I mentioned earlier that I generally wear red over black, I should've said that while I do own a couple pairs of black BDU pants, I most commonly wear black jeans. Personally, I've often found denim jeans to provide excellent "protection" during the normal course of long training day. The black BDU's are sometimes a bit cooler in the summer months, however, and the extra pockets are handy for the usual additional magazines, varied ammunition, screwdrivers, pocketknives and whatnot that are useful down at the "working end" of the range ... ;)

Even I sometimes cringe when one of our regular folks shows up to qualify wearing crisply clean camo clothes, and/or a "too-new" boonie hat. Sometimes it's obviously dedicated "shooting clothing" ... but then sometimes it's also what they may have bought to typically wear while attending dedicated shooting training.

I've always been a proponent of wearing for training & qualification whatever you normally wear for everyday work ... barring wearing your best dress clothes, obviously ... or for any special weather conditions that may exist at the time of the outdoor range training ... and that means the only folks that would commonly arrive to shoot in BDU's of some sort are the special team/unit folks ... you'd think, anyway.

TechBrute
April 18, 2004, 05:52 PM
The sole piece of camo that I own is a snow (or maybe it's urban) camo boonie hat. It's white, grey, and black. It's my camping hat. Can't say that I've ever worn it to the range.

My usual range attire is a pair of cargo pants, along with whatever t-shirt or polo shirt is clean. I have a brown suede pair of Hi-Tec Magnum hikers that I usually wear. Come to think of it, I wear those shoes all weekend, every weekend, range or not. Come to think of it, I wear the cargo pants and t-shirts every weekend, too. Ok, so I just wear my regular clothes to the range. The only thing I do differently is switch out the belt to a Wilderness belt so my Kydex holsters don't mangle my good leather belt.

TheLastBoyScout
April 18, 2004, 06:01 PM
Well lets see, the collection of pants I wear in the field is pretty equally split between jeans and BDUs if various colors/patterns, cause IMHO, they're good outdoor pants. So on any given range trip theres about a 50-50 chance I'm wearing BDU pants. I don't go out of my way to do it though, and I almost never wear a camo top off of the airsoft/paintball field.

TechBrute
April 18, 2004, 06:11 PM
I hear that camo clothing makes you shoot better. If you're wearing an HK embroidered polo, along with some black or urban camo bdu pants, you'll be the best shooter there.

Chewie
April 18, 2004, 06:37 PM
So far it's been easy to sneak up on the paper targets in jeans and a pullover. Once they see me and start running I'll switch to cammo. Most times at the range or gun shows the people in cammos are idiots, and prove it from their own mouths in 10-15 seconds or their attempts at shooting. I prefer not to have people look at me and assume the same.

minnesota oldie
April 18, 2004, 06:45 PM
I had to wear that crap or something like it for 22 years in the military, why would I PAY to wear it now. The wannabes I see wearing it now make me want to puke. If you aren't hunting or have a military id in your pocket then your just a wannabe.:barf:

gulogulo1970
April 18, 2004, 06:54 PM
Wearing camo other than when you are hunting is a little too "bubba" for me.

eddailey
April 18, 2004, 07:20 PM
Never! I don't own any cammo and the only "military" looking piece of equipment I do own is an OD three mag pouch for my AR, which I don't take out if anyones around.

God save us from the gun store commandos!

Ed

Marcus
April 18, 2004, 07:25 PM
Almost never... I have a Swiss Alpenflage jacket (CTD $4 !!!) with lots of pockets that I wear from time to time. That and a pair of $7 camo coveralls I keep in the car in case I have to crawl around under it are the only cammo I have. The Swiss jacket is handy because it was so cheap I can wipe my hands on them if they get dirty etc. :) The range I frequent most is usually deserted when I go so visibility isn`t a big concern. Marcus

sgb
April 18, 2004, 08:09 PM
I wear urban camo, jeans, t-shirt and a ball cap usualy :cool:

Zach S
April 18, 2004, 08:59 PM
Add me to the "urban camo" crowd. Blue or black jeans with a t shirt. I had a couple pairs of black BDU pants though, all those pockets came in handy.

I dont even own any camo.

peoria46
April 18, 2004, 09:55 PM
The idea behind camouflage is to be transparent with your surroundings. Works great in the field. Those who wear it anywhere else, and not receiving an LES every month, probably never received an LES.

Hoop
April 18, 2004, 10:03 PM
Count me among those who don't own any camo. So the answer to the question is no.

Normal range attire:

Weekday days: Office camo. Khakis and polo.
All other times: Urban camo. Cargo shorts, t-shirt, and ball cap.

cracked butt
April 18, 2004, 10:15 PM
Sounds like we have a bunch of "camophobes" here.:D

Gewehr98
April 18, 2004, 10:42 PM
Sounds like we have a bunch of "camophobes" here.
We're not afraid of camouflage clothing, some of us have to wear it every day on duty. Or didn't you read the thread in it's entirety? :scrutiny:

cracked butt
April 18, 2004, 10:43 PM
No offense Gewehr, but notice the little ":D " after my post.

;)

tommytrauma
April 18, 2004, 11:04 PM
Hardly.

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Sounds like we have a bunch of "camophobes" here.
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We're not afraid of camouflage clothing, some of us have to wear it every day on duty. Or didn't you read the thread in it's entirety?

Lighten up, Francis.

Gewehr98
April 18, 2004, 11:33 PM
Lighten up, Francis.

I'm about as happy and easy-going as they come, and I've got the t-shirt (and BDU's) to prove it. In fact, I plan on retiring back in Cheeseland the day after I burn those issued BDU's. So, if you're anywhere near Wisconsin Dells or Portage, you can come on over to my several acres of standing oak and call me "Francis" all you want. Or if you'd like, you can wear camo to that really nice rifle range in Lodi and call me "Francis" there, too. I choose not to wear camouflage off-duty, and it's been explained many times on this thread why people don't wear it to firing ranges. That's not camophobia by a long stretch.

Now, if you have something constructive to add to this thread instead of jumping in and calling people names, I'm all ears.

cracked butt
April 19, 2004, 12:55 AM
Maybe you've ben away from Cheeseland too long.

Where I go shooting, or even where I work for that matter, men and women typically wear camo Field jackets, hats, or camo hooded sweatshirts. Its he type of clothing they wear during the time of year for hunting turkeys, deer, or for splitting wood on saturdays. It has nothing to do with being a "tactical poser" or "military wannabe" but everything to do with working class sensibility- wearing cheap yet very functional clothing for several different purposes.

When I see someone wearing head to toe camo BDU's to shoot their AR I often think that they might have a screw loose, but to tell me I'm a hillbilly or poser for wearing a camoflage jacket to the range is nothing less than bigotry.:rolleyes:

tommytrauma
April 19, 2004, 01:09 AM
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Lighten up, Francis.
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I'm about as happy and easy-going as they come, and I've got the t-shirt (and BDU's) to prove it. In fact, I plan on retiring back in Cheeseland the day after I burn those issued BDU's. So, if you're anywhere near Wisconsin Dells or Portage, you can come on over to my several acres of standing oak and call me "Francis" all you want. Or if you'd like, you can wear camo to that really nice rifle range in Lodi and call me "Francis" there, too. I choose not to wear camouflage off-duty, and it's been explained many times on this thread why people don't wear it to firing ranges. That's not camophobia by a long stretch.

