Illinois: SB2165 passes with veto proof majority


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Jeff White
May 26, 2004, 09:16 PM
Well I wonder what kind of fits Daley will have over this? :D
Jeff



Homeowners who shoot intruders win support
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
05/26/2004

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. - Ignoring a veto threat, Illinois legislators voted Tuesday to offer greater legal protections for homeowners who shoot intruders despite local ordinances barring handguns.

The legislation was a response to the case of Hale DeMar, a Wilmette, Ill., restaurant owner who shot a burglar who had broken into his home twice. Prosecutors declined to press charges for the shooting, but Wilmette officials charged DeMar with breaking the city's ban on handguns.

Under the bill now headed to the governor, someone who shoots an intruder on his or her property couldn't be convicted of violating a local gun ban. The bill would not prevent state charges if prosecutors believed the shooter committed a crime.

Gov. Rod Blagojevich vowed to veto the measure if lawmakers approved it, but the House and Senate passed it by large enough majorities to override a veto. Tuesday's Senate vote was 41-16.

Blagojevich still intends to veto the bill, said spokeswoman Rebecca Rausch. She said the law would encourage people to obtain guns and conceal them in defiance of local ordinances.

Todd Vandermyde, a lobbyist for the National Rifle Association, said the Democratic governor would have a hard time explaining that veto to voters.

"He'll have to make his case for why it ought to be open season on homeowners," Vandermyde said.

Officials from Wilmette and other city governments complained that the measure would take away their right to create and enforce local restrictions.

Sen. Jeffrey Schoenberg, D-Evanston, argued that the system did not need to be fixed and that it worked in DeMar's case - DeMar was not prosecuted for shooting someone who threatened his family.

"Why do you feel the need to fix it unless you're looking to set a precedent that will weaken the ability of local communities to have their own tougher gun laws?" Schoenberg asked.

The bill is SB2165.

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sm
May 26, 2004, 09:25 PM
She said the law would encourage people to obtain guns and conceal them in defiance of local ordinances.
I believe folks have long known the effectiveness of "gun right now"versus being on hold with 911. More citizens are learning it seems, only the elititist don't want others to learn...for fear of loss of control.

Officials from Wilmette and other city governments complained that the measure would take away their right to create and enforce local restrictions. "Why do you feel the need to fix it unless you're looking to set a precedent that will weaken the ability of local communities to have their own tougher gun laws?" Schoenberg asked.

Did I mention control of the Elite?

El Tejon
May 26, 2004, 10:18 PM
*Dancing on desk, a la Billy "White Shoes" Badger*

buy guns
May 26, 2004, 10:33 PM
*** how does this city get away with having a ban on handguns?

Don Gwinn
May 26, 2004, 11:07 PM
Where ya been, Buy? Wilmette, Morton Grove, Chicago, Washington D.C. . . . .Tombstone. . . . handgun bans go way back.

buy guns
May 26, 2004, 11:15 PM
but in cities like chi and dc i thought you could at least keep them in your house?

it sounds like in wilmette you cant even have them within the city limits.

Standing Wolf
May 26, 2004, 11:47 PM
She said the law would encourage people to obtain guns and conceal them in defiance of local ordinances.

She ought to be fired from public employment.

mrapathy2000
May 27, 2004, 12:43 AM
She said the law would encourage people to obtain guns and conceal them in defiance of local ordinances.

and this is different from gangbanger carrying illegally daily in chicagoland area how?

twoblink
May 27, 2004, 01:52 AM
My buddy Darian is about to move out of "The Cesspool that is Chicago" (Jeff White's quote), because he can't get the guns he wants. Don't blame him..

Let's see ...

Bad guy breaks into my house with intent to harm me and my family, and the law should PROTECT THE BAD GUY... right.... :rolleyes:

My old manager's house has a big sign that says "President of the Upper New York Chapter of the American Shotgun Club." I asked him, is there such a club? ... and are you really the president?

"What the perps don't know..." :evil:

carpettbaggerr
May 27, 2004, 04:53 AM
Sen. Jeffrey Schoenberg, D-Evanston, argued that the system did not need to be fixed and that it worked in DeMar's case - DeMar was not prosecuted for shooting someone who threatened his family.

So he broke the law and wasn't prosecuted. And this means the system is working fine? :confused:

Ben Shepherd
May 27, 2004, 08:49 AM
Yet another baby step in the right direction............:D

HankB
May 27, 2004, 09:02 AM
This sounds like a step in the right direction. . . . the law would encourage people to obtain guns and conceal them in defiance of local ordinances. As a former inma...errr, resident, of Chicago, I can confirm that local anti-gun ordinanaces were routinely ignored by large numbers of peaceable, taxpaying, otherwise law-abiding, citizens, who didn't need legal encouragement. My buddy Darian is about to move out of "The Cesspool that is Chicago" (Jeff White's quote), because he can't get the guns he wants. He can't drive outside the city limits? :confused: ;)

Boats
May 27, 2004, 10:52 AM
She said the law would encourage people to obtain guns and conceal them in defiance of local ordinances.

She says that like it is a bad thing.:D

USAFNoDAk
May 27, 2004, 04:33 PM
Sen. Jeffrey Schoenberg, D-Evanston, argued that the system did not need to be fixed and that it worked in DeMar's case - DeMar was not prosecuted for shooting someone who threatened his family.

But wasn't he prosecuted under Willamettes ordinance for having a handgun to defend himself? What is this guy talking about? What a bunch of double speak. That guy should be voted out at the next election.

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