Need pro-gun expert for TV


May 9, 2004, 02:00 PM
Hello, all--

I work at TV station "somewhere in California". Take a look at this that came off the wires, then please read my request below.

Million Mom Marchers Kick Off National Campaign to Save the
Assault Weapons Ban
To: National Desk
Contact: Peter Hamm of the Million Mom March United With the
Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, 202-289-5792

WASHINGTON, May 9 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The following was
released today by the Million Mom March United With the Brady
Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence:

-- "Halt the Assault Tour" Will Travel Across the Continent to
Raise Public Awareness of Pending Expiration of Landmark Law --

Thousands of committed activists today kicked off a national
campaign to save America's assault weapons law, scheduled to
expire in September, after a day of pleas that President Bush
keep his campaign promise to rescue the ban.

The activists waved farewell to a 26-foot pink recreational
vehicle that will travel the nation and stop in dozens of cities,
starting with a visit to the site of the Liberty Bell in
Philadelphia this coming Thursday. The tour will cover at least
20 states and include stops at both the Democratic and Republican
national conventions.

"America doesn't want to turn back the clock, and see these
reckless killing machines return to our streets just as our
children are going back to school," said Shikha Hamilton,
national spokeswoman for the Million Mom March. "President Bush
has the power to save the assault weapons ban. All he has to do
is pick up the phone."

"There are 127 days left, beginning today, before the assault
weapons ban expires. There are only about 50 legislative days
left -- when Congress can receive President Bush's clear call for
action on renewal," said Michael Barnes, president of the Brady
Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence united with the Million Mom
March. "We will not rest. We will do everything we can to
ensure that all Americans are aware of this deadline. There are
literally lives hanging in the balance."

The kickoff followed a day of observances and entertainment.
Speakers included renowned American leaders from the religious
community like the Rev. Jesse Jackson, writers including best
selling authors Richard North Patterson and Marianne Williamson,
public health leaders including former Surgeon General Dr.
Antonia Novello and special guests from the entertainment world
including commentator Jamie Foster Brown, comedian Richard
Belzer, rapper Doug E. Fresh, folk singer Peter Yarrow and jazz
singer Barbara Montgomery, a Million Mom March leader.

The "Big Pink Rig" will be visiting, among many other cities,
Richmond, Virginia; Raleigh, North Carolina; St. Louis, Missouri;
Minneapolis, Minnesota; Milwaukee, Wisconsin; Cleveland, Ohio;
Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania; Portland, Maine;
Boston, Massachusetts; New York, New York; Detroit, Michigan;
Denver, Colorado; Albuquerque, New Mexico; Phoenix, Arizona;
Portland, Oregon; and Seattle, Washington. The Rig will likely
tour California, New Hampshire, Indiana, Illinois and other
states as well.

In each city where the Rig stops, local gun violence
prevention advocates and victims and survivors of gun violence
will enlist the support of law enforcement, spiritual leaders,
elected officials and public health officials to urge President
Bush to get Congress to renew the law.

For more information on the tour, visit
/U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/

Okay, so what I'm wondering. Can any of the THR folks recommend someone with good credentials who can argue the pro side of things? It would need to be someone who is in the San Diego County area.


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May 9, 2004, 02:44 PM
If no one else steps to the plate, I would be willing. I would hope to have some time to prepare to rebutt this womans lies.

Reasons I am not the best choice:
1. Only credential is that I am a former Marine.
2. I am fat. I will perpetuate the stereotype of "fat, white, male gun-lover"

However, I am level-headed and speak well under pressure.

May 9, 2004, 03:00 PM
Calling Jim March...come in Jim...

Jim March
May 9, 2004, 03:09 PM
Ya, I can handle this. It'd be a long motorcycle ride but worth it :).

About me: I'm the California field rep for the Citizen's Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms ( - I'm also a registered state lobbyist.

I've been a "professional" in this area of activism for...lesse, about 8 months now.

I've been active in the self defense rights movement since 1997.

I'll discuss this further with the gent who posted above in EMail.

May 9, 2004, 03:30 PM
It seems like everyone in Congress is afraid to touch the issue, after so many who voted for the AWB were voted out.

May 9, 2004, 04:42 PM
It doesn't seem like the pink anti-gun bus will be in California for a few weeks, yet. But if does come to SD County, it would be helpful if our station could get another point of view. We seem to have a hard time finding the other side locally when these stories come up.
I'd be appreciative if you'd email me: I'd like to present a balanced report when the time comes to cover this.

Thanks a lot,

May 9, 2004, 05:06 PM
Ha, I'd like to see the bus roll into Northern Idaho or Wyoming.. :)


Tom Servo
May 9, 2004, 05:13 PM
What, they're not coming to Atlanta? They could have a nice stop-off in Kennesaw, where I'm sure they'd be ESPECIALLY well-received...

Jim March
May 9, 2004, 07:46 PM
Mr. Waldron, did you get my EMail, titled "Gun-related TV show..."?

You should also be aware that if we're talking about the "Million Mom March", they are now a different organization from the original. The original was destroyed in a financial scandal some years back, in which they were proven to have defrauded the city and county of San Francisco of between $5mil and $8mil over the course of almost a decade.

I was the one that broke that scandal and caused them to do a "midnight move" :). The "brand name" was bought out by Sarah Brady's "Handgun Control Inc" back east, which is now called "The Brady Center For Somethingorother Allied With The Million Mom March"....see also

The full chronicles of how Nadja Adolf and I took down these con artists is at:

Pay particular note of the front-page SF Chronicle article of 4/12/01, the text of which is linked.

May 9, 2004, 08:56 PM
Yes sir, I did get your email, and a response has been sent.