Now, if you have something constructive to add to this thread instead of jumping in and calling people names, I'm all ears.

Guy, you're coming across as pretty tightly wound. I'm sorry you're getting so worked up over this. "Lighten up Francis" is a line out of a movie, uttered by a Drill Sgt when a recruit started acting wound up. The nature of this whole thread is pretty light duty. Relax a bit.

I'm former military. I don't wear BDUs because so many wannabe's do. I'm a firefighter / paramedic. I don't wear uniform T's and such off duty 'cause so many robby rescues do. That doesn't mean that every one who does is a wannabe or a robbie rescue, it's simply an association that I avoid. It's also just not a big deal to me. If i had realized that it was a truely important issue for you, I wouldn't have joked about it around you. Oh, and just to keep the record straight, I never said anything about camophobia. That was a different poster.

Now can we fight about something important like 9mm vs .45, or what rifle Al Pacino used in 'Heat'?

Turkish
April 19, 2004, 02:22 AM
closest i get to wearing camo at the range is my uncles vietnam issue OD button up shirt.its a comfy shirt to wear,has a few pockets thats come in handy,and inside of the left breast pocket is another smaller pocket that is perfect for a pistol cleaning rod(just in case).

Skunkabilly
April 19, 2004, 02:23 AM
Now can we fight about something important like 9mm vs .45, or what rifle Al Pacino used in 'Heat'?

AR vs AK? :)

BluesBear
April 19, 2004, 02:33 AM
Condition Two 1911 vs Glock Safe Action?

BamBam-31
April 19, 2004, 03:43 AM
Can't we all just get along? :D

tcsd1236
April 19, 2004, 07:22 AM
I wear BDUs of various patterns on the range simply because its easier to toss an empty mag into a cargo pocket than a jeans pocket.They are also durable.

JohnBT
April 19, 2004, 10:11 AM
I'd look pretty funny at the range wearing camo chest waders, parka, gloves, and full head and face gear. I guess I could take duck and goose calls and shoot some clays.

John

W Turner
April 19, 2004, 10:12 AM
I own three pairs of camo gear. One hat that was a gimme form my redneck brother, and two pairs of pants one of which is some super-duper/deerstalker pattern and one pair of BDU's in the tiger strip pattern. I have never worn the "hunting" pair and only wear the tiger tripes when I am working on the house or something similar.

I do own two pairs of tan BDU's that I wear to work, but that is because I work at a casual business and can end up on the ground with someone anytime while at work. Besides, wear tucked in polo's and tshirts and they don't look so Bubba, even with the Hi-Tec's and Wilderness belt. :neener: :uhoh:

As for the range, comfort rules, so it is usually jeans or cargo shorts and tshirts depending on weather. I do use a navy two pocket BDU shirt or a 4-pocket tan BDU shirt for cover in IDPA matches.

Mino

Archie
April 19, 2004, 11:23 AM
At the range I usually wear Sears work clothes, which are my normal general purpose outfit. I have a couple sets of khaki and a couple sets of black. Jeans on occasion.

Just as a matter of perspective, in my case "camoflage" is a tie and jacket.

piccolo
April 19, 2004, 11:42 AM
I get really PO'd when i see guys in camo at a range because I've worked my ass off to try and make the sport look a little more repudable.

Cammies at the range give the media just what they want when they try smear Highpower.

A reporter's dream: 12 guys in cammies shooting the rapids.

Reporters are among the dirtiest of dirty rotten bastards.


if 256 people in slacks and decent shirts are shooting, they will INSTANTLY shoot pics of the 1 guy with tobacco stains on his chin and torn cammies.

If I had my way, I'd remove cammies from anyone that showed up at a range and make them walk home stark naked.


NOTE: This does NOT include 'reenactment' shoots, where contestants are in period clothing (WW2, WW1, Civil war, etc)

Any wannabes wanna say anything, bring a BIG torch. My flame suit is ON!

TechBrute
April 19, 2004, 11:56 AM
Any wannabes wanna say anything, bring a BIG torch. My flame suit is ON! So is that chip on your shoulder...

You are guilty of the same thing that anti-gunners are: judging based on looks. You judge them as wannabes because they wear camo, they judge you because you are carrying a gun. Don't try to place the blame on "bubba" for setting the stereotype. It's not bubba's fault. It's the reporters, whom you think so highly of. :D

Sounds like they've put you right where they want you. You are instantly pissed at someone just for wearing camo. And besides, what makes you better than someone wearing camo? I know plenty of people that think those fancy polo shirts or store bought jeans you wear make you a weenie with your head up your rear. Are they right? Are you?

If I had my way, I'd remove cammies from anyone that showed up at a range and make them walk home stark naked. They have entire organizations that if they had their way, they'd remove the guns from anyone that showed up at a range and make them walk home unarmed. Are you lumping yourself in with that type of group, the kind that thinks everyone should be like them?

csmkersh
April 19, 2004, 12:06 PM
I quit sleeping on the ground and wearing BDUs when I retired in '87.

piccolo
April 19, 2004, 12:18 PM
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Any wannabes wanna say anything, bring a BIG torch. My flame suit is ON!
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So is that chip on your shoulder...

You are guilty of the same thing that anti-gunners are: judging based on looks. You judge them as wannabes because they wear camo, they judge you because you are carrying a gun. Don't try to place the blame on "bubba" for setting the stereotype. It's not bubba's fault. It's the reporters, whom you think so highly of.

Sounds like they've put you right where they want you. You are instantly pissed at someone just for wearing camo. And besides, what makes you better than someone wearing camo? I know plenty of people that think those fancy polo shirts or store bought jeans you wear make you a weenie with your head up your rear. Are they right? Are you?


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If I had my way, I'd remove cammies from anyone that showed up at a range and make them walk home stark naked.
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They have entire organizations that if they had their way, they'd remove the guns from anyone that showed up at a range and make them walk home unarmed. Are you lumping yourself in with that type of group, the kind that thinks everyone should be like them?


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I'm simply saying that I'm damned tired of trying to make the sport look good in the media only to have some damned tobacco stained lout of an ignorammus bubba type in cammies that haven't seen a wash in years show up and un do the positive work I've put into the sport.


And do NOT accuse me of having a chip on my shoulder. In this instance I carry none less than the whole damned tree!

TechBrute
April 19, 2004, 12:26 PM
And do NOT accuse me of having a chip on my shoulder. In this instance I carry none less than the whole damned tree! :D LOL!

Guy B. Meredith
April 19, 2004, 01:57 PM
No.

Call me unfasionable. I don't walk around with a cell phone glued to my ear, wear camo or try to make any other sort of fashion or social statement. Just an occassional firearms recreation advertisement. What you see is what you get, no put on, no pretense. May not be pretty, but it is honest.

I see no problem where the camo is hunting gear, worn by Armed Forces members or incidental to being part of a functional garment, but some of the ranges around here do not allow camo lest they end up on the 5:00 news as a militia training ground and a "poster child" for the local antis.

