[Master Blaster]

A group who owns a bunch of TV stations says this is politically motivated and is refusing to air the broadcast.

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=71000001&refer=us&sid=aqgo9j99xhd4

[BigG]

The group is right, imho. :barf:

[Joe Demko]

It's easier to keep selling Joe and Jane Sixpack on the war if the casualties remain anonymous.

[Boats]

First of all, they are not anonymous. Every death in Iraq, from the most macabre ones of being burned alive or hit with an RPG, to dying in a traffic accident or electrocuting one's self working on a generator, get reported.

The liberal impulse that says that all of their names must be read off to be akin to the sound of a funeral dirge is the same one that motivates them to want to show every coffin that comes back to Dover AFB--to waive the bloody shirt and exploit their deaths for the sake of their politically slanted "message." It is a form of rhetorical human sacrifice. "Let's read them off." The subtext of course being "Here they are, these young people who died for nothing." The darker view is that they were killed so that the President could make kickbacks to Halliburton. Such sentiments are about as intellectually lazy as it gets.

There is no difference between Mr. Kick at the memoryhole.org and Ted Koppel in their desire to exploit the demise of fine American volunteers for their own political desires. There is certainly not any "noble sentiment" that withstands scrutiny, no matter how much spin they put onto their actions or how solemn they try to sound. They want the image they create through the exploitation of our war dead. They need to grandstand before leftist weenie pacifists like they need air to breathe.

I find them contemptible.

[Joe Demko]

First of all, they are not anonymous.

How many can you name off the top of your head? How many faces can you picture?

[longeyes]

Not too long ago Dennis Prager read off the names of the fallen on his radio show. The effect was, well, powerful. At the end I found myself in tears. All those lives, personalized, if only the name and where they were from.

But it's all about the motive behind the action. Anyone with any depth understands the humanity of the loss, the tragedy of each fallen soul. But that in itself does not argue for or against military action. Sometimes one must walk through hell to get to a better place.

I am reminded of a quote by Thucydides: "Having done what men could, they suffered what men must."

[FPrice]

"It's easier to keep selling Joe and Jane Sixpack on the war if the casualties remain anonymous."

Conversely it's easier to keep Chad and Muffy DomPerignon crying and thinking only with their emotions as they drink their bubbly while listening to a list of names being read, regardless of the hurt it causes the families who have already been hurt.

"How many can you name off the top of your head? How many faces can you picture?"

How many names from the WTC, the Pentagon, and the field in Pennsylvania can YOU name. What about the USS Cole? The American Embassies in Africa? Pan Am 103?

Your point misses the mark by a long shot. It is based on the same emotions and strategies that gun control proponents use when they post pictures of people killed by gunfire in an attempt to convince Chad, Muffy, Joe and Jane to give up their guns and yours and mine "for the children".

The fact of the matter is we are at war, our opponents have been at war with us longer than we have been at war with them, and failure to continue until our enemies know we mean business will mean more casualties, not fewer.

[Joe Demko]

If you object to faces and names being attached to casualty figures, don't watch.

[flatrock]

How many can you name off the top of your head? How many faces can you picture?

I can only picture and name a few, but I can look their names up on the web if I choose to do so.

I believe that those who died serving our country should be properly honored.

ABC has shown itself to not be an impartial presenter of the news. I have strong doubts that this will done in a way to honor the soldiers service and sacrifice.

Is ABC also going to show pictures of the attrocities that were committed by the former Iraqi government? How about pictures of all the innocents these insurgents have killed? ABC is more than happy to show pictures when their are injuries to innocents when there are injuries that are blamed on US troops, even when there's no proof that US troops were at fault.

I'm happy to see that Sinclair Broadcasting is getting tired of seeing ABC confusing their anti-war editorials with news coverage.

