What would you do with your guns/ammo if you had to temporarily evacuate?


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DMK
May 13, 2004, 10:55 AM
Say you had to temporarily evacuate your house due to some kind of potential for disaster (flood, fire, chem, bio, whatever). Assume you have some warning so it's not mayhem, but you won't be back for perhaps a week or two. What do you do with your guns and ammo?

My biggest concern would be looters. I'd hate to arm a bunch of losers that would hang around and scavenge what's left behind.

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Desert Dog
May 13, 2004, 11:03 AM
Easy, leave them in the gun safe where they are now...

No Trespassing
May 13, 2004, 11:36 AM
We had to evacuate last summer due to fires. There's no way I could fight brush fires with my well Although I keep a 100 foot clearance the winds can really move the flames..

We keep everything important in firelined safes and that includes guns. If we had to leave RIGHT NOW, I would hope the safes are as good as they say. However, if they don't HAVE to burn, I'd rather take them. We have two dodge Rams so we can take darn near everything dear to us.

After the dog, cats, horses were loaded out we went back for the pictures and the safes.

The 3 document safes can be unbolted from the floor and in the truck in 15 min's.

It took another 15 minutes to unload the gun safe, use the fridge dolly to get it outside, 4 of us to slide it into the back of the Ram and toss the guns/ammo in the back seat.

A lot of work but worth it if you have the time IMO.

JamisJockey
May 13, 2004, 11:47 AM
Handguns would go with. If I have time, I'll grab my shotgun, .22, and some ammo for both.
That reminds me, I need to rotate my emergency water this month.

WT
May 13, 2004, 12:19 PM
I'd pick up a 1911 and the wife would pick up a 9mm. We'd leave the rest in the vault.

Mr. Mysterious
May 13, 2004, 12:27 PM
Whats the firerating on your average safe?

Cameron Lamont
May 13, 2004, 12:33 PM
What the hell?

I would take them with me!

You wouldn't leave your kids behind...

SJG26
May 13, 2004, 12:46 PM
"That reminds me, I need to rotate my emergency water this month"

I did the 2-55 gallon drums of water routine last year finally - what is the recommended refresh timing?? (fileed w/ regular tap water)

Sawdust
May 13, 2004, 12:52 PM
I did the 2-55 gallon drums of water routine last year finally - what is the recommended refresh timing?? (fileed w/ regular tap water)

I change my stash quarterly; I could probably let it go longer, but it's just easy to remember that way.

When earnings reports for publicly-traded companies start coming out...I change my water.

Makes sense to me...:D

HTH,

Sawdust

shooten
May 13, 2004, 01:30 PM
We had to evacuate because of the fires last year too. I brought them with me. It's easier to do that than replace them here in Kali.

Scott

JamisJockey
May 13, 2004, 02:34 PM
ATC: What schedule do you rotate??
I buy water bottles (2.5 gallon, and 1-2 cases of 16oz bottles) with an expiration date and rotate it out when its expired. I usually only keep about 10-15 gallons, plus the smaller bottles. Just enough to get me through 72 hours. If I need more, I've got 10 propane canisters and a stove to boil water.

cheygriz
May 13, 2004, 04:27 PM
I grab the Glock 17 and the AR-15, two magazines for each, and leave the rest in the safe. My safe is rated for 1200 degrees for 90 minutes.

I throw the ammo, powder and primers in the camper-trailer, hitch up and take off. (No point in leaving flammable material behind.)

BluesBear
May 14, 2004, 09:43 AM
What would you do with your guns/ammo if you had to temporarily evacuate?

Well, first I'd rent a rather large truck...

JamisJockey
May 14, 2004, 11:47 AM
Blues:
You've got the longest signature I've ever seen. Are you compensating for your lack of a good "man bag"?
:neener:

RED-DOG 40
May 14, 2004, 01:22 PM
.."Blues:
You've got the longest signature I've ever seen. Are you compensating for your lack of a good "man bag"?....:uhoh:

.....OUCH !!.....:D

JamisJockey
May 14, 2004, 01:28 PM
.....OUCH !!.....

Sorry....that comes out of this thread. (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=1000051#post1000051)
Just having some fun at BluesBear's expense.
:evil:

rick_reno
May 14, 2004, 01:38 PM
Nothing - I don't have any guns or ammo.

TallPine
May 14, 2004, 01:40 PM
Take them with - as we just did this week already.

Don't have a fire safe, but don't have that many guns either.

I don't worry too much about the ammo, except to take some of everything with us so we won't have guns with no ammo. If the fire takes the structures, then by that time the ammo left behind isn't going to make anything that much worse - total destruction is total destruction any way you look at it. And the typical FD structure protection strategy is to foam the house and get out while the fire burns over, then go back in and cool things back down. A lot of houses survive the burn over only to succumb to hot embers in the wrong places.

