Is your library politically incorrect?


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ksnecktieman
April 22, 2004, 10:48 AM
If the anti's saw your library would they think you were a radical mad bomber phsycho?

I have,
The anarchist cookbook
Acquiring new id
Do it yourself medicine
Survival
Gunfighting tactics for police
The street smart gun book
The federal siege at Ruby Ridge
many Gun digests, many operator manuals for firearms

I ask because of the books shown in this thread.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78183

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Ex-Doc
April 22, 2004, 10:59 AM
No, they would label you a terrorist...

lee n. field
April 22, 2004, 11:36 AM
No, it is not.

In my house:

Boston's Gun Bible.
Ahern's CCW HOWTO.
Claire Wolfe's _101 Things To Do Until the Revolution_ and sequels
Not one, but _two_ reloading manuals.
P. A. Luty's make yer own subgun book
Unintended Consequences
El Neil's complete works
A US Army sniper manual.
US Army on Survival, Evasion and Escape
US Army on Common Tasks -- A Boy Scout manual for grownups. Setting mines, shooting down planes, things like that.
US Army on maintaining various handguns.
Gun and reloading manufacturer catalogs
A basket full of gun magazines (the paper sort).
Sundry libertarian and unarchist screeds.

All that mixed in with English and Greek Bibles and works by the likes of John Calvin, R. C. Sproul and B. B. Warfield.

Yup. Terror suspect, for sure.

mercedesrules
April 22, 2004, 11:36 AM
No comment ;)

T.Stahl
April 22, 2004, 12:40 PM
Un-pc? I guess so. There's (or would be if they weren't lent so someone):

- almost all Clancys, fiction & non-fiction, except for the op-center series
- all NcNabs I could find
- other SAS books
- books about aircraft, including four about the German military aircraft industry and all its projects '33-'45, Jane's World Aircrat Recognition Handbook, ...
- biographies, Galland's "The First and the Last", Schwarzkopf's "It doesn't take a Hero", ...
- books about (German) tanks and Mercedes 1886-1986
- the 1962 issue of the "Taschenbuch für Wehrpflichtige", the "Taschenbuch Wehrausbildung", the "Handbuch für Übung und Einsatz", ...
- C.S. Forester's "Horatio Hornblower"
- books about guns
- several yards' worth of aircraft and gun journals

labgrade
April 22, 2004, 01:04 PM
"Not one, but _two_ reloading manuals."

You need many more. ;)

& let's not forget our own Travis' "Enemies, Foreign & Domestic"

if you haven't ordered it yet/support Matt, you're sorely missing out.

Good enough read about "freedom versus terrorism in our modern age."

Can't help but "pimp" the book. Good read & supports one of our own.

jimpeel
April 22, 2004, 01:14 PM
SOURCE (http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2004/04/22policeseekreaso.html)

Police seek reason behind cache
Prices Corner man's home arsenal included ammonium nitrate
By TERRI SANGINITI and MURALI BALAJI
Staff reporters
04/22/2004

Authorities are trying to figure out why a 26-year-old Prices Corner man kept guns, homemade blasting caps and ammonium nitrate - a key ingredient in making explosives such as those used in the Oklahoma City bombing - in his home. This could have read "ammonium nitrate - a key ingredient in making cold packs such as those used in treating sports injurues."

Among the stockpile seized Tuesday night were 11 firearms, 50-caliber machine-gun bullets, hollowed hand grenades, a night vision scope, cardboard tubes, ammunition clips and how-to books about weapons and bombs, including "Breath of the Dragon: Homebuilt Flame Throwers," authorities said. None of the above is illegal to own. "Hollowed hand grenades"? Would that be something like the "Holy Hand Grenade" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Hand_Grenade_of_Antioch) of Monte Python fame?

