[TheFrontRange]

Has anyone out there purchased the new Remington Model 710? I think I have the model number correct...the scoped bolt-action rifle with the grey synthetic stock, in any case. I saw one at Academy Sports and Outdoors, scoped, for $299 new. I believe the caliber was .270. Any impressions or comments on these rifles?

[swifter]

Big Green's rather arrogant presumption that the American public will buy anything.:fire:

Entry-level need not be junk.:cuss:
TOM

[chaim]

I take it you didn't like yours. He does sound like he's asking for the opinions of people who owned them.

Since I'm considering one too sometime this year, I'd find it helpful if you told us what you didn't like about it.

[Kahr carrier]

:confused:

[F=ma]

FYI: While crising their website awhile back, I noticed there is a small-scale recall on the 710's:

http://www.remington.com/safety/710/710.asp

[Stinger]

For a few $'s more, you can get a basic 700. Save up some more dinero, you won't be disappointed.

Stinger

[BHP9]

Stinger is correct

The plain jane Remington 700 with synthetic stock is 100 times the gun the 710 is and it can often be bought for almost the same price. The 710 with its mostly plastic stock and innards is complete trash. It cannot even be rebarreled. It was made largely for the once a year hunter who knows little or nothing about quality firearms.

I recently bought a used FN Sears rifle with an FN Supreme action for the paltry sum of $300 dollars. The FN Supreme was one of the finest rifle actions made in the history of the world so why would I even consider buying such trash as the Remington 710.

It is also amazing what people will pay for new rifles with $10.00 plastics stocks on them when their are so many fine old high quality used rifles for sale out there. Often they are sold for only a song complete with a scope and mounts that often cost you nothing extra.

[Ron L]

If money is an issue, you can spend about the same with a Savage package rifle. This is a much better rifle, and I hate to use this word, entry level rifle because it's not really an entry level, it's a great value and they are quite accurate.

A search here and on TFL will pretty much show low opinions of these rifles.

[swifter]

Chaim:

Truth is, I don't own one. One look at one was enough, especially when I found it can't be rebarreled:mad: . As someone else pointed out, for that money you can buy a Savage, which will be more out-of-the-box accurate, have some resale value, and can be customized& upgraded down the road. I'm sure there are some folks out there who think the 710s are wonderful, there are still gunowners who vote democRat, after all. :what:
Tom

[bad_dad_brad]

Hmm, interestingly enough, I was looking at bolt action .30-06s and took a look at the 710. I have read nothing good about them. Check the TFL database, do a search.

I think I will probably go with a 700 or a Savage 110.

And the durn thing is butt ugly as well:

[Watchman]

Ive shot one extensivley and Ive heard many negative comments about them, mostly from people that have never shot one.

All I can say is that I have never expeirienced the supposed problems that every one talks about.

The caliber is 30.06. I got it for my son and he has whacked several deer with it. Id take it anyday of the week over a Savage 110.

Yeah its different in the way its built. Lots of people dont like the plastic inserts in the action. Some think it feels cheap. Personally, I dont like the fact that it has plastic trigger guard, but it comes with a detachable magazine, sling swivels and a scope that is bore sighted form the factory. The first time we took it out, it was on the paper at 100 yards. With a bit of adjusting, it was right on the money a few shots later. With handloaded 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips clocking at 2840 FPS average, it was shooting 3/4 groups. It is a slim barrel and it will heat up and string shots so I limited strings to 3 shots groups.

For the money it is hard to beat. While its not a match gun, I think it does what its suppose to do. Fact of the matter is, its a hunting gun. Most people would be lucky to shoot a box of shells a year anyway. Even though most of here on this board shoot WAY more than that because we are firearm "enthusiasts" or we wouldnt be here in the first place.

Would I buy another ? In a heart beat. Would I reccomend it ? I would. It is a utility type rifle. It would be a great truck gun or 4 wheeler gun and its not so pretty that you would be afraid to use it. And its cheap. The Bushnell scope aint the best scope in the world but you should have no problem whacking 4 legged critters with it. Walmart had them on sale for 349. Buy any rifle, add the scope, the scope mounts, the sling studs and see what you come up with. Id be willing that youd have more in it than 349.