[w4rma]

I think that it is obvious that Sinclair Broadcast Group Inc. is censoring this because of their own political motive.

http://www.sbgi.net/about/executives.shtml
BUTLER, M W MR
REISTERSTOWN,MD 21136 SINCLAIR BROADCASTING GROUPS INC./T 2/4/2004 $250 Bush, George W
BUTLER, M W MR
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BUTLER, M WILLIAM
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BUTLER, M WILLIAM
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SMITH, FRED G
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SMITH, FREDERICK G
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SMITH, FREDERICK G
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SMITH, FREDERICK G
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SMITH, FREDERICK G
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SMITH, FREDERICK G
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SMITH, FREDERICK G
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SMITH, FREDERICK G
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<Note, the tally needs to be recalculated as was rudely pointed out by Reno, below. Also note the $80,000, $25,000 and $15,000 soft-money donations to the Republican Party aren't included in this tally.>
To Democrats: $0 (0%)
To Republicans: $39,400 (100%)
Total: $39,400

Contributor Occupation Date Amount Recipient
SINCLAIR BROADCAST GROUP INC
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SMITH, FREDERICK G DR
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[Thumper]

Golgo,

It's not the message, partner...it's the messenger.

We know Koppel's politics.

Tell you what, how about we let Pat Robertson have a special program where he puts a name and a face to every homosexual who's died of AIDs?

No one objects to honoring America's fallen, but this is a blatant attempt to use these individuals as political tools. I'm sick of it.

[fix]

Thumper just nailed it.

[Joe Demko]

how about we let Pat Robertson have a special program where he puts a name and a face to every homosexual who's died of AIDs?

That's not a bad idea. I don't object to anything that puts a face on death and reminds everyone that there are real people losing their lives.

[flatrock]

w4rma,

Where did you go to look up how much someone donated to political parties?

I want to go look up how many millions the executives at ABC have given to Democrat Candidates.

[TimRB]

"I want to go look up how many millions the executives at ABC have given to Democrat Candidates."

You may not find much, Flatrock. Network executives know that the very best way to support their candidates and causes is to advertise them on their "news" broadcasts.

Tim

[w4rma]

w4rma,

Where did you go to look up how much someone donated to political parties?…
Individual Search (http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/fecimg/norindsea.html):
Search for contributions made by individuals using contributor name, city, state, zip code, principal place of business, date, and amount.
…
http://www.fec.gov/finance_reports.html

Then, type: <last name>, <first name>

[45Hoop]

I think that it is obvious that Sinclair Broadcast Group Inc. is censoring this because of their own political motive.

Conversely, the network is running the same gambit that was used in Vietnam....which was also for political motive. And it would appear a repeat of the same tactics is for political motive.

I guess its OK to do if it is in your best interests w4?:banghead:

Sinclairs position is the "show and tell" on Nighline is politically motivated and they want no part of it. Your take is no "show and tell" is politically motivated.

So once again according to you.....they can't win, or be allowed to make a decision what will air on "their" stations.

Maybe you could buy Air America and run the dead 24/7..........oh thats right no-one wants to carry there programming. Those that are are being paid to carry it. :confused:

[davec]

for all the claims of Walt Disney company democratic bias, they sure do seem to spread their money arround pretty evenly.

http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/com_supopp/C00197749/

NATIONAL REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE 05/09/2003 5000.00 23991635771
NATIONAL REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE 05/09/2003 5000.00 23991635771
NATIONAL REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE CONTRIBUTIONS 11/04/2002 1000.00 22992953655
NATIONAL REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE CONTRIBUTIONS 11/04/2002 1000.00 22992953655
NATIONAL REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE CONTRIBUTIONS 03/18/2004 5000.00 24991130331
NATIONAL REPUBLICAN SENATORIAL COMMITTEE 03/19/2003 5000.00 23991635772
NATIONAL REPUBLICAN SENATORIAL COMMITTEE 03/19/2003 5000.00 23991635772
NATIONAL REPUBLICAN SENATORIAL COMMITTEE 02/25/2004 5000.00 24990807397


and


DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE 03/25/2003 5000.00 23991635772
DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE 03/25/2003 5000.00 23991635772
DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE - CONTRIBUTIONS 03/31/2004 5000.00 24991130332
DEMOCRATIC SENATORIAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE 05/30/2003 5000.00 23991635780
DEMOCRATIC SENATORIAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE 05/30/2003 5000.00 23991635780
DEMOCRATIC SENATORIAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE 02/17/2004 5000.00 24990807395


