What would make you give up your guns?


May 25, 2004, 11:22 PM
I seem to get this everytime i have a conversation with a person that doesn't quite understand why i am so passionate about guns. not necissarily an anti either.

My answer is always the same. NOTHING!

This answer usually tends to shock them. They then blurt out well what if your child shot and killed themself or was shot and killed by someone else.

My answer is still No because a firearm is a tool and like every other tool in the world when used imporperly can cause injury and death. They usually sit quietly. That's when it's time to ask my question. If your child was killed in a car accident would you sell your car?

That's what i thought.

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Standing Wolf
May 25, 2004, 11:27 PM
I'll give up my guns when I die. They're to be sold, and the proceeds evenly divided between the NRA and the GOA.

May 25, 2004, 11:27 PM
I've never had that conversation, but thats exactly what I would say.

Oleg Volk
May 25, 2004, 11:35 PM
I'd give up guns if I could upgrade to even better weapons...and under no other conditions. "You can have my gun after I pry a better one from an enemy casualty" ;)

May 25, 2004, 11:39 PM
My untimely demise...

... or a ridiculous financial offer that would allow me to restock AND have money in my pocket.

Mikey D...

May 25, 2004, 11:54 PM
What if somebody shoots your child while you stand there empty handed?:rolleyes:

I'm still trying to think of a reason that would cause me to willingly give up my guns.

May 26, 2004, 12:12 AM

Malone LaVeigh
May 26, 2004, 12:16 AM
I hope I would have the honor and presence of mind to give them up if I ever become non compos mentis through age or disease. I will arrange for them to go to my son and daughter at that time.

May 26, 2004, 12:20 AM
I say Nothing like everyone else here.

Then I think back to my flying days, when a 'not-so-close' friend of mine crashed flying 'my' plane and died. I haven't really flown much since, no real desire to.

I'm not saying a traumatic event involving a gun would have the same effect, but it's hard to predict that sort of thing, as I found out in flying.

As far as any other reasons, like a forced turn in by the gov, then I still say NO!

Edited to add: I guess what I'm saying is: even if I gave up my RKBA for some reason, I would still be a strong Supporter of the 2nd A for everyone else.

May 26, 2004, 12:43 AM
I don't remember where this comes from but:

"Someone, someday might kill you with your own gun... make sure they have to beat you to death with it."

That's my philosophy; if I give up my guns, they'll be emptied against a superior force first.:evil:

4v50 Gary
May 26, 2004, 12:52 AM
Give me a WW II fighter, preferably a Spitfire or a personalized M-2 Abrams. Maybe I'll settle for a Bradley with a chain gun. I'd definitely give up guns if I was given a loaded Iowa class battleship. I'd rent the ship out for junta rulers who'd want to take over some island. :p

M2 Carbine
May 26, 2004, 12:58 AM
Friends will get them when I die or maybe shortly before.:)

May 26, 2004, 01:07 AM
In a word, nothing - because as far as I am concerned if my firearms go, the rest of my freedoms will soon follow and I have absolutely no intention of surrendering any of my God-given liberties.

May 26, 2004, 01:19 AM
Perhaps Death, http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=939292 [MontyPython woman voice] It's a Mr. Death, something about a reaping..[/Monty Python woman voice], but I might hang on like in the above pic....but probably not to a Glock.;)

May 26, 2004, 01:38 AM
. ......when I am standing in a pile of hot brass around my feet, my barrels are all smoking hot from continuous fire, I've taken all the hostiles with me that I could get in my sights and I am standing there bleedin bad....


May 26, 2004, 01:42 AM
I also will not give up my right to protect my family or myself with the best tool currently available to me which is the good old gun. until they come out with a phaser laser or what ever you what to call them the gun is still the best choice for self preservation. It's a proven fact that the cops can't be in a 1000 places at once to protect every single person. thats why I came up with my Sig line ( I would rather be ready to defend my family or myself then someones after the fact paperwork!

:scrutiny: :scrutiny: :cool:

May 26, 2004, 01:50 AM
What would make you give up your guns? The Grim Reaper

Ben Shepherd
May 26, 2004, 09:04 AM
Some here may remember my thread about my best friend(whom I was closer to than my family, and had know since jr. high) from TFL days.

