headbutt in wally world


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mwithers72
May 10, 2004, 11:54 AM
Well I was walking past the toys in Wally world yesterday had to get some grilling items. Had my Beretta 92F in a uncle mikes rig on my hip (3 o'clock) under a cover garment. When out of the blue this kid comes running full speed around the end of a toy isle and ran into me. All I heard was a loud "thud" I look back and the kid is rubbing his forehead because he ran into the butt of my Beretta. He said that he was sorry for running into me and went on his way still rubbing his forehead.

I made sure everything was still in place and carried on. Just makes me wonder as to how things could have went bad ( I.E. loss of control of weapon, etc)

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Evil_Ed
May 10, 2004, 12:00 PM
Yup, never know when something weird could happen. That's why I always use a good holster and discourage people from so called "mexican" carry.
As long as the weapon is securely holstered you won't have any problems. Kid probably assumed he ran into your cell phone or pager.

walking arsenal
May 10, 2004, 12:11 PM
I had somthing similar happen to me once, kid ran into my glock on my hip so hard i actually heard a clank. He went down, then up, then to momma, poor lil bugger.

mwithers72
May 10, 2004, 12:22 PM
I am very concerend about the small things I guess. I have only been carring for about 7 months now and I was so glad that the rig was a retention (sp??) rig. Only comes out with a straight up pull.


BTW.. stupid question comming.........

what is "mexican" carry ??


i told you it was a stupid question :rolleyes:

buy guns
May 10, 2004, 12:23 PM
hehe thats kind of funny. for how little kids are, you would think they would have an easier time avoiding peoples legs.


what is "mexican" carry ??


thats when you keep your gun under your sombrero :D.

ChristopherG
May 10, 2004, 12:27 PM
'Mexican carry':

Carry in waistband w/no holster; just jam it in and go. Inadvisable with most guns and most of the time (retention issues, uncovered trigger issues, etc.), though I will confess to sticking a J-frame in there once in a while. With the right grip and belt, it's got a little waistline that holds it very securely, and the trigger (on top of being long and heavy) is behind a wide gunbelt. But with a Glock, or for that matter any flat bottom-feeder? No thanks.

Anyone know the etymology or story behind this term?

Zundfolge
May 10, 2004, 12:30 PM
LOL

I posted about a similar thing that happened to me at McDonalds ... at the time it happens its pretty much a "pucker" moment ... but afterward its kinda funny :p


Yeah lady, thats what happens when you don't keep your brat under control
:evil:


Anyone know the etymology or story behind this term?
I imagine it comes from cops who took a lot of pistols off of Mexicans who carried that way. :confused:

mwithers72
May 10, 2004, 12:41 PM
"pucker" moment has to be the very best way to describe it!!:what:

FThorn
May 10, 2004, 12:42 PM
Isn't there an Uncle Miguel's ?

BluesBear
May 10, 2004, 12:54 PM
I always heard that the term Mexican Carry came about because of the habit of Mexican officers of simply stuffing pistolas into the red sash they wore around their waist instead of using a holster.

Esentially it means holsterless carry.

I guess is sounds better than Pirate Carry of Bucaneer Carry.

Preacherman
May 10, 2004, 12:56 PM
"pucker" moment has to be the very best way to describe it!!
Actually, given the circumstances, I think that "packer" moment is a better description... :D

Baba Louie
May 10, 2004, 01:17 PM
"Honey, what IS that funny shaped bruise on little Billy's forehead?"

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
May 10, 2004, 01:23 PM
I have a friend who has a sign in his shop, where he sells glass items...

"If you can't control your child by the hand, try controlling him by the throat".


Works for me.

Regards,
Rabbit.