I wasent about to go through the list of individuals, but the names I saw ranged from Barbra Boxer to John Ashcroft. Intresting, they gave money to Rick Lazio, but not Hillary Clinton.

Chairman of Walt Disney Company:

EISNER, MICHAEL MR.
WASHINGTON, DC 20036
DISNEY CO./CEO

BUSH, GEORGE W
VIA BUSH FOR PRESIDENT INC.
02/17/2000 1000.00 20990072605

but he did find a loophole to give to the Bill Bradley Campaign twice in 1999. Maybe he just didn't like Al Gore? *shrug* intresting none the less.

[SkunkApe]

Is ABC also going to show pictures of the attrocities that were committed by the former Iraqi government?

I hope so. I still haven't seen the babies being removed from respirators. I haven't seen the chipper machine yet, either. Its about time these atrocities were aired for public scrutiny.

The fact of the matter is we are at war, our opponents have been at war with us longer than we have been at war with them

I forget...when did the Iraqis start attacking the United States? Was that before or after the Rumsfeld/Hussein handshake photo?

[Nathaniel Firethorn]

for all the claims of Walt Disney company democratic bias, they sure do seem to spread their money arround pretty evenly.
They're making the donations to stay in tight when they come around for favors, not to support an ideology. It makes sure they're cozy with whoever wins.

- pdmoderator

[Thumper]

I'm glad some of our DU reps are starting to show up.

Prompted me to go over there, and I haven't visited in awhile.

I highly recommend everyone go check out the blatant hatred and disdain for our fighting men that's reflected by the members there. Look at any discussion involving our soldiers.

Don't post there, you'd only be censored anyway and flame wars aren't conducive to honest discourse.

But go check it out...it's very revealing.

[Reno]

w4rma, you're an outright liar, saying there is no money going to democrats.

That is, of course, unless Al Gore is not a democrat.

If you want to post your misguided opinions, fine, but stop using blatant lies in an attempt to change the opinions of someone else.

[SkunkApe]

I'm glad some of our DU reps are starting to show up.

If you mean me, I'll have you know that I'm not driving under the influence. I'm not even driving.

[critter]

I agree with many of you that it is politically motivated. Boats, Thumper, SkunkApe-you guys (and others) NAILED it! I highly resent them using our fine soldiers who gave the ultimate sacrifice to furthur their own political, anti-war agenda. Liberal scum.

Koppel (supposedly a newsman) should not MAKE news but report it. Newspeople SHOULD report without BIAS. Those are the first two MAIN rules of a respectable, believable, newsperson of integrity. Koppel does NOT meet any of these criteria.

IF Koppel (from England I understand) had his anit-war way, HE WOULD BE SPEAKING GERMAN right now! However, the good ole USA went to war to save that country as well as our own. How soon he forgets!

They also forget that WE did not start this war. It has been going on for a long time-way before 9/11. Had we kept to our own 'poor downtrodden underprivaledged group of misguided people' anti-war stance, soon the war would again be over here in OUR streets instead of over there. Reckon ole Ted K would be more inclined to be a hawk then?

I personally e-mailed the whole bunch and gave them a piece of my mind-for all the good it will do. Won't change them, but I feel better.

[SkunkApe]

I agree with many of you that it is politically motivated. Boats, Thumper, SkunkApe-you guys (and others) NAILED it!

