[dirtbos]

Some have said that California is done for. Socialism will take it down. Voter apathy will cause it to happen. “You will never recall Gray Davis”.

Take a look at the progress in the first 96 hours of volunteer registration.

Click here for "California Uproar" (http://www.recallgraydavis.com/News.asp - News10)

This guy is going down like a Chucker with an a%% full of #8 shot.

Mike

[Destructo6]

Dead link.

[AZTOY]

this is the right link

http://www.recallgraydavis.com/NewsFolder/PR20030209-1.asp
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
February 10, 2003

CONTACT: Info@RecallGrayDavis.Com

California Uproar!
Over 10,000 Sign up at RecallGrayDavis.com Website in First 96 Hours!

(SACRAMENTO) – Former Assemblyman Howard Kaloogian, Statewide Chair of the Recall Gray Davis Committee, announced today that, “In the first 96 hours since the Recall Gray Davis effort was launched, over 10,000 Californians have signed up to join the recall campaign at the official recall website, www.RecallGrayDavis.com.”

Supporters of the recall drive herald from every part of the state. They have registered to circulate petitions and volunteer their time and energy to ensure the recall qualifies for a spot on a special election ballot.

The campaign also announced today that it has published a “Question & Answers” forum to address questions on the recall process, the timeline of the recall effort, how a recall election would occur and who would succeed Gray Davis when the recall succeeds. A link to the “Questions & Answers” forum can be found at the www.RecallGrayDavis.com website.

“Californians are clearly fed up with the corrupt and incompetent policies of Gray Davis. The people feel betrayed by the lies and deception Davis used to hide the seriousness of the state’s budget crisis, only to reveal the truth after he was re-elected. But Californians are taking action with this recall effort to save their schools, their public safety services, and their take home pay!” declared Kaloogian.

Supporters of the recall have signed up after learning of the RecallGrayDavis.com website from emails, talk radio shows and word of mouth. The recall campaign is demonstrating how effective the Internet has become in American politics today.

“The Recall Gray Davis campaign is committed to organizing the tens of thousands of Californians we will need to carry out this recall effort in record time and with ample signatures to spare. We are in discussions with leaders from all political parties to ensure that this is a broad-based effort that unites the people of this state out of their shared disdain for Governor Davis’ deceptive methods and destructive policies,” Kaloogian declared.

[44Brent]

http://www.recallgraydavis.com/

[dirtbos]

It will help us understand the things that we will have to overcome in this fight!! :D

Momentum is the key. This thing has legs.

Mike

Ps. Thanks for the link correction. Guess I need to go back to the help section.

[Henry Bowman]

Didn't you guys (or someone) just re-elect this guy? How is he worse now than he was 3 months ago? Are all the illegals and felons who voted for him elegible to sign the petition for recall?

[Airwolf]

The thing that crossed the line is that he lied about the deficit, quoting it as being BILLIONS smaller that it actually was, this being just before the election. Right after he was sworn it, it was "Oh, sorry, we're actually another 10 BILLION in the red".

The other thing is he BS'ed about was his position on taxes. Just like he did with the gun laws, where he said he'd wait and see if what was on the books would do any good. And then started signing everything that came across his desk. He claimed that he wasn't too thrilled with the idea of tax increases. After the truth about the deficit came out he started saying that tax increases were needed.

Coincidence? I think not.

[dirtbos]

He has really shown his true colors in regards to the deficit, taxes, etc. My Aunt is a Democrat. Her position was “you are better to stick with a known entity, than vote for an unknown”. I just could not persuade her. Primarily because Simon kept stepping on his tongue. Well, now she knows better, since the election. Now the liberals and moderates really “know what they have”.

Also, a recall election gives other candidates the opportunity to run. I would hope that a decent replacement could be found for old “Grayout”. An attempt at recall is certainly better than doing nothing. The socialists in the City of LA and the San Francisco Bay area elected him. If enough people that live in the Real State of California get energized, we just might pull it off.

Simon failed because he was incompetent, and for no other reason.

Mike

[Gary H]

I signed-up for a petition. My neighborhood is at least 85% Democratic, .. I love messing with my neighbors here in liberal Marin County.

[dirtbos]

Gary H,

Even if we do not succeed (which we will), I will have the satisfaction of having stuck a thumb in the eye of every liberal elitist in the state. :neener:

Tell your friends. Get as many people involved as possible. We will win. ;)

Mike

[EJ]

I don't have to deal with this -- fortunately--I don't live in Cali--

And I support the idea behind this and the goal--

But--
Are we really surprised that a politician lied and continues to lie?
:banghead:

[dirtbos]

But I am of the Conservative persuasion. I think a lot of moderates and liberals are surprised, now that they are seeing what he is really about. He thinks he is home free. He has another think coming. A rude awakening is in his future. I am going to do what I can too awaken him, along with many other California residents. Soon. About recall time. :evil:

Mike

[EJ]

Sure wish you guys luck--
It would be a heck of an example -- :)

[twoblink]

To list the horrors that davis has brought upon the state; would be a book longer then War and Peace..

