The Old Fuff Nails Tuner

Tuner … ah has got you now…

When you dangled that nickel-plated S&W .44 at me awhile ago I knew I would have to take major, and I do mean major steps to obtain proper proper vengeance…

I would lie in bed at night and stare at the ceiling and visualize that ol’ .44…

But now…

You will beg… You will plead… You will make obscene offers… You may even offer too do my cooking … including fresh coffee of course, (though under the circumstances I’m not sure what you might put in it).

Why ????????????

Because in my hot little hand there is - - a genuine Colt model 1911 (not 1911-A1) trigger!! You know, like they made during the “war to end all wars,” and before.

Not the junk they put out now … you know the kind, made with a stamped dead-soft bow roll-pinned to some kind of pot-metal or plastic fingerpiece. Them with holes or slots or heaven knows what in them … Some even have little screws to mess things up. Absolute trash!!! They didn’t do it this way in the good ol’ days. Sam Colt and John Browning would spin in their graves if they knew what was going on. Metal injected molding indeed!!! Next thing you know they’ll be making guns out of that polymer stuff.

No Tuner, this is the real thing. Made out of solid milled steel – fingerpiece and bow all in one piece. I think it may have John Browning’s fingerprints on it.

Our younger members have never seen such a wonder … but you and I know what it is don’t we??? Yes indeed we do! Are your palms beginning to sweat??? Do you feel a bit light-headed??? Is your heart pounding??? Am I getting to you???

Now I was going to put this in one of my pet guns … as soon as I learned how to take it apart - those old Colt’s are tricky … But getting back at you is far more important than any single gun. I am consumed with my evil intentions. My eyes glow in the dark… In the night’s cold mist that fleeting shadow is …

This will cost you big time … did I mention that it’s like new??? By now you are but putty in my hands.

I will accept U.S. or Confederate cash, U.S.P.S. Money Orders, or gold coin… Pirate treasure is O.K. too…

Or maybe just a P.M. with your mailing address…

Good on ya, Ole Fuff. Maybe Tuner will put that trigger in his Mossberg, um, Springfield parts gun. :cool:

HE WOULDN'T, WOULD HE!!!

Then again, I suppose to him there isn't any difference between parts. Given that he doesn't know any better maybe I can slip him a "stamped and pinned" old junker.

how much you want for it?

Personal attacks will not be tolerated on THR, Fuff.

:D :) :D :) :D

Could you post a pic? I'm not sure I've ever seen such a creature as you describe.

Smoke - the youngun

:D

This is gonna be good...

Hell no I ain't taking sides. I might be dumb - I ain't stupid!

Old buddies, old friends, oh pals of mine...:p

Hey, I'll buy that from you for 10 bucks... I have an old AMT Hardballer with a broken trigger. Could use a replacement.
Maybe use it to snazzy up an old Auto Ordinance I have at the back of my sock drawer.... or use it to build up that Norinco frame... yeah... that's the ticket!
;)

Will it fit my Llama!? :evil:

Are Old Fuff and Tuner destined to be the Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau of THR?

Grumpy old gun men?

who gets to be burgess merideth?

The baby bear looked and he said, "Somebody's been sleeping in my bed, and the bastard's still there!" But Goldilocks had a Remington semi-automatic, with a scope and a hair trigger!

Smoke:

I'll see what I can do about pictures.

George Hill:

That's a very generous offer - but you may have to talk to Tuner.

Andrew wyatt:

You too may have to talk to Tuner, but at the moment George bids $10.00.

Josey:

YOUR LLAMA? ? ? !!!!!!!!

FPrice and pauli

Some misguided people have associated me with that movie. But why would any of you $%$$%^ people think I was grumpy?

Whew!

I noticed I was not mentioned in Old Fuff's post.

That means I'm still in good graces with both "gentleman" it seems - right?

:D

Put it this way ....

I don't know where Tuner is, but you'd better start building your bunker. It's always the non-combatants that get hurt the worst ...

"who gets to be burgess merideth?"

Better yet, who gets Sophia Loren??? :what:

This is just too funny here! :D

Pal! My idol! My hero! Ya know I'm a long-time admirer and champion to your cause...Namely, fightin' the good fight to get Smith & Wesson to
put the firin' pins back on the hammers where they belong!

I'll cook your supper and have it Fed-Exed next day delivery and pay
a fancy gourmet chef to come to your house to re-heat it and serve it
up...Fuff! I GOTTA have that trigger! I'm on my bony knees!

