$$ Mag Springs$$ Holy Crap!


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bigjim
May 9, 2004, 10:21 AM
Geez I want to replace my old mag springs after years of heavy use.

I have 60 Mags. Wolf wants almost 300 dollars if I order direct via the WEB!!!!!!!!!!!

Anybody know where to get good springs cheaper?

Geez!

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1911Tuner
May 9, 2004, 11:02 AM
Howdy mah fren,

If you're in good stead with a dealer, you can order from Brownells
for a little under 12 bucks for a 3-pack of springs...Retail is $17.50.
Be sure to have your dealer or gunsmith notify them of their FFL
status. Pay the $7.50 shipping charge and in about 5 days, the UPS
man will drop'em off at your door.

Luck!

Tuner

stans
May 9, 2004, 09:43 PM
Quality costs money, Wolff is one of the best out there. Their recoil springs cost a lot more than the no-name springs I see at gun shows, but the Wolff springs are consistant and last longer than the cheap springs.

Jim K
May 9, 2004, 11:12 PM
Hi, bigjim,

Just curious, but are the mags failing or are you just replacing springs because you think you should.

One of the more interesting ideas going around is that everyone should replace all the springs in their guns and magazines all the time whether they need it or not. I doubt some of the folks ever shoot their guns, as they are too busy replacing springs.

Jim

sm
May 9, 2004, 11:52 PM
Mr. Keenan makes a great point.
And if they ain't changing springs, they are cleaning or bolting stuff on and off. Saves ammo tho'.

I'm not a gunsmith and I ain't smart, still learning. Now I have used Wolff springs, great quality...

Old Gunny when I was 6 told me something, heard it repeated by my uncle and other folks that I consider mentors.

The user knows the firearm from USE, and a relationship develops. The firearm will advise what, where and intervals of attention and maintenance.
All you got to do is pay attention and listen. Inspect, maintain and don't obsess.

Growing up poor has its rewards, I did not know about Wolff...When a mag needed attention we replaced with the USGI springs or the ones from Colt.
I ran over one once, fell off the tailgate. Kept the innards , mag body split. Just kept parts, kept eyes open for parts...made do.

I didnt't start marking mags till a few yrs ago. If it needed attention it was put aside and fixed.

Problem came up with more modern guns. Some guns only wanted to run with certain guns. Sure was easier when everything was spec'd and 7 rds.

bigjim- I betcha not all need replacing, I'd mark 'em and run 'em. You don't say what make ( s) you have. Yep tho' Wolff is the way to go most times- don't rule out the factory springs and followers on those factory Colts either...they lasted this long didn't they?

Keep us advised what and how this plays out.

bigjim
May 11, 2004, 09:50 PM
Guys its a lot of work to figure out which of the 60 mags needs a new spring. Wanted to take the easy way out.

Walt Sherrill
May 12, 2004, 09:24 AM
You should be able to do a simple check by just comparing the resistance of the spring of a known good mag to others, when inserting ammo. Really weak springs make themselves known by letting the follower drop too easily.

Sixty mags is a lot, but chances are you haven't shot them all an equal amount during the "years" in question. I'm sure some got used more than others, and many of the others may not need replacement. Note: they don't go bad by setting around unused, by setting around empty, or by setting around full. They go bad by being WORKED, flexed, loaded and unloaded, and used when firing ammo.

(Sounds like you've got more money than time... Guess that's a good problem, in some ways...)

bigjim
May 12, 2004, 10:32 AM
Hi Walt,
Not rich but shooting is what I enjoy in life. More important to me than anything else but my wife. I just like to shoot........period.

I guess will have to take some little round colored stickers to the range and start keeping track of mags that need new springs. I just never thought that springs would be so costly. Seems like once you tool up to make them, develop a web store, market to retailers ( Brownells) the cost of spring production would drop to near Zero. You would think the prices would come down at some point...... :(

Walt Sherrill
May 12, 2004, 02:26 PM
The cost of a product has little to do with what it sells for...

That's the art of marketing.

(From what I've read, Glocks probably cost less to make than a Hi-Point pistol, but you don't see them selling for anywhere near the same price.)

I probably have a few more than 60 mags, and 25-30 for my CZ-75-based guns (originals and clones), alone. And, yeah, getting new mags can be financially intimidating. (I generally buy a Wolff 10-pack when I get them. Still hurts.)

I think I've replaced 25 mags springs this past year...

Dave Sample
May 12, 2004, 08:14 PM
What's cheap is expensive.

Highland Ranger
May 12, 2004, 09:08 PM
You're not carrying or competing with all 60 mags . . . . so although annoying, relability is not paramount.

Change those few you carry or compete with, the others that you practive with, use them till they fail. When they fail consistenly (failure to feed last round etc.) then change them as needed.

BTW, $300 or even the $280 that tuner mentioned you could get them for doesn't sound like a lot of money for that many springs . . .

Walt Sherrill
May 12, 2004, 09:24 PM
When you buy the 10-packs directly from Wolff, they are about $4.75 each. Don't know if you can get them cheaper from Brownells -- never thought to check. (I have an 03 FFL...)

yankytrash
May 12, 2004, 09:33 PM
Just a thought - sell maybe 10 or 20 mags of unknown quality and use the proceeds for new springs in the rest.

Or, buy $300 worth of new mags instead of springs, and sell all of what you have now. Use proceeds to pay yourself back for the $300 worth of new mags, and buy a couple cases of ammo to start wearin'm out.:D

More po' folk financial wizardry.... ;)

BluesBear
May 13, 2004, 09:23 AM
You would think the prices would come down at some point. It's called the law of Supply and Demand.

The manufacturer has all of the Supply so they can Demand whatever in the heck they want for them.

45auto
May 13, 2004, 11:20 AM
CMC sells their mag springs for $4.00 including shipping. I don't know if they will fit mags other than CMC, and they are 8 round springs.

Wilson, I read, will replace them free...if they don't work in your gun. You may have to send them in though!

1911Tuner
May 13, 2004, 02:16 PM
CMC sells their mag springs for $4.00 including shipping.

Those would be Wolff 8-round mag springs. If you qualify for the discount from Brownells, they're about $3.45 a copy. Those are the same springs that McCormick puts in their Powermags. On the Shootin' Stars, I ain't gotta clue...but those are pitiful.

Luck!

Tuner

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