What happened to Triton ammunition?


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WonderNine
May 5, 2004, 07:05 PM
http://www.triton-ammo.com/

http://www.tritonammo.com/

:confused:

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Sylvilagus Aquaticus
May 5, 2004, 08:57 PM
Looks to me like somebody forgot to pay the domain registration renewal fee.

Regards,
Rabbit.

FCoelho
May 5, 2004, 09:14 PM
Lets just say it's a loooong story. The most recent info can be found here (http://www.ambackforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=1221) and here (http://www.ambackforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=1186).

Regarding the domains, last I knew the site was being hosted by Glock Talk's Eric Powell. Odds are no one ever paid him for renewing the domains or hosting.

mec
May 6, 2004, 09:15 AM
It does perform very well when shot into raw beef brisket.
http://www.sixgunner.com/miles/guests/images/mcump/10/Qshokf1.jpg
To the extent that Instant Destroyer and Killer Bullets are needed, this should be a good one.

FCoelho
May 6, 2004, 09:25 AM
Tom Burczynski still says it's the best design he has come up with yet when it comes to terminal performance. I agree with him.

I'm glad to see so many people still interested in the Triton products. I guess I did something right.

mec
May 6, 2004, 09:51 AM
You did, indeed do several things right . I got one of those care packages mentioned in your first link and check out several different loads. All produced fine accuracy, good bullet expansion (jhp) and reliable fragmentation of the pre stressed QuikShok. I even shot the QS throug a 2/4 and confired that it was intact when it hit a target on the other side.

Interestling, the expert opinionater wrote this article in 2002
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m0BTT/160_26/92585772/p4/article.jhtml?term=
and then obitered this dicta in 2004.

"So far the only ammo I have used has been 223 and 50 rounds functioned fine but had an extreme velocity spread of 300 fps which is pretty high"

This is enough to make you believe in parallel universes-but in any case, I shot a lot of the pistol ammo and found extreme spreads to be very narrow and the ammunition most consistent.

BluesBear
May 6, 2004, 10:24 AM
I have 2 boxes of .45 acp Quik-Shok that I am hoarding in my SHTF stash. I wish I could find some more at a reasonable price.
Right now my Colt is loaded with Hi-Vel and I am down to my last 150 rounds of that.

Please tell me that the A-MERC deal didn't go through and that there's still hope that a real ammo company might resurrect it.

Moonclips
May 6, 2004, 10:58 AM
I bought some .357 Mags Quik Shoks when they were still in business. Their ammo was expensive. Even if they were still widely available now (they are still available in some quarters), I think I'd stick with the proven Gold Dots with bonded cores. Semi-frangible ammo may have an edge in an ideal SD situation where the perp is facing you squarely with no obstacles blocking the line of fire. But from the side or, if the line of fire is blocked somewhat by an object or the perp's arm, the round may fragment prematurely and not have the desired follow-through. Just my 2 cents.

FCoelho
May 6, 2004, 12:44 PM
mec - Charlie was referring to .223 ammo he received from American Ammo that he recently tested. While Triton was working on a .223 Quik-Shok, we never released .223 to the public. But I can assure you, if we had, it would not have extreme spreads like that.

BluesBear
May 6, 2004, 09:44 PM
The testing I did with .45 Quik Shok showed that it penetrated barriers as good as a conventional hollowpoint. Just like a normal hollowpoint it needs a suitable medium to fill the cavity in order to expand.

joegerardi
May 6, 2004, 11:43 PM
Hey Fernando:
Good to hear from you. Still have your Bren Ten .45?

..Joe

FCoelho
May 8, 2004, 05:28 PM
No, the Bren was replaced with a Ducati 998. Having it just sitting there in the safe and not able to shoot it (no source for spare parts) was driving me nuts. Like the Bren, the Ducati is a limited edition (only 150 made), but at least with the Duc if something breaks I can get parts.

I wish the Bren Ten was something that could be brought back, but with what is out there today and the switch from full size carry to compact size guns, I don't ever see it happening.

joegerardi
May 8, 2004, 07:33 PM
Understood, but you have no idea of the gratitude I have for you for at least thinking aobut it.

..Joe

PS: I shoot my regularly.

WonderNine
May 8, 2004, 07:41 PM
I have some Quik Shok .22lr's that I really like. Now I won't be able to buy them anymore!!! :(

BluesBear
May 9, 2004, 07:53 AM
Quik-Shok .22 rimfire is made and marketed by CCI.
They are still in production.

Triton only had the rights to the center-fire stuff.

FCoelho
May 9, 2004, 01:53 PM
joegerardi - thank you. I appreciate that. I spent lots of time trying to determine if we could bring the Bren back to life. It was never a matter of money (thanks to the Miami Vice notoriety, the investor money was not a problem), it was a matter of marketability. Bringing the Bren back was also sort of a selfish move on my part because I really, really wanted to see the gun get a chance in the market. But once you crunched the numbers, in order to do this right we’d have to move a certain amount of guns per year to break even. Those numbers didn’t match what we thought we could sell.

BluesBear is right. CCI was making the Quik-Shok rimfire for Polywad, and then in an excellent move by Tom Burczynski, CCI began to market the Quik-Shok themselves.

M1911
May 9, 2004, 05:44 PM
Sooooo.....

What happened to Triton? I've followed the link, but there wasn't much info there. I gather it went under. But why?

FCoelho
May 9, 2004, 06:31 PM
It's easier to give you some links than to try to go into details.

So, here's one link (http://www.ambackforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=4991&highlight=triton#4991), and here is another (http://www.ambackforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=1221).

Jeff OTMG
May 10, 2004, 01:31 AM
Believe me, nobody out there wanted to see the Bren Ten resurected more than me. For parts you can try Tim LaFrance of LaFrance Specialities. Many, many original magazines are available from Larry Scherer (sp?) the same guy who makes the extended plastic knockoff Glock mags. He bought hundreds of mags from the maker when Dornus and Dixon couldn't pay for the mags they ordered for the guns.

polywad
February 15, 2006, 11:13 AM
Just to let ya'll know, the "Sabot Slug" version of the Quik-Shok continues to be available on Polywad's web site. See Polywad's shotgun slugs (http://www.polywad-shotgun-shells.com/quik-shok-sabot-slugs/) page. Also, just a few months ago, Polywad's entire site was revamped complete with a new user friendly and secure order entry system.

--R. McEwen, webmaster for Polywad

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