UMC 223 vs.M193
Byron
February 7, 2003, 09:25 AM
Does anyone know if the 55 grain FMJ in the UMC ammo is the same quality as the 55 grain FMJ in US Military M193?
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greyeyezz
February 7, 2003, 10:02 AM
m193 has higher velocity and neck, primer sealant, speed kills. Umc is alright for blasting.
Art Eatman
February 7, 2003, 10:24 AM
greyeyzz, is that from "just reading", or from chronograph comparisons?
(Grumble, grumble...Gonna get me a danged chronograph...)
:), Art
Byron
February 7, 2003, 11:09 AM
Art, it actually comes from experience. I was a grunt with the 4th INF DIV 1n 1968 and know full well the devistation of the M193.I have access to a supply of UMC and was wondering if the bullets were the same. I know that some ammo that is 55 grain FMJ will not react as the 55 grain FMJ in the M193. Thanks, Byron
Art Eatman
February 7, 2003, 02:44 PM
Hokay. It's just that bullet design has as much--if not more--effect on wound/kill/ruination as does velocity. A bullet design that tumbles and readily fragments doesn't necessarily have to be going faster than a bullet which is designed to hold together better...
Art
Poodleshooter
February 7, 2003, 03:40 PM
M193 (Winchesters Q3131A) runs about 3250 from a 20" AR. I bought some UMC back during the whole sniper thing just for the perversity of watching the clerks jaws drop when I asked for some .223. I'll run it through the Chrony and see how quick it moves.
Bullet construction is the big variable. These remingtons are cannelured, but I haven't sectioned one. If you section one, I might be able to find a Winchester component bullet to section for comparison. PM me if interested.
greyeyezz
February 8, 2003, 03:36 AM
The ammo oracle shall shed light on thee
http://www.ammo-oracle.com/
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