I was crusing the GunsAmerica site and found this!!!
Bersa mod 383 Blue .380 Nib
Category: B Other Rifles/Pistols/Shotguns GA#: 976261413
Model: Bersa mod 383 Blue .380 Nib Seller #:
Price: $410.00 Seller: steve kramer
Return Policy: 3 Days
Shipping Terms: Free Shipping
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Description: Bersa mod 383 Blue .380 . New in box. Double action 7+1 capacity. SN#1613XX. Cashiers check, money order, and Paypal accepted. FFL to FFL only. Buyer pays $25 for rifles and shot guns, pistols $45 shipping, handling and insurance in the lower 48.
This guy must be nuts!! Either that, or his customers must be very STUPID!!! :what:
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May 24, 2004, 04:34 AM
These types of ads asking for rediculous prices dont surprise me anymore.
After all, walk thru a gunshow and you walk out wanting to b*tchslap some of the vendors for the outrageous prices they're asking
May 24, 2004, 07:20 AM
That would be ridiculously high even here in the Philippines*
The piece's SN is a bit low, so it may be without the integral trigger lock (ILS)
*Over here, a Thunder 380 in matte black (not "blue")
with a pair of 9-round magazines
would cost about US$258.oo after taxes,
plus another US$115.oo in license fees
with a waiting period of 45-450 days, depending on your stinking luck.
:barf: :barf: :barf:
PS: I got my Thunder 380 in 47 days.
May 24, 2004, 08:09 AM
Every gun I have ever seen advertised by Steve Kramer has been ridiculously high. I have never bought a gun over the internet but I check out the sites once in a while and this guys outrageous prices really caught my attention. It makes me wonder, are there really THAT many stupid people or does he just like to go fishing?
May 24, 2004, 10:43 AM
I see some guy on one of the auction sites asking $75 for shipping on any handgun. ***????
May 24, 2004, 10:59 AM
Yeah, overnight shipping of a handgun through fed-ex is about $20 or so. No where near $75! I guess though if you are a fool willing to pay that kind of money though, well then you deserve to be ripped off since you seem to have way more dollars than sense.
May 24, 2004, 11:36 AM
Try getting this retard to ship to Alaska. He might charge $80 or so. We have a store in town called "Mountain View Sports." Walked in ONCE and looked around. They were charging FULL RETAIL for every single gun they had. They had them sitting on the shelves. Somebody HAD to have been buying them. I go back every once in a while to look. Never buy, don't care about the prices. I look, handle, fondle, work the action, hand the gun back and say "Thank you."
May 24, 2004, 12:51 PM
My Grand Pappy used to say; "If you ask every woman you meet to sleep with you, you'll get slapped alot ... but you'll also get laid enough to make it worth it."
May 24, 2004, 01:13 PM
Ask my wife to sleep with you and you might need that $455 Bersa!
May 24, 2004, 01:18 PM
Bah, I saw a pawn shop asking $400 for a Mosin Nagant 91/30 with no rifling left at the muzzle.
It could be worth $500 though -- but they'd let it go for $400.
May 24, 2004, 03:39 PM
The shop where I shoot sells stuff for full retail PLUS 10%!!!!!
I've bought a few pieces there, but not a lot!!
His prices are high, but this Kramer guy makes even Marty Mandall (http://www.mandallshooting.com) look like a slacker!!! :rolleyes:
May 24, 2004, 03:51 PM
I go back every once in a while to look. Never buy, don't care about the prices. I look, handle, fondle, work the action, hand the gun back and say "Thank you."
Hmmm and if you had a retail outlet youd be real happy about people who have no intention whatsoever of buying yet who want to"fondle" your guns...???:neener: :what:
By the way, for those of you who travel to Alaska, Mountainview Sports is a great shop...
May 24, 2004, 05:23 PM
My local shop is a real mixed bag. Sometimes they will have a nice gun at a bargain price, then again, they might have a real pos at an outrageous price. And they rarely come down on the outrageous pos!:confused:
May 24, 2004, 05:37 PM
stans, does that shop sell consignment guns?
I ran into just such a thing at a little shop I used to frequent ... he'd have excellent prices on most guns, but then there would be a few beat up POS guns that where way overpriced and he would say he couldn't negotiate on them ... I asked why and he said they where "consignment guns" and that their owners had set the prices.
May 24, 2004, 05:40 PM
Never buy, don't care about the prices. I look, handle, fondle, work the action, hand the gun back and say "Thank you."
So, you take up their salesperson's time, you handle their goods, and you reward them by refusing to give them any business? Good show.
May 24, 2004, 09:20 PM
Not that I won't buy a gun. Perhaps their guns have chunks of gold imbedded in them. Maybe they are of a better quality than the guns others sell New In Box. How would I know unless I looked at them! Perhaps it's my morbid curiosity as to why they have such high prices on them. At any rate, I feel no remorse from looking at the guns and not buying. When they start feeling bad about Gouging and profiteering, I'll stop feeling bad about 'just shopping' in their fine establishment. BTW, I haven't been in there in about 5 years, maybe things have changed.
May 24, 2004, 09:29 PM
By the way, for those of you who travel to Alaska, Mountainview Sports is a great shop...I prefer Wild West Guns myself. I've actually bought from them before and would return to do-so again.
Let's list stores that I haven't bought guns from in Anchorage... That would be one store long. Used to avoid RAL because of the jerk who ran the store, however he's moved on. Alaska Shooters Supply, Great Northern Guns, Northern Security, Badger Arms (of course) and Chimo as well. Virtually all were used guns as I can get new guns for myself.
If you had a car dealership, let's say Worthington Ford, that sold a truck for $25,000 and down the street another Ford Dealership sold the same exact truck for $20,000, where would you go? I'll tell you, I'd go to the more expensive dealership first and do the test drive, etc. Why? Well, maybe that $5,000 is worth it for the better service, etc.
I frankly can't imagine how much service you could get to make up for the price of that BERSA though!
May 24, 2004, 09:43 PM
Yet another great thing about capitalism, they will go out of business eventually. And if they don't, only fools suffer.
May 24, 2004, 10:07 PM
a few weeks ago i was at my local shop, checking out pump and lever action .22's. they've got good, knowledgable people working there who are helpful without being pushy. i'm starting to think it might not actually be a gun shop ;)
anyway, after looking at various rifles, we got to talking about the used long gun rack. seems there was a marlin 39a in there. good shape, but clearly used. not a darn thing special about it that either i or the staff could discern. the owner of the gun, in his infinite wisdom, had decided that the best price for it was...
May 25, 2004, 01:08 AM
Hey Badger Arms, do they have any NIB Colt Magnum Carry's? I'm willing to pay a finder's fee on a new model (assuming the asking price is at or near the suggested price).
May 25, 2004, 01:43 AM
I haven't seen one. They were made for less than a year and discontinued when Colt sold out. Last suggested reail was around $450. So, if you can find one for $450, good luck to you. Problem is, it's been discontinued for five years now. You coulda picked a better 'gotcha' example. Good try. You got me. You found a gun that is no longer selling for its 5-year-old suggested retail price. Good on ya.
Hey Badger Arms thanks for the link. I'm going to bid on the top one and if I get it for under five bills (that's my upper limit), fifty bucks is your's the pay period after the gun arrives. I've been offering a 10% finder's fee and if I can get the gun for that price, the finder's fee is your's.
PS: I'm assuming 'mint' means that it hasn't been fired.
May 25, 2004, 11:56 AM
$500 would be reasonable for one as good as Jack's I suspect his will go for much higher than that though.