I think you have me on the wrong list. I'm supposed to be on the leftist, liberal, terrorist-loving, military-hating, cowardly sissy list.

[Mr. James]

critter,

Never knew that - abcnews.com says Koppel is a native of Lancashire, England, and moved to the United States when he was thirteen.

By the way, Jim Lehrer has been doing this funereal name-reading during his News Hour program on PBS for quite some time.

If it is being done to honor the fallen, more power to them. Sadly, I suspect other motives.

[R.H. Lee]

It is done in the typical intellectual dishonesty and disingenousness of the left, hiding a negative motive under a positive one. It is transparent.

Example:

Yesterday, I was actually listening to Err America during lunchtime. (My local radio station has taken leave of its senses and replaced Gallagher, Hannity and Savage with this drivel, but that's another story)

The commentator (some strident female), was gleefully tearing into the story about U.S. committing "torture". It was clear she had a low opinion of our military.

The next story concerned Ted Koppel's reading of names-the subject of this thread. Her tone changed as she emphasized how "censorship" prevented us from "honoring our troops". She continued on the "honoring our troops" theme, while 5 minutes before she was of the opinion our troops were knuckledragging neanderthals.

She seemed totally unaware of her complete and utter hypocrisy.

These people are either mentally disordered or willfully evil.

[Drjones]

Night line reading names of all killed in Iraq

Translation: Leftists throw huge bash. Bring your galoshes and prepare to watch them dance in blood and bodies!





Boats nailed it with his answer. :fire:

:barf:

[Drjones]

I think you have me on the wrong list. I'm supposed to be on the leftist, liberal, terrorist-loving, military-hating, cowardly sissy list.

Hey, you said it....

[agricola]

well, its nice to see that good ole' THR staple of "the US saved England" again.

its just so resilient - no amount of fact can drive it away.

[SkunkApe]

Hey, you said it....

Yeah, but I didn't say it first.

[Boats]

How many can you name off the top of your head? How many faces can you picture?

The names in Oregon sometimes escape me with the exception of Sgt. Donald Walters, who was the real combat hero in the incident in Nassiryia that resulted in the capture of Pvt. Jessica Lynch, but the images of every service member from this state who has returned home stick in my mind. A soldier from Coos Bay. A Marine helo pilot with ties to Portland.

Then again, as was previously said, your comments about names and faces doesn't have anything to do with the cost of tea in China. Why not address why certain segments of the media feel the overwhelming desire to exploit their deaths to satisfy such a transparent end?

[Art Eatman]

This thread's already too hostile. And if it drifts to "Who saved England?", it ain't gonna make it all the way across the Atlantic.

Think and edit before hitting the "Submit" button.

Art

[flatrock]

w4rma,

I think that it is obvious that Sinclair Broadcast Group Inc. is censoring this because of their own political motive.

You did a good job of providing evidence that the managment of Sinclair Broadcast Group are Republican supporters.

However, Nite Line shows only one side of the story on a regular basis. They censor out opposing positions by omitting them as standard operating procedure, yet they claim to be an unbiased news source.

At some point doesn't Sinclair Broadcasting Group have the right to quit providing them with a forum to if they aren't going to be ballanced? You call it censorship, because you are opposed to what they are doing and the word censorship has a negative connotation.

I think they should use the time slot to discuss the War in Iraq in as balanced a was as they possibly can, and let the viewers make an informed decision on what they believe.

[ojibweindian]

Who the hell watches Nightline? I haven't in years. They're trying to increase ratings and torpedo the war effort. Typical media crap.

[mercedesrules]

(Boats)The subtext of course being "Here they are, these young people who died for nothing." The darker view is that they were killed so that the President could make kickbacks to Halliburton.

...when everybody knows that they died so that mercedesrules could spew his vitriolic liberty junk on the internet...in English instead of Arabic, no less!

Today's liberty junk: If the TV stations were totally private, we would all agree that each one could produce the shows they thought were best for their business. Private property would solve any content arguments. The size of the audience and the sponsors would determine the content. Homesteading could determine the frequency allocations.

