[Glock Glockler]

I don't know about the rest of you but I have a huge thing for the Enfield Mk.4 number 2 series, but I like the 308 and am not going to add yet another caliber to my bloated inventory.

I hear that an Aussie company is going to be soon importing a faithful reproduction in 308 but that it's expensive and heavy.

I'd love to see an American company bring out a solid version at a reasonable price. I called Savage but the woman I spoke with there didn't even know what an Enfield was. Maybe if a bunch of asked en masse they might consider it.

Who else would like a solid Mk2 no.2 Enflield in 308?

[P95Carry]

GG .... Andrew Wyatt has a thread running ... for just this. Haven't got the URL straight to hand but it's there .. see if you can find or I'll post back if I find it.

He hopes that 20 of us can make a bulk/group buy.

[P95Carry]

Here it is ..... The other thread (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65365)

[Andrew Wyatt]

enfields are expensive to make, and are a niche market, and last i checked, patent infrigement is both immoral and wrong.

[444]

Andrew, what do you think of this rifle in light of the fact that you are a kalifornia resident ?
I know you like them anyway, but I wonder about the kalifornia angle.

[Andrew Wyatt]

They're a nice companion piece to an m-1a, of course.

they're more of a GP/battle rifle than the other .308 boltguns, and are capable of holding significantly more rounds with preban magazines than any other boltgun.

They don't gain any mystical superpowers in california, though. they take magazines from guns that are commonly available here, and the .308 versions don't really fill a California specific niche.


the AK magazine and m-16 magazine versions do, however, since they use AK and m-16 magazines, and give you something to do with the magazines which you can't get rid of for guns you probably don't have anymore.

[Lone Star]

Considering that the Lee-Metford was adopted in 1888, I don't see patent infringement as a serious issue... the Enfield rifling was added in 1895!

Lone Star

[Andrew Wyatt]

the number4mk4 rifle has patents on it, as it has design changes from the original enfield. (headspacing, bolt head design, magazine latching)

also, it's pretty stupid to complain about MSRP when there's a group buy going on that'll get you below dealer price on them.

[jame]

They do look nice, but the checkbooks a little thin, with three teenagers. I might continue to look for an Ishy that could use a little TLC, without too much concern for collectors value, if I can find one. Maybe I'll get to own one of those Aussies someday......

BTW, a patent is protected for only 17 years, depending upon licensing and common use. The new Enfield, though expensive to produce, is a free-for-all, unless some sort of new original idea was incorporated into it, AND the corresponding patent was applied for, and granted.

[swingset]

My beef with them is that the market isn't ready for them. In 10 years, when original DCRA conversions are $1000+, fine they are a bargain but now you can get a minty .308 Canadian conversion out of Canada for about the same money and comparing a repro to the appreciating, historical real deal to me isn't even worth considering. I'll go for the genuine article.

I don't knock the high price, because I know how hard it is to make them and that's not bad for what they are, it's just that for the $$ I can have a very mint No4mk2 Irish Contract gun and enough scratch left over to reload for it for a long time.

[4v50 Gary]

Gator, if what you say is true, then it's back to the original price of $225 or $250 (I forgot which) - unless of course they ask for $300.

[Jaeger]

I'll be saving my pennies and selling an item or two. It is totally irrational but I NEED one!
Actually, I need two. One full size standard configuration and one to turn into another scout rifle!

While running training and qualification courses for my dept., I slipped into a patrol rifle qualification line (designed for AR15s) with my Enfield Scout in 303. Not only was I able to keep up with the ARs but I was able to shoot a perfect score. You have to be quick with the stripper clips, but the rifle sure is up to the task. There's no way I could have done it with a commercial scout rifle.

A rifleman with a good #4 is a fearsome thing!