Another School Shooting


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mattf7184
May 7, 2004, 05:51 PM
Just heard it on the news, 5 people shot.

Just great! What we need, more ammo for the million idiots...

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jdege
May 7, 2004, 05:54 PM
In Maryland?

I thought it was against the law to carry a gun in a school in Maryland...

mattf7184
May 7, 2004, 05:56 PM
Yep just heard it was in Baltimore,Maryland. Dont they have gun control???

HogRider
May 7, 2004, 06:59 PM
Here is what I found just a few minutes ago in the news search. Good timing for a BMW ad. Like " BMW - the perfect getaway vehicle ".

Couldn't resist to take a screen shot.


http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=985340

Autolite
May 7, 2004, 08:19 PM
Hey, aren't 'black tinted windows' illegal too???

TXBera
May 7, 2004, 08:20 PM
They have a pretty good article on FOX news website - http://www.foxnews.com

Anyone heard what kind of weapon they were using? Maybe it is that ever elusive Assault Pistol.:confused:

[Tinfoil Hat]
It was mentioned some time ago to look out for an incident to happen right before the AWB sunsets.

Anyone else think that maybe they were on the payroll of the Brady Bunch? They were driving a BLACK BMW.:scrutiny:.
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thumbtack
May 7, 2004, 08:37 PM
Anyone else think that maybe they were on the payroll of the Brady Bunch? They were driving a BLACK BMW

:scrutiny: Are you serious?

TXBera
May 7, 2004, 09:00 PM
Thumbtack, you have a PM

Standing Wolf
May 7, 2004, 09:43 PM
The story is obviously a complete fake: the People's Republic of Maryland has some of the nation's most draconian so-called "gun control" laws to prevent crimes of this sort.

Uncle Doj
May 7, 2004, 10:16 PM
Not a school shooting... it was after hours at a charity basketball game on school grounds. Local news is playing up the "school shooting" angle and not mentioning that it happened after school let out.

stevelyn
May 7, 2004, 10:55 PM
Couldn't have happened in Baltimore. Didn't Chief Moose end crime there before he ...uhmm retired?
I hope they didn't use the Moose method of describing vehicles.

Snowdog
May 8, 2004, 06:15 AM
LMAO!

HogRider, that's a riot!
:D

molonlabe
May 8, 2004, 06:28 AM
Brian or Steve Gumball from WBAL news being his usual ignorant self said. "The weapon was probably one of those assault weapon that fire bullets automatically"

Shovelhead
May 8, 2004, 07:00 AM
In today's Washington Post Metro Section:


RANDALLSTOWN, Md., May 7 -- Four high school students were wounded Friday when at least two young men emerged from a car in a school parking lot and opened fire.



The shooting occurred about 4:30 p.m. outside Randallstown High School in Baltimore County, where a number of students were lingering after a charity basketball game between local politicians and school faculty members.

Three of the wounded youths were taken to Maryland Shock Trauma Center. One was undergoing surgery last night and was listed in critical condition; the other students' wounds were described as non-life-threatening. A fourth victim was taken to Sinai Hospital, Baltimore County Police Chief Terrence B. Sheridan said.

Police said they had found a car that appeared to match the description of the one used and were questioning one person in the attack.

Randallstown's principal said he did not believe that any of the students was a target of the attack. "These were all very strong academic kids," Tom Evans said.

The students' names were not immediately available, but police said that one was a basketball player and another one was a quarterback on the football team.

No specific motive for the shooting could be learned. But Evans said he believed that the shooting might have stemmed from a fight that broke out in the school cafeteria earlier in the week.

Baltimore County police officials gave this account of the shooting:

A black BMW with four people inside pulled into the parking lot of the school, and the driver emerged and fired four or five shots from a handgun into the crowd. The driver was described as between 17 and 25 years old and weighing 300 pounds.

After firing, the driver handed the weapon to another person from the vehicle, who fired several more shots.

Three people drove away in the car, and one fled on foot. All were said to be between 17 and 25 years old.

Two of the wounded students collapsed in the parking lot, and two others ran into the school.

Evans said that since the fight at the cafeteria, school officials had been struggling to head off further disruptions. "We had thought things had calmed down," he said. "And now this."

Evans said he was in his office when several students ran in, screaming about the shooting. He darted into the hallway, where he found one of the wounded students. "I stayed with him," he said. "He had been shot twice. He just said they started shooting."

Aria Harris, 15, a 10th-grader, said she is afraid to go back to school Monday. "Something else is going to happen," she said. "It's not going to end like this."

Latea Bell 15, a ninth-grader who lives across the street from the school, ran into her home when she heard the shots and did not come out until she heard the police sirens.

"You would never picture this at Randallstown," she said. "It's not that kind of school. There are fights, but no one comes up here shooting."

