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RainDodger
April 15, 2015, 01:32 PM
Ok, everyone... at least this is in the "General Gun Discussions" section.

I have a question and someone needs to enlighten me. I don't mean anything by it, and I certainly don't mean to come down on anyone. After all, everyone has an opinion.

Why is it that some people feel the need to list all of their owned firearms in their signature? Why would anyone want to call attention to something like that? Personally, I don't even mention my ownership of anything resembling a weapon to anyone that's not already aware of my hobby. I just don't get it.

I do display an NRA Life Member sticker on the back window of my personal vehicle, but that's my concession to stating my view of our 2nd amendment right. I know it is perhaps targeting my vehicle, but it's a chance I take. I don't put one on other family vehicles driven by other family members. Listing a whole bunch of weapons even on a web site like this one, doesn't make sense to me.

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ku4hx
April 15, 2015, 01:36 PM
The way I see it, it adds distinction sort of like your being a handloader for 46 years and a former Navy pilot. I also ask the same type question about tattoos and body piercing, but it comes down to personal preference and what you'd like to say about yourself. And ... why not? As long as you break no laws, rules or regulations and feel comfortable with your signature, well ... it is yours after all.

xxjumbojimboxx
April 15, 2015, 01:49 PM
I used to when I first started shooting. Gave up on it pretty quick because the list started getting too long. I was just proud of what I had accumulated.

tyeo098
April 15, 2015, 01:57 PM
What makes you think thats all of them?
I can't list all mine as I'd exceed the character limit.

1KPerDay
April 15, 2015, 01:59 PM
Gigantic signatures bug me but only because it's annoying to read/skip through them. I've left forums before because they had no restrictions on Avatar size or signature content/length and you couldn't turn them off. People would put 12 full-size pictures of their motorcycles or dogs or whatever and 15 "pithy" quotes. It gets old.

In general I think the sigs here are pretty well under control, like everything else.

Neo-Luddite
April 15, 2015, 01:59 PM
I feel fairly free to discuss things on THR that I wouldn't share so widely in the non-cyber world. That's probably the attraction to share and brag a bit here. ANd no, I don't list my guns in my signature, but it seems fine to me if someone does here. After all, I can be honest here without worrying that someone will follow me (or a family member) home. I wouldn't, say, go to a bar up town and talk about what kinds of guns I own. That's how bad things happens, tales told, and no goodnicks and meth heads prick up their ears for the easy pickings. I don't make my 'real' name very much public knowledge here and that provides a bit of security. Of course if someone dug a bit I'm sure that I've "outed" myself by name a few times in my posts. I do have NRA stuff in/on my car, but as said above, not on the other family vehicles.

0to60
April 15, 2015, 02:08 PM
Its very common in a hobby-related forum for people to include "accomplishments" in their sig file. On the weighlifting forum, you'll see stuff like "Deadlift: 550, Bench: 425, Squat 525". On a performance car forum, you'll see "1/4: 11.95 @ 119mph".

If someone is proud of something, a sig file is a harmless (and informative) way of showing it.

DeepSouth
April 15, 2015, 02:26 PM
Why is it that some people feel the need to list all of their owned firearms in their signature? Why would anyone want to call attention to something like that?

Question 1:
Because they're proud of owning them.

Question 2:
Same answer as question 1, but I'll add they aren't concerned about the information being public info... Right or wrong, it's their call

I will add, while I don't list my guns in my sig and never would you could easily search my replies and make your own list of what I have. Is their really that big of a difference.



I make my signature multi colored so it's easier for me to find my posts:)

MedWheeler
April 15, 2015, 02:35 PM
I don't think any of them "feel the need."

None of us needs to be here, or be posting/participating here. We do so because we enjoy it, so we want to.

Is this thread actually about whether or not it's wise? Then maybe that's how it should have been worded. Maybe some of those doing so feel safe in both the anonymity of their user names, and of the topic-focused nature of this forum. In all likelihood, they're not also listing them on bumper stickers affixed to their cars.

Otherwise, to each their own quirks..

Hammer059
April 15, 2015, 03:31 PM
RainDodger, I've wondered the same thing myself.

Just like when someone will start a "what should I get?" thread, and some people use it an a convenient excuse to post multiple pictures of every single gun they own.

Because what's the point of owning guns if you can't let the internet see and know about all of them?

It's like the people that use social media to constantly post pictures and make sure everyone else knows how much fun they're having. Hmmm….

