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WAGCEVP
June 5, 2004, 10:16 AM
Something you might want to be aware of

Subject: Layton declares gun war

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20040604/ELECLAYTON04/TPNational/Canada

Layton declares gun war

By STEVEN CHASE
Friday, June 4, 2004 - Page A8

WINNIPEG -- NDP Leader Jack Layton is pitching voters on a Canadian-led
campaign
for tougher U.S. gun laws that includes bending the ears and twisting arms
of
American congressmen.

He says Ottawa should send envoys to Washington to fight for strict firearm
laws
in the United States because American weapons smuggled into Canada are a big
cause of gun violence in this country.

"We are proposing going across the border . . . and actively engaging in
lobbying to have gun-control laws in the United States strengthened," he
said
during a campaign stop in the Prairies yesterday.

He's especially concerned about preventing any relaxation of U.S. laws that
might result in more types of guns flowing north.

New Democrats also want assault and automatic weapon sales banned in Canada
and
a security curtain thrown up at ports and borders to stop an influx of
contraband U.S. firearms.

"We want a dramatic stepping-up of efforts to stop illegal guns coming
across
the border."

Overhauling the gun registry is not mentioned in the NDP's 63-page election
platform. But Mr. Layton was very clear on his intentions yesterday. "We've
said
it needs to be fixed," Mr. Layton said. "It's been botched terribly."

Liberal Leader Paul Martin's party has committed to rework the registry, and
the
Conservatives have pledged to scrap it.

NDP officials later clarified Mr. Layton's remarks, saying the party would
try
to fix the registry and replace it, or scrap it, if that was not possible.

Veteran NDP MP Lorne Nystrom of Regina opposes the registry as an
ineffective
waste of money. He said at least three other NDP MPs agree with him.

He said he believes the NDP has no consensus position on the matter and that
Mr.
Layton's comments likely reflect his own opinion.





Tracey Kleim
Canadian Director
Women Against Gun Control

"Women helped take away guns. Now women must help get them back."

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Ben Shepherd
June 5, 2004, 10:33 AM
Must mantain self control on language......
family friendly board......

WHAT A :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: .

Must be a Soros understudy.

I got news for him, directly from me:

IF YOU CAN'T VOTE, GET OUT AND STAY OUT, OR I'LL PERSONALLY THROW YOU OUT, YOU :cuss: :cuss: !!! This is my country not yours.

joebogey
June 5, 2004, 10:45 AM
The thing about arm twistin, is that it can go both ways.

Don't Tread
June 5, 2004, 10:47 AM
I think the NRA or GOA needs to go to Canada and lobby FOR gun Rights, see how he likes that,

And while we're at it charge every Senator and Congressman who panders to foreign governments with TREASON

angrywalkindude
June 5, 2004, 10:54 AM
And while we're at it charge every Senator and Congressman who panders to foreign governments with TREASON And hang them!

capt_happypants
June 5, 2004, 11:43 AM
<south park>

Quick! Someone hide the Baldwin brothers!

</south park>

mountainclmbr
June 5, 2004, 11:53 AM
I have been to Ottawa several times in the past few years and the newspapers are full of editorials against the gun registration scheme and against the disaster that the nationalized health care has become.

The Gun registration scheme has now cost the government over 1 Billion dollars and compliance is very low, especially in the western part of the country.

Many Canadians opt to come to the USA for emergency healthcare because the waiting list is too long in Canada. It can take up to 6 months to get a MRI, but after 5 p.m. the medical centers can charge for veterinarian services and your dog can get right in.

The newspapers here in the USA don't carry stories about the Canadian experiment in Socialism going the same path as those who failed before them. The liberal media here should just change their name to Pravda West.

Nightfall
June 5, 2004, 01:06 PM
Liberals like this were the first to scream that the USA has no business going into other people's nations (Iraq) and telling them 'how to live'. But coming into the USA and telling Americans how to live... well, that's different! :rolleyes:

EDIT: I agree, any Congress person caught trying to pass American laws for the sake of people living in Canada should be charged with treason.

