COMMANCHE revolver. Any good?


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firestar
February 11, 2003, 01:34 PM
I have seen these revolvers for very cheap ($100). What is the deal? Are they junk or are they decent?

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9mmepiphany
February 11, 2003, 03:07 PM
they are a spanish copy of the smith m-19 and were made when spanish steel was of somewhat questionable quality. if i had one, i might be reluctant to fire many .357mag loads through it.

the one that stands out in my mind was the guy shooting next to me at an outdoor range. he was having a hard time grouping his shots on paper and some of the holes on his target, when we were taping, looked a little oblong.

after a few more shots, somthing shinny seemed to fly downrange from his gun. closer examination revealed that it was part of one of his casings. apparently they had forgotten where to stop with the chambering reamer...it was drilled all the way through
:cuss:

EJ
February 11, 2003, 04:41 PM
NO--

If you do ( because it is so cheap) Be VERY carefull

SoDFW Jason
February 11, 2003, 05:26 PM
HAd one, had to send it back because the glued on front sight fell off. They sent me a whole new gun, I was a ahppy camper. 50 rounds at the range, the crown blew out causing the rounds to "keyhole" like the previous gentleman said he saw.

It's a POS, take it from someone who knows.

Walosi
February 11, 2003, 07:45 PM
The Comanche suffered from many things, including soft steel. Part of our CCDW class is an inspection of the guns to be fired on the range test. I've checked three Comanches - none passed. Two had yokes so soft that closing the cylinder (ownners were original buyers) had cause the yoke to twist slightly. One was so far out it would not fire on two chambers. POS is a general description. Anything more specific would have to be printed somewhere else.

firestar
February 11, 2003, 07:51 PM
Thanks for the info.

I will pass on them, I don't need it anyway.

Big Gay Al
June 27, 2004, 02:19 PM
Just a little followup on the Comanche. I bought a Comanche III 3" blued .357 magnum. They are made in Argentina, not Spain.

There's no glue anywhere that I know of holding anything together. I had a problem at first with the trigger sticking almost full back on firing. But that went away after about 20 rounds.

I've not seen any soft parts. It all appears to be made out of hard steel. With the exception of the rear sight. It's made of metal, but I don't think it's the more expensive metal. The front sight is held on by a pin of some sort.

I've fired .357magnum rounds and .38 Special +P in it with no real apparent problems.

Just thought some of you might want to know.

Diamondback
June 27, 2004, 03:30 PM
I believe it was "Josey" who recently reviewed this line of Argentine revolvers. You may be interested in doing a search using the word "Comanchee" and read his favorable review and other members comments on these guns.

-Regards

stans
June 27, 2004, 04:10 PM
Seems there are two different revolvers out there bearing the name "Commanche". The first was the Llama Comanche I, II, III, and Super. These were made in Spain. I know only one person who owned a Comanche III, he complained that no matter how much he adjusted the rear sight, it printed way to the right. An exam of the gun revealed the barrel was pointed way to the right of the frame, no fixing that one!

The new ones are made in Argentina and the manufacture's name is Comanche and they bear little resemblence to the Llama Comanche series. I have not seen one in person, but the pictures of them just don't inspire me.

Josey
June 27, 2004, 04:27 PM
The RSA/Firestorm Commanche I, II, III and IV are good revolvers. I have had 0 problems with them. The 22 Commanche I likes CCI Mii-Mags and that is about all it likes. 22 Bricks from Wal-Mart gave sticky extraction issues. I too have had some trigger issues. I cleaned and lubed the trigger reset and they worked fine. Great deal for the money.

Big Gay Al
June 27, 2004, 04:51 PM
I think I should have been a gunsmith. I just violated my own rule, I took apart my Comanche III, COMPLETELY, except for the sights, without ready access to the exploded view that came with it.

I had a few parts that fell out and a couple of small springs that decided to liberate themselves.

I managed to keep track of all the parts, and with a little deductive reasoning, put everything back together the way it was before...except, I forgot, or rather didn't see a little spring that helps keep the cylinder in place. I discovered this once I had everything back together. The cylinder didn't want to close, kept hitting the cone.

Found the spring, got it back together once more, now everything is as it should be.

(Note to self NEVER do that again!!!)

Josey
June 27, 2004, 06:16 PM
I do think there are a LOT of parts in the Commanche revolvers. The odd thing is that anybody can put one together though, WITHOUT the instructions. They are fairly simple.

Big Gay Al
June 27, 2004, 06:59 PM
Yup, when I compare it to the Ruger Police Service Six and Security Six I used to have, it does have more parts. But I was able to figure it out, after some time at least.

The great news is once I got ALL the parts back in place, it was like I'd never even opened it.

Other than that, I think it works pretty well.

stans
June 27, 2004, 08:18 PM
Well, if you take anything apart, then put it back together with parts left over and it more or less works, then you just did it better than anyone else! At least that is the rule I usually live by.:D

By the way, do I reaaaaaaly need these pad thingies that fit on the big disk like thingamabob that the wheels mount to on my car?:uhoh:

BlkHawk73
June 27, 2004, 08:22 PM
You get what you pay for!!:neener:

Big Gay Al
June 27, 2004, 08:33 PM
Yes, you do get what you pay for, most of the time. Sometimes you get a little less, and sometimes you get a little more.

I definitely got more for my money, and I am very happy. Specially now that I know how it comes apart. ;)

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