Life still left in the PRK, albit only a little bit..

[dirtbos]

The recall efforts legs are getting stronger. Good reading.

http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/story/6098325p-7054229c.html

Mike

[Russ]

dirtbos,

Are you a new voter? I ask because I wonder where you were when we tried to get enough signatures to get an equivalent to the Fedeal Second Amendment onto the California Constitution a few years back. We got in the neighborhood of 650,000 but needed 750,000. Most gun-owners couldn't be bothered. The petition effort was run by Geoff Metcalf and there was a website called vetothegovernor.org.

Had that amendment made it onto the ballot and been passed, Davis and the rest of the commies in the Legislature wouldn't have been able to shove alot of their anti gun BS down our throats. There is a new effort under way. Why don't you sign up for that. Check the website below. It will give you a history of what has been happening at the grass roots level for awile. Change the CA Constitution, and it won't matter who the Governor is as far as RKBA goes.

http://www.caproprkba.org/

You will hear me laugh from Kentucky if Davis is recalled. California is my native state and I lived there a long time. If you get him re-called, I hope you get someone better for the 2A than him. If not, what's point. If Feinstein were Governor, it would be worse and they seem to love her there. She wins by large margins typically.

Did you vote for Simon? He ran a bad campaign but would have been far superior to Davis. Riordan would have been Davis Lite, just as Lundgren the RINO four years earlier. Both of them like gun control too. Good luck. Hope they can get some money for signature collectors. To get the 880,000 plus needed, they will
have to gather over a million sigs. A fair number always get thrown out for one reason or another. Lose the libs in SF and LA and CA is a great place politically at least until the Latino population overwhelms the place and continues to vote DemocRAT. That is something that needs to change also. CA Latino's need to find a reason to vote Republican. I don't know how you do that. Do that and you have the key.

[dirtbos]

Hello Russ,

Thought you were ignoring us. :)

I gathered about 20 signatures myself (got a late start because I didn’t find out about it until the last few days). It will be very important to get the word out early this time. I have a sticker in the rear window of my vehicle. The news media will not help us (as I am sure you are aware).

I voted for Simon even though he was a loser. Given the way a recall election works, we have a great opportunity to put in a good candidate. The person who gets the largest percentage of votes wins, even if it is less than 50%. We need one good conservative to run along with a bunch of liberal scumbag democrats. This will spread their vote.

Am I a new voter? Hell, I voted for Nixon. :rolleyes: I’m still not sure about that one. Talk about a Democrat railroad job.

Mike

[Russ]

dirtbos, (Mike)

No, not ignoring you. it's just hard for me not to be pessimistic given the sorry things that have happened in CA since that slime ball Davis got elected. Makes one long for Jerry Brown. Sure wish we had a barf icon. I would have used it back there after Brown! I don't recall him doing much against gun ownership even though he was a flaming liberal. Just different times.

I fought hard against all of the anti gun measures put up since Davis got in and it wore me out. Seems like us evil gun-owners couldn't buy a break. AB this, SB that, it never ended. You should see if Jack Scott could be thrown in on the recall too.

I had really hoped the petition to get something like the Fed 2nd on the ballot had worked with vetothegovernor.org. It was disappointing when it failed. Really didn't fail by all that much but it should have flown through with ease given the number of gun-owners there. I think it was worded blandly enough that it would have passed if it made it to the ballot. Oh well, I guess the next pitch is for 2004.

I can't help on that one or recalling that rotten Davis. I moved out in October of 2002. It was for family reasons. I was third generation Californian. My brothers all moved away and parents, aunts and uncles all died. My wife and kids wanted to come to KY where she is from. Left to me alone, I would never have mustered the momentum to move. The thught of cleaning the Garage out still haunts me. However, here I can get almost any gun I can afford with no waiting period and much less hassle.

Actually, probably the real reason I asked if you were a new voter is because of the enthusiasm you seem to have. That's always a great thing and gives me encouragement that this might actually work. First chance I got to vote was for Ford. He actually took California. Things sure have changed.

I was back here in KY during the Bill Simon fiasco. I couldn't belive how badly Simon kept screwing up his campaign. To lose by 6 points does show Davis was weak though.

I really do hope you get that rat Davis recalled and get a CA second amendment and then start repealing all those stupid gun laws. I'll try to curb my pessimism!