I shoot pagers.

cracked butt
April 19, 2004, 02:25 PM
Hmmm. I wonder if some people here would be ofended if I wore a NRA hat to the range. We all know the steriotypes that the media tries to portray with the NRA. Maybe shooting handguns or military rifles or offensive to some people too.



I'm simply saying that I'm damned tired of trying to make the sport look good in the media only to have some damned tobacco stained lout of an ignorammus bubba type in cammies that haven't seen a wash in years show up and un do the positive work I've put into the sport.

What have you done to make the sport look good in the media? Have you ever been on TV or had your picture in the newspaper shooting? Did they quote you as saying that if you had it your way that only people who look right to you would have the priviledge of shooting?


What other "types" do you find offensive at the range? Men with long hair? Men wearing earings? Do shooters at their range need to have adentist certify that they don't have any teeth missing? If we are going to judge people on looks alone, what about minorities, do you find them offensive?

cracked butt
April 19, 2004, 02:34 PM
If I had my way, I'd remove cammies from anyone that showed up at a range and make them walk home stark naked.

Anyways, I'm off to the pistol range right now. I'm wearing a longsleeve Treebark shirt which happens to be my favorite shooting shirt- its very light and breathable and the longsleeves keep my arms from getting burned from hot brass. If someone is offended by that , they can go piss up a rope.

Bridger
April 19, 2004, 02:51 PM
Most of the camo I own is hunting or paintball related. Two pairs, one woodland, one new pattern tigerstripe, are part of my regular wear. Almost all of my pants are BDU pants, because I like them best. Comfortable, look normal in solid colors, and I like cargo pockets. Even my non-BDU pants have cargo pockets heh.

So yeah, I end up at the range sometimes in camo.

I do get the point about image though, so that's why I wear my "celebrate diversity" shirt with the handguns on it, and the "peace through superior firepower" tshirt with regular non-camo stuff :D

Let people wear what they want, who cares, it just covers up naked flesh in the end. And I don't like polo-shirts, because they are for weenies :p

I don't get the huge fuss about image either. Paintball has had the same thing, with the jerseys and all. But there are still people who consider paintball "the marketing of violence" and there will still be attempts to ban or regulate paintball guns, even the pink and purple ones.

Same thing for the shooting community, it doesn't matter if we show up at the range in a ghillie suit or business suit. Sure the media could say something based on how someone is dressed, but failing that they will just call your AR-15 a machine gun or your scoped bolt gun a sniper rifle.

goalie
April 19, 2004, 02:51 PM
If I had my way, I'd remove cammies from anyone that showed up at a range and make them walk home stark naked.


I don't ever wear them at the range, but ignorant comments like this make me want to go find my duffle bag of utilities that I have somewhere from my time in the Corps. I don't think you'd have good luck removing them either. In fact, I may have to take up wearing my old utilities to the range just because I know it will upset elitist weenies like you. Good job on the stereotyping, you got yourself a convert.

dadman
April 19, 2004, 03:21 PM
Nearest thing to cammo I wear to the range is an OD colored Carhart hooded jacket on cold or cool days, sometimes with a cammo German border guard hat in place of the black FD hat for rainy days.
Have thought of putting on an orange vest when going downrange to change targets.

JW2
April 19, 2004, 03:36 PM
I just wear regular clothes.

Smoke
April 19, 2004, 04:33 PM
Anyone else notice the number of replies that say " I don't wear camo but I wear BDUs/5.11/etc....

Am I the only one that wears jeans anymore?

Smoke - don't have no "tactical" clothes

MagKnightX
April 19, 2004, 04:56 PM
I sure do wear camo. In the colder times of the year, I have an old, beat-up chocolate-chip pattern shirt that I got a while back for a halloween costume that I almost always wear for a jacket, at least when it's a little too warm for my leather jacket. I also, having very long hair, need a hat to keep it out of my eyes when shooting, so I occasionally wear a camo cap. I usually just wear my Beretta clays hat or El Sombrero Del Muerte (a felt fedora/cowboy hat mix named because I'm wierd that way), though.

Besides, I'm a student, and camo jackets are in for us in the grunge/drugless stoner crowd.

My brother sometimes wears a black trenchcoat to the range, though.

roo_ster
April 19, 2004, 05:03 PM
Well, I have a duffle bag full of BDU pants & blouses from when I got out of the Army, as well as a bunch of ugly brown t-shirts. Also several pair of jungle & "leg" boots and two field jackets.

My wife finds the BDU pants ideal for painitng the house interior, not that she wears the pants in the family, mind you. :D

I bought two pair of tan BDU pants when for working 'round the house on the fence, the lawn, etc. Cheap, durable, comfy & lotsa pockets I get to use now that I'm outta the service. In the summer I usually wear a tan boonie hat to keep my scalp from frying, some t-shirt, and an old pair of juncgle boots, in addition to the tan BDUs. In the winter, I pull out my field jacket & liner & wear that, too.

In the summer, if I'm shooting pistolas, I wear a t-shirt and a REALLY FREAKIN' LOUD Hawaiian shirt and shorts or jeans. Jimmy Buffet's got nothin' on me when it comes to wardrobe.


If I had my way, I'd remove cammies from anyone that showed up at a range and make them walk home stark naked.

Ahh, the voice of tolerance, rectitude, and high-mindedness.

I think I may have worn my tan BDU pants to the range, once, as well as the tan boonie hat. I get a lot of use out of my old boots, too. No tocacco stains, however, and the dentition is first-rate. I never felt the desire to wear cammie BDUs out there, but the above statement makes me want to break out the old woodland cammie BDUs and head out to piccolo's neck of the woods. Good luck trying to get them off a (current wt) 290lb powerlifter who just might want to dispute your desires.

Now, if I can only find some cammies not spattered with "Ralph Lauren" interior latex paint...

JesusCow
April 19, 2004, 05:25 PM
sometimes i wear my czech boots that i got from http://www.majorsurplusnsurvival.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=085023&Category_Code=42 for $10

pax
April 19, 2004, 05:29 PM
That's enough.

Folks, you can make your points without insulting each other. Please do so.

pax
Moderator

igor
April 19, 2004, 05:44 PM
Most of my outside work gear is camo or OD, for the obvious reason that that's how the cheap, useful and durable stuff comes. Also, our domestic military reserves' 3-gun competition rules dictate "field-grade" clothing and gear, most recommendably similar to issue stuff... :p but hey, we are the well regulated militia! :D

OTOH, camo pattern clothing is prohibited in the official IPSC rules for all non-active duty military personnel. So, in those circles you wouldn't see much.

Declaration Day
April 19, 2004, 07:06 PM
I have met many different kinds of people in my life. When I was much younger, I thought that the way people dressed, and how much money they had, defined their character.
Now that I am older, I must say that some of the kindest and most generous people I have ever met wear things like camo or old dirty clothes, or have long mangy hair, etc. OTOH some of the people I've met with expensive suits and Mercedes Benzs are absolutely rude, poor mannered, scum of the earth.
Also, it is unfair to say that all militia types are "wannabe GIs". Most of those guys are normal people with families and regular jobs. They don't consider themselves to be soldiers, nor do they wear patches or emblems that would lead anyone to think they are. Very few fit into the "tinfoil" group, but of course those are the ones who attract attention from the media.
I don't give a rat's hiney what the media thinks about me or how I choose to dress, and I sure don't care how people choose to dress at the range. A friendly, law abiding gun owner is just that, no matter how he looks.