May 9, 2004, 10:12 PM
Is this coming to San Diego? If it is I'll be on it like stink on Feinstein.

May 10, 2004, 12:26 AM
No stops in Texas or Oklahoma are planned either. Gee, maybe they figure that it wouldn't do any good.

May 10, 2004, 12:43 AM
reckless killing machines This in particular really sticks in my craw ..... classic verbage. As ever .. ''the guns'' are solely and singularly responsible for mayhem!!

I guess it's the only way they know how - to hype the rest of the anti camp.

Hope Jim can help with a suitable rebuttal.

Jim March
May 10, 2004, 12:54 AM
There's really only two core issues:

1) Is armed self defense legal, moral and practical?

2) What are the real causes of societal violence?

ANYthing else is a distraction.

The most common distraction is "Goldilocks Gun Control". "This gun is too big, this gun is too ugly, this gun is too small ("Pocket Rocket"), this gun is too accurate, this gun is too cheap and inaccurate."

Ad nauseum.

May 10, 2004, 04:38 AM
I don't live in Cali, but I'd be glad to help in anyway possible. I won't claim to be an expert, just an opinionated egotisical smart ass.

I watched the c-span coverage of the Million Mom March, and I laughed so hard I cried. I loved the fact that not only was the representative of the Hip Hop Summit there stating that hip hop is supportive of the march, but that Ludacris' mother was there. God that was hilarious. I also love that
c-span and all other coverage of the rally never said a word about the counter rally by the Second Amendment Sisters that took place across the street at the same time.

May 10, 2004, 07:20 AM
I see they're coming to Raleigh... I tend to get irritated and short with these types of people, but you can bet I'll be standing there lending a voice to their naysayers. Is there anyone in Raleigh that would like to step up to the plate to argue against them? I'll handle the coordination of someone is willing to lend their .02.

May 10, 2004, 07:35 AM
I am about a 2 hour trip from Raleigh coming from Eastern Carolina and you give me a date, time, and place and I will be there.

May 10, 2004, 08:03 AM
Excellent! I'll keep and eye out and do some research to see if I can pinpoint when they'll be in Raleigh. I'll also contact GRNC and see if we can organize a counter demonstration that'll overshadow them both numerically and intellectually... ok, one of us overshadows them intellectually, it's more the numerically side that we need to show.

May 10, 2004, 08:06 AM
Well lookee here... smack dab on their website!

Million Mom March (

May 9 Washington, DC
May 18 Richmond, VA
May 20-22 Raleigh, NC
May 26 Trenton, NJ
June 1-3 St. Louis, MO
June 3-4 San Antonio, TX
June 7-10 Minneapolis, MN
June 14-15 Milwaukee, WI
June 26-29 Cleveland, OH
July 2-7 Pittsburgh, PA
July 9-13 Philadelphia, PA
July 17-19 Phoenix, AZ
July 18-20 Portland, ME
July 22-23 New Hampshire
July 25-28 Boston, MA
August 1-2 Detroit, MI
August 2-3 Denver, CO
August 10-11 Seattle, WA
August 16-17 Portland, OR
August 23-24 Albuquerque, NM
August 29-31 New York City
September 1 New York City
September 13 Assault Weapons Ban Expires

May 10, 2004, 11:44 AM
lwaldron - I would be happy to do it and have appeared on tv for Gun Owners of America and the Second Amendment Sisters in the past, but it'd be a bit of a stretch from Virginia...

Have you tried asking here?

May 10, 2004, 12:39 PM
Cool they're coming to NH. As the Second Amendment Sisters state chapter pistol instructor I think I can round up a welcoming committee.

May 10, 2004, 01:16 PM
Iwaldron, thanks for coming to the forum for help. Jim March is a good source.

Now, I'm just dying to ask a few questions. Are you on-air personality, research, management, etc. for the station. Do you have any concept of how rare your question is for pro-second amendment supporters to hear? We get an occasional request for help from students in debate class and a few other requests for source information. To the best of my knowledge we've never heard from the eeevil big media for help in getting it right.

BTW, if answering these questions will out you contrary to your wishes, ignore me.

Oh, Welcome to THR!

May 10, 2004, 01:22 PM
what no visit to TN !!!!

are they affraid of a few rednecks that drive 4x4's the have really big tires, with a rebel flag in the rear window, no teeth, spittin chew, overall wearing beer drinking and anyother stereo-typical thing I can think of!!!!!!

:what: :neener:

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
May 10, 2004, 01:32 PM
I think it's wise for anyone driving a pink RV to try to stay clear of the red states, no matter what their political affiliations and aspirations.

I'm not going to mention any bumper stickers that might be found on said pink RV.


May 10, 2004, 02:17 PM
what no visit to TN !!!!

are they affraid of a few rednecks that drive 4x4's the have really big tires, with a rebel flag in the rear window, no teeth, spittin chew, overall wearing beer drinking and anyother stereo-typical thing I can think of!!!!!

Oleg is a redneck?!!!! :what:

May 10, 2004, 10:47 PM
I'm what's called an Assignment Editor. And, yes, working in this biz, I know folks with a positive understanding of firearms are rare in news. Not perhaps as rare as you might think, though. A number of the guys behind the camera own guns. Very rare for the on-camera types, though.
Ever since I accepted a job here in California, I've noticed how difficult it is to find sources for the pro-gun side of the issue (there are plenty of Handgun Control Inc. types). I figured posting a request here at THR would get some action. And it did.
Now, if only there were more good places here to go shooting.

May 11, 2004, 04:09 AM
You need to bump this to the L&P forum where the politicos and public speaker types hang out.

May 11, 2004, 08:45 AM
Hey Moderator!

I second jimpeel's suggestion. Move this thread to L&P.

The calvary ought to be riding by any time now.

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