MilsurpShooter
April 15, 2015, 03:50 PM
On the other hand, could be more of a "I know what I'm talking about" type of thing. For instance if I were to list my Surplus rifles and chime in on a 91/30, SKS, or Springfield Trapdoor post and have one of those in my list, might add a bit more credibility to the advice.

I'd never add them into my signature personally but if I'm giving someone advice I'll make mention of if I own the firearm in question or if I've done the same thing on one of my own.

RainDodger
April 15, 2015, 05:21 PM
Lots of interesting takes on this. Just because someone lists a particular brand/model though, I wouldn't assume he/she knows anything about it. Call me cynical also, but I don't believe half of the lists I see anyway! It's kind of like talking the talk and walking the walk, if you know what I mean. I'll trust the guy that talks sense over the guy that has the mile long list of stuff. :)

In the end though, we can all do what we want!

Sol
April 15, 2015, 05:44 PM
You know, I haven really visited many forums, but if I did I would expect to see siglines like this:

car forum:
1969 mustang Mach 1, 429 CJ, Q code, Headman headers, holley carburator, k&n airfilter etc.

Cooking forum
KitchenAide stand Mixer, Fisher and Pykal convection oven, general electric hood range, oxo tools, Hobart deep fryer and slicer.

Dog forum:
German Shephard, 122 pounds, 33 inches at the withers, sired by King Bruces Last Dominion. RIP Fluffy.

Horse forum:
3 Arabians and 2 clydesdales, champion bloodlines....I'm a crazy person...
Visit me and my horse children at www.blahblahblah.com

no offense to sane horse people..

I think it's just a list of accomplishments of a certain hobby.

Jim Watson
April 15, 2015, 05:53 PM
One board, the Gun Broker talk side, I see "signatures" longer than any message. Multiple allegedly pertinent quotations, pictures, yak, yak, yak. Silly.

In the same vein, when I first internetted at an advanced age, I didn't know I was supposed to come up with a cute CB type handle and just posted stuff under my real name. Think of all the fun I have missed out on.

bikerdoc
April 15, 2015, 05:58 PM
You'al realize you can edit you user profile in the thread display section and turn off seeing sig lines.

Sol
April 15, 2015, 06:00 PM
I'm going to make a sigline now too.

Maybe something about Liberties teeth or patriots blood and a freedom tree.

Hammer059
April 15, 2015, 06:10 PM
I like seeing sig lines, especially if they're humorous or interesting quotes. I've seen some pretty good ones on this forum, they far outnumber the boring ones.

orionengnr
April 15, 2015, 06:10 PM
I call it Twitter/FaceBook syndrome.

Many people "of a certain age" believe that the world reallllllly needs to know everything about them, their lives, their habits, their possessions and the most mundane details of their lives.

Examples of these incessant and intentional self-exposures can be somewhat comical, or somewhat sad...but they are never-ending.

newfalguy101
April 15, 2015, 06:11 PM
why do you care??

If you don't want to list what you own....................don't

Pretty simple really....

leadcounsel
April 15, 2015, 09:18 PM
Nothing to add, just wanted to post my sig line.

Delford
April 15, 2015, 09:52 PM
Leadcounsel:
From your sig line I surmise you may have been stationed at Ft. Lewis or the joint forces base. It appears you have served your country well and conducted yourself in a dignified and professional manner. Thank you for your service. Nice sig line too.

chicharrones
April 15, 2015, 10:16 PM
I'm merely annoyed at sig lines that take up a lot of vertical space when the info could be kept shorter vertically by going horizontally.

Why? More replies can fit on one page which makes me wade through less vertical space of sigs I've already read before.

For instance:
Ruger, S&W, Colt, CZ, H&K, FN, Marlin, Winchester, Savage, Mil-Surp

vs.

Ruger
S&W
Colt
CZ
H&K
FN
Marlin
Winchester
Savage
Mil-Surp

leadcounsel
April 16, 2015, 01:17 AM
I'm merely annoyed at sig lines that take up a lot of vertical space when the info could be kept shorter vertically by going horizontally.

Why? More replies can fit on one page which makes me wade through less vertical space of sigs I've already read before.

For instance:
Ruger, S&W, Colt, CZ, H&K, FN, Marlin, Winchester, Savage, Mil-Surp

vs.

Ruger
S&W
Colt
CZ
H&K
FN
Marlin
Winchester
Savage
Mil-Surp
And yet - you did exactly what annoys you to prove a point. Which is funny and ironic...