MAURICE
April 19, 2004, 08:47 PM
I like a good pair of khaki BDU's for when me and my muds do the redneck skeet shooting...that count? :D Those cargo pockets hold a lot of shells. ;)

BamBam-31
April 20, 2004, 03:38 AM
Amen, Declaration Day, amen.

crewchief
April 20, 2004, 04:37 AM
I wear a tux and top hat when I go to the range, the top hat can double as a rest in a pinch.:neener:

Daniel
April 20, 2004, 05:09 AM
Shirtless and ODs here. Aussie redneck (literally).

swingset
April 20, 2004, 05:37 AM
I wear a viking helmet and a diaper to the range.

igor
April 20, 2004, 05:45 AM
OK, I have to admit... it has happened that I substitute the less fieldable gear with my "Tarzan" outfit which consists of a chamois towel and suspenders. But only on private occasions.

Dorrin79
April 20, 2004, 10:09 AM
*shrug*

I don't own any camoflauge clothing.

If I did, I probably wouldn't wear it to the range - but who cares, really?

You can't enjoy life worrying about what other people think.

cxm
April 20, 2004, 12:40 PM
Does an aloha shirt and lederhosen with jackboots count as cammo?

Chuck

tommytrauma
April 20, 2004, 02:14 PM
Depends on What you Call Cammo
Does an aloha shirt and lederhosen with jackboots count as cammo?

Chuck

Is it weird that that excites me?

piccolo
April 20, 2004, 03:03 PM
I have met many different kinds of people in my life. When I was much younger, I thought that the way people dressed, and how much money they had, defined their character.
Now that I am older, I must say that some of the kindest and most generous people I have ever met wear things like camo or old dirty clothes, or have long mangy hair, etc. OTOH some of the people I've met with expensive suits and Mercedes Benzs are absolutely rude, poor mannered, scum of the earth.
Also, it is unfair to say that all militia types are "wannabe GIs". Most of those guys are normal people with families and regular jobs. They don't consider themselves to be soldiers, nor do they wear patches or emblems that would lead anyone to think they are. Very few fit into the "tinfoil" group, but of course those are the ones who attract attention from the media.
I don't give a rat's hiney what the media thinks about me or how I choose to dress, and I sure don't care how people choose to dress at the range. A friendly, law abiding gun owner is just that, no matter how he looks.



I agree with this 100%.

HOWEVER, when you talk it up at a representative's town meeting and are doing your damndest to appear intelligent, articulate, and well spoken,and seem to be swaying the rep's opinion, or at least moving him in the right direction, the last thing you want is what happened to me.

Some filthy mouthed cammie clad wannabe adds to your speech with ????in'A, buddy! You tell him! We're the ones with the guns an iff'n he tries to take 'em away, I'll kick his ????in' ass yada yada yada.....

Does this mean everyone in cammies at a range is an idiot?

Yes and no. A while back I'd say no. Today I'm not so sure. I'd certainly say that you're certainly NOT doing the sport a favor.

What do I have against cammies? Nothing as such.

But it's as simple as this: When a reporter sees 1 in cammies, he's a guy in cammies. 2 creates a conspiracy, three are a Militia, and hence a juicy opportunity for a scare story on the 5PM News.

Don't believe it?

Right after Tim McVeigh and at the hieght of the 'Militia Conspiracy' scare a few years back, the local TV crew paid a little visit to a CMP match at a local sportsmans club.

Who made the news? The 34 shooters in jeans? Hah! Fat chance!
The 4 idiots dressed like Rambo wannabes.

Insinuations of 'para military training' were made and the club damned near was forced to close the CMP program.

We're at the mercy of the fence sitters as far as RKBA goes. about 20% shoot, 20% are antis and the rest just don't give a damn. The LAST thing we want to do is alienate the 60%.

dwkennedy
April 20, 2004, 03:26 PM
Maybe people should wear street clothes over their camo at the range to avoid problems with anti-camo bigots. Like a pair of cell-phone dockers and a polo shirt over woodland BDUs. Camo for your camo, so to speak.

My own little secret is that under these clothes I'm completely naked!!

Lagadelphia
April 20, 2004, 03:34 PM
I wear a viking helmet and a diaper to the range.

LMAO!!!

I wear regular clothes to the range. I do wish that I could wear BDU's to IPSC matches simply because of the utility of them. I won't wear them(solids) because I don't want to be thought of as a wanna be or something.

piccolo
April 20, 2004, 03:36 PM
My own little secret is that under these clothes I'm completely naked!!


I won't tell, and if you look as bad as the average middle aged guy, YOU CAN'T!!!

TechBrute
April 20, 2004, 03:47 PM
Some filthy mouthed cammie clad wannabe adds to your speech with ????in'A, buddy! You tell him! We're the ones with the guns an iff'n he tries to take 'em away, I'll kick his ????in' ass yada yada yada..... So you're actually irritated at this guy for being an idiot, not for wearing camo. What if the guy was wearing a suit and said that? Would that elicit a different response? What if the guy in camo jumped up and said "hear, hear!! This gentlemen is right on the money and if we don't see desirable results, our votes will reflect it in the next election."

piccolo
April 20, 2004, 03:55 PM
Admittedly, the mouth was the worst of it, but the camo sure didn't help at all.

Fact is, Like I said earlier, we have got to even avoid the APPEARANCE of evil.

Strings
April 20, 2004, 04:55 PM
Oh... you mean like "Campaign Finance Reform" is meant to stop the "appearance" of corruption?

Sorry guys... wear what yopu bloody well want. Me? Can't wait to get my kilt in for IPSC...

Skofnung
April 20, 2004, 05:25 PM
I have never worn camo to the range. I wear it when I hunt, and sometimes when I am involved in working where I get dirty, but otherwise, no.


Come to think of it, I've not seen any HSLD types around here in a few years. Weird. They used to be at the range and at gunshows all the time. Guess they got some better camo.

dwkennedy
April 20, 2004, 05:34 PM
If you want to be persuasive in public forums, then you've got to play by "their" rules. The point is not to exercise your freedom, the point is to swing the vote your way. If you walk in wearing fatigues and a AR-15 slung over your shoulder, you're going to spook the sheeple and they'll not be persuaded by your otherwise reasonable arguments. You don't want CCW laws or zoning board decisions to go against you because you don't look good for the cameras.

I would hope that the range could be a happy place where everyone gets along, regardless of the color(s) of their clothing.

OEF_VET
April 20, 2004, 05:41 PM
The only camo item I wear occassionally is either my DCU blouse or the Russian uniform jacket I picked up in Kosovo. Even those only get worn as windbreakers when it's a bit chilly.

