Washington State: Updates on CHL Recognition?


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Lupine
June 1, 2004, 11:24 PM
I heard a few months ago that Washington State passed legislature that is supposed to go into effect June 2 (tomorrow) stating that it would recognize CCW permits from states with similar requirements. Anybody know if this is true, and if it goes into effect as scheduled? I've held off getting my out-of-state WA permit so far...(I'm an Oregonian)

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Bobarino
June 2, 2004, 03:29 PM
For Immediate Release
March 26, 2004 For Interviews Contact:
Senator Val Stevens (360) 786-7630
Feedback: stevens_va@leg.wa.gov


OLYMPIA…Families have gained extra help today as the governor signed Senate Bill 6642 and Senate Bill 6643, which are designed to reunite families faster. The governor also signed Senate Bill 5083, which allows the state to recognize other state’s concealed pistol license (CPL).

“When a child is removed from the home, parents are shocked and are in a state of disbelief,” said Sen. Val Stevens, R-Arlington and prime sponsor of all three bills. “It is difficult from them to understand what they need to do to get the children back, and oftentimes it is something very simple.

“Social services have meetings to help parents, but for several reasons they are not happening,” Stevens added. “Families can help each other better and faster than any government service we can provide.”

SB 6642 improves the case conference process to ensure the children are returned as quickly as possible. In addition, SB 6643 prevents a judge from limiting visitation rights between parents and children. Some judges prevented visitations to motivate parents to comply with court orders.

“Families need every chance we can give them to come back together,” Stevens said. “The only exception to the bill is if the child’s health, safety or welfare could be at risk.”

SB 5083 has the attorney general’s office maintain a list of states that recognize Washington’s CPL. If a state follows the same strict guidelines as Washington and recognizes Washington’s CPL, then Washington will accept the other state’s license.

“I believe that people who wish to defend themselves should be given the opportunity to carry and bear arms even when traveling between states,” Stevens said. “It’s been an unfair practice of not honoring other state’s CPLs, and it needed to be corrected.”

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Bobby

Bobarino
June 2, 2004, 03:36 PM
CERTIFICATION OF ENROLLMENT

ENGROSSED SENATE BILL 5083


Chapter 148, Laws of 2004


58th Legislature
2004 Regular Session


CONCEALED WEAPON PERMIT RECIPROCITY



EFFECTIVE DATE: 6/10/04
Passed by the Senate March 9, 2004
YEAS 48 NAYS 0


BRAD OWEN

President of the Senate

Passed by the House March 4, 2004
YEAS 93 NAYS 2


FRANK CHOPP

Speaker of the House of Representatives



CERTIFICATE

I, Milton H. Doumit, Jr., Secretary of the
Senate of the State of Washington, do
hereby certify that the attached is
ENGROSSED SENATE BILL 5083 as passed
by the Senate and the House of
Representatives on the dates hereon set
forth.


MILTON H. DOUMIT JR.

Secretary
Approved March 26, 2004.

GARY F. LOCKE

Governor of the State of Washington
FILED

March 26, 2004 - 3:19 p.m.



Secretary of State
State of Washington
_____________________________________________

ENGROSSED SENATE BILL 5083
_____________________________________________

AS AMENDED BY THE HOUSE
Passed Legislature - 2004 Regular Session



State of Washington 58th Legislature 2003 Regular Session

By Senators Stevens, Benton, Mulliken, Roach, Oke, Esser, Swecker and
T. Sheldon

Read first time 01/15/2003. Referred to Committee on Judiciary.


AN ACT Relating to recognizing concealed weapon licenses issued by other
states; and adding a new section to chapter 9.41 RCW.

BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON:

{+ NEW SECTION. +} Sec. 1. A new section is added to chapter 9.41 RCW to
read as follows:
(1)(a) A person licensed to carry a pistol in a state the laws of which
recognize and give effect in that state to a concealed pistol license issued
under the laws of the state of Washington is authorized to carry a concealed
pistol in this state if:
(i) The licensing state does not issue concealed pistol licenses to persons
under twenty-one years of age; and
(ii) The licensing state requires mandatory fingerprint-based background
checks of criminal and mental health history for all persons who apply for a
concealed pistol license.
(b) This section applies to a license holder from another state only while
the license holder is not a resident of this state. A license holder from
another state must carry the handgun in compliance with the laws of this state.
(2) The attorney general shall periodically publish a list of states the
laws of which recognize and give effect in that state to a concealed pistol
license issued under the laws of the state of Washington and which meet the
requirements of subsection (1)(a)(i) and (ii) of this section.
Passed by the Senate March 9, 2004.
Passed by the House March 4, 2004.
Approved by the Governor March 26, 2004.
Filed in Office of Secretary of State March 26, 2004.


score one for the good guys. hopefully Oregon will recognize WA permits soon too.

Bobby

CleverNickname
June 2, 2004, 05:59 PM
Hopefully Oregon will recognize WA permits soon too.

Oregon doesn't recognize ANY out of state permits. :cuss:

MikeT11
June 2, 2004, 06:04 PM
OR will never honor WA permits since WA doesn't require taking a class.

Gray Peterson
June 2, 2004, 06:46 PM
No, Oregon will not recognize WA because there's no recognition or reciprocity in their statute books.

Carlos
June 2, 2004, 07:52 PM
:(

George S.
June 2, 2004, 08:35 PM
I believe that the WA State Department of Licensing is responsible for updating the list of states that WA will recognize based on the wording and intent of the law that was just passed. I recall reading somewhere that DOL was going to work immediately on investigating what other states meet the criteria for being recognized and updating the information.

Keep checking at www.packing.org for information on updates.
http://www.packing.org/talk/thread.jsp/26299/

Gray Peterson
June 3, 2004, 07:42 AM
It would probably appear here:

http://www.dol.wa.gov/ppu/firfront.htm

They should update this page on the 10th.

George S.
June 3, 2004, 07:42 PM
link doesn't work!! when I looked at the part of theDOL website that pertained to CCW, I found a statement that said that WA does not recognize CCW permits from ANY other state!! DOL apparently doesn't update their web pages very often.

rick_reno
June 3, 2004, 08:32 PM
I'm hoping they'll honor Idaho's permit - I've over there ever week or two.

kd7ctv
June 3, 2004, 11:57 PM
Ummm wasn't it the attorney generals office that was charged with the task of coming up the the list... Also it's only a week away, it'll be interesting to see what they come up with, I wouldn't doubt that it'll be delayed....

Zak Smith
June 10, 2004, 08:47 PM
June 10th is here. Anyone have new information?

I'd heading to WA in two days!

-z

Gray Peterson
June 10, 2004, 10:23 PM
AG's Office Screws Us Over (http://www.packing.org/news/article.jsp/9675/)

Gregoire's piece of meat to the anti-gunners. Not even Washington State's CPL meets it's requirements!

Zak Smith
June 10, 2004, 10:52 PM
The bill as passed says that reciprocity exists if (1)(a)(i) and (ii) are satisfied.

Then in (2) it says the A.G. shall publish a list of those states it believes (my addition) meet those requirements.

Anyone see the same hole I see?

-z

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