Russ

[Gary H]

Regardless of outcome..it is fun to irritate the ruling socialist party.

[Drizzt]

Davis recall is gaining traction

Democrats and their traditional allies are taking the effort seriously.

By Margaret Talev -- Bee Capitol Bureau
Published 2:15 a.m. PST Tuesday, February 11, 2003

Anti-tax activists and conservative Republicans put out the word last week: They want to ask voters to recall Democratic Gov. Gray Davis.

Rather than dismissing the recall talk as a partisan publicity stunt, however, Democrats and their traditional constituencies are taking the effort seriously. Some are even thinking about joining it.

The California Teachers Association, which represents 330,000 teachers, will discuss the matter when its board meets today, said President Wayne Johnson.

"How realistic is it and how do we position ourselves in this thing?" Johnson asked. "We'd have to poll our members. Gray Davis is not popular with the CTA, or teachers."

Other efforts to recall California governors quickly fizzled. What makes this different is Davis' current unpopularity with voters, and mounting belief that some wealthy Davis critics are interested in financing the effort.

Those mentioned most prominently are Kathleen Connell, a Democrat and former state controller, and Richard Riordan, the former Los Angeles mayor and failed gubernatorial hopeful who ran as a Republican moderate and is seen as a bipartisan force. Neither could be reached for comment Monday.

"You're talking about people who could raise money," Johnson said. "The probability is greater than anything I've seen in the last 20 years."

"The idea of a recall has captured the imagination of a lot of people because Gray Davis is so unpopular," said Riordan's former political consultant, Kevin Spillane.

Spillane declined to answer questions about Riordan's involvement in the recall effort, saying, "Only Riordan can speak for himself."

"In order for a recall to succeed, it has to get beyond the usual suspects on the Republican side and truly become a bipartisan effort," Spillane said.

Republican Party Chairman Shawn Steel, meanwhile, is trying to build a bipartisan coalition to oust Davis. Last week, he set up a meeting between Ted Costa of People's Advocate, the Sacramento group that announced the first of several recall efforts, and Pat Caddell, a television commentator and former pollster to Jimmy Carter, who is advocating a recall in liberal Democratic circles.

"Many people are willing to abandon traditional divides to work together for the common purpose," Steel said.

Davis, a second-term Democrat, is wearing on just about every special-interest group right now as the state grapples with a 17-month budget shortfall estimated at as much as $35 billion.

His call to raise the sales tax and income taxes on the wealthy has angered Republicans and anti-tax groups.

His proposals to reduce spending on social programs has frustrated liberal Democrats. And his call to reduce salaries and benefits for state workers has diminished loyalties among thousands of civil servants.

"He's screwing every constituent group in the world," said one Democratic consultant. "He can't depend on the usual groups that have assisted him in the past to come to his defense. His (poll) numbers are horrific. When you have over a 70 percent negative preference, you have to think about a recall as a serious matter."

But even as discussion of a recall broadens, Democratic activists predict it will subside before it ever gets to the ballot.

To qualify for the ballot, the recall campaign needs roughly 900,000 valid voter signatures -- an effort that could cost roughly $2 million to organize and must be completed within about six months.

Democrats and Republicans hoping to replace Davis would have to simultaneously raise money and organize their campaigns.

Some Republican leaders question the wisdom of going through with a recall until they know who is interested in running. Even if they had a candidate with mainstream appeal, that candidate would be inheriting the state budget crisis if elected.

Meanwhile, Democratic Party Chairman Art Torres says he doesn't believe top Democrats would pursue election against a governor from their own party.

"I just can't in any scenario imagine any of those good Democrats abandoning the governor," he said.

And Johnson of the CTA said he'll advise teachers to think seriously before they get involved.

"Looking at this now, my position is I wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole," Johnson said.

"We don't like a lot of the things that he's done," he said of Davis. "But we have to sit down and think about the long run, how this is going to affect public education, and not necessarily our feelings about Gray Davis."



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http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/story/6098320p-7054233c.html

[cobb]

Good luck California, I wish you the best and hope this mess can get staightened out and you get rid of Davis before the whole state slides into the Pacific.

[Standing Wolf]

I hope you'll do the right thing, Californians.

[dirtbos]

We aren’t sure how it would turn out, given the rules in a recall election. Anybody could win.

The momentum is building. The more articles I read about the recall, the better I feel. This thing is going all the way. It has to work. I don’t like to swim in the ocean.

Russ, sometimes pessimism is a good thing. It shows the group where to focus. :)

Mike

[Drjones]

Just requested a petition.

I'm going to have everyone I know sign it (HINT, HINT SAC AREA THR'ERS! :D ) and I'll take it to school.

:D