When I was younger, the first time I got out of the Army, I wore my old BDU's once in awhile. Why? Because they were free, courtesy of Uncle Sam and Levi's aren't cheap, especially when you're making $5-6 an hour. If I was doing something that might involve staining my pants, I tended to wear BDU's rather than jeans.

If I did wear my BDU's to the range and some arrogant PITA came up to me and started mouthing off about giving the sport a bad image, I'd quickly tell him where he could stick his attitude. Then I'd point to the BTDT patch on my sleeve and remind him that unless he has one too, he has no right to tell me when and where to wear my old uniforms.

Remember this when you're bad-mouthing people in BDU's: not all of them are Wannabe's, some of those folks have talked the talk AND walked the walk! Some of those folks just happen to like wearing their old BDU pants for whatever reason. If some media numbnuts wants to insinuate that the veteran wearing his former uniform is a nut-job, let him. Any vet will tell you, we don't expect the media to treat us right, they never have and likely never will.

Frank

J. Garand
April 20, 2004, 06:10 PM
Well, now that i have read this entire thread it's off to the range dreesed entirley in camo, with a chew in my mouth.
Why?
Because i am free to do so if i see fit. This is america.
I really never looked or had it cross my mind what people were/are wearing. (I do however sneek a peek thru my spotting scope to see how they are shooting). That will tell you if they're all hat and no cattle.
If someone came up to me on the range freaking out about what i was wearing i would think they were insane. unless they were wearing a viking hat and a diaper.
:)

tommytrauma
April 20, 2004, 06:46 PM
Well, now that i have read this entire thread it's off to the range dreesed entirley in camo, with a chew in my mouth.
Why?
Because i am free to do so if i see fit. This is america.
I really never looked or had it cross my mind what people were/are wearing. (I do however sneek a peek thru my spotting scope to see how they are shooting). That will tell you if they're all hat and no cattle.
If someone came up to me on the range freaking out about what i was wearing i would think they were insane. unless they were wearing a viking hat and a diaper.

So... if they were wearing a viking hat and a diaper, you'd think they WERE sane???
I've GOT to shoot with you sometime. Sounds like an interesting experience.

sendec
April 20, 2004, 06:58 PM
It is all well and good that we express our independence and lack of concern for how we appear to others, but there is something to the concept of image. It is clearly wrong to pass judgement based on a person's appearance, but we do it all the time and have to as sort of a social shorthand. I have to admit that I am prejudiced by suits and ties. I am certain that some people who wear them are great people, but my gut reaction is bad.

I happen to think FWIW that some points made here about image have a certain validity, though they might have been expressed a little more diplomatically. The shooting sports are stereotyped and marginalized by the greater community. If we can do something to counteract that, like the supreme sacrifice of wearing a solid color pair of pants, I'll do it.

Bottom line is that we all wear uniforms, even if it consists of shorts and a tee- shirt. It cannot hurt and can only help our sport and profession if we do not dress like aimless drifters and quiet loners. And yes, i own and wear camo, BDUs, 5.11s, jeans, Dockers, shorts and even occasionally a suit. I keep a couple of old threadbare suit- and sportcoats to wear to the range for practicing presentations from concealment.

Which brings us to the ultimate shooter fashion statement, the Vest of Many Pockets.

Gewehr98
April 20, 2004, 07:05 PM
Nothing illegal about wearing camouflage to the gun range.

But I'd like to ask those who are peeved about camouflage being inappropriate attire for public shooting ranges a simple question.

What do you think about the IPSC rule against such attire, and why do you think IPSC instituted that rule to begin with?

I'd imagine a bunch of squawking and posturing happened when it was first implemented, but the rule still stands. I'd wager the value in keeping the highly visible shooting sport of IPSC from being gutted by stereotypes was worth more than angering potential competitors.

That's a sad commentary of our times, much like the "semi-automatic assault weapon" so often printed in the newspapers. It shouldn't be that way, but it is.

I'm not wired that tight. Stan/Eval tight, maybe, but not too tight, and even this old Flight Evaluator will loosen up in the next couple years. I certainly enjoy freedom of expression just as much as the next guy. That works both ways, though. I wouldn't think of wearing ratty blue jeans and a tank top to a job interview for a well-paying position in a corporate setting, it's just something one doesn't do. Just like I wouldn't give the anti-gunners anything to talk about with respect to camouflage clothing on the firing range. I value the reasons not to wear it more than the value of asserting my right to wear the stuff in public. RKBA folks have to choose their battles carefully in this day and age.

For those who like to run around in their cammies, enjoying the flashbacks after their military service expires, (OEF_VET, I saved the pics Oleg posted) take good care of what you have. There is currently a serious effort (in the Air Force at least) to collect discarded military uniforms and their accouterments, the intent being to destroy them vs. letting them surface at thrift stores or wind up being worn by those who would wage jihad against the Great Satan of the West. Again, another sad commentary of the times. :(

OEF_VET
April 20, 2004, 07:21 PM
For the record, one of the biggest reasons I wear my old BDU's as seldom as I do is because of the perception a lot of people have about shooters and camo. They are in fact, quite comfortable to wear, especially if you're going to be doing any kind of running around.

My biggest point of contention is someone stating that they'd like to see a no-camo-allowed ban where violaters would be stripped and sent home naked. What right does anyone have to tell me or anyone else what they can and cannot wear, simply because of public perception. Just because the leftist media has thrown an ugly stigma on an otherwise harmless piece of clothing, why should we join in their outcry against it?

The liberals and the leftist media seem to believe that flash suppressors, bayonet lugs, collapsible stocks and the like are the tools of evil mass-murderers, hell-bent on shooting up school yards. Do we join with them and say, "You're right, anyone who would go to the range with one of those is just going to give the press footage of an evil mass-murderer, hell-bent on shooting up a schoolyard!"? No, we decry their ill-concieved logic and wait with bated breath for September 14th, 2004, so we can once again buy reasonably priced firearms with those features if we so desire. So, why do some of us decide to join their camp and speak ill of our fellow shooters, when all they are doing is wearing harmless clothes? Am I the only one who sees the parallel here?

Frank

TechBrute
April 20, 2004, 07:31 PM
Maybe if we all wore camo to the range and portrayed ourselves in a good light, then after a while wearing camo wouldn't be a stigma. Ok, so liberals villanize the guy wearing camo at the range. If there was noone wearing camo, who would they villanize? You'd no longer be able to blame bubba for the bad image of gun owners. You'd have to find someone else to blame.

Gewehr98
April 20, 2004, 07:51 PM
That would be a tall order, but perhaps the stereotype could be eliminated. A sharply-pressed set of BDU's conveys professionalism when worn by the military. (I refuse to starch my BDU's, however) No reason why a professional appearance by a well-groomed gunowner wearing camouflage couldn't be used to help dispel the aforementioned stereotype. I feel an Oleg poster coming on... ;)

TechBrute
April 20, 2004, 07:58 PM
starched bdus show up better in night vision, too. :D

csmkersh
April 21, 2004, 02:18 PM
Techbrute wrote:
starched bdus show up better in night vision, too.