[bad_dad_brad]

Watchman,

You are right, I formed an opinion without ever having shot the thing. It is so cheap I am tempted to buy one just to have one. I am sure it is a lot better rifle than naysayers relate. Sometimes I think, because a firearm is new and different, that shooters just start hating the thing before they give it a chance. Remember what people (me included) used to think about the Glock. Plastic POS, etc., and now over 60% of law inforcement in the U.S. carry one, and I simply love mine.

It is ugly though, well, I guess the Glock is too.

[Watchman]

It is ugly without a doubt. But it does grow on ya after youve shot it. Like I said, I hate plastic trigger guards they just seem to "cheapen" the gun. The Glock is ugly. IMHO, its the ugliest gun made, but you cant deny that it works and works well. I hate the trigger on the thing, but even I scored a 248 on a possible 250 at qualifications on the range and I dont even carry it.

Im as guilty as the next guy when it comes to badmouthing something because they are ugly.As far as rifles go, the 710 aint pretty but it works.:what:

[TheFrontRange]

Thanks to all for the info! I've not even handled one of the 710s yet but have been wondering about them; ditto for the Savage 110s a few of you mentioned...Savage's "package" deal has looked pretty good to me, too.

[seeker_two]

The 710 is a GREAT concept--an affordable, light rifle in a good caliber for the new hunter or for a "backup" rifle. I'm disappointed to see that (Remington, of all companies) hasn't been able to make that concept work well.

The only 710 I've handled came w/ an action so rough that the gunstore owner had to offer free 'smith work to the buyer (still on the rack, last time I saw). A lot of people on TFL & other boards have had significant problems w/ the rifle too (I rule out "ugly" as a subjective term--except when applied to Glocks :evil: ). This, plus the safety recall, have made me rule it out as a second rifle. :(

What I would like to see is Remington redo the 710 concept to eliminate all the rough-action, iffy-accuracy, scary-safety problems to make it a TRUE VALUE. And I'd like to see them add .223 & 7.62x39 (w/ a true .311 bore) as caliber options (would make good "understudy" rifles). If they did this, I'd buy one of each! :D

OK, Remington--the gauntlet's been thrown. Let's see you pick it up...:cool:

[Rattler]

I have the 710, bought it on the word of a friend without ever shooting his. As Watchman said, out of the box, 100 yards, it was on the paper. Six rounds later I had a tight group, less than an inch. Put it away for almost a week, went shooting again and fully expected that I would have to fine tune the scope, not so, first 3 rounds right on the money.

The recall that's spoken about is for a possible problem with the safety detent spring. Info is here: http://www.remington.com/SAFETY/710/710.ASP

Ya, I agree, it isn't no Cristie Brinkley for sure, but it's a pretty sound weapon at a good price. for most of us, it will do the job just fine.

Take care all and enjoy our sport

Rattler

[JIMB]

Ive had my 710 for about a year and I think its a great rifle esp. for the money. I paid 230 something w/out the scope at a gun show for it. The trigger is very good, no creep and very crisp. It easily shoots under 1" at 100 yards and about 2" at 200 with rem 150g soft points. The trigger guard does suck but the stock is good compared to savages. All the savages I have held have very thin feeling flimsy stocks. The 710s have a lot fatter sturdier feeling stock, the ugly grey color sucks so I painted mine black and it looks much better. I would reccomend one. if they had one in 223 or 22-250 with a little fatter barrel I would buy another. And the barrel not being able to be replaced is no big deal unless you are a serious shooter but then i guess you prob wouldnt be buying this kinda gun anyways.

[bogie]

If you need an "occasional" rifle, go for it. They're made for the guy who will maybe fire 20 rounds/year through it.

It won't keep its value regarding resale either.

Get a used 700 or a Savage 10.

And a GOOD scope.

And shoot a lot.

[Art Eatman]

I've yet to read any complaint whatsoever about the accuracy. Most of the things which are disliked have nothing to do with the utility as a basic hunting rifle.

So they're not intended for the aficionado, for the purist, for those who care as much about aesthetics as the other features. So what?

:), Art

[Nero Steptoe]

Well, they also boast a cheapass, flimsylooking lousy bolt design. Pressed -in barrel. Just a cheap, crappy rifle...nowhere in the league of any Savage or a Remmy 700. (And yes, I have actually shot a couple.)

[WYO]

I have not shot one, and it is not on my list of things to buy. However, I recently said something negative about them to a knowledgeable sales person at Gart’s (now merged with Sports Authority), based upon my “Internet knowledge,” and he said that he had sold a lot of 710’s, and that he’s heard no complaints.

