[ShaiVong]

I'm not asking how to do it here, I've been through that before and I appreciate all the info given.

My question is this: For those of you who have actually gotten your stamp, how hard was it to get it? Did you run into any CLEO's that wouldnt sign?

I want to build one within the next few years, and this is my excuse: My wife is abou 95lbs soaking wet, and is about 5'4". She is moderately muscled because she wrangles dogs all day at a vet clinic where she is a Vet Tech. She's not a gun person, but in about the year and 10 months we've been married she has made some progress. Funny how she doesnt like guns until a noise wakes her up at night :rolleyes: :D .

I have a BM 20" with their freefloating guard, and it weighs a TON. She can shoulder it for about 5 seconds. And shes a decent shot from prone or kneeling considering shes fired a rifle on about 3 occasions (she has potential there!).

The bushy ultralight is a good stopgap solution, but i'm looking to build a shorty with their ultralight profile cut down to about this length. (http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=22&t=207250) .

So did you guys hit any obsticales? If you did, how did you get around them?

This is a 'Shal Issue' state, and the local constabulary was pretty good about giving me my CWP. I sent them a letter about my C&R, but that requires no action on their part. I have no idea how they would respond to a SBR form. Would it be better to try and talk to the CLEO in person?

Thanks again guys, I love this site. ;)

[ShaiVong]

Maybe this should be moved to the rifle folder?

[Hkmp5sd]

No problems here. The local sheriff signs for anyone qualified. You might see if there are any local or nearby NFA dealers in your area and ask them for any pointers.

If all else fails, incorporate and bypass the CLEO altogether.

[Nestor]

You coud save you self a lot of trouble and money buy using a light carbine

the M1 is quite nice

and as for price the Hi-Point is a great deal < $240 often < $200 it is with out a doubt NOT a thing of beauty.

http://www.mkssupply.com/articles.asp


Marlin also makes some pistol calliber carbines

[Harry Tuttle]

have you handled the Bushmaster "lady" in birdseye maple burl?
http://www.bushmaster.com/CoverLady.jpg
Bushmaster's Newest Carbon 15 .223 Caliber Rifle, The Lady weighs just under four pounds - perfect for ladies and small stature individuals. It features an overall Birdseye Maple Pattern coating on receiver, buttstock, and forend, and select operating controls are accented with nickel plating. This Carbon 15 Type 21 Rifle is a feather-weight with fire-power! It is chambered for the powerful 5.56mm NATO cartridge but will accept the nearly identical .223 Remington as well. The Upper and Lower Receivers, Buttstock and Forend are all molded of state of the art Carbon Fiber material that offers incredible durability, strength and ultra-light weight.

[Hkmp5sd]

Man, that is one seriously ugly "Lady"! :)

[Patent Works]

Here's how:

Go online and download the Form 1. http://www.titleii.com/pdf/032804Form1.pdf

Fill it out, get the needed signatures, and send it in with your check.

Wait.

When (AFTER) it is approved, buy an upper of the barrel length you indicated on the sheet, and install it.

[armoredman]

How about a nice pistol caliber carbine, like a Ruger PC9 or PC40? Reliable, more punch with the longer barrel, in the house, and lighter than a standard rifle! Heck, even a 10/22 would be better than harsh language!

Can she use a pistol?:confused:

[firearms_instructor]

THE KEL-TEC SUB 2000 CARBINE
Technical Specifications
Calibers: 9 mm Luger & .40 S&W
Weight unloaded 4.0lbs. 1.8 kg
Length open 30" 762 mm
Length closed 16" 406 mm
Barrel length 16.1" 408 mm
Aperture rear, circular hood
adjustable front
Practical range/over 150yds 150 m
Rifle features an internal keyed
deployment lock.
Rifle can be reduced to a size of
16" x 7" to facilitate secure storage. 406 x 178 mm

[444]

Whether or not your local CLEO will sign is something we have no way of knowing. As HK mentioned, your best bet would be to talk to your local Class III dealer or anyone locally that owns NFA weapons.
I can tell you that I had no problem at all getting a sign off. In fact the guy signing the forms seemed more excited about it than I was. He was busy telling me how much fun I was going to have. After he was finished he showed me a few of his own guns. When I went back for other sign offs, he just told his secretary to have me drop off the paperwork and they called me to pick it up after he signed it (the first time he took my DL and "ran me").

[Correia]

I don't have any SBRs yet, but I know that there is no problem getting signed off in this state.

One thing you may want to consider. Your wife is not a new shooter. One of the things that screws up new shooters more than anything is muzzle blast. Muzzle blast out of a 16 inch AR is pretty bad. Muzzle blast out of a 14.5 is really bad. Now do that indoors. :p I shot an AR pistol inside a 10x20 room once, it cleared my sinuses. Now keep in mind that I'm a certifiable recoil and blast nut, and I find shooting short ARs indoors extreamly unpleasant. For a new shooter, that much muzzle blast is going to cause a major flinch.

There is nothing wrong with short weapons, but since you are doing this for you wife you may want to take into account her needs, and then get the SBR for yourself. :)

Me personally, one of these days I'm going to go the SBS route on a Saiga 12. That will be great fun.

[Don Gwinn]

"Tech Time" at the SCRA meeting Monday night was a presentation on a member's FAL with 16.25" barrel + muzzle brake. He says he's in the process of building one with a standard barrel, after which he will sell the current shorty. His term was "obnoxious." Apparently he once fired it from the hip, which resulted in some facial singes.

Just a thought on really short barrels.