Someone's probably shopping for a gun today.


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BryanP
May 9, 2004, 12:58 PM
LAST NIGHT, NO SLEEP. TODAY, SHOPPING FOR A GUN: A woman in Keystone,
Colo., woke up her husband at 4:00 a.m. saying their son was struggling
with an intruder. Greg McMurray ran to his son's bedroom and confronted
a man, later identified by police as Kristopher Zeller, 34. The 8-year-
old boy broke from Zeller's grasp and his father then started work on
persuading Zeller to leave by prodding him with a barbell. When that
failed, he picked up a golf club and started hitting Zeller with it.
Every time he knocked Zeller down he got back up. After breaking two
clubs on the man, McMurray switched to an iron fireplace poker, which
was bent out of shape by Zeller's head. Zeller finally left the
residence and was captured nearby. "It's a very strange case," said
sheriff John Minor. "I have no clue what this guy was thinking."
(Summit Daily News, Denver Rocky Mountain News) ...My guess: "Ow. Ow.
Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow...."

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TXBera
May 9, 2004, 01:07 PM
The b/g was prob hopped up on Meth or other simular drug and not thinking very much.

BlkHawk73
May 9, 2004, 01:42 PM
You watch, the b/g or his family will sue the golf club company and the fireplace poker maker while the b/g himself gets a slap on the wrist and set free. What a great country we live in.:banghead:

Yeah, and watch the Golf clubs were proberly made by Ruger too.:p

sturmruger
May 9, 2004, 01:43 PM
Wow that is a scary story. I wonder if the BG had to go to the hospital. That is a lot of abuse for one person to take. If that happened in my house there would be one really dead bad guy.

Hemicuda
May 9, 2004, 01:54 PM
Biggest problem I see is that the homeowner "didn't use enough gun"... I think a 12 Ga. shotgun might have worked MUCH better than a golf club or a fireplace poker!

Snowdog
May 9, 2004, 03:32 PM
I think a 12 Ga. shotgun might have worked MUCH better than a golf club or a fireplace poker!

No, I'm pretty sure most shotguns would have broken over the guy's head too.

:D

Seriously, sometimes it takes a wake-up call like this to give pause to anti's and fence sitters and question their priorities: Do they continue to pull the status quo or do they step up to the responsibility of providing security for their family.

QuickDraw
May 9, 2004, 03:43 PM
The homeowner didn't "use enough club".:D
A 1 wood would have probably had enough "drive".
Scary story.

QuickDraw

PaladinVC
May 9, 2004, 03:54 PM
Holy smokes. Maybe he should be shopping for a sword, or an axe. I'm impressed that an eight-year-old held his own against this guy until dad showed up. Bent a poker on his head? Holy crap! That's some Wile-E-Coyote stuff right there.

A few of the little clips and re-enactments we saw in the police academy had things like this. One time, two cops were taking on a single subject, and they shot him four times in the chest. He killed one of the police officers with her own gun and proceeded to wrestle with the other cop. The cop put a .357 through the dude's torso from right to left, the guy grunted, "You got me good that time" and then started whaling on the cop with a pipe. The cop eventually shot the dude in the face, ending the fight, but nobody left that fight before the medics showed up to carry them. Whew.

4v50 Gary
May 9, 2004, 04:30 PM
Must be a druggie or just plain vanilla nuts.

Minor Lesson: Never use a golf club where a cluebat is needed.

Major Lesson: A club is a poor substitute for a gun.

Standing Wolf
May 9, 2004, 06:07 PM
Someone's probably shopping for a gun today.

I sincerely hope so!

Tom Servo
May 9, 2004, 06:17 PM
(...)his father then started work on
persuading Zeller to leave by prodding him with a barbell
Good lord, I hope that weight equipment was registered!

The Brady crowd will point to this and say, "See? You don't need a gun to defend your home!" Personally, no matter what I may have laying about, the first thing I'd go for would be a gun. The two problems I see with this are a) that the assailant will live to perhaps sue, and b) that the whole ordeal took too long to end. The assailant, if he can withstand that kind of abuse, could have broken off and gone after the wife or kids.

another okie
May 9, 2004, 07:04 PM
PaladinVC: The case you are thinking of is Baton Rouge, LA., 1977, Steve Chaney was the officer who killed John Mullery, the man who took away Linda Lawrence's gun and killed her with it.

Dr.Who
May 9, 2004, 07:11 PM
I sure would like to know what that B/G was on. He took a fireplace poker over the head and finially was convinced to walk out the door??? Not even considering the golf clubs.... Geezzz

I wonder how many rounds it would of taken to knock him down???:confused:

stevelyn
May 9, 2004, 07:47 PM
It's fortunate that things didn't turn out any worse for the family than what they did.
It is my sincerest wish that they not only out gun shopping today, but are relating this story and their decision to friends and family. People who themselves may be 2A fence sitters or even antis, and convincing them this could happen to them too.

Preacherman
May 9, 2004, 08:08 PM
his father then started work on persuading Zeller to leave by prodding him with a barbell.
That's barbellous! :D

BryanP
May 9, 2004, 08:18 PM
That's barbellous! :D

Oh Preacherman. I thought better of you. I might expect one of the other dumbell's on this board to weight in with such a comment, but you?





Aw, who am I kidding? :neener:

seeker_two
May 9, 2004, 08:38 PM
Oh Preacherman. I thought better of you. I might expect one of the other dumbell's on this board to weight in with such a comment, but you?

It can be a heavy burden to bear sometimes, eh, Preacher....;)

El Tejon
May 9, 2004, 09:13 PM
While this article does give me a LIFT (weightlifting, get it?), I cannot imagine a Red Residence without a firearm!:eek:

Is this one of those 'burbs filled with men with goatees and sandals???

Crikey
May 10, 2004, 11:49 PM
"A woman in Keystone, Colo., woke up her husband at 4:00 a.m. saying their son was struggling with an intruder. "

In this house, the husband (me) would have been awakened by the sound of 6 .38 SCL +P shots...pause... and probably 6 more :)

Aren't those 'good' people meant to just dial 911 in situations like this?

Cheers,
Mike.

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