Here's the short version: He committed suicide with his carry weapon. It's still tough on me at times, and it's been a few years ago now. Maybe I'm just weird or callous, but he did it the gun was only a tool. In fact his widow, who has now remarried, has her CCW permit, and so does her husband. We go shooting together once in a while.

So I guess you could say for me, well just look at the picture CrudeGT posted, that sums it up nicely.

Henry Bowman
May 26, 2004, 09:25 AM
When I see the pearly gates!

May 26, 2004, 09:29 AM
When I see the pearly gates!

Looks like I am never giving mine up! :evil:

May 26, 2004, 09:32 AM
Tons and Tons of money. Then I can go out and rebuy better specimens. :D

May 26, 2004, 09:40 AM
When I see the pearly gates!

So when we get there do we have access to guns from all time? And do we have to get a permit of some sort?

May 26, 2004, 09:59 AM
What would make you give up your guns?

Rigor mortis. :scrutiny:

May 26, 2004, 10:19 AM
God-like Powers.

May 26, 2004, 10:31 AM
Thats a great pic Crude. I think I might borrow that from you.

May 26, 2004, 10:38 AM
Death or quadriplegia.:scrutiny:


May 26, 2004, 10:40 AM
What would make me give up my guns?

One to my head. If it can get that close.

M2 Carbine
May 26, 2004, 11:17 AM

So when we get there do we have access to guns from all time? And do we have to get a permit of some sort?

If you can't have any gun you want and all the ammo you can shoot, red tape free, you didn't get to Heaven:D

May 26, 2004, 11:23 AM
When I start to lose my mental capacity. Some would say that I've missed that gate already.

Zach S
May 26, 2004, 11:33 AM
If my health got to the point where I couldn't safely operate them, that would probably do it. However, I smoke so I doubt I will live that long anyway.

Other than that, death. I'd like to take at least one pair with me. I dont have a pair yet, but I probably will at some point...

May 26, 2004, 01:37 PM
I like the Glock pic, but Glocks just have no soul. ;)


Other than death, it would take a personal command from God to get me to give mine up. :scrutiny: I don't see that happening anytime soon.


M2 Carbine
May 26, 2004, 01:46 PM
Other than death, iIt would take a personal command from God to get me to give mine up. I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Never happen.
If there is a God, he is a "gun person", the nicest kind of people.:)

I would suspect he would be into long range rifle shooting, 10, 15 miles.:D

But how would you know if He's cheating?:confused:

May 26, 2004, 01:58 PM
Like they say in the movies...........NEEVVVVAAAAAAAAA!!!

May 26, 2004, 05:56 PM
Jesus returns.

Without apology

May 26, 2004, 06:06 PM
If somone that I know is in dire need and really needs one, I'd "give one up" to them in a heartbeat. Other than that, the whole "Voice of God" would make me (and some politician banging on a podium on TV doesn't count).

Maybe if there was some disaster and they were all damaged beyond repair... nah. The AK'd live through it, I'm sure. :evil:

May 26, 2004, 06:15 PM
To be honest if divine intervention could promise me noboby could ever hurt me or my kith and kin, I'd gladly give them over of my own volition.

Free will being a very real part of daily life? Never.

and certainly not "for the children", I hate kids ..... Kidding, kidding:neener: :neener:

Seriously, guns in my house are like hammers they serve a limited yet vital purpose. I don't shoot for fun so much as prowess and I only truly have one use for them. It's a tool I'll prolly never need but, if I need it, I'll need it BADLY (to paraphrase W.C.) so the likelyhood I'd give it up is about parallel to hammers to me.

I'll not do it just 'cause folks bang fingers, or lose hands for that matter.

May 26, 2004, 06:31 PM
nothing..when the time comes to put them down,they will be given to my son and whats left to anybody needing one. I'll take 1 with me to the next world.

Chris Rhines
May 26, 2004, 06:37 PM
Apart from death, the only thing I can think of is serious mental degeneration. But considering that I'm probably not a great arbiter of my own sanity (and I REALLY don't care to hear anyone else's opinions on that subject, thank you very much,) let's just say death.