Yeah, but they're just worn by REMFs and the Colonel's striker, so what's the loss?

smithandwesson
April 21, 2004, 02:23 PM
I really don't "dress up" to go to the range....usually just wear jeans, T-shirt and my Carhart Jacket.

keyhole
April 21, 2004, 02:28 PM
http://www.bonecreekgunclub.com/iB_html/uploads/post-2-51190-IM001734.JPG


What I wear to the range. Very PI.:D

hso
April 21, 2004, 02:33 PM
Nope

CZ-100
April 21, 2004, 02:35 PM
Every once in a while I like to wear a Como thong....:what:

piccolo
April 21, 2004, 02:41 PM
Keyhole, you shoot highpower?

Pappy John
April 21, 2004, 07:27 PM
I save mine for turkey season.....they fade out fast enough as it is, without wearin' em everywhere else.

Ala Dan
April 21, 2004, 09:31 PM
No "camo" for me at the range; usual dress is
blue jeans and a T-shirt! :cool: :D

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

MinScout
April 21, 2004, 10:49 PM
The only camo I wear is a British field jacket i bought at Fleet Farm for $10.00. It's extremely comfortable and rather more attractive than American-style field jackets.

ShaiVong
May 16, 2004, 10:59 PM
I almost ALWAYS wear woodland camo or digital pants, and I at least bring the jacket with me and the WL boonie cap.

I don't belong to a range; dont have much use for all the rules and regs and cant really justify the money while in school.

I usually go to a local sand pit, alone or with a friend.

BDU's are simply the only cloths i wear that I would be willing to lay down in the dirt with, and thats the reason I bought them. I also wear them whenever i think im going to get stained or oily, or going to play paintball. Theyre tough junk clothing :scrutiny: what else would I wear? :confused:

If I had my way, I'd remove cammies from anyone that showed up at a range and make them walk home stark naked.

Go ahead and try buddy. If you have nice cloths I would salvage them before I buried you. Fascist.

ShaiVong
May 16, 2004, 11:16 PM
O.K. I admit it. I lied. This is what I wear to the range:
http://www.umit.maine.edu/~justin.rose/goleafsgo.jpe


Seriously, here I am looking like a "Militia wacko wannabe" at a Maine Recreational Paintball League reffing class:
http://www.umit.maine.edu/~justin.rose/mallninjajustin.jpg

And one of me getting aced. Very RARE :evil:
http://www.umit.maine.edu/~justin.rose/aced.jpe

Cyberdyne systems
May 17, 2004, 12:32 AM
I do wear a SWISS olive green mountain field jacket that I use as my range jacket when it's cold outside, it blends in with civie clothing very easily since a lot of mens casual cotton jackets are military style these days

It doesnt bother me if someone likes wearing their favorite camo to the range, it's no different than people wearing football or basketball jerseys
of proffessional teams, if a guy wears a San Francisco 49'ers jersey it doesnt mean he use to play for the 49'ers? does it? or if he wears a Sacramento Kings jersey he was on the team?

I just saw a guy today wearing a US NAVY SEAL ball cap and a tie dyed t-shirt on the streets, I doubt he was a real SEAL and I dont care.:)

ShaiVong
May 17, 2004, 12:47 AM
I just saw a guy today wearing a US NAVY SEAL ball cap and a tie dyed t-shirt on the streets, I doubt he was a real SEAL and I dont care.

Heh, my dad was a SEAL but he never wears anything identifying him as such (I think he rather wishes he never was). We were on a dive trip and some dude was wearing a seal hat; My dad yelled "Hey! Is that real or is it just a hat?!" :rolleyes:

I guess it turned out he really was a SEAL and they had a nice chat; who knows? ;)

RevDisk
May 17, 2004, 01:07 AM
Eh. Only 'camo' I ever wear to the range is a jacket given to me by the Finnish Army. Hope someone would have a video camera handy if anyone tried to take it from me.

Aside from that, I usually wear my normal stuff. Jeans, t-shirt, and one of my vests. Tis where I keep all my odds and ends. Smokes, lighters, money/ID/cards, knive/leatherman, book, misc tools, laser pointer, MP3 player, etc


It's never been much of an issue in my mind.

Cyberdyne systems
May 17, 2004, 01:55 AM
years ago some people use to call me "RAMBO" at the range because I
wore black BDU pants and a black tank top and I worked out with weights
alot and had a good physique and I use to shoot a DAEWOO preban K2
really fast....

Gillster
May 17, 2004, 02:35 AM
I have a couple of pairs of light weight BDU pants that were cut into shorts that I wear sometimes. For the one month a year when it's too cold to wear shorts to the range I might wear winter weight BDU's if it rainy/muddy. Uncle Sammy gave me so many pairs, I hate to waste them.

Chris

Russ
May 17, 2004, 10:47 AM
Like Playtheaces said, I prefer Hawaiian shirts. Why do I need to play Army and dress in camo? Unless I'm at work where those shirts are not appropriate, I wear Hawaiian shirts almost exclusively. They give you room to breathe and are most comfortable. If someone were shooting back at me, I guess camo would make sense but otherwise, I don't get it.

When I lived in the PRK, I used to wear Hawaiian shirts to work. I work in the same profession here in KY but they don't get it here. When it is hot and humid, nothing like a nice cotton Hawaiian shirt. Before I left the PRK, I stocked up. I have 20 years worth!

stevelyn
May 17, 2004, 10:55 AM
No military camo since the ones I ETSd with wore out a few years ago. Commercial camo is either ASAT or Predator and is strictly for hunting and have never found a reason to wear it to the range.
My range wear usually consists of a pair of Carhartts or holely jeans, Redskins sweatshirt and baseball cap, and a nearly worn out pair of hiking boots.

Mark whiz
May 17, 2004, 07:17 PM
The LAST time I wore anything camo to the range...................the RO tried to make the range hot when I was still about 20ft out from the firing line! :what:

You shoulda SEEN me jumping & hollering to get everyones attention!

I didn't know a BDU woodland cammo T-Shirt could hide an old 250lb fat man so well. :neener:

Treylis
May 17, 2004, 07:29 PM
No, I dress just like I normally do.

jacketch
May 17, 2004, 07:56 PM
I prefer going naked but that means shooting at night with a supressor.

Range Ninja
May 17, 2004, 08:22 PM
No, I don't wear camo or all black to the range. I think it spooks people who are new to the hobby, sport, etc... Dressing like a tough guy usually just makes others look at you like you're a Rambo wannabe or part of some Columbine type cult, neither of which I want to be associated with.

Strings
May 17, 2004, 11:16 PM
trust me here... just wear a kilt. Make 'em wonder...

Detritus
May 17, 2004, 11:48 PM
trust me here... just wear a kilt. Make 'em wonder...