On point - let people boast a little... unlike show horses or muscle cars or fancy suits/watches/shoes etc. it's hard for folks to show off our "guns" due generally to legal reasons... So, a sig line with guns makes people feel good. And why are others always trying to prevent someone else from feeling good?

chicharrones
April 16, 2015, 07:51 AM
:D
Yep, I annoyed myself just typing that.

roadchoad
April 16, 2015, 08:10 AM
I find it helpful. Suppose I am interested in a certain gun or need advice on parts/repair. If I see that someone has one in their sig, I can send a PM to them to get info straight from the horse's mouth, rather than start a thread where anyone with or without experience with that firearm can participate.

Now on a couple fishing forums, myself and many others use it as a brag board. If someone sees another with a high catch rate of a certain species, a discussion usually follows.

Midwest
April 16, 2015, 08:15 AM
I use my signature to highlight the absurdity and the low intelligence of the anti-gun politicians.
.

OilyPablo
April 16, 2015, 08:20 AM
Why is it that some people feel the need to list all of their owned firearms in their signature? Why would anyone want to call attention to something like that? Personally, I don't even mention my ownership of anything resembling a weapon to anyone that's not already aware of my hobby. I just don't get it.

Yet you post here.

I do display an NRA Life Member sticker on the back window of my personal vehicle

Gun thieves know you have guns. Mentioning or listing the guns you have.......makes no difference. 99.9% of area thieves don't care what gun models you own.

Thermactor
April 16, 2015, 08:50 AM
Yeah I'm guilty of the NRA sticker too. But I don't bother mentioning all my guns even in discussions, much less in signatures.

More annoying is in car forums when people list all of their cars that they own, have sold, or even those that belong to extended family. Ugggggg. Imagine doing that with firearms! It might look like this:

==
Regards, Gun Nut
Kimber 1911 (sold)
Hi-Point 380 (CCW)
Smith & Wesson 642 (Hers)
Savage 22 Rifle
Henry Lever Action (Deer hunting)
Llama 1911 (Dad's, sold)
Glock 26 (Traded)
Sig P220 (I wish I had one)
HK P7M8 (I wish I had one of these too!)
Colt LE6920 AR-15 (truck gun)
Mosin Nagant M44 (precision sniper rifle)
Other gun
Other gun
Opinion on a gun
other gun
---

etc. that would take up half a page. That would get a person on the ignore list right quick.

bannockburn
April 16, 2015, 08:56 AM
Not really interested in posting a list of all my guns in my sig line; I would rather take a nice photo of them and post it at when I feel it adds something to the conversation. Have only had two sig lines so far, have a couple more in mind for use at some future date.

DHJenkins
April 16, 2015, 10:00 AM
Pride, of course.

I don't do it (in a sig or post) because I almost never post specific personal info online. It's the same reason I'm not on facebook, twitter, etc... After all, what's the point of being against government surveillance or a national firearm database if you're just going to volunteer that same info on platform the whole world has access to?

OilyPablo
April 16, 2015, 10:03 AM
So how many post on THR that DON'T own guns?

Nom de Forum
April 16, 2015, 10:53 AM
I like all the different types of signature line because they provide varying degrees of insight about the members making them and the diversity of THR membership.

I do not like signature lines that are political insults. They do not weaken the member's opponents or strengthen their allies, but they can alienate those who are neutral to the point of becoming an opponent.

My signature line serves two purposes. Primarily it is my hope it sets an example of monetarily contributing to organizations defending the RKBA that members and guests who do not will decide to emulate. Secondarily it is to inform Conservatives that people who are not Conservatives also put their money where there mouth is to support the defense of Second Amendment Rights.

Oldman1151
April 16, 2015, 01:58 PM
I think some use the signature option to brag. Others try to make themselves look like someone they are not. Then again I do not always believe all signatures to be 100 % truthful. Kudos to those that are honest with the message they send in the signature.

Garrobo
April 16, 2015, 03:17 PM
an auction, I was the proud owner of 72 rifles (69 center fire and three muzzle-loaders), two shotguns and 23 pistols and revolvers. Way too much information involved.

Andy2
April 16, 2015, 07:32 PM
I like my signature, because I am proud of my service.
As for listing guns, not for me on a signature, but I would be more than happy to post a comment or picture about a gun I own, if it adds to the discussion.
Andy

Tirod
April 17, 2015, 07:41 AM
You get at least two kinds of sig lines - property, which brags about what someone owns, and credentials, which brags about what someone has accomplished in the way of life goals.

It's still bragging about who you are. Some say it's "pride," which could be an interesting discussion of what constitutes propping up one's self esteem and what isn't.

We see it in daily life all the time, bumperstickers were already mentioned. Then there's wearing clothing with obvious Branding.