The Real Hawkeye
June 5, 2004, 01:16 PM
American weapons smuggled into Canada are a big
cause of gun violence in this country.No, the big cause of gun violence in your country, like every other western country that has ever tried it, is highly restrictive gun laws, and no legal means to carry concealed for self-defense. This has been proven over and over again. I cannot believe it is out of stupidity that they ignore this blaringly obvious fact. It has to be an evil intent to impose socialism world-wide under a one-world master government. You cannot impose such a horrendous system on a free people, so they must first be made slaves to the state, which means they must first be disarmed by government.

TallPine
June 5, 2004, 01:29 PM
Maybe we should have "liberated" Canada instead of Iraq ....?

:neener:

Stebalo
June 5, 2004, 01:39 PM
Similar thread

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85336

SDC
June 5, 2004, 03:37 PM
Layton is a socialist TOOL, and he's pandering to the sheeple in downtown Toronto who are worried they can't go pick up some milk without being caught in a Jamaican gangster drive-by; the GOOD thing about this is that the NDP has never polled more than 20%, so he has NIL chance of putting any of this into effect.

angrywalkindude
June 5, 2004, 03:41 PM
Maybe we should have "liberated" Canada instead of Iraq ....? It's not to late.:D

Standing Wolf
June 5, 2004, 05:13 PM
...American weapons smuggled into Canada are a big cause of gun violence in this country.

What a fool! Obviously, the cause of crime is criminals, not firearms.

CrudeGT
June 5, 2004, 10:00 PM
They have a problem with guns coming into their country so their solution is to attempt to penalize us? I have an idea, stop being lazy, and start patroling your own borders a little more effectively.


Ohh, and by the way, Canada, your lease is up, and we need the parking space, could you get the lights on your way out...:evil:

Highland Ranger
June 5, 2004, 10:37 PM
I say we invade.

cheygriz
June 5, 2004, 11:09 PM
Wouldn't it be great if we could get all gun owners to BOYCOTT all Canadian products, and totally boycott fishing and hunting trips to Canada?

Then we could tell them to repeal their gun laws, and we would call off the boycott.

Hey! If it's fair for them, why not us?

CrudeGT
June 5, 2004, 11:12 PM
I like the invading idea too. Put my vote down for that one.

westex
June 6, 2004, 01:07 AM
I personally don't like the idea of invading a country where THEY look too much like US. I want to know who I'm shooting at. Now in the next North South thing I'll just listen for them talking before I shoot.:D

M1911Owner
June 6, 2004, 01:17 AM
I say we invade.Naw, they're not worth the bullets...

Let's just just wait until The Day After Tomorrow and let them all freeze to death. ;)

newguy123
June 6, 2004, 03:40 AM
Don't worry. Us Canadians with sense won't vote for these idiots. Full of crap. I just turned 18 so I get to vote and I'm going conservative. They say they will scrap the registry. These dumbass doesn't speak for anyone but himself. A a Canadian my biggest dream would be the US invading and me having the RIGHT to have firearms. As I have said before on this board after I'm done school hopefully I can move to a better place like Vermont. All the smart Canadians are on www.canadiangunnutz.com

WAGCEVP
June 6, 2004, 10:12 AM
Alot of my Canadian cohorts say we shoulda invaded/ liberated Canada instead of Iraq :)

RocketMan
June 6, 2004, 11:13 AM
I say we invade.

I know of a group of Boy Scouts looking for a public service project.
They should be able to handle it nicely.
Might make for a good looking merit badge.

Goet
June 6, 2004, 11:17 AM
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gryphon
June 6, 2004, 11:38 AM
Criminals will be criminals. They will find what htey want somehow. the black market exists everywhere.

The Real Hawkeye
June 6, 2004, 11:44 AM
I say we invade.What, you mean again? We already tried it. It was called the war of 1812. Read your nation's history folks. :scrutiny:

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