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JeepDriver
May 6, 2004, 11:07 PM
Just got word that a new locking system (non internal) has been approved for Maryland. It's called Visi-Lock (sp?)

It has to be installed in the gun when it is delivered to the customer, but it isn't a perment addition to the gun. I don't have all the info as it was just approved yesterday (Wensday) Once I have more info I will post it!

But as it looks right now all new guns will be avaliable for sale in Maryland!!!!

I got this info from my part time job at Continental Arms, They have already orrdered plenty of the new locks we should have more info w/in a week.

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slh02
May 7, 2004, 12:21 AM
AWESOME!!!

Harry Tuttle
May 7, 2004, 01:22 AM
www.visuallock.com
http://www.visualock.com/media/product_4.jpg

VisuaLock for Hand Guns and Revolvers

The new easy, fast, and safe gun lock.

Details
The Hand Gun VisuaLock combines complete security and the simplicity of an in-barrel lock. The security rod fastens to the security cartridge with a slim, convenient key and ensures the firearms remain inoperable to unauthorized use. The same key works on multiple VisuaLock devices. The VisuaLock is a California Approved Gunlock.

Price
$39.95

Norton
May 7, 2004, 09:18 AM
WooHoo! I see SIGs....:D

Mr. James
May 7, 2004, 10:20 AM
Was this the work of Thomas V. "Mike" "Oh-wait-a-minute-Beretta's-in-my-District" Miller, Jr.?

Riffraff
May 7, 2004, 10:35 AM
The work of Mr. Purtilo?

James Purtilo, firearms rights activist and editor of the Maryland Tripwire newsletter, has filed suit in Montgomery County Circuit Court requesting a judicial declaritory ruling on Maryland's "Integrated Mechanical Safety Device" requirement for new handgun purchases. Mr. Purtilo's suit claims that, as a non-disqualified individual he is administratively prevented from purchasing an approved firearm that meets the written requirements of the Public Safety Code.


Either way God less another victory this year in MD!!!!

Kharn
May 7, 2004, 10:41 AM
XD-40 time for me! Woot!
Now the question is, will I be able to bring the Visualock back to the gunstore should I decide I need another gun in the same caliber & barrel length? Er, I guess the better question would be, will gunstores trade used Visualocks towards store credit on a purchase of a new handgun with a (coincidently similiarly sized) Visualock installed? ;) ;)

Kharn

buy guns
May 7, 2004, 10:45 AM
so you guys couldnt buy new guns before this?

Kharn
May 7, 2004, 10:51 AM
Any handgun sold in MD that was made after Jan 1, 2003 had to have an integral safety lock.

Now the only problem is the ballistic fingerprinting, but its not too hard to find a pistol with spent casings.

Does anyone know if this lock thing will work on revolvers?

Kharn

Norton
May 7, 2004, 11:01 AM
DOH...I forgot about the spent casing thing. IIRC, this was also another thing that kept a lot of firearms off of the shelf in MD......the manufacturers felt that they didn't sell enough product in MD to justify the trouble of putting a spent shell in the case......

Maybe not having BOTH requirements will convince them that it is worth the time to have a shell casing for us MD folks.....

Gunfyter
May 7, 2004, 11:59 AM
I think that Riffraff hit the nail on the head. With Jim Purtillo filing the lawsuit they probably didn't want to look bad in the press anymore than they already did, so they approved the lock. At least now if I want a Wilson CQB, I can get one.

Mr. Mysterious
May 7, 2004, 12:22 PM
Freedom is gonna cost you at least $39.95. Definitely not cheap...

Harry Tuttle
May 7, 2004, 12:34 PM
This winter there was an opening on the handgun board
filling that opening permitted the committee to approve safety devices

the lack of a casing is still gonna inhibit sales
as there is no method for the shop to have casings logged for guns that do not include a sample

Kharn
May 7, 2004, 01:37 PM
Too bad they couldnt approve the shop owner shooting a round into a clearing bucket or other bullet trap and sending the casing in.

Kharn

JeepDriver
May 7, 2004, 02:28 PM
Freedom is gonna cost you at least $39.95. Definitely not cheap...

