[Lightsped]

I have not seen the Punisher movie yet, but how are the gun scenes? What kind of guns are shown in this movie?

[Lone Star]

All I know is that it features Rebecca Romijn-Stamos, so it can't be ALL bad.
It has guns, too? :D

Lone Star

[yesterdaysyouth]

guns, knives, mines... you name it...

i guess his main guns are the 1911's and SxS shotguns...

[Lightsped]

Are the shootouts any good? Is it even alittle realistic?

[Justin]

Gun handling was ok, but not stellar, nor was the movie as gun-heavy as I was expecting.

The guns are nothing really exotic, for the most part the film features a pair of comped 1911's, a chopped down SxS, and an M4 carbine/M203 grenade launcher. A hard-chromed Glock does make a short cameo, but is never actually used. Oh, and the scene with the revovler will just make you cringe. (Not gonna give it away, but it ain't pretty.)

The gunfights aren't John Woo over-the-top, nor are they fantastically choreographed like in Heat or WOTG.

[Harry Tuttle]

that Punisher is just not big enough to be Frank Castle

i remember the first appearance of Frank Castle:
http://www.cgccomics.com/gallery/details.asp?IDComic=669

[raz-0]

the punisher has been rewritten a couple times.

The movie was fairly faithful to the garth ennis welcome back frank storyline.

Except for lacking the slicked back hair, Thomas Jane wasn't too bad a fit for the current rendeition of the punisher.

http://www.cgccomics.com/gallery/details.asp?IDComic=1043

[Nando Aqui]

I wasn't impressed.

Best part was when 'The Punisher' throws a grenade at the Russian executioner, and the Russian just 'bats' it right back at Frank.

Besides, the movie was a total, and I mean total, waste of Rebecca Romijin-Stamos in every sense.

Wait and rent it.

[DeputyVaughn]

I thought the final scene was the best John Revolta ever did. It was type casting.....He plays a wannabee thug type who turns out to be a total weiner. I almost didn't bother knowing he was in it.

Scott

[jpthegeek]

Big fan of the comic so I was not that impressed. Spent too much time developing the bad guys and not enough time on the story itself. Kinda reminded me of Red Heat, Raw Deal or any one of those 80's action flicks.

This Punisher was too nice and definitely too sane.

His 1911's looked neat but there was a shot that showed the compensator misaligned. Kinda strange. Almost as if they clamped them on for the scene. Nice AR though.

[raz-0]

is 1911's looked neat but there was a shot that showed the compensator misaligned. Kinda strange. Almost as if they clamped them on for the scene. Nice AR though.

If you are talking about the scene after tossing the guys money... It looked to me like one of the 1911s didn't fully return to battery, but wasn't slide locked. maybe a FTF/FTE.

[blackrazor]

knowing the 1911, I'd say it's just another FTE, wouldn't be the first time.

[raz-0]

well heck, name me a gun that hasn't had an FTE. There isn't one (heck, even bolt actions occasionally only make it out with the case head). Feed something blanks, and it gets even worse.

[blackrazor]

HKP7:D

[Correia]

blackrazor, I've seen a P7 jam. So nya. :) If you haven't seen a particular type of gun malfunction, you just haven't shot it enough.

[blackrazor]

Yeah yeah, I know... I'm just funnin' ya. Can't help it but slam the 1911 now and then, but don't want to get too off topic. Speaking of 80's movies, has anyone seen the 80's Punisher? How does this one compare? Has Dolf been outdone?

[jdkelly]

that Punisher is just not big enough to be Frank Castle


Yea, he reminded me of Oswald from the Drew Carey show, acting bad.
(pun intended)

jdkelly

[WarMachine]

Here are a few that I can recall:

Twin Custom Colt 1911s
Micro Uzi
Intratec Tec-9
M4 Carbine with optical sight
Compound Bow
Sig-Sauer 220ST or 226ST
Fragmentation Grenade/Baseball :D
Several shotguns

[MAKOwner]

I thought the movie was pretty sweet, and I liked how Castle handled the guns. It didn't have as much action as I was really hoping for though. But I guess it would get all John Woo on me if was like most other hollywood action movies (I hate John Woo garbage). I thought this was pretty well done overall, I hope they make another...