And we (the wife and kids, actually - I will already be paged out by then) try to take the camper trailer that already has some food and extra clothing in it. We don't leave the guns in the camper though, because it is more likely to burn up than the house if it gets left behind.

one45auto
May 14, 2004, 02:00 PM
I suppose it would depend upon how much warning I had. If given an hour I could take just about everything I own apart from the furniture, which wouldn't matter anyway because it's all insured. On the other hand, if I had say ten minutes or less I'd keep it simple; firearms, ammunition, B.O.B., and a few personal effects. As shooten said it's eaiser than replacing them, and in some cases I wouldn't be able to.


I would have included family photos, but I learned a lesson from watching coverage of the wildfires in California years back. These days almost all of the photographs on display in my house are copies, with the originals safely stored in a safe deposit box at the bank along with my birth certificate, personal Bible, my Great-Uncle's letter (handwritten in the trenches of WW1), and some other important documents. Call me cautious, but I even have a copy of them on CD as an extra precaution.

thumbtack
May 14, 2004, 05:32 PM
Take what I can and leave the rest in the safe, that is what I bought it for.

rayra
May 14, 2004, 05:46 PM
Simple. Take what you can and disable the rest. Remove the firing pins / bolts / trigger groups from those you leave behind, whether they are in a safe or not.

Lord Bodak
May 14, 2004, 05:59 PM
I don't have much... the .22 pistol, .22 rifle, and the .40 H&K... so I'd just bag up all the guns and ammo and take it all.

Makes me wish the rifle case I ordered from Uncle Mike's wasn't backordered!:cuss:

Dionysusigma
May 14, 2004, 07:57 PM
Take my shotgun, .22, and AK with. The Winchester is left behind with a box of cheap 12ga... hopefully a looter or two will kill themselves trying to figure it out. :rolleyes: :D

Kevlarman
May 14, 2004, 09:04 PM
Just this past Monday I was caught totally unprepared for a mandatory evacauation.

Apparently some CalTrans workers hit a 12" natural gas main whilst demolishing a freeway overpass. Concerned about a possiblity of explosion, they, along with the local PD and fire department evacuated a whole 2 mile radius. Even a mile away I could hear and smell the high pressure gas spewing out (sounded like a jet plane). :eek:

I was about to take a nap at about 6PM when a firefighter banged on my door and told us to get the heck out. I complied, bringing only my wallet, keys, cellphone, and surprisingly, digital camera. I was thinking we'd only be out a couple minutes or an hour at most. I was also dressed in only a tanktop and shorts.

Boy was I wrong! We weren't let back into the neighborhood until 8 hours later! I didn't get back until 2:30AM! In retrospect, I should probably have had an emergency bag ready along with a pistol and ammo. I don't have a safe, and I can't carry three longarms with me.

Thankfully, there were police and firemen posted right outside my door, so I wasn't really concerned about looters.

I'm in the process of making up a BOB now!

Mannlicher
May 14, 2004, 09:23 PM
I have planned for years for just this. Living in Miami, I know its just a matter of time before Andrew's big brother comes calling.
I will seperate the guns, leaving none of them functional. A key part here, a vital sub assembly there................

SapperLeader
May 14, 2004, 09:42 PM
Im in the process of putting together a panic box of ammo and magazines. This would allow me to throw the guns into some bags, grab the panic box, be wearing my ccw and hit the road. I would then have my collection safe, and still have the tools to protect my family,

JamisJockey
May 14, 2004, 10:43 PM
I'm in the process of making up a BOB now!

Think 72 hours. That seems to be the standard BOB, and should be enough to get you through most forseable disasters.

Valkman
May 14, 2004, 11:25 PM
My safe is 1200 lbs, so it's staying. :) It's rated at 1638 degrees for 45 minutes, but regardless I'd just take what I could and leave the rest. Not much there that can't be replaced. There'd be alot of other things to worry about so I'd probably grab the AR, a couple of .45's and be gone.

4v50 Gary
May 14, 2004, 11:29 PM
Last time I had to evacuate I took my Sig P220 with 4 extra magazines and my scoped AR with 100 rounds. Now that I don't have ARs here in CA, I'd take the Rem 700 LTR and 100 rounds of Federal match.

BryanP
May 14, 2004, 11:36 PM
I'd take what I could. The rest would go in either a safe or the best place I could think to hide them.

I can think of one place in my house that looters probably wouldn't bother checking. Under loose blown insulation in an inconvenient part of the attic.

larry_minn
May 15, 2004, 03:57 AM
I always felt if I thought fire was danger I would stick a couple 5 gallon plastic buckets on safe full of water. Maybe drill a small hole in one of them. Set up garden sprinkler on roof and leave it run.
Most guns would stay unless I had plenty of time. Safe IIRC is rated for 40 min at 1300 or so?

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