DadOfThree
May 10, 2004, 01:44 PM
At least that kid didn't know what he ran into. My 4 yr old son did the same thing to me in Wal-Mart. Only after the "thunk" came the loud announcement "Daaaad, I hit my head on your gun" That turned a few heads. :D :D

yesterdaysyouth
May 10, 2004, 01:51 PM
somewhere in nashville there's a boy running around trying to explain the circled PB on his forehead... it's the mark of the devil!!:evil:

now that's funny...

Quartus
May 10, 2004, 01:53 PM
Friend of mine has taught her children to ALWAYS use the term "restroom" instead of "toilet" or "bathroom", because whatever they say at home is what you'll hear across the mall some day.

:D


That's why I always use a good holster and discourage people from so called "mexican" carry.



Actually, I think there are two better terms for "Mexican carry", depending on the reason for using it:

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Emergency carry. Should be self explanatory. Sometimes it's all you've got.

Idiot carry. Also self explanatory.
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cordex
May 10, 2004, 01:58 PM
"Someone child-whipped my pistol!"

mwithers72
May 10, 2004, 02:03 PM
somewhere in nashville there's a boy running around trying to explain the circled PB on his forehead


LOL!! that mental image will make me chuckle for a long time to come!!!

"Daaaad, I hit my head on your gun

that sounds like what my son would say.

Andrew Rothman
May 10, 2004, 02:53 PM
I wear a SmartCarry. It has saved me from overly energetic kiddies on more than one occasion.

Little skulls are hard. Steel is harder. :)

ChristopherG
May 10, 2004, 02:59 PM
Cordex; three cheers for 'child-whipped my pistol'; and another three cheers for the Firefly tagline!

Guy B. Meredith
May 10, 2004, 03:22 PM
The rotten brats need to have parents that will teach them to be courteous around other people. There is no excuse for kids running around stores or, in my case, riding scooters in a crowded seating area and repeatedly coming within 2 inches of running into people.

If it takes a bash in the head on a CCW to learn, that is okay.

Ironbarr
May 10, 2004, 04:23 PM
Horrors!! I can see it now - along with "security" locks, every holster, concealed or not, shall require appropriately certified 5 MPH bumpers.

Insurance will become available at some ridiculous add-on-to-your-umbrella-policy premium.

Doctors will report all head/gun collision statistics.

Antis will pick up on this and demand misdemeanor/felony penalties for CHOP (Child's Head On Pistola) events.

Pro-gunners will ask for personal carry anti-collision electronic systems and cry about insurance rates.

Holster makers will cave in and provide 10 MPH bumpers for "good faith" and demand federal legislation to protect them from trivial law suits - bill(s) fail.

Politicos will appease the "for the children" crowd with "bumper" legislation, tying in some nefarious way to the Patriot Act.

Leos will stop important work, ask for and be provided holster-sensing devices and turn to spotting unbumpered holsters. Additionally, since the law givers neglect the details, Leos, now able to easily spot printing, are popping misdemeanors as required.

Mothers, now easily identifying bulging bumpers, warn their chidren about "baaaad men with GUNS", much like "I'll give you to that policeman if you don't obey me" of yesteryear.

Holster designers will work feverishly experimenting with "slim, lite, space-age" materials to reduce bumper print effect.

////

I suppose there could more effects: less MPG due to extra weight; extra-wide car/truck seats for "carry" groups off to higher education; garments made-to-order in attempt to negate bumper bulge. Even more.

Wouldn't doubt it a bit.

Hope there are no problems, mwithers72.

-Andy

mwithers72
May 10, 2004, 04:33 PM
Most of the time the toy area is just a place to send Lil' jimmy while mom and dad shop so they don't have to deal with kids. Let walmart baby sit!! odds are that the parents didn't know the location of their child anyway!!.:fire: :cuss:

If parents watched after thier kids in walmart they would not have people walking out with them!!!!!!!:cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

sorry I will get off my soap box now

loose cannon
May 10, 2004, 04:51 PM
the mark of the pb was bad what if mwithers had been wearing a 1911 with those southern comfort grips adv in shotgun news(topless lady with rebal flag toga):evil:

Country Boy
May 10, 2004, 05:20 PM
I hear about these "kid bumped into my gun" stories, and keep waiting for someone to start theirs with, "So I had my J-frame in my Thunderwear when this kid ran up..."

