Opinions on Browning BPS


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Shmackey
February 10, 2003, 12:44 AM
Anyone have experience with these? They seem to be priced just a little above 870s; is the quality there? I like Browning in general but I don't know where they fit in the pump shotgun market.

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Dave McCracken
February 10, 2003, 05:47 AM
Good shotguns, however...

Way more expensive than the Big Four, even the 37 that served as inspiration for the BPS.

It's a little heavy for a field gun, better for waterfowling.

We see few of these at the range, the bottom loading feature makes it harder to tell if it's unloaded.

All in all, the BPS does little the 870 will not and the price difference is darn near enough to get two 870s instead of one BPS.

six 4 sure
February 10, 2003, 08:19 AM
I love mine, bought it to goose hunt with, so sadly it doesn't get used much any more. Almost bought one in 20ga too, for bird hunting but, opted for a Beretta O/U instead.

Six

HSMITH
February 10, 2003, 09:14 AM
They are smooth in the action and pretty. They shoot great, and handle good. They are a royal PITA to strip and clean, and they are a touch heavy. I had one for a while, shot the snot out of it.

You won't ever wear one out. If you like it buy it.

Barney
February 10, 2003, 09:24 AM
I own one. IMO the good points are are:

1. Very easy to takedown and clean/reassemble.
2. I have patterned them with Steel Shot and the Patterns are excellent.
3. Top of receiver mounted safety. Coming from a long background of side by side doubles shooting this feature is nice.
4. Browning stands 100% behind their products. Warranty work if needed is superior.
5. Appealing looking pumps.
6. 3 or 3 and 1/2 chambers. NOTE: I patterned Two loads of Remington Express Steel with #1 shot. 2 and 3/4" and 3" lengths. The shorter shell gave the best pattern.
7. They have a good trigger.
8. They have a good Rib.
9. They seemed to be balanced nice and therefore swing nice.
IMO the bad points are:

1. The pull on the stock is way too long for me. If I shorten the stock to 13 and 7/8's which is what I prefer the comb would then be too short.
2. I do not like bottom feed. If you short stroke the gun when attempting to shuck a shell you can jam the bottom feeding Browning BPS. I have done this and they are a pain to get straighten out. Of course the operator is not supposed to do that.
3. I like heavy shotguns, especially waterfowl guns. I hunt ducks and geese.

I use mine for Steel Shooting. It is a Pigeon Grade made in 1991 before they changed to the present BPS. I was told the present BPS model was cheapen somewhat to compete with the Remington in Price. This is heresay and I don't put much to it.
Not that it matters but I am a Model 12 fan. You can get some good buys on them now. A few years ago they were pricey but recently they have come down. If you are looking for a 3" chambered gun try to find a Model 12 Heavy Duck. That is what I use and they will reach out and touch things...but they are real Heavy!! Right at Nine lbs loaded.

Best to you: Barney

45Badger
February 10, 2003, 01:30 PM
I love both of mine! 12 and 20 both bought MIB/used for $325 each. They are early-mid 90's production with very nicely figured, high gloss dark walnut furniture, and engraved receivers.

Newer production guns just aren't as pretty, basically cheaper wood, and no engraving.

The twelve is heavy, but I bought it for a duck gun, so I'm not humping a ton of weight around, just sitting in a boat/blind. The 20 is a very nice pointer, slightly heavier than my 870, but much smoother, not as "whippy".

Very nice, solid guns. I'd buy a clean used one before going to new.

Kimber Kid
February 10, 2003, 03:51 PM
I've owned two of them. Sold the first one to get a 3 1/2" mag Stalker. There was a recall on some models with Browning paying for everthing. I had a hull split it's brass head and the extractor held so tight I had to remove the barrel to dislodge the spent shell. The backbored barrel holds a tight pattern and the Stalker is tough as nails. Just the ticket for a duck boat or goose pit. Compare the price to a WingMaster. The Nova is another in the running. Of the three it's hard to pick a loser.

I do love my tube guns. :D

Marshall
February 11, 2003, 01:27 AM
Great Guns! The quality is good and look is very nice. They shoot really smooth. At $480.00ish MSRP, I feel it's one of the better buy's for what you get, you won't pay that of course.

Browning BPS's (http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/category.asp?value=011B)

Lone Star
February 11, 2003, 10:15 AM
I had one for test not too long after they were introduced. It worked okay, but I asked the (now late) Don Zutz what he thought, inasmuch as Don was my shotgun guru. He said they were "chuggers" and that was true. The new one may run slicker. But I still don't like the looks as well as I do the M870 or the Ithaca M37, and Browning can be pretty snotty about customer service.

Lone Star

M. Jager
February 11, 2003, 03:32 PM
Had one for awhile. I liked it but I grew up on ithacas so bottom ejection didn't bother me. I shot alot of skeet and sporting clays with mine and didn't have a problem. Personally I didn't find it hard to disassemble but your results may vary. I didn't shoot it as well as my other guns so I sold it to a friend. I think the BPS is an excellent waterfowl/target gun while the Ithaca makes a better uplander. Personally I feel they are worth the price if you like them and shoot them well.
Matt

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