I await your final judgement, O Exhalted One...

Your most humble servant,

Tunga Din

http://www.tucineportal.com/contenido/JACK%20LEMMON%204.jpg
Fuff and Tuner...

George ...

But I thought it was the other way around. Who are those guys?? Incidentally three different friends have given me videotape copies of that movie. Are they trying to tell me something???

Tuner ...

So there you are, AT LAST!! Some of these folks are trying to buy that trigger, and George made a $10.00 offer - although he didn't say if it was Yankee or Confederate money.

It's sitting here by my keyboard in all of its glory - 100 percent solid steel. No holes in the fingerpiece, and no roll-pins, plastic or pot metal.

I keep thinking about that nickel-plated S&W .44. Maybe we could swap --- triggers(?). Then again, I'm not sure you know how to take it out ... Maybe I'd better forget about this.

I haven't looked yet, but I presume a P.M. won't be slow in coming.

In the meantime you can explain to these good folks why an excellent condition 1911 trigger is worth groveling over.

Ah am not a dayum Yankee, bah gawd!

Confederate notes from this Son of the South!

VIRGINIA!!!!! The FIRST COLONY!

(but, uh, currently living in *ahem* Utah...)

ROTFLMAO ........ :D

So - is this ''Fuff vs Tuner'' ....... ''Tuner vs Fuff'' ..... I'm not sure.

I guess water pistols at dawn (10 paces) - would be a fair way to determine final ownership of this treasure. First one to hit the other fair and square in the eye -- wins!

Do we have volunteers for ''seconds'' ... this needs done right.:p

I'd much rather see a pic of Sophia Loren - :D

Being in and a Son of the South...I'd have to remember where I buried that Hill Bros Coffee can with the Condederate money ...

Okay, how about a dozen fried apple pies. Homemade with the fork marks, for that trigger.

Now folks that know me will tell you I take homemade fried apple pies darn serious. I mean real serious. Folks just think fighting over water rights is serious...don't go for my pie. :p

NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tuner will bring that old nickel-plated S&W .44, and it don't shoot water no way ... He just sent me a P.M. - and you have no idea what lengths he'll go to ... I may have to send him that trigger to save my hide.

And me with nothing but a water pistol ... Ah just can't win no how ... People are always taking advantage of the elderly.

Not me.
I'm the rebel that sneaks fried apple pies to my elders at the hospital...Shift change is a good time to do this btw...

Hummmmmmm .....

Now I got to think about those apple pies ... fresh ... homebaked ...

Tuner may be in trouble ....

What's a Sophia Loren? I've heard of Colt and Kimber but that's a new one ...

i'm pretty sure it's italian, and prefered by guys more your age than mine.

Fuff ... surely you remember the attractive ''double barrel'' piece .... quite exquisite. :) :)


http://www.torrinifotogiornalismo.it/attualita/sophia.jpg

definately cnr material...

I hereby nominate this thread for FUNNIEST THR THREAD KNOWN TO MAN.

Do I have any co-sponsors? :D
Wes

Thread - Yes

Keep the home-made fried apple pies outta this..Serious business down here in the south.

We hung the last fella that snickered...

:p

hahha ..... enjoy Wes .. I doubt this is over yet ..... not until the fat lady sings!:D

Don't even know her name either!:p There's a problem for starters!

Wes:

If I can get you laughing it's worth it, even if it cost me a "genuine Colt 1911 all-steel trigger." Unfortunately I don't have anything similar for a Browning Hi-Power.

On the other hand I don’t think they have any MIM, cast or plastic parts either.

sm:

I would never ... ever... snicker at a piece of genuine southern fried apple pie ....

That other fellow deserved to be hung.

P95 Carry:

Now that is a ... ah ... very high caliber model you have there. Obviously Colt and Kimber leave something to be desired ...

Fuff ..... it's all down to the variation in the grips ... !!!!!!!!!!! :p :evil: :D

I think Tuner has retreated into his cave to plot evil doings. Who knows what he may offer next??? Perhaps an even-up trade for an old off-brand .32 top-break with a bent barrel or maybe a .25 auto with plastic-pearl grips and a cast zinc frame and slide? I can see that I won't sleep easy tonight ...