We will be selling them for $16.99

WooHoo! I see SIGs

That ain't no joke! As soon as we get the details sorted out I'll have a P226ST in 9mm! :D I may even order myself another 226ST in 357 Sig :evil:



XD-40 time for me! Woot

XD-9 Tatical for me right after the P226ST('s) :D

Norton
May 7, 2004, 02:34 PM
I had my hands on some of the SIG .45s up at the NRA meeting and boy were they nice......may have to reconsider that Springfield 1911 I was eyeballing

Kharn
May 7, 2004, 02:37 PM
JeepDriver:
Where's this gunshop you work at? (I'm moving to either Bel Air/Abingdon or White Marsh on June 1)

Kharn

Norton
May 7, 2004, 03:07 PM
That ain't no joke! As soon as we get the details sorted out I'll have a P226ST in 9mm! I may even order myself another 226ST in 357 Sig

You better stick with the 9mm....after all of that ammo I saw you go through the last time we had at Continental, it would get real expensive to maintain that habit with the .357;)

JeepDriver
May 7, 2004, 03:37 PM
JeepDriver:

Where's this gunshop you work at? (I'm moving to either Bel Air/Abingdon or White Marsh on June 1)


I work part time at Continental Arms in Cockeysville. It's about 12 miles from White Marsh if you end up around there (I'm in the White Marsh area) It's a bit further from Bel Air though.

You better stick with the 9mm....after all of that ammo I saw you go through the last time we had at Continental, it would get real expensive to maintain that habit with the .357

Yea, I'd have to reload or buy in bulk to be able to shoot it as much as I'd like to. :D Buying it by the box would bankrupt me quickly

JeepDriver
May 7, 2004, 03:42 PM
I had my hands on some of the SIG .45s up at the NRA meeting and boy were they nice......may have to reconsider that Springfield 1911 I was eyeballing

You're more then welcome to shoot my P220, If I can make the next shoot I'll be sure to have it with me.

P95Carry
May 7, 2004, 03:43 PM
Glad to hear this morcel of good news guys.:)

Bobster
May 7, 2004, 05:31 PM
Maryland always demanded that the dealer sell you a new gun lock with every firearm you walked out of the store with. Even if you brought a new one yourself. I have a bag full of them. On sale today for $7.95. (just what I paid for them. grrrrrr

Glad to hear about the new lock. That shell casing is such a joke and waste of money.


BOB

Norton
May 7, 2004, 08:43 PM
JeepDriver,

Once school's out, I may just have to make a trek up to Continental and check out that P220 of yours.....

Ironbarr
May 7, 2004, 08:50 PM
Do I assume that the security cartridge fits the chamber just as a normal round would?
Hate to see burrs, gouges, etc.

Do I assume that the security rod is of such metal that it won't damage the barrel, et al?
Folks is folks - they aren't all super careful.

Do I assume that the "convenient key" isn't so "convenient" that almost anyone could clone it to disable the "ensures the firearms remain inoperable to unauthorized use" claim?
Folks can be very "artistically inclined".

BTW... if that security cartridge had an appropriate primer area, at least you could dry fire (except for the weight and balance difference).

-IB

Kharn
May 7, 2004, 09:03 PM
Ironbarr:
On their homepage is a slightly larger picture, it looks like most of the rod is rubber or plastic coated, and the chamber insert does appear to be brass-colored.

Taurus's system is approved, and their website ("...and the same special Security Key works for both the revolver and pistol Systems..." Source (http://www.taurususa.com/safety/tss-pistols.cfm)) appears to indicate that the keys are the same between pistols and revolvers, so non-unique keys shouldnt be a problem.

Kharn

Spot77
May 7, 2004, 10:45 PM
wow.

This.....AND we killed the MD AWB.....


...AND I get to drive Senator Gianetti through a parade tomorrow.....

...I think I'll touch myself now.......:evil:

Norton
May 8, 2004, 08:00 AM
...I think I'll touch myself now.......