Oh and I liked this actor as Castle, liked him in Deep Blue Sea too...

[HMMurdock]

Anyone know what kind of compensators he had on his 1911s? I haven't seen ones like that before...

Crappy movie, but sexy 1911s...

P.S.- Sorry to revive such an old and seemingly dead post..

[jahwarrior]

i liked that he used an emerson karambit; it was when he took out the whole gang, near the end of the movie. that's about all i liked.

[Jdude]

As a long standing punisher fan, the movie was bad. Really bad. Just another bland hollywood 'origin story' that they hoped could be milked for a few dollars.

I was expecting a hour and a half shoot them up, instead of a bastardation of "Welcome back Frank"

[armoredman]

Tried watching the Dolph Lundgren Punisher, quit half way through, most predictably boring movie I had ever watched. So, this one is worse?

[Dravur]

I have the ASM 129 first appearance of Da Punisher. It's kind of funny, dude with a gun tries tio whack Spidey. Almost gets him.

The 5 issue mini series is what really brings out the Punisher we all know and love.

[hankdatank1362]

Just search the net for any full-profile compensators.

[Zach S]

that Punisher is just not big enough to be Frank Castle

i remember the first appearance of Frank Castle:
I dont pay much attention the the character's build when they go from the comic to the big screen.

Most of the male characters are around 6'4" are solid muscle, and weigh 230lbs or more (Batman, The Punisher, Wolverine, etc). Most of the ladies are also tall, have D cups, small waists, nice hips and killer legs (Storm, Rouge, wonderwoman, etc)

The only reason Spiderman was 175lbs (of solid muscle) is because his alter ego was a bookworm. And he seemed to get bigger when in costume compared to when he was in street clothes...

[The Hound]

Wolverine is actually the opposite. His character in the comics is much smaller than Hugh Jackman. Wolvie in the comics in just over 5' ft tall. While Jackman in around 6' ft.

[lloydkristmas]

The guns are nothing really exotic, for the most part the film features a pair of comped 1911's, a chopped down SxS, and an M4 carbine/M203 grenade launcher. A hard-chromed Glock does make a short cameo, but is never actually used. Oh, and the scene with the revovler will just make you cringe. (Not gonna give it away, but it ain't pretty.)

I dont remember a scene with a revolver....?

[MikePGS]

The movie is one of only a few (Queen Of The Damned, The Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Rings [i fell asleep]) that i can recall walking out of at the theater. Though to be fair, its because i fell asleep during it. It wasn't that great in my opinion. On the other hand, at some point during the mid 90's Marvel released a series of comics called "Punisher Armory" which were just that, a list of every gun he used, and some that he hadn't with brief commentaries on them from the perspective of Frank Castle. Those were real fun for me to read when i was around 12 or so, but i'm not sure if i have any left.

[bluestarlizzard]

"Wolverine is actually the opposite. His character in the comics is much smaller than Hugh Jackman. Wolvie in the comics in just over 5' ft tall. While Jackman in around 6' ft."

while the comic wolverine was shorter then hugh jackman, he had a LOT more mass.
as for the punisher with tomas jane, not the best of the newer comic book movie, but not the worst either. if your looking for the worst check out "the hulk" with eric banna :barf:

[Crow1108]

Personally, I thought it was ALOT better than the earlier one with Dolph Lungren. Still could've used some work though. Dual wielding with accurate shot placement is a bit too over-the-top for me.