State police charged Mark A. Nepi, of the 2700 block of Tanager Drive in Brookmeade II, with one count each of felony possession of explosive devices, felony possession of destructive weapons, felony possession of drug paraphernalia and misdemeanor violation of probation.So let's look at the charges:

"Felony possession of explosive devices" What explosive devices? Are they speaking of the ammunition? They show nothing in the pictures or video that qualify as "explosive DEVICES".

"Felony possession of destructive weapons" Again, where are they? Nothing they showed qualifies as a "destructive weapon". No Striker 12. No Streetsweeper. No cannon. No tanks. No rocket launchers.

"Felony possession of drug paraphernalia and misdemeanor violation of probation" He could have had a couple of marijuana pipes to get this beef. He also may have had a needle and syringe. Hell, I have a needle and syringe. I use them for injecting glue under laminates on furniture here in the motel. As for the probation violation, the question remains as to whether he was aprised of the restriction on purchasing a firearm and why that restriction did not also extend to the firearms already in his possession. He can have 1,000 firearms already but buying number 1,001 is a felony? That is stupidity at its finest.

Nepi, who works as an armored car security guard with AT Systems in Wilmington and lives with his parents, was committed to the Howard R. Young Correctional Institution in lieu of $8,500 cash bail. A preliminary hearing is scheduled for Monday. EIGHTY-FIVE-HUNDRED DOLLARS? For the severity of the charges against this guy? According to that, Hitler's bail would be about $50,000.

If convicted of the felonies, Nepi will not be able to get his arsenal back, state police Major David Baylor said. Read that "If convicted of the felonies, we get to keep all of that really neat stuff to raid the next poor fool's house with; not to mention how nicely some of those will look in my personal collection" state police Major David Baylor said.

"We're going to do everything we can to try and understand why he was in possession of these weapons," he said. "We want to make sure we check that some of these weapons are not stolen and that he did have a legal reason to have them." Read that "We're going to do everything we can to try and understand why a mere Serf was in possession of these weapons."

Baylor said state probation and parole officers and members of the Governor's Task Force went to the house about 5:15 p.m. Tuesday to conduct a search after learning Nepi purchased a handgun. The purchase is a violation of his probation, which he is serving for a disorderly conduct charge. As above. Was the restriction spelled out in the probation agreement and did it disallow him from continued possession of the firerms already in his possession?

State police Cpl. Edward Sebastianelli said he entered Nepi's room to search for the gun and found an unlocked gun locker in the closet with several guns. He also found a collection of books and videos, and a "notched workbench where he reloaded empty shells with boxes of powder." It is always curious how the evidence is always "in the open" or "in an unlocked container"; and what's this about a "notched workbench"? Notched how? Are notches illegal? Suspicious? Restricted?

Nepi's book collection included "The Chemistry of Powder Explosives," "Explosives and Homemade Bombs" and "Improved Radio Detonation Techniques." All of the above are legal to own and are available from Palladin Press, et al.

Police also seized newspaper clippings of terrorist attacks, the U.S.-led Iraq invasion last year and the 1991 Persian Gulf War. Every grade school kid has similar clippings for their current events assignment.

When officers found the ammonium nitrate, they evacuated Nepi's house and eight surrounding homes in the development, which borders St. Catherine of Siena School playground. Hazardous material teams from the state's Department of Natural Resources and Environmental Control destroyed the chemical. Again, he could have been using it to make homemade ice packs. They don't say what quantity they found but it sounds like it wasn't much. Everyone panics at the mere mention of ammonium nitrate, now, like it is subject to explosion at the slightest touch.

I know what three of the containers in this picture are but what is in the plastic container? Is that the ammonium nitrate?

http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2004/04/images/60774.jpg

Neighbors were allowed to return home about 3 a.m. Wednesday.Like they ever needed to leave in the first place.

"Does this cause us alarm? Yes, it does," Baylor said. "In my neighborhood if I saw it would I be alarmed? Absolutely, and I think that anyone else would be alarmed." Ah, yes, the proper response from the neighbors had but one of the neighbors said it. Unfortunately, the state police major apparently couldn't get a neighbor so he had to express his own ninnification for his own neighborhood.