Won't it be tough to drive that truck if you go blind? :neener:

Spot77
May 8, 2004, 12:17 PM
Well....it won't matter.....it's only a Democrat in the back:neener:

chaim
May 9, 2004, 04:18 PM
Wow, if it works the way we seem to be hoping, this is great news. I'll believe it when I see it though. How is that external lock that locks through the barrel any more an internal lock than the old trigger locks? Maybe they were approved as internal locks, but with our AG, I'm sure Curran will try to find any way he can to block this (the fact that this isn't an internal lock and the law requires an internal lock seems to be a pretty big loophole- and I don't see how a regulatory board can override the written law on this).

I hope it is true though- I see Kahrs in my future, and Kimbers, and Springfield XDs, and......

MrPink
May 17, 2004, 10:29 AM
Back to the top on this one,

Anyone have an update?? Is this for real??

Crownvicman
May 17, 2004, 03:57 PM
I hope this is true. I'm stuck here for now so I hope to heck this is true. I really want a new ruger gp100.

bigjoegood1
May 17, 2004, 04:27 PM
Not sure where in MD you are but Schelin's in College Park has GP100s in stock. I just purchased a new KGP141 (4 inch stainless w/heavy bbl) a little more than a month ago and when I went in a couple of weeks ago, they still had a very few pre-2003 guns in stock. The price was about $559 (I know that's high but this is MD). You can call em at 301-345-1879. They are a mom and pop-type operation and keep some really odd hours. Best to call on a Saturday. between like 10am and 6.

MikeK
May 17, 2004, 06:34 PM
How did I miss this one on May 6th? Even with the $40 (or $17) ripoff at least we can buy some handguns again. As I recall the state police used to do the shell casing test for $20 at 2 or 3 convenient statewide locations. I believe they stopped that.

I was at the Gun Rack last week and no mention of it was made. Nothing from other sources either. I'll see if I can get any more info.

Harry Tuttle
May 17, 2004, 06:46 PM
Sandy Abrams at Valley gun will know

Valley Gun Shop
7719 Harford Rd.
PH: 410.668.2171

Maryland Licensed Firearms Dealers Association, Inc
P.O.Box 10237
Baltimore, MD 21234-9998
Phone: 410-668-2171 or 410-668-2172
Contact: Sandy Abrams

Harry Tuttle
June 2, 2004, 10:47 AM
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: press information
Contact: Rachel Gardner
rachel@omegagunlock.com

Marketing Department

OMEGA SAFETY SYSTEMS, INC., APRIL 28, 2004

Today, by a vote of 7-0, the Maryland Handgun Roster Board approved the Omega Internal Gunlock System as an Integrated Mechanical Safety Devise (IMSD). The Board approval is immediate and applies to all factory and/or aftermarket installations.

Prior to this approval, semi-automatic handguns could not be sold in Maryland unless they were equipped with an integrated lock mechanism that was built into the gun. The IMSD law that went into effect January 1, 2003 specifically left it up to the state’s Handgun Roster Board to interpret the law. The Board’s interpretation of that legislation then sets the policy for the state police enforcement.

With this new Handgun Roster Board approval, handguns that do not have an integrated locking mechanism built into the gun can now be legally sold in Maryland by having an Omega Internal Gunlock installed prior to the gun transfer.

According to the Maryland Firearms Dealers Association, Inc. there were more than fifteen handgun manufacturers who were previously not able to sell in Maryland. The Omega Internal Gunlock requires no manufacturing modifications to the firearm to achieve compliance. When the consumer removes the gunlock to use their gun, there are no mechanical gunlock parts left in the gun.

All gun manufacturers will again be able to sell semi-automatic handguns in Maryland. The process is simple: you need to supply a fired case in the "specified envelope" along with an Omega Internal Gunlock, which will then be installed by a licensed Maryland firearms retailer prior to sale and delivery of the gun to the customer.

The Handgun Roster Board approval can be verified with a phone call to Alyson Turner, the Board’s administrator at: 410-653-4451. The Omega Gunlock line is also California AB-106 compliant, having passed all U.S. Department of Justice testing. Information on the Omega Gunlock System can be obtained at:

Mail:P.O. Box 1517

Idyllwild, CA 92260

Web Site:www.omegagunlock.com

Phone:909-659-7778

Toll Free:866-850-9193

Fax:909-659-8881

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