Battlespace
May 10, 2004, 05:29 PM
I seem to remember reading about a guy in Kentucky (Louisville or Lexington) a few years aback who dropped his "piece" while waiting in line at a theater. BANG. I believe he either shot himself (deserving) or someone waiting in line. Does anyone from Kentucky remember this happening?

shep854
May 10, 2004, 05:30 PM
Regarding the Mex carry, I've read that this was a popular carry for Texas Rangers, also that some would tie a loop of cord to their belt, to keep the pistol from sliding down inside their pants. By the accounts, it was considered a very secure method of carry.

Of course, it was a Ranger who tied down the grip safety of his 1911 with a piece of red string. When asked if it was dangerous, he replied, "Of course it's dangerous! It's supposed to be!"

Josey
May 10, 2004, 05:43 PM
Mexican carry was a SAA method. You would load the single action and leav the loading gate flipped out. When stuck in the waistline, the loading gate rested on the belt and kept the pistol from slipping down. I would like to see a gunners kid look at another kid and say; WOW! Johnny, you ran into somebody with Spegals!!

oldschool
May 10, 2004, 07:03 PM
I just tried looking at www.kc3.org the story was in one of their past 3 news letters.

The gist as I remember it;
- pocket gun (not in any type of holster)
- neglient discharge
- round bounced off of the floor injured (unfortunately not the owner)
- I think misdemenor charges filed & compensation to injured party
I don't know if there has been anything after that.

Bainx
May 10, 2004, 09:36 PM
I can just see the caption on Fark now...
"Kid and Gun Collide. Kid doing fine, gun is down for the count"

www.fark.com (http://www.fark.com)

Logistar
May 11, 2004, 01:36 AM
I seem to remember reading about a guy in Kentucky (Louisville or Lexington) a few years aback who dropped his "piece" while waiting in line at a theater. BANG. I believe he either shot himself (deserving) or someone waiting in line. Does anyone from Kentucky remember this happening? I sure do. It happened at the Tinseltown theatre on the east side of Louisville. I don't think anyone got hurt. I never heard what finally happened to the guy. Maybe someone else knows...

jimpeel
May 11, 2004, 02:02 AM
At least that kid didn't know what he ran into. My 4 yr old son did the same thing to me in Wal-Mart. Only after the "thunk" came the loud announcement "Daaaad, I hit my head on your gun" That turned a few heads.That's when you double over, grab yourself, and groan. They all smile and turn away. :D

jimpeel
May 11, 2004, 02:04 AM
somewhere in nashville there's a boy running around trying to explain the circled PB on his forehead... it's the mark of the devil!!On top of that, the PB is BACKWARD! Oh, sweet Jesus!

Zach S
May 11, 2004, 09:54 AM
That's when you double over, grab yourself, and groan. They all smile and turn away. I can adlib pretty well, but I can honestly say I doubt I would have thought of that...

I will remember it though.

45crittergitter
May 11, 2004, 11:35 AM
Mexican carry.... well, I carry Mexicans over my shoulder.... :neener:

p35
May 12, 2004, 03:10 PM
A guy I knew killed himself last fall by stuffing a SIG P226 into the front of his pants without a holster- went off and shot out his femoral artery. LEO and highly experienced with guns. Pretty good reason not to do it IMHO.

jimpeel
May 12, 2004, 06:47 PM
That's why I would never -- as in NEVER -- place any hammerless firearm in my waistband. There is no way to know the condition.

Revolver, yes.

Pistol with exposed hammer, yes.

But only if I have no other way of carrying it.

How this guy managed to shoot himself to death with a P226 is beyond me. He had to know the hammer was cocked.

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