I've been thinking about buying a Kahr for years and finally, today, I bought a diamond black finish PM9. It has to be transported from Oregon to Washington so I won't be able to pick it up until next Monday, but I'm really excited to get it. It will probably be my traveling buddy when I ride my motorcycle (I do have a concealed weapons permit) as I have found my 1911's just a bit too big and heavy for taking along most of the time.
I'm wondering if it's worth having the Elite trigger put in or a lighter trigger spring. Also, does this model function reliably with +P defense loads? If anyone has much experience with this model and any words of advice on it's reliability, use, break-in, preferred ammo, IWB holsters, etc. I'd appreciate hearing from ya. Thanks for your thoughts....
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June 1, 2004, 10:43 PM
:) First of al "Welcome to THR." Read the manual, the PM9 needs 200rd break-in. I own a PM9 and a P9. You already have the trigger you need in that model. I use a pocket holster by R J Hedley who is also a member of this BB, it looks like I have my wallet or a PDA in my front right pocket when I'm sitting down, standing up it dissapears. The manual "says" it is rated for +p ammo, however my individual decision was to use Federal Classic 115gr HP 9BP. This is a non +p load that I can hit with and do fast follow up shots. Some of my friends use +p corbons and speer gold dots, both +p and standard. Break the pistol in with some wally world ww115gr ball ammo, then find the "ammo that allows you" control and combat marksmanship that you're happy with. Hope this helps.
June 2, 2004, 02:01 AM
Texas Bob... thanks for the note. Is the "Elite" trigger standard in all new PM9's now? I remember hearing about some functional issues when the PM9 first came out, what, about three years ago? I presume Kahr has the new PM9's dialed in very well. (Hope so anyway!)
I'm sure looking forward to blasting away with the little bugger and carrying it on my motorcycle rides. I've been shooting 1911's so much and for so long that I'm looking forward to a little more variety.
I almost bought the PM40, but remembered that when shooting defense loads out of my two Browning High Powers in .40 (fairly big & heavy guns) what a whallop that caliber gives back to the shooter... effective as a defense round, but really not very enjoyable to shoot or practice with a lot... so I decided the PM40 would not be the best combination of caliber and gun size/weight, for me anyway. I reasoned that 9mm would offer reasonable stopping power and also allow me a LOT more enjoyable practice time and much more affordable ammo... also allow more controlled and accurate shooting under the stress of a defense situation. A well placed 9mm round is more effective than a poorly placed .40 round. Anyway... I didn't intend to turn this into a 9mm vs. .40 cal. post... just explaining why I chose the PM9 over the PM40. I do still have my BHP's in .40, though i don't shoot them much.
June 2, 2004, 05:29 PM
DHart, welcome to THR. I also have a PM9. I carry mine in a cheap Uncle Mike's pocket holster in my front pocket. When I can I carry a light weight Commander sized 1911 in a IWB holster. At times when that is not an option I go with the PM9. I have not shot mine a great deal, but it has worked ok with every type of ammo that I have tried in it. Watch-Six
June 2, 2004, 05:43 PM
I have both a PM9, and a K40. I agree that the P40 sounds like a handful, but I have to say that the stainless K40 2003 Elite is both beautiful, and very comfortable to shoot. My PM9 with +P rounds is *very* snappy - a sharp fast recoil for a small light gun without a lot of grip. As I mentioned in another current thread here, I don't use +P in it anymore, it's just not confidence inspiring (most other folks don't share my opinion on that, and shoot +P through it regularly). But overall the gun is great! It's the smallest format I've fired that still feels like a "real" gun and not a toy. The overall quality, trigger, and the night sights that I have on mine are all fantastic. Makes a great pocket gun.
What type of bike do you ride? I'm moving out to Oregon in about a month, but I'm selling my bike before I go to lighten the load... :(
June 2, 2004, 05:55 PM
Welcome to the Highroad forum and good luck with your new Kahr PM9.
It's a great little gun but you will have to get use to the new small grip.
My experience is that it requires more practice to get use to it and become a decent shooter. I found that if by putting my trigger finger in to the first bend of the finger, I can get better control. It's only a 2 finger grip and that takes some getting use to. The mag release button I find is not long
enough for a quick release. Maybe it's me. Overall, be patient with it, it's a reliable gun and hides easily.