British man's guns seized


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papercut
May 30, 2004, 07:36 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/staffordshire/3760075.stm

Man released after weapons seized

Army officers were called in to ensure the house was made safe.
A 74-year-old man arrested after the discovery of a large amount of weapons and ammunition has been released on police bail.

Detectives found the stash on Friday at a house in Stone Road, Hanford, Stoke-on-Trent.

The haul included pistols, shotguns and rifles, as well as gunpowder, ammunition and some chemicals.

A police spokesman said the man was released on Saturday evening pending further inquiries.

Chief Inspector Paul Gianassi said he did not know what the weapons were intended for.

"I think it's far too early to say, but we're not making links to terrorism.

"What we have to do is make laborious and detailed inquiries so that we're satisfied that none of this ammunition is linked to criminal activity."

Army officers were called in to ensure the house and the firearms were made safe.

Haven't found anything that says how many guns there were, but I think it's safe to say that the judges on the 5th Federal Circuit Court of Appeals are likely to have more than this guy did....! :D

And for those who don't get the joke, it's related to a remark that one of the judges said to the federal prosicutor in the U.S. v. Emerson case.

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Feanaro
May 30, 2004, 07:49 PM
"I think it's far too early to say, but we're not making links to terrorism.

Well gee, thanks. We needed to know that a SEVENTY FOUR YEAR OLD wasn't planning any terrorist activities with his EVIL FIREARMS! Because we all know firearm owners, especially seventy year old firearm owners, are likely to be terrorists.

Standing Wolf
May 30, 2004, 08:36 PM
Chief Inspector Paul Gianassi said he did not know what the weapons were intended for.

Shooting, perhaps.

Parker Dean
May 30, 2004, 08:53 PM
Detectives found the stash on Friday at a house in Stone Road, Hanford, Stoke-on-Trent.


So what, were they just sorta passing through the guys bedroom and happened to look under the bed or something?

ceetee
May 30, 2004, 09:18 PM
Nah..... You just know he pissed somebody off and they ratted him out...

F4GIB
May 30, 2004, 09:30 PM
This took place in England. There is NO fourth amendment there (no freedom either - at least not that an American would recognize). This gentleman is a decendent of those who LOST the War of American Independence.

Standing Wolf
May 30, 2004, 10:13 PM
This gentleman is a decendent of those who LOST the War of American Independence.

I'd never thought of it that way. Thanks, eh?

The Real Hawkeye
May 30, 2004, 10:52 PM
And for those who don't get the joke, it's related to a remark that one of the judges said to the federal prosicutor in the U.S. v. Emerson case.Ok, I give up. Spent a half hour researching the case and have not found the quote this refers to. What is it?

papercut
May 30, 2004, 11:40 PM
Hawkeye,

It refers to a reported remark by one of the judges to the federal prosecutor, in which the judge said something to the effect of, 'between the three of us [the judges on the panel hearing the appeal], we have enough guns to start a war in a banana republic.'

The Real Hawkeye
May 30, 2004, 11:50 PM
Thanks, papercut. That's pretty funny.

papercut
May 31, 2004, 12:03 AM
Your welcome. The circumstances surrounding that are funnier than my reply makes it seem, because the judge (figuratively) slapped the federal prosecutor in the face when he said it.

I wish I could find the docs I had from the case, then I could give you a better context for it. Maybe Jim March or someone else can get that info.

P95Carry
May 31, 2004, 12:11 AM
Oh dear (sad sigh) ..... poor ol' bugger ..... harmless as they come I'll wager ... who refused to hand stuff in when told. What a sad state of affairs.:(

joab
May 31, 2004, 01:27 AM
Judge DeMoss also had a great comment for the Government Attorney:
"You shouldn't let it bother your sleep that Judge Garwood (the senior judge) and I, between us, own enough guns to start a revolution in most South American countries." http://www.saf.org/pub/rkba/news/EmersonOralArguments.htm

WonderNine
May 31, 2004, 02:00 AM
"What we have to do is make laborious and detailed inquiries so that we're satisfied that none of this ammunition is linked to criminal activity."

I thought owning guns and even ammunition was a "criminal activity" in itself there?

Hal
May 31, 2004, 05:52 AM
LOL!
So the Judges can start a revolution. Big deal. My bet is that between all the members of THR we could finish a revolution. Which is exactly why we're different than Merry Olde.

iapetus
May 31, 2004, 06:35 PM
WonderNine


quote:"What we have to do is make laborious and detailed inquiries so that we're satisfied that none of this ammunition is linked to criminal activity."



I thought owning guns and even ammunition was a "criminal activity" in itself there?



Depends on the type of gun/ammo (and what permissions you have, etc).

The UK government is currently thinking of reviewing our firearms laws. They've got a "consultation paper" containing some of their thoughts on the subject, which also includes some info on the current laws.

There is some info on the laws here:


http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/docs3/controls_on_firearms.pdf

papercut
May 31, 2004, 08:01 PM
Joab, thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for.

Treylis
June 1, 2004, 09:25 AM
Nah..... You just know he pissed somebody off and they ratted him out...

Probably a child or grandchild who was freaked out that their father/grandfather had some of those evil guns, I'd bet.

geegee
June 1, 2004, 09:58 AM
Probably a child or grandchild who was freaked out that their father/grandfather had some of those evil guns, I'd bet.
Or an Englishman (of the younger variety) who has now been subjected to enough brainwashing, that he really believed he was doing what's right. Surely the government knows what's best for them.

There must be people there that were alive when the British helped turn back Germany in the Battle of Britain, who must wonder "What's become of my country?" :mad:

HankB
June 1, 2004, 10:06 AM
. . . gunpowder, ammunition and some chemicals. The way the UK is going, it wouldn't surprise me all that much if the "chemicals" included things like dihydrogen monoxide, sodium chloride, sodium bicarbonate, cream of tartar, sodium aluminum sulfate, primary calcium phosphate, ethyl alcohol, ammonium nitrate, and dilute acetic acid.

(water, salt, baking soda, baking powder, booze, fertilizer, and vinegar.)

Gump
June 1, 2004, 12:11 PM
(water, salt, baking soda, baking powder, booze, fertilizer, and vinegar.)



OMG! Do you know what happens when Baking Soda and Vinegar are mixed?:eek:

Lock him up!!!!!!!!!!!:p

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