Oh, the frustration! Can't shoot - doctor's orders...


May 11, 2004, 09:39 PM
I injured my back at work on February 13 (yes, Friday the 13th, for those who are superstitious), and since then have been waiting for Workers Compensation to make up their minds to approve the necessary surgery. (The mills of God may grind slowly, but they're nothing compared to the W.C. bureaucracy... :fire: )

Anyway, I haven't been able to shoot since my injury. The neurosurgeon says that recoil will be transmitted to the spine, whatever I shoot, and he doesn't want the added stress on it until it's been fixed. So, I've got over 20,000 rounds of ammunition in my new ammo closet, and no way to shoot it! Talk about frustration... :(

Anyone else been in this position?

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May 11, 2004, 09:42 PM
isnt there some kind of a gel glove you could wear that would absorb the recoil?

you could always have a wife or friend hold the gun while you pull the trigger :).

4v50 Gary
May 11, 2004, 09:43 PM

May 11, 2004, 09:56 PM
How about a .22 cal. rifle and CB caps? No recoil at all.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery!


May 11, 2004, 09:58 PM
Preacherman, spend the time you want to be shooting finding the RIGHT guy to open your back up and fix it. Diligence pays.

Also try to think about pain free shooting, that is the end goal. It takes time for these things to work out but NOTHING compares to back pain all the time.

Me being hardheaded me would be shooting my K22 and Marlin M60 though, and STOPPING when my back got tired.

Harry Tuttle
May 11, 2004, 10:06 PM
find a good chiropracter before letting a guy trained to cut loose on your body

cutting is forever

May 11, 2004, 10:07 PM
Send your 7.62x39 to me Preacherman! I'll give it a good home and it will feel right at gome in my Saiga! Hope you heal up quick!:)

May 11, 2004, 10:11 PM
Thanks for the suggestions about airguns, BB's, etc., but the doctor has explained to me that it's not just recoil that's the problem - taking up a shooting stance, whether with handgun or long gun, pulls the back muscles, etc. into new and "unusual" positions, and he wants to avoid that sort of stress. I guess I could always put Crimson Trace grips on a BB revolver and shoot from the lap! :D

May 11, 2004, 10:22 PM
Peter ... not good to have to deal with ... can barely imagine (shudder!).

I would tho, in all seriousness have thought (delving into my medical past) that sitting at a bench for instance .. and pooping off with some .22's .. in handgun particularly .. could or should be manageable with no trauma.

Hang in there tho .... hope this gets fixed real soon.

May 11, 2004, 10:34 PM
..This is just too weird. I injured my back on (Friday Feb. 13,1987). I tore the ribs from T-3,4,&5.. Needless to say, it was all I could do just reaching and holding "the thingy" to go pee. Had surgery(cut off half in. from the three rib bones where they intersected backbone) . After many months of agony I got over it and am throwing lead down range like there's no tomorrow.
.Be patient, listen to your body and you will be fine. Good luck...:)

May 11, 2004, 10:37 PM
Send some of that ammo this way, I'd be happy to make sure it gets used...:D


Sorry to hear about the crappy timing, I'm a constant unvoluntary follower of Murphy's Law also. Don;t worry, the ammo will be waiting as soon as your back is better. Best of luck on a speedy recovery.

4v50 Gary
May 11, 2004, 10:40 PM
Aha! It's the attitude (19th century English for posture) you can't assume.

Well, have I got the gun for you. The old Maxim. Twin spade handles. One smart rap on either left or right side to adjust for windage. Either that or the tripod mounted M-2 machine gun. Ask your doctors about either of these two fine weapons.:)

May 11, 2004, 10:50 PM
Just try to relax and heal up. The range will be waiting when you're ready. In the meantime you can work out your frustrations moderating trolls. Pretend they're targets. ;)

Bob F.
May 11, 2004, 11:05 PM
Preacherman: Jeez! Wife had a neck problem. Local neuro said we can fix that. I asked another dr. whom I knew well and had great faith in(i.e.: in whom I had great faith). "He's a meticulous SURGEON." 2nd opinion in Roanoke, VA: Neuro said; " I don't know how much pain you're in or how much pain you can stand, but if it were my neck, they wouldn't be cutting on it! Let's try this." It worked, for a while. Ex just had neck sx @UVA, Charlottesville. Seems to have been successful.

No, I haven't been twisting necks!

I'm an RN (whoopee!) Feel free to PM me. Knowing people in the field locally can be a BIG benefit. All Dr's are NOT created equally!

Prayers for ya'!
Stay safe.

May 12, 2004, 12:22 AM
Not to jinx you or anything, :p , but well over a year ago my doc agreed to "clean out" my ankle as soon as it was approved by the WC people. I still have never heard! :uhoh:

I have knee surgery this Friday that was set up in one week through my private insurance. Funny how that works.

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
May 12, 2004, 12:28 AM
Sorry to hear that, Preacher; I can commiserrate. I broke C7 (in my neck) 2 1/2 years ago and it has started causing me problems over the last couple of months. Had to forego the DFW local shoot as a precaution.

Get at least a couple of independent opinions from trusted neurosurgeons before deciding on a surgical option. Perhaps steroids and rest will overcome the need for the knife.