[jerkyman45]

I watched this movie with some friends last year, and I noticed something I hadn't noticed before. When Roy Scheider is showing Tom Jane his handguns, in the glass case below the two 1911s is a revolver. I jumped up in the middle of the movie, told my friend to pause it, and low and behold I was right about what I saw. In the case was a LeMat revolver. Sadly he never used it, but it still showed up in the movie.

Other than that I think pretty much everything used has been mentioned.

[FireArmFan]

For anyone interested, there is another punisher movie coming out in '08. Thomas Jane is not playing Frank Castle and it's not supposed to be a sequel I guess.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0450314/

[VirgilCaine]

Tried watching the Dolph Lundgren Punisher, quit half way through, most predictably boring movie I had ever watched. So, this one is worse?


Uh, action movies are supposed to be predictable, I thought?

Anyway, I've read some Punisher comics and saw the 1988 movie and was not impressed with the 2004 movie.

The Punisher does not manipulate his enemies into killing each other.

He obliterates them. He goes in with body armor, Serbu Super Shortys, Uzis, and grenades and blows the hell out of "human garbage".

The interaction with the other apartment dwellers has...been done in other movies about psychotic violent people, the drawing him out of his shell, humanizing him again...same old stuff.

The Punisher of 2004 wasn't necessarily a bad movie--but it wasn't the Punisher, not by a long shot.

[Sawyer]

Ray Stevenson (Titus Pullo from HBO's Rome series) is the new Punisher, he looks much more like the character than Thomas Jane.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u252/TheBraxcave/ray.jpg

[VirgilCaine]

I looked him up on the IMDB page above. He's a much better match for Frank Castle than Jane was.

What's that picture from?

[Sawyer]

it's from a movie called Outpost. The new Punisher movie has Wayne Knight (Newman from Seinfeld) as his sidekick Microchip, also Julie Benz (Darla from Angel) is in it.

[VirgilCaine]

Outpost looks cooooool.

[Zach S]

Wolverine is actually the opposite. His character in the comics is much smaller than Hugh Jackman. Wolvie in the comics in just over 5' ft tall. While Jackman in around 6' ft.True, I havent looked in a comic book in a long time so that slipped my mind. But judging by his build, wolverine could still change a tire on a car alone without a jack.

[The Hound]

Yeah, I was just referring to his height.

[Eric F]

Just some stuff not really on track but any way the road runners(mach up satellites) used in the 04 movie were all on ebay about 5 months after the movie was released I bid on all of them but kept loosing. One guy beat me by $1.........jerk!

[Correia]

Titus Pullo rocks!

Actually Ray Stevenson is about perfect casting for Frank Castle. I've never heard him speak with an American accent, but he's a great actor, and nobody plays thuggish intensity better.

[Sawyer]

first image from the movie, Stevenson looks a bit Steven Seagal-ish, but impressive.
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4288/raystevensonasthepunishaf6.jpg

[Wasz]

Slicked back hair from the Ennis books. Hence the Segalish look.

[blackhawk2000]

That looks like crap. He is bladed to his target exposing the weak points in his body armor. There are no backup iron sights on the rifle, and Cmore sights suck. Looks like he is shooting with 1 eye closed. Cross draw holsters make it easier for your opponent to grab. I have idea what that monstrosity is mounted to the rifle. But he is wearing the skull.

As a big time Punisher fan, I don't want to be dissapointed again. Frank Castle is too highly trained to come off looking like a poorly trained hollywood actor, running around with drug induced prop man fantasies.

[Justin]

I used to love The Punisher. Somewhere, stashed in a bunch of boxes are tons of back issues of "The Punisher" "Punisher War Zone" and "Punisher War Journal" along with a few of the one-shots and Armory publications.

I watched the 2004 Punisher movie in the hopes of reliving what I liked about the comic books.

But in the intervening years, as my views changed, I found the 2004 movie was unenjoyable, above and beyond the film itself.

I just realized why:

The Punisher is just another lame prohibitionist.

Carrie A. Nation with an M-16 instead of a hatchet.