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Shovelhead
May 4, 2004, 07:35 AM
In the news:

Airline employee finds loaded gun on plane
Secret Service agent’s 9mm was left behind on Continental flight
By Brock N. Meeks
Chief Washington correspondent
MSNBC
Updated: 8:15 p.m. ET May 03, 2004WASHINGTON - An airline employee found a loaded 9mm handgun Monday lodged between the seats of a Continental Airlines flight after it landed at Newark airport, MSNBC.com has learned.

The plane departed from Reagan National Airport Monday morning; Reagan National is the airport most used by Washington dignitaries due to its proximity to the Capitol.

The FBI was called in to investigate and determined the weapon, a 9mm Sig-Sauer, belonged to U.S. Secret Service agent, a source familiar with the investigation told MSNBC.com. The agent declared his carry-on weapon at Reagan before boarding and was the only armed agent on board, according to a federal security employee who asked to remain anonymous.

The disturbing incident is apparently not unique. “This is not the first time this has happened,” said an administration official while confirming the incident to NBC News. “There have been one or two other occasions where federal agents have left their firearms on board planes,” the administration official said, though he couldn’t name which agencies the officers worked for.

The administration official also noted that a federal air marshal recently left his weapon in an airport restroom. Another recent incident involved a commercial airline pilot who was qualified to carry a gun in the cockpit under the new Federal Flight Deck Officer Program. During a shuttle ride from the aircraft the pilot left the gun — which was inside a lockbox — behind on the shuttle. Another pilot recognized the lockbox and retrieved it, according to a federal security employee.

In other incidents, federal officers have dropped live ammunition on board airplanes, said the administration official. “In each and every case appropriate disciplinary action was taken and will be again in this case,” the official said.

© 2004 MSNBC Interactiv

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sturmruger
May 4, 2004, 10:28 AM
Sucks to be him. It seems like a pretty simple concept. When you are working you keep the pistol on your person!! Do they give these guys really crappy holsters or what??

RadikalRednek
May 4, 2004, 10:39 AM
Somebody please send these guys to see the wizard to get a brain so they can take it out and play with it instead of their weapon!!!:fire:

Leatherneck
May 4, 2004, 10:49 AM
Hey, welcome to The High Road Shovelhead! Where 'bouts in NoVa?

TC
TFL Survivor

pendentive
May 4, 2004, 10:56 AM
doh!

I'm not too far from y'all.....Mont. Co., MD

Mikul
May 4, 2004, 11:40 AM
It sure would be nice to find that in the seat next to me on my way off of the plane.

Sure beats peanuts.

Foreign Devil
May 4, 2004, 12:15 PM
Deadly handguns are flooding the seats!

buy guns
May 4, 2004, 01:39 PM
so i guess airports are the place to get free guns. i better start flying more.

Redlg155
May 4, 2004, 01:56 PM
How in the world do you lose a handgun in between the seats and not know it?

The pilot who left the lockbox I understand since it was not on his person. Still, it was secure and in a location only accessable to pilots. The one in the restroom I sorta understand. I normally place my handgun on my lap when in the bathroom. You'd be amazed at how many folks look at the feet of someone in the next stall. I'd hate for them to see my carry gun.

I don't understand the other one. I suspect he took it off so he could be seated more comfortably in his chair since a Sig 9mm isnt' an ankle carry gun.

Go figure...

Good Shooting
Red

TCD
May 4, 2004, 02:57 PM
I can see how it would happen, but a bad move nonetheless. You sit down, and to make yourself more comftorable, you put sig in the front seat.
Rushed to get out, and leave it behind.


Although I always do a touch test whenever I leave somewhere.

tap front left for wallet, and front right for cellphone, keys, and inhaler.


I'm sure I'll do the same if I have a CCW on me.

fix
May 4, 2004, 03:00 PM
Fess up. How many of you would have kept the gun? Stripped it for parts? Kept the mags/ammo? :evil:

Ol' Badger
May 4, 2004, 03:06 PM
Even better. I would have stripped it and flushed the parts down the toilet!

Shovelhead
May 4, 2004, 03:06 PM
Hey, welcome to The High Road Shovelhead! Where 'bouts in NoVa?

TC
TFL Survivor


Thanks, Leatherneck.

I'm in North Arlington.
(At least for the next 6 years when I retire)

Ed

vi9er
May 4, 2004, 03:21 PM
I certainly would not have taken the firearm in question, but, coincedentaly, I would have been 1 sig richer when I arrived at my destination.....

Ed

Andrew Rothman
May 4, 2004, 03:37 PM
In other incidents, federal officers have dropped live ammunition on board airplanes, said the administration official.

Oh, no! And we all know that ammo is like nitroglycerin -- look at it wrong and it'll go off! :rolleyes:

Standing Wolf
May 4, 2004, 04:27 PM
Only the police need guns. Only the police are qualified to handle guns.

PaladinVC
May 4, 2004, 04:53 PM
Hey, what WOULD you do if you found it? You can't exactly say, "Hey, stewardess, take a look at THIS!" I don't think there's any reason why you wouldn't be able to get it off the plane and home on your own, but there are moral concerns, and of course serious legal ramifications in the event that you're caught. That's a crummy situation. it sure is a nice pistol, though. Mmm... Sig...

Andrew Rothman
May 4, 2004, 06:58 PM
I asked myself the same question when I read this: What would I do if I found it?

I decided that I'd stay there, throw a jacket over it, page a flight attendant, and politely ask her to summon a flight officer (a pilot/copilot/navigator). I would tell the flight officer the straight truth, and only offer to touch the thing if I thought the guy didn't know how to secure it.

This procedure offers the best chance of safely securing the weapon without anyone, especially me, getting in trouble.

Orthonym
May 5, 2004, 04:01 AM
Where is your gun RIGHT NOW?

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