Anxious parents rushed to the school after learning about the incident.

Baltimore County Executive James T. Smith Jr. (D), who went to the scene, said he thought that the shooters were probably outsiders. "The people who did this came from outside this community," he said. "This is outrageous."

Norton
May 8, 2004, 07:10 AM
Not a violent school? This is from the Baltimore Sun.....check out the part about where the police have been called to the school 30 times this year. We have 3200 kids in our building and the city police have not been called at all this year as far as I know.



By Sara Neufeld
Sun Staff
Originally published May 8, 2004
When asked last month about the biggest challenges facing Randallstown High School, William Thomas cited a curriculum that he doesn't find sufficiently challenging and students who don't seem to care about their grades.

He said nothing about school violence.

Yesterday, Thomas was one of four Randallstown students shot outside the school after a charity basketball game. He was in critical condition last night at the Maryland Shock Trauma Center, according to a spokeswoman.

The Sun interviewed Thomas and several other students in his African-American history class last month about the 50th anniversary of the landmark Supreme Court ruling in Brown vs. Board of Education to desegregate American schools. A half-century later, Randallstown High is more than 95 percent black.

"It's not that Randallstown is a bad school," said Thomas, who moved two years ago from a majority-white high school in the Atlanta area. "It's just that the kids don't apply themselves as they should and as kids at predominantly white schools apply themselves."

Thomas, a senior with plans to study electrical engineering in college, added, "The students make it a bad school because they don't want to strive to do better."

Randallstown is a stronghold of Baltimore County's black middle class. Many families have moved there from Baltimore to get a better education for their children. Yet the school is troubled by high teacher turnover and low student performance.

It is also a school trying to overcome a reputation for violence. In the first half of the previous school year, the most recent period for which data are available, Randallstown High had called police to the building 30 times - more than any other Baltimore County high school. Many students interviewed said the school had calmed down significantly this year.

A new principal, Thomas Evans, has been trying to turn the school culture around. He has been working extensively on teacher training. He has plans to implement a new schedule with longer class periods and a system of "academies."

Evans, too, has said it is academic rigor - not violence - that is the school's greatest challenge. He said the school has had only a handful of significant fights this year.

"I would like to reassure parents that this is not typical of Randallstown High School or even typical of the Randallstown community," Evans said last night. "This was a freak incident. The kids are safe at our school. ... It's the world that's not safe."




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Shovelhead
May 8, 2004, 07:19 AM
A new principal, Thomas Evans, has been trying to turn the school culture around. He has been working extensively on teacher training. He has plans to implement a new schedule with longer class periods and a system of "academies."


Looks like they got that "Trigger-nometry" stuff down pretty good.

Shovelhead

BluesBear
May 8, 2004, 07:56 AM
He said the school has had only a handful of significant fights this year. And only ONE significant shooting!

Just what constitutes an insignificant fight? Is that one where nobody died?

Preacherman
May 8, 2004, 08:25 AM
The kids are safe at our school. ... It's the world that's not safe.
Oh, Mr. Evans... last time I checked, your school was still part of the world - or did I misread the situation???

greyhound
May 8, 2004, 10:18 AM
This is a pretty cold statement, but I don't think these types of incidents cause much outrage unless there are fatalities.

Also, this seems to be some sort of ongoing feud/fight among 2 groups as opposed to the "deranged gunman" type of shooting.

chaim
May 9, 2004, 03:34 PM
Well, this incident has me thinking a lot about CCW laws again (and makes me more likely to carry illegally from time to time- not saying I will of course). Why's that?


On Friday I was on my way to the area where Baltimore's Orthodox Jewish community is located. I was going to stay with a friend during shabbos (we can't drive on shabbos and I wanted to be in the main community this week). As I get closer I notice a much larger police presence and about a dozen police and news helocopters. It turns out the car was found about a mile or two from the community, and the one occupant who was arrested was found in a store right across the street from my old apartment:what: . He was just across the street from where the community began.

What's worse, there were four people in the car (and 2 actual shooters). One took off at the scene of the shooting, the other 3 took off in the car. Of those three, the car was 2 miles from the community, and the one who was caught was practically in the community. TWO of them weren't caught, and were likely in the area of the Baltimore Jewish community.

I was not pleased to hear this, especially since all my guns were at home (it would have been illegal for me to have been carrying, and since I wasn't on the way to the range it would have even been illegal for me to have them in the trunk to take to my friend's apartment). There were 2, possibily desperate, criminals on the loose in the area who had already shown no respect for human life by being part of a shooting (over a prior arguement). But of course, the antis (like my dad) insist that there is no good reason for normal citizens like myself to carry. It simply makes things more dangerous both for us and others:banghead: .

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