Baylor said it was premature to label Nepi a terrorist, although information about him will be forwarded to the agency's intelligence unit. Everyone is a terrorist these days. There are no innocuous reasons to have these things.

The Federal Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms also is investigating. Can't leave anyone out of the loop.

Nepi owned a collection of videos on weapon conversion and how to make gun silencers. Again, nothing illegal here.

"Pistols were placed in various locations around the house," Sebastianelli said. O-o-o-o-o-o ... bad, bad, bad!

Officers also found a stockpile of cardboard tubes under the steps in the basement used for making explosive devices, he said. This could also be read "Officers also found a stockpile of cardboard tubes under the steps in the basement used for Christmas wrapping, he said.

Baylor said police plan to get a warrant to seize Nepi's computer to investigate his correspondence and where he may have purchased his weapons. I hope he didn't post to THR. We'll all get our doors kicked in if he did.

According to court records, Nepi was arrested for disorderly conduct Nov. 15, 2002, after arguing with a neighbor and punching out the windows of a car.

He pleaded guilty Aug. 4, 2003, was placed on a year's probation, and was ordered to be evaluated for anger management and to have no contact with the 44-year-old victim, also of Brookmeade. I see nothing about weapons restriction. Does anyone here believe that if that restriction were in the probation agreement that it would not be emblazoned here?

Baylor said the violation came to light after a background check by federal authorities noted Nepi was on probation.

A state criminal background check completed at the time of the firearm purchase missed it, Baylor said. So the state check is a failed money pit.

"What this should tell the public is that we have a two-tiered system," he said. "If you do get through one, you won't get through the other." In other words, "We've got more ways to get you than you've got ways to get got.

Neighbors expressed shock that the St. Mark's High School graduate possessed such an arsenal.

"Whenever he saw the kids playing on the road, he would always drive slow and look out for them," said Kathy Rumford, who lives next door. "He was very respectful."

Rumford said when she returned home at 6:30 a.m. Wednesday she was astonished to learn Nepi had been arrested.

Nepi's parents, Robert and Marie, are great neighbors, she said. Can we get even one neighbor to say something bad about this guy? Just one? Anyone?

Marie Nepi on Wednesday said her son did nothing wrong.

"It's a shock," she said. "I just don't believe it."

Baylor said Nepi's parents will be interviewed by investigators. "It's quite likely that they may not have known," he said. And the parents of Klebold and Harris were supposed to know when there was far less evidence for them to see?

Kathy Covelli-Reyes, who has lived in the community for years, said Mark Nepi was a good kid. DAMN! Can't we get anyone to say something bad about this guy?

Officials at the armored car company declined to talk about Nepi's employment. At least they couldn't use the usual "Unemployed security guard" ploy.

Staff reporter Esteban Parra contributed to this article. Reach Murali Balaji at 324-2553 or mbalaji@delawareonline.com. Reach Terri Sanginiti at 324-2771 or tsanginiti@delawareonline.com.

Dex Sinister
April 22, 2004, 01:17 PM
Un PC. Hmmmm.

Well, at last estimation, my wife and I have slightly over 2,500 books in our house, with only about 2.5 ft of them of the anarchist cookbook variety, while there are about 5 feet worth on law, and 7 feet worth on philosophy.

So yes, I'm positive I'd be a terror suspect. :banghead:

Dex }:>=-

CannibalCrowley
April 22, 2004, 01:18 PM
I guess I should expect a visit sometime soon. I better call the local libaries too.

jimpeel
April 22, 2004, 01:21 PM
Yes, and a philosopher terrorist also; the worst kind.

ksnecktieman
April 22, 2004, 01:31 PM
OOPS

I never considered my fiction library, Do you think they would find anything wrong with John Grisham's, "A time to kill", or WW Johnstone's "Ashes series" about the collapse of the world governments, or Stephen Hunter's "A time to hunt"? All great books, by the way, but be careful who can see them :what:

Smoke
April 22, 2004, 03:21 PM
and a philosopher terrorist also; the worst kind.