May 12, 2004, 01:04 AM
Did they do an MRI on the spine, do you have any neurological signs and symptoms that a nerve or disc has been compromised?


May 12, 2004, 01:12 AM
Get another Doctor.
Three doctors told George Burns to quit smoking cigars - he outlived those three doctors and kept smoking cigars. :cool:

Air Soft and rubber band guns ain't gonna cut it. Shoot a .22, shorts, CB caps something...gotta have noise, "some" felt recoil, gotta smell the "burn".

This comes from a guy that took a blind person shooting, they say blind folks can't shoot guns...wanna bet?

I never seem to do the rule thingys very well.

May 12, 2004, 09:57 AM
Get better soon! You know if you don't keep your guns and ammo occupied, it'll start killing babies and minorities. The Brady Center told me so! :neener: ;)

El Tejon
May 12, 2004, 10:05 AM
I have, I called it "living in Chicago".:D Opportunity to dry practice?:confused:

Tried yoga? It helped Hank Hill in that documentary on Fox. Maybe Law Hon Gung exercises?


May 12, 2004, 10:14 AM
Best wishes for a speedy & full recovery, P'man.


May 12, 2004, 10:20 AM

Knowing full well how the WC game is played, those who need the help, seem to wait forever, while those who don't, ( frauds), get it easily. No consolation, but keep the faith, ( I know you will! ).

Once your back heals, you will be back in the game. Until then, I have this place you can store your ammo,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:D

May 12, 2004, 10:28 AM
Yet another misery story. Playing basketball on 5/2 and did a back flip over a fellow player and landed on my neck/right shoulder. Still walking around the house with the Frankenstein 2-step. Naturally, on Monday, 5/3, my latest C&R acquisition arrived and we haven't been to the range yet.

May 12, 2004, 01:47 PM
and pooping off with some .22's

Sorry P95Carry, I couldn't resist :D :D :D

Hope your back gets fixed soon Preacherman :).


May 12, 2004, 04:06 PM
have been waiting for Workers Compensation to make up their minds to approve the necessary surgery. Uhhh . . . be REAL careful about ANYTHING you do. The WC weenies might be keeping an eye on you, and if you're not following doctor's orders, or if they see you doing ANYTHING other than writhing in pain, they may decide you're not so bad off after all. And deny - rather than delay - treatment.

May 12, 2004, 04:13 PM
"Anyone else been in this position?"

I was out of commission from mid-September until December or so. I had back surgery 11/7 for a crushed sciatic nerve. It wasn't a disc problem or anything typical, just a crushed nerve that took the surgeon almost 3 hours to peel off my spine and tease back into shape.

I hurt after the surgery even on the morphine drip, but not as badly as I did before if that tells you anything.

Anyway, since I couldn't shoot (or walk, or drive, or much of anything for 3 months) I surfed the 'net and bought stuff. Nothing like big bottles of oxycodone, a computer and a Visa card. He put me on steroids for two 6-day periods and they helped a little, but whacked me out. That reminds me, I have 2 sets of Spegel grips for a 1911 that I need to put on guns and couple of scopes I need to open and mount. There're probably some other things stashed away that I don't remember buying. Oh well, I'm better now.

And I won a fancy EBR rifle sling in a Shot Show raffle I don't remember entering. I don't even own an EBR.

On second thought, hide the credit cards.


May 13, 2004, 12:20 AM
No wonder your back hurts! I can see it now. "...spam can of 7.62X39, check. Crate of 7.62X54R...hmmmm, this is really heavy-OK, count of 3. 1....2....thr<RIIIIIP>"


Preacherman, the ammo ain't going anywhere. Rest your back. I had a protruding disc injury a year ago, and I still have problems with it. If you have any reading you've wanted to catch up on, you're in luck.

May 13, 2004, 08:44 AM
So sorry to hear about your injury.Did you want to hear about back/neck injuries, or not being able to shoot?
I agree with the poster who suggested Chiropractic care prior to surgery. I've had a C4-C6 fusion and then 4 years later a C3 - C6 laminectomy. Then 4 years later, STILL suffering from neck pain I went to Chiro regularly for 6 months and got more relief than from the surgeries.
I had surgery @ the end of Feb for "triggerthumb". My request for one of my birthday presents next month is a shooter's glove with extra padding for the base of my thumb.
At least your ammo won't go "bad" while you are recovering.
Best Wishes for a speedy recovery,

May 14, 2004, 09:00 AM
Tripod mounted belt fed Browning machine gun. Either a .30cal M1919A4 or a .50cal M2. Just fit either with the proper electrical solinoid trigger group. :neener:

Seriously, reach out and thump someone.

Honest seriously, Take care of yourself and heal. Your ammo will stay safe in your locker. It's high and dry and will be waiting for you when your are ready and able.

May 14, 2004, 11:03 AM
Sorry to hear of your injury and dilemma PM. yuo have many years ahead of you (God willing), so take it easy and get well.

May 14, 2004, 12:45 PM
Preacherman, I feel your pain as I type this one-handed sitting here with a broken collarbone. My Orthopedic Doc told me not to shoot. Dang it! I should be better by 6/15 though. Good luck and heal quick.

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