- Chris

Burt Blade
May 26, 2004, 07:02 PM
And yet, when they say, "just the hi-cap mags" or "just the shotguns with short barrels", so many folks say "OK, I still have my (whatever)".

Not many folks bitched when they buggered the full-auto crowd. possibly because they offered McClure-Volkner as gun owner "protection". Now Sten guns go for mid 4 figures. But, your deer rifle is "safe" right? As long as you leave it neutered in the trunk of your car, and stay on the main highway.

Lots of folks say "Molon Labe" like some sort of magic incantation. However, we keep letting our rights slip away, one NRA approved 'compromise' at a time. If we keep compromising, we will soon be compromising to keep our photos of toy guns, while giving up the pictures of real ones. And, if we do not start fighting for the other guy's guns, none of us will have any.

May 26, 2004, 07:33 PM
Shania Twain NAKED!:evil:

M2 Carbine
May 26, 2004, 08:08 PM
Something like Burt said,

You have been giving up your guns and gun rights all your life and you will continue to do so.
In some states it's so bad it's a sick joke.

No one is going to break down your door and demand all your guns. It's too risky for "them" and they don't have to.

They will just eat us alive one little bite at a time and there's nothing you can do about it.

Face it, this is as good as it gets for gun owners and NOTHING is being done to get rid of the antigun laws. We are even having trouble getting rid of the AWB.

From your cold dead hands??
Spread this out over a few years.

So when do you say enough and fight and who do you fight?

When they take your machine guns? Oh too late.

How about when they take some "bad" rifles and pistols? Too late again.

How about if a law is passed against all semi autos? Are you going to shoot someone yet?

Now we want all long guns that hold over two rounds, no one needs more than two rounds, but look we don't want your revolvers and 22 rifles.
You are still a free citizen. You can have revolvers, double barrel shotguns and 22 rifles.

No problem, we are a lot better off than England.

Oh BTW, those revolvers and 22 rifles must be kept at the police station.

No problem you can still keep your double 12 at home to protect your family.
Only 5 shells in the house though but you really only need 2.

Oh, now there is a little $5 a month gun owner's fee (that will go up to $500 a month in three years).

Gee, I can't afford that, the kids need shoes, I'll just have to turn in this old shotgun.

No problem, ammo is $50 a box anyhow.

Too late, you ain't going to shoot now.:)

May 26, 2004, 08:16 PM
When H#ll freezes over? :neener: :neener: :neener:

May 26, 2004, 08:24 PM
I sell almost my entire collection once or twice a year. It's the only way I can afford to buy new firearms. Plus I have no place to store the old ones.

I would give up all my firearms save one or two for creditors, I suppose, or if I moved cross-country. But selling or having firearms taken to pay debts isn't the same as losing the right to keep and bear arms.

May 26, 2004, 09:29 PM
When I can afford to have a couple of armed bodyguards by my side 24/7. Kind of like Rosie O'Donald.

Zeke Menuar
May 26, 2004, 09:58 PM
What would it take to get me to give up my guns?

Bigger better more expensive guns.


Chris Rhines
May 26, 2004, 11:26 PM
I'm not going to shoot anyone over gun control; I'll just (continue to) ignore the laws that prove too oppressive. Eventually, they'll either have to send someone to get my guns, or they'll decide I'm too much trouble and write me off.

I strongly recommend this course of action. Get comfortable disobeying the law now, and you won't have to play catch-up when it becomes a matter of day-to-day survival. ;)

- Chris

May 26, 2004, 11:51 PM
But..........but ....you don't need those nasty ole guns......the police will protect us...

May 26, 2004, 11:55 PM
I personally believe that people that live in gun friendly states will be safe for quite some time. They might have problems from the federal level, but there are relatively safe at the State level. People that live in CA, NJ, NY, and other antis states have more to fear from the state police then they will ever have to fear from the Feds.

May 27, 2004, 08:05 AM
Jesus coming back, guns don't go in the Rapture

May 27, 2004, 09:58 AM
... when I can exchange them for a rechargeable Phaser with *all* the settings: Heat, Stun, Kill, Disintegrate (leaves no messy BG remains to puzzle the cops). ;)

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