ROTFLMAO :D

Hope you don't have any HighCap Philsophy. Or preban Philosophy.

Ban Philososphy - FOr the Children.

Smoke

:D :D :D

Dex Sinister
April 22, 2004, 04:00 PM
Ban Philososphy - For the Children.
Ah yes:

Chris Rhines
April 22, 2004, 08:22 PM
Gah. I would be toast.

Just in the library alone, I have dozens of books, videos, and articles on gunsmithing (including articles on manufacturing improvised firearms and full-auto conversions), around a dozen books on shooting, five or six books on demolitions and commercial blasting, twenty or thirty books on anarchism and radical politics, books on terrorism, underground religon, unconventional warfare, intelligence, and lots of other subjects that are not suitable for polite company.

Of course, I've also got collections of books on machining and modelmaking, computers, philosophy, psychology, golf, backpacking, kayaking, stage magic, and tons of science fiction. Catholic interests, ya know? :D

- Chris

Linux&Gun Guy
April 22, 2004, 10:25 PM
Its full of incorrect stuff that will get you killed.

Dex Sinister
April 22, 2004, 11:33 PM
NO Anarchist Cookbook! It's full of incorrect stuff that will get you killed. Correct: No Anarchist Cookbook. [Though I do have Improvised Munitions v I, II, III. The chemistry bookcase is better for that sort of thing anyway...

...Oh dear...more terror...

Dex }:>=-

Delmar
April 22, 2004, 11:56 PM
I have a huge collection of REALLY radical stuff from people who incited to overthrow the government by violence-a print of the Declaration of Independence, the Federalist Papers, plus radical periodicals such as Guns and Whammo Annual, Field and Stream, and my cookbook was written by a terrorist named Betty Crocker!

Moparmike
April 23, 2004, 02:40 AM
Its not as politically incorrect as I would like it to be. :p


Lets see:

Clancy, Red October to Red Rabbit, no Ops stuff
Dirty Little Secrets: Military Information You Arent Supposed to Know (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0688112706/ref=qid=1082701972/sr=36-pd_sr_ec_ir_b/ref=sr_36_pd_sr_ec_ir_b_b/104-1918925-0283167) :scrutiny:
Star Trek: TNG Tech Manual (I was 15, forgive me...)
A couple of Dale Earnhardt Sr. books
"Point of Impact" by Stephen Hunter ...its somewhere around here...
A bunch of eeeevil college textbooks about chemistry, math, and computer programming. I could be a terrorist and not even know it...Better place myself under citizens arrest until I pick myself up for questioning...:scrutiny: :D

CaesarI
April 23, 2004, 04:09 AM
I've got the ST: TNG Technical manual too, so don't feel so bad. I've also got the ST: Encyclopedia.

In addition I've a wide range of classical literature, old textbooks, Rand, history books, my gun book collection is relatively small, but it will grow in the future.

This misses the point however. They'd still arrest me. Apparently what we read is a crime now adays.

Pity, it used to be such a free country too.

-Morgan

*-more's the pity since there isn't a better alternative.

Hkmp5sd
April 23, 2004, 03:56 PM
Having 5,000+ books lining the walls of 2 bedrooms, dining room and living room, you can find books on almost any politically incorrect subject around in my house. The subject ranges from comic books to The History of Torture and making nuclear weapons.

4v50 Gary
April 23, 2004, 04:15 PM
Every book here is protected by the First Amendment and is here for scholarly or informational purposes. Anybody see my Mad magazine?

The_Antibubba
April 23, 2004, 11:04 PM
The fact that I even have a library makes me a threat, because I'm not reliant on "the Media" for all of my information.

But then, most of us here have been Thought Criminals for years, yes?

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