Which means that some people don't have any concern at all with broadcasting what they own, or who they are, and sometimes do it as their first line of defense. Putting up the front, so to speak.

Others attempt to reduce their signature and play the grey man. It's hard to play whack a mole when the mole never sticks up out of his hole.

The difficulty comes from those who depend on all the cred and certs up front, especially when they read something different from their understanding. They see it as something to immediately challenge, or accept without any reservations.

Just because some don't have fancy icons and lengthy sig lines doesn't mean they don't know squat. And just because they do doesn't mean much either. Any credit card can buy a high profile tactical sig line. And, that old duffer in a shawl collar sweater might be packing more heat than you think. Malls are like that. So are forums.

Which is why sig lines mean nothing other than to embellish someone on-line for their own satisfaction. Not everyone plays that game.

DoubleMag
April 17, 2015, 08:47 AM
Signature lines? who needs that? :)

460Kodiak
April 17, 2015, 09:02 AM
I always assumed folks who list the guns they own in their signature lines were using it as a way to let others on the forum know what guns they have direct,first hand experience with, and thus, if you have a question about any of those particular guns, you could pm them. It sort of seems like a statement of your knowledge base, though owning a particular gun doesn't necessarily indicate a sound knowledge or understanding of that firearm.

Of course, some people are materialistic too, and just want to boast about their collection.

Nom de Forum
April 17, 2015, 10:36 AM
Which is why sig lines mean nothing other than to embellish someone on-line for their own satisfaction.

Cynical much? It has been my experience that all encompassing judgements such as above are rarely accurate in explaining a particular human behavior. As Freud supposedly said, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar".

OilyPablo
April 17, 2015, 10:53 AM
Not at all sure what my sig line means about me. But if you guys analyze it I'm sure it will be a life changing discovery.

Nom de Forum
April 17, 2015, 11:27 AM
Not at all sure what my sig line means about me. But if you guys analyze it I'm sure it will be a life changing discovery.


OilyPablo lie down on the couch and I will explain. You obviously have no more patience making lengthy explanations to people who continue to question that gun ownership is a Constitutional right, despite the Supreme Court confirming it is, so you are giving a time saving blunt statement to signal the end of debate. You may be similarly blunt in reply to the questioning of any other convictions you may have. How’s that for a crack at analysis, even it did not result in a life changing discovery, and only further confirmation I am not to be relied upon for accurate psychoanalysis. :D

Rollis R. Karvellis
April 17, 2015, 09:17 PM
Pride, arrogance, or just letting folks know what you like, and find interesting. Probably a lot of us will have a little of all these ingredients in the formula for their sig line. Mine just shows the slightly twisted sense of humor I, usually have.

I, like posting photo's of my collection, and shooting sessions on F.B. for my own memories, and for my family, and friend's who find it interesting, but aren't that involved, if at all. And I, enjoy seeing their motorcycle, and guitar photo's.

leadcounsel
April 18, 2015, 12:05 AM
Looking for "ghost guns" which shoot "heat seeking bullets that cook animals" with "more thrusts per squeeze" using "magazines that can only be used once" featuring "the shoulder thing that goes up" and "assault weapons that can be bought at a store without a NICS check".


Don't forget the machine guns bought through mail order and across state lines that are used in mass shootings.

50cal
April 18, 2015, 08:06 PM
Sigs are informative and can indicate qualifications to comment on certain topics. I.e. "Hand Loading since '69". What irritates me is people who preface derogatory remarks about others with comments like 'I don't mean anything by this" or 'not to offend anyone' - in an effort to make their assertions appear acceptable.

No insult intended of course.

mnrivrat
April 18, 2015, 08:36 PM
I use my sig line to identify a thought or talking point regarding our 2nd amendment, or to make a statement regarding the errosion of our rights.

I change it from time to time to a fresh thought. (like I did recently)

I have't found anyones signiture line to be offensive , in fact this is the first time something has been brought up regarding a negative issue with them. I pretty much enjoy reading others sig lines as it tells me a little about them as a person.

As far as sharing the fact that you own a firearm, let me just say that it is my belief the government knows 98% of those that have a firearm . They have many ways of tracking gun owners. If they come for you they may not know every gun you have, but the one you buried better be deep , someplace, else, and not on the books of anybody.

Zach S
April 18, 2015, 11:24 PM
No internet at home, I use tapatalk on my cell to surf THR... I don't see the signatures. To be honest, I dont even know what mine says, although I'm sure its a quote or two from here, and I don't even know if it shows up when I post from tapatalk.