Been there, done that, :D (had spent first 1/2 of day at a ren-fest)

found out next time i need to make sure i use "deepwoods OFF" a little bit more liberally and in some different places than when i wear jeans or shorts..... range i was at seemed to suffer from waves of some form of small black fly, was not fun.


as to the original question, nope don't wear cammo, did a few times when i was younger but even then it was more a case of "it's what i got clean that AIN'T dress clothes" or "only thin coat i have that i don't mind getting grungy"

i DO occasionally wear one of the two pairs of solid color BDU pants i own out to the range, but again that's a case of "what i had on" (usually after mowing the yard) when i decided to go shoot and I didn't wanna change.

shep854
May 18, 2004, 12:12 AM
Down here in Alabama, a camo garment is common casual and work wear. Military and hunting camo is worn, usually just a shirt or trousers with the other garment non-camo. For example, a camo shirt and jeans or BDU trousers and t-shirt. For this sort of dress, there's no stigma.

For myself, I wear military style garments a lot, because they are comfortable and functional. I draw the line at matching garments, though. I don't have any problem wearing a surplus shirt or pants to the range.

azrael
May 18, 2004, 12:58 AM
I have gotta get me a kilt...NOT one of the red ones, but the kind that Jonathan Davis wore in the video for Freak on a Leash...Be kinda hard to conceal my P-32..hmmm might have to design a "KILT HOLSTER"... I will list the reasons why I should get a kilt below...

reason one....I have the legs for it!!!

reason two....Give the range ninja's something to talk about, while they are comparing there Glock hats and BDU pants w/Glock t-shirt...

Reason three...Gotta be cooler in the summertime in GODS COUNTRY (NC)

Reason four....If I wore one, then not only would I be the best looking and most talented holster maker in NC, (well that lives in Staley..lol) I would also be the best dressed!!

Reason Five....I HAVE THE LEGS FOR IT!!!!!


TheCHIMERA is coming...

gunsmith
May 18, 2004, 03:57 AM
I only wear my camo stuff when I'm not carrying,because of the attn it recieves.

I like the bdu pants,they stay out of bike spokes when riding and carry crap. I own a pair of cammy bdu,Ican't remember if I ever wore them to the range.
I do not care about what other people might think about my clothes,I am really surprised that you guys think so much about fashion...You might think about moving to San Francisco-lots of guys around here you can discuss fashion with
;)

Strings
May 19, 2004, 02:50 AM
Loook into the Utilikilt (www.utilikilt.com). A bit pricey, but VERY well made. And a decent kilt holster would be be that rides on the inner opposite thigh (Galco makes one. If you come up with something, I'd rather have yours). Keep me posted on your design work!

erikm
May 19, 2004, 06:28 AM
On a semi-related question:

Do you see many people at the range you go to fire in business suits? (mirrorshades and thin gloves optional)

Cheers,
ErikM :evil:

tcsd1236
May 20, 2004, 05:48 PM
Loook into the Utilikilt (www.utilikilt.com).
You must be KIDDING. A KILT? On the RANGE? :rolleyes:

TechBrute
May 20, 2004, 05:52 PM
You got some problem with kilts?

tcsd1236
May 20, 2004, 06:29 PM
Its a free country; don't think it'll be my choice in this lifetime though!

azrael
May 20, 2004, 06:43 PM
Kilts are of COURSE a good idea...If you are like me, and have the legs for them...:neener:

Lets play nice mmmkay??

0luke1
May 20, 2004, 07:01 PM
I think it's a good idea to dress neatly and cleanly when going to the range. The camo and hat that says "gun cleaning hat" with the hole in it only feeds our enemies.

TechBrute
May 20, 2004, 07:26 PM
Why do you pander to the weenies that will find a problem with you no matter how you dress. If you wear a business suit to the range, they'll comment that you're such a nut-job that you don't even bother to change before you head to the range straight from work. Get some hair on your legs and stop bowing and scraping to the people that want to tell you how to run your life. These are the people that villanize inanimate objects. They villanize your clothing, they villanize your John Deere hat, they villanize everything about you, and yet you are concerned with what they think. Don't forget, you're the one with the gun. You can play their game if you want, but I've got a pair.

Feanaro
May 20, 2004, 07:43 PM
I don't wear camo anywhere except where it's needed. It isn't any more comfortable than my regular clothes and, whether we like it not, it marks you as a steriotypical crazy gun owner.

41mag
May 20, 2004, 08:20 PM
The only camo I own is also blaze orange.I look like a diseased pumpkin in it.No,I don't wear camo to the range.

Strings
May 20, 2004, 09:12 PM
Funny... guess I'm just a bit different. However, when it was 80+ today, I was glad to be wearing my kilt! I make a rule of not letting other people's opinion decide what I'm going to wear...

shep854
May 20, 2004, 09:37 PM
Feanaro: Howdy, neighbor! I live in Center Point! Is there a good range on our side of B'ham? Someone told me recently that the B'ham PD range would be open to the public; otherwise, I've been ging to the FOP range in Pleasant Grove.

MeekandMild
May 20, 2004, 10:15 PM
Are you kidding? I don't OWN any camoflage except for some faded Realtree stuff my kids gave me.

But if it helps, I'll dab a little doe pee behind my ears. :p

Joey2
May 20, 2004, 10:22 PM
The "tree suits" are in the trunk with the rest of my uniforms. I don't plan on having to wear them again.

JimC
May 21, 2004, 07:05 AM
No.

jamz
May 21, 2004, 07:34 AM
I don't own any camo. I do own a utilikilt though. Usually I go to the range during work, so I am dressed "business casual".

-James

tcsd1236
May 22, 2004, 07:24 AM
They villanize your clothing, they villanize your John Deere hat, they villanize everything about you

The reality is that there are plenty of individuals whose actions feed right into the biases of others. We all have biases on issues, even you. Its a human trait. The reality is that people have biases against unshaven, camo-wearing beer drinking hunters or gun owners in general because there are way too many guys fitting the stereotype whose actions have ruined it for the responsible people out there who might be simply a harmless law abiding person wearing camo while using guns.

TechBrute
May 22, 2004, 09:15 AM
The reality is that there are plenty of individuals whose actions feed right into the biases of others. We all have biases on issues, even you. Its a human trait. The reality is that people have biases against unshaven, camo-wearing beer drinking hunters or gun owners in general because there are way too many guys fitting the stereotype whose actions have ruined it for the responsible people out there who might be simply a harmless law abiding person wearing camo while using guns. That's nice. Anyway, so instead of wearing camo to the range and acting responsibly, we should all avoid camo. Brilliant. If you ask me, we should all go unshaven and in camo to the range, act responsibly and curtious, and overcome the stereotype.

Kragman71
May 22, 2004, 10:03 AM
We have over a thousand members in our Club;so it is comon to see shooters with a piece of camo clothing;like a cap,or jacket. Iwould wear them too,if I had them.
But I just cannot remember ever seeing anyone at the range,fully bedecked in camoflage;except for the Military Men from the nearby Post.
That's OK by Me.
Frank

Herself
May 29, 2004, 03:07 PM
Ummmm....I have been known to wear "cammo" to the range and even to work but it's a violet/black/grey/white T-shirt and when asked, I smile and say, "It's Arts District cammo." Green/brown cammo at the outdoor ranges, no thanks. I see enough examples of lack-of-awareness already. No sense makin' it any easier for the witless to shoot when I'm downrange!

...Black BDU slacks don't seem to get noticed, especially if you remove the cuff ties. I wear 'em pretty much interchangably with jeans. Jean back pockets are better for keeping knives and other tools stashed, at least for me. Darn BDU pockets are too roomy. Either that or I'm too skinny.