Until recently, the idea that I ever would have to rebarrel a rifle was a foreign concept, and after playing around on some other forums, it seems like the cost of rebarreling anything would exceed the initial cost of the 710. In any event, until a recent acquisition changed my perspective, I doubt that I had 400 total rounds through hunting rifles in the last 25 years.

BHP9 mentioned the cost of a synthetic 700 ADL as a few dollars more than the $299 offering price for the 710. In my neck of the woods, a non-discounted 700 ADL synthetic goes for about $439.

For someone who wants a basic hunting rifle, maybe it’s worth a look for the price. I’d probably sell the scope that comes with it and buy a better one. If it doesn’t work out, I bet you could sell the rifle and come out OK, and the good scope could go on the next one.

[Rattler]

Well, I hate to say it, but it looks like most of the people who dislike the 710 have spent 2 or 3 times the money on whatever they prefer and cannot outshoot the 710. I was at the range today and there were 2 guys who right off the bat started talking crap about the $350.00 710 when they saw mine. As with human nature, since I own one, it offended me and I spoke my peace. I was quickly challenged to a "$5.00 a bulls-eye" shooting contest. I speak the truth when I say I made $45.00 today with my bone stock out of the box 710 shooting 150 grain Remmington ammo. One of the guys who paid me was shooting a Savage 16BSS 7MM with a Leupold scope and the other guy was shooting a Remmington 7400 30.06 Weathermaster with a Redhead scope. The range was 150 yards. Quite honestly, I was pretty nervous and would have done better if I was more confident in the 710. Next time, I'll bring home the bank since I now have faith in this weapon. This is an accurate weapon and what else is any weapon good for if it can't shoot straight? (not taking into consideration the guy behind the trigger) Did I buy a fluke that is just right and shoots very well? Maybe. But I don't plan on chopping down trees or crossing swamps in scuba gear with this weapon. It will serve me as well as any weapon at any cost out there for I use it for, and that's to kill deer.

Sorry, I hate to be long winded on forum boards.

Take care all

Rattler

[only1asterisk]

At the risk of getting some serious hate mail, we did this a couple of months ago. My opinion hasn't changed. I would save/borrow/beg a $100 and buy a better made rifle. Even if I didn't intend to shoot much, even if I never intend to ever sell it. The 710 is no bargin.


David

[Gewehr98]

If you buy one, and it doesn't shoot or perform as well as it's non injection-molded and press-fit barreled brethren, you got a mighty fine jack handle! :D

Rattler, the majority of my gun collection costs just over 10x as much as that Remington 710, and the majority of the rifles in that collection will outshoot the 710, so I still reserve the right to talk poorly about Remington's disposable rifle. Too many beter guns out there with a better fit, finish, and design that can be purchased for less, if one keeps one's eyes open. New does not necessarily mean better.

[Art Eatman]

But, Gewehr, your points, although well taken, are irrelevant.

The 710 is better than needed insofar as hunting accuracy. It is as good or better than the average "Rifleman's Rifle", the pre-'64 Model 70.

It is not intended for those who put a rifle through harsh treatment. It is not intended for those who shoot many hundreds of rounds per year. It is not intended for benchrest competition.

I wouldn't be a customer for one, given my love of steel floorplates, decent walnut stocks and slender lines. But that's just me, and my sense of aesthetics is of no importance to anybody else.

It's a niche-market gun; there are people in that niche for whom it is quite useful--and their opinions are the only ones which are actually meaningful. The rest of us? Sure, we have opinions--but they don't really mean much except to us.

:), Art

[Gewehr98]

The gun is marketed towards those who run maybe 20 rounds through it for sight-in, then take it out to the woods each fall for venison. It doesn't matter to them that the bolt feels rougher than a cob as it cycles through the plastic receiver insert, or that other guns come from the factory with metal trigger guards. And that's fine, really. My wife and I just bought a new car, since we're expecting again. Kind of the Remington 710 of the car world, a Hyundai Accent. It serves it's purpose, it even came with cosmoline slathered all over the mechanicals. We're under no illusions that it is a Chrysler 300 M Class. Just like the 710 isn't a 700 BDL, or a Winchester Model 70. Let's just hope it doesn't set the standard. :(

[Art Eatman]

:D Amen to "...doesn't set the standard"!

Art