I hate the "list" style sigs that someone mentioned, and the huge sigs like 1KPerDay(?) mentioned. One forum had an unwritten rule that said if your sig is longer than your reply, dont post your sig. In have been wishing for vB to make that an option since.

While I am in the dark when someone says something about another member's sig, I can't say I miss seeing them.

On the car boards I used to frequent, I would get the occasional tech question PM based on something in my sig, so I can see the utility of listing everything. Also, based on some of them, folks like to brag about what they have...

drband
April 18, 2015, 11:40 PM
No internet at home, I use tapatalk on my cell to surf THR... I don't see the signatures.


Note: you can use the web view option on the additional options menu (the ... menu) while viewing a thread in Tapatalk. Just in case you "wanted" to see somebody's signature that was referenced in a post.

Zach S
April 18, 2015, 11:52 PM
Thank you for the tip, however I am aware of that. I have found it to be more of a nuisance than a convenience.

The font is too small, so I have to zoom in to see it, then (carefully) swipe the screen left to right to read it, which is problematic since I tend to read a line at a time rather than words and phrases.

I just hit the back button and avoid it.

Old Dog
April 19, 2015, 01:58 AM
Not sure I've ever cared about sig lines that speak to material items that one owns ...

Ideas and principles, thoughts and ideals, just plain great (or funny) quotes are of far more interest to me.

I know a lot of stupid people who have the money to buy a lot of stuff, anyway, so what others own just doesn't seem relevant (unless they want to let me shoot their guns, of course).

kevin g
April 19, 2015, 08:38 AM
I really don't care one way or another, although it is a little annoying when you have to scroll a bunch of it , but I have no problem with a guy listing a few things, especially if he served our country.
I will post a picture, or mention stuff I got when its relevant to the conversation though.


As a side note, Jim Watson posted:
"In the same vein, when I first internetted at an advanced age, I didn't know I was supposed to come up with a cute CB type handle and just posted stuff under my real name. Think of all the fun I have missed out on."

I always thought that was funny, how guys would have handles, and then call each other buy their name in their posts

Mike J
April 19, 2015, 10:48 AM
Not sure I've ever cared about sig lines that speak to material items that one owns ...

Ideas and principles, thoughts and ideals, just plain great (or funny) quotes are of far more interest to me.

I know a lot of stupid people who have the money to buy a lot of stuff, anyway, so what others own just doesn't seem relevant (unless they want to let me shoot their guns, of course).

I pretty much agree with this.

The only reason I created a sig line was because when I joined GeorgiaCarry.Org they asked you to put them in your sig line. I like the organization & thought it would be a good idea for more people to learn about them. It has worked.

As for the anonymity of the internet a guy on another forum I frequent was told by another member they could find him if they wanted to. He didn't believe them and posted as much. A few hours later they called him on the phone. I don't have the tech savvy to do something like that but I know there are some that do. I am pretty sure if someone wanted to go through all my posts they would know what I have now & what I used to have.

notaglockfanboy
April 19, 2015, 11:13 AM
Give them enough time and they will be posting selfies showing their "duck faces". As far as seeing the name of a particular gun in the sig line and considering they are knowledgeable about that particular firearm, I find that humorous. There are thousands of people with a particular type of television out there, that don't mean they know how it works other than knowing how to turn it off and on.

blarby
April 19, 2015, 11:47 AM
True that.


They can also reference popular threads ( like the PIF threads, wisdom threads, contributing member threads) Or, be used to call out aid to activism threads.

I think the gun list can be cool, but most can't fit an exhaustive or complete list in there anyway.

I think it's usually a mixture of bravado, pride, and SHINY.

All of which are just fine.

Nom de Forum
April 19, 2015, 01:11 PM
As for the anonymity of the internet a guy on another forum I frequent was told by another member they could find him if they wanted to. He didn't believe them and posted as much. A few hours later they called him on the phone. I don't have the tech savvy to do something like that but I know there are some that do. I am pretty sure if someone wanted to go through all my posts they would know what I have now & what I used to have.

Will someone who is not a staff member of THR telephone me to confirm this. Thanks. :)

blarby
April 19, 2015, 01:40 PM
Ask TexasRifleman, lol

Mike J
April 19, 2015, 01:53 PM
Will someone who is not a staff member of THR telephone me to confirm this. Thanks.

This happened on anther forum. I am far from a computer expert but things get hacked all the time.

Nom de Forum
April 19, 2015, 02:00 PM
This happened on anther forum. I am far from a computer expert but things get hacked all the time.

I do not doubt your veracity. I am just volunteering to be a guinea pig to test this forum. You have piqued my curiosity.:)

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