--Herself

(Walgreens had some really odd tanktops in like pink/cream/purple cammo with sparkly thread and even worse. I think it's tactical prom wear....):uhoh:

Slotback
May 29, 2004, 07:21 PM
Thanks to the heat and humidity today, my range run was conducted in a t shirt and shorts. Only when it is cool out do I bother to wear camos to the range. I don't really like wearing jeans out there.

Nightspell
May 29, 2004, 10:41 PM
Seen too many whackos in camos at the range; wouldn't want anyone falsely categorizing me as one of them...

Nightspell
May 29, 2004, 10:41 PM
Seen too many whackos in camos at the range; wouldn't want anyone falsely categorizing me as one of them...

entropy
May 30, 2004, 12:46 AM
Geez, I thought I posted on this thread, but I guess not yet! I don't go out of the way to wear or not wear camo shooting, but I shoot in my back yard. I wear my OD M-65 a lot, but that's because I wear my OD M-65 a lot. If were going to a range to shoot, I think jeans and a flannel shirt, plus a weather appropriate jacket if needed. Most of my issue stuff doesn't fit anymore anyhow. :(

Delmar
May 30, 2004, 02:03 AM
Mercy-never would have thought such a question would generate some of the responses I've seen here. Would have thought this was the L&P!
Not a whole lot of sense gettin wound up like a cheap watch over this.

I understand both sides arguements in a way, but you know, I don't go to the range to be photographed by the newsies. I go to have fun.

Back in the sixties, my dad told me, "get a haircut-you look like a hippie communist!"

A few years ago, I got a burr haircut, and my dearly departed wife exclaims, "you look like a terrorist!"


.........need to find some fuzzy pink slippers to go with my fatigues..............

azrael
May 30, 2004, 02:10 AM
.........need to find some fuzzy pink slippers to go with my fatigues..............

True story,
one of my customers/buddies has a pic of me at the range wearing a pair of white bunny slippers, and NOT the liitle ones..these are the ones that you can buy at Wal-Mart...In case you are wandering, yea I wore them to annoy the "NINJA'S" ...My story was simple...You train as you fight!!...I wear these at home NOT combat boots...I might wanna know how they will work if I have to move to cover or use my dreaded Silat skills while wearing them, if I cant get to my weapon!...I thought it was funny...They didnt :D


And yea I did the "THIS IS MY BOOMSTICK!" thing while wearing them as well...:neener:

Strings
May 30, 2004, 03:47 AM
Dave... I can SOOO see you doing it! Question is, were you also wearing your robe?

Me... in case of loud noise, I grab kilt and forget about shoes (I put me mag pouch on the kilt before bed). It's the easiest garment I have to put on...

m.i.sanders
May 30, 2004, 09:16 AM
No camo here. Haven't owned any in years. I wear my regular street clothes, ie. jeans/shorts and whatever shirt. The only time I see camo at my range is when one of the deer hunters is sighting in their rifles before going out.

2nd Amendment
May 30, 2004, 01:39 PM
My main reason for wearing camo is specifically TO fire up those who like to make judgements based on dress. I know the odds are good I make more money and am better educated than the gun-snob with the attitude and if he has the cojones to make an issue of it I can pretty well display his ignorance in three sentences or less. That and it's a simple personal statement against the appeasement mentality that says "OH! Someone might be offended!" Well guess what? They are already offended both by the fact you/we own guns and that you/we exist at all. Trying to keep a low profile just makes them feel like they have accomplished something...and sadly maybe they have.

myopicmouse
June 12, 2004, 09:11 AM
No, for the main reason that most people who do are generally arses. I put on old worn clothes and resist the temptation to wear my realtree coat, however if it's a bad day I will wear it or a army jacket, but theres this one guy on the ranges who wears a french army coat and those highway patrol cop sunglasses ( i hate this guy, he also drives a yellow/lime car, and just is generally...an arse.), so he's just stereotyped cammo for me, as if I put it on i feal 'dirty' :)

entropy
June 12, 2004, 11:22 AM
One person you personally don't like wears camouflage to the range, and and suddenly everyone who does is an 'arse'?!:rolleyes: [sarcasm on] No wonder you bloody micks can't stop killing each other, what with forming instant sweeping generalisations willy-nilly!:uhoh: [/sarcasm off]
There, how do you like it? :barf: The first part of your username sure seems appropriate whatever your eyeglass Rx may be!:neener:

cracked butt
June 12, 2004, 10:04 PM
ntxt

cracked butt
June 12, 2004, 10:04 PM
I shot in a High power match this morning- I purposely put on a camo t-shirt and camo hat. I wasn't the only one wearing camo, and I doubt there was a single person there who cared what others were wearing. Its nice to shoot in a place without clothing snobs.:neener:

PUMC_TomG
June 12, 2004, 10:39 PM
Nope - at least not until I'm told to.

Word has it cammies (or as they call 'em "BDU"s) will be one of the training uniforms for the law enforcement academy.

Yech. :scrutiny:

crewchief
June 12, 2004, 11:10 PM
I wore enough camo in the military thank you very much and I am not prone to wearing any just for sport. Although I do find my old flight suits are great for crawling under the house or working on the cars.:D

PO2Hammer
June 13, 2004, 01:00 AM
Flannel is 'in' this year in Wisconsin and Minnesota.

entropy
June 13, 2004, 01:39 AM
As if there were a year when flannel wasn't in in Minnesota or Wisconsin!:D

Pug Puppy
August 4, 2004, 12:40 PM
In my area, it is somwehat common to see this. Reason: surplus camouflage is as durable as denim, and can be cheaper, too.
It's the economy, not the desire to make a statement, that drives this.

TechBrute
August 4, 2004, 12:42 PM
DIE THREAD!!! DIE!!!

:D:neener:

twoblink
August 4, 2004, 09:39 PM
Hawaiian shirt as well... It livens up the mood.

Warren
August 4, 2004, 10:00 PM
I usually just get naked and spray paint myself in greens and browns.

It works too, because nobody even looks my way when I'm on the range.

Highpower1
August 5, 2004, 01:21 AM
I don't wear camo while shooting.

I shoot twice a week when in town (I work in the personal protection field)

If shooting tactical pistol, I will ALWAYS wear a suit/blazer jacket or a cargo vest(wear the cargo vest when wearing shorts).


We've gotten alot of weird looks when we walk into the range, the range master knowing what we do puts us at the end of the range so we can do the work we've came there to do. I've heard look at the nerds shooting until the start seeing us shoot.

No problem with people wearing camo, just not my practical for me.

cz75bdneos22
August 5, 2004, 03:22 AM
it makes sense then that if you go to the range to (practice)...then one would chose to wear the clothes you would normaly be in..like a suit, (work) camo, if you hunt, or are an armed forces member.,.whatever your situation calls for.

:neener:

Spieler
August 5, 2004, 06:36 PM
The only camo I wear to the range is my Gortex parka if it's raining - but intentionally wearing camo out in public, other than as a duty uniform, is something I outgrew when I was a teenager.

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