MR, extreme libertarian

[longrifleman]

I think that it is obvious that Sinclair Broadcast Group Inc. is censoring this because of their own political motive

Refusing to use your private property to air something you disagree with is no more censorship that the NYTs refusing to publish essays by Lew Rockwell, Murray Rothbard or any other champion of freedom is censorship.

The whole concept of the airwaves being "public property" and therefore subject to control by the govt is a scam that leads directly to both censorship and govt propaganda at the same time. It won't be long before someone on the left raises a stink about them refusing to air this based on this bogus claim.

If you can have your license jerked for upsetting your masters in DC it is difficult to claim that the broadcast press is independent.




(mercedesrules--RULES!)

[Hkmp5sd]

Exactly why is this an issue? Who cares? The names are public record and no one is going to sit and watch that idiot read off 500+ names.

The only people with a legitimate voice in whether or not this is political or a memorial are the families of those on the list.

[c_yeager]

If someone wants to read off a bunch of names in the public record it is their right to do so. Further if someone wants to imply that those deaths were needless then that is a perfectly valid viewpoint. Its a view i dont agree with but, i also have the mysterious ability to turn off the TV and not listen should i choose to do so.

Personally, i LIKE it when liberals do stupid insensitive crap like this. It just makes all those fence sitters rethink wether they REALLY should vote for these people just because they are "supposed" to. I personally know several 3rd generation Democrats who are simply NOT going to vote for kerry just because they are FINALLY hearing the liberal agenda from the horses mouth.

I say give these people all the rope they want. We all know what they are doing with it.

[mvpel]

They're making the donations to stay in tight when they come around for favors, not to support an ideology. It makes sure they're cozy with whoever wins.

Disney's money proved to be very, very well spent when Congress passed the copyright extension, giving "Steamboat Willie" another 20 years worth of proprietary coverage out to 95 years, up from 14 years in 1790.

"Limited time?" What's that?

[Joe Demko]

up from 14 years in 1790

Damn. Old Walt has been frozen even longer than I thought.

[atek3]

I can't believe someone compared the conquering and occupation of iraq to WWII, but thats OT, so I'll just leave it at that. I think someones comparison to vietnam was a lot more apt.

We know the media has a liberal bias. We know they have an anti-war slant. Get over it. I mean if ABC showed bloated, decomposing corpses of Servicemen killed from IED's I'd be more skeptical of airing it prime time.

atek3

[Gary H]

Airing the names and/or photos is political as is not airing them. The anti-war crowd knows that personalizing the loss supports their position. I hate to see the deaths of these folks used in this way, but it is fair game. I think that it is important to recognize the personal loss. If that is difficult for some, well it should be. I support the war in Iraq because I believe that the goals are important to the long time security of this country. That doesn't make viewing the dead easy. It does mean that I believe that we owe them a debt that we can't repay.. oh..except by making sure that their death served a real lasting and noble purpose.

[StuporDave]

1 - If they're going to read off the names of all those killed in Iraq to "honor them", what about the brave men and women who gave all in Afghanistan? Are they not worth honoring? Ahh...the left can't really attack President Bush for Afghanistan, can they? Even they agree with the action there. Reading those names would be counter-productive for them.

2 - What about the fine men and women who, sadly, will be killed in the near future in Iraq? Is he going to read their names at some point? Maybe the week before the election?

3 - To me, doing this at this point in time is a purely political move designed to negatively effect President Bush's poll numbers. If Ted were to do this after the action in Iraq was over, after most of our troops had been brought home, I might believe it was meant to honor them. (might)

As others have said, we know Mr. Koppel's politics.

Dave

[carpettbaggerr]

What about those who gave their lives in WWII? How come nobody ever honored them by reading their names on the air? Of course it would take a while with somewhere around 300,000 casualties....................