P95Carry:

You are of course refering to the advantages of a double stack vs. single stack magazine, are you not???

old off-brand .32 top-break with a bent barrelRumor has it -- it'll be the ol' H&R (may have the Ivor Johnson logo) top-break in .32 ... the one with the cracked cylinder, but straight barrel. At this very moment tho (rumor again!) ... it is reckoned that this is being brazed in readiness for a final polish. Mind you - there is a guarantee that the plating is peeling .. all over :p

Bonus tho - it does IIRC come with a free box of BP loaded ammo. Just so as cleaning can be practiced to the full.

(Hmm top-break ..... that word ''break'' ..... hmmm ........ ):D

double stack vs. single stack magazine, are you not???Bwhahaha .. well, I didn't feel the need to elaborate Fuff but yeah .... the double stack sure has it! :D

(Thread viewers - any more good innuendo? .... it's (clean) fun!)

Didn't Ann Margaret play the Wife of either Lemon or Matthau? :)

Yes, some things always have class and age with style...Some things are classic and ought not be altered - but revered ( the pies) ...some folks never understand or appreciate.

Homemade Fried apple pies
fixed in a cast iron skillet...
Good rope
A well done noose
1911's


Gina Lollibrigida
Sophia Loren
Ann Margaret

I keep getting distracted...need more pics...I need to focus - on something:D

Ol'Fuff said:

Now I got to think about those apple pies ... fresh ... homebaked ...

Tuner may be in trouble ....

What's a Sophia Loren? I've heard of Colt and Kimber but that's a new one ...
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I KNEW I shoulda stayed up with this one last night! I can't believe
that MY PAL FUFF is about ta sell me out for a fried pie and a picture
of a hot Sicilian babe that married a guy shorter than she is and uglier than I am!!!

Put the trigger on the table an' back away...an' nobody gets hurt!:fire:

No "injection moulded" parts on Sophia or Ann-Margaret. :what:
They just don't seem to make them like that anymore.
And when they do they're sooooo unaffordable. :evil:

The ones who make Thehighroad one of the best sites on the web!!!!!!
I visit everyday to see what they have to say.
I am 65 yrs. old and have fooled with guns all my life but have learned more from them about 1911's than in all my years before.

See guys, I told you! Ol’ Tuner has flipped out and is coming for me. Him and that old .44 ….

I knew this would happen. Tuner goes bonkers whenever a genuine 1911 trigger gets mentioned. Notice his complete disrespect for Southern fried apple pie, (and it sounds soooooo good!) How can I resist???

He didn't even offer me a Tuner-tuned .25 pistol with real plastic pearl grips and a cast zinc frame and slide ...

Well I’m going to have to make a choice. Do I give in to his ugly threats and send him the trigger, or fort up and fight it out. What’cha think????

This calls for tactical weapons. The latest good stuff. Where did I put my percussion caps???

Calling Dixie Gunworks!!

PAL FUFF is about ta sell me out for a fried pie and a picture of a hot Sicilian babe...
uhum...like you wouldn't - right?

Hey maybe the fellow Sophia married has Barstock and not MIM parts...

BluesBear :D
Yep drastic plastic just ain't right for some things...

I don't know folks...marbles, tiddley-winks, timed disassembley and reassemble of a 1911...First one to get Sophia Loren's or Ann Margaret's phone number...

sniff...sniff...I just heated up a pie to go with my coffee...excuse me...

While we're on the topic....

This is a recent picture. I looked for, but couldn't find a shot showing more of both barrels.

But this model is both C&R and all-American.

She's in her 60's, now.

http://www.femail.com.au/img/images/raquel_couch.jpg

I love my wife's homemade apple pie fresh from good old Amish country, Lancaster county, PA. But how does one make a Fried Apple pie (My Dahmn Yankee blood is Showin') It sounds wonderful. My favorite is a crust cover apple pie with a slice Swiss cheese melted on the top.


I give an old DA cap gun missing a grip panel for that there trigger.:D :D :D

LOL
What we have here folks is triggers, gun parts, comedy/tragedy, women, bribes, blackmail, deceit, conniving, and now recipes.
Ain't 'puters and the 'net great!! :D

Brian-

Cast Iron Skillet
Get the Crisco

Roll and flour the dough, dust with flour.
Do the apples like she does for a pie.

Put apples in the dough - fold over into a "half moon" shape .
Crimp the edges with the fork - Mighty important step.

(Hanging offense if not crimped with a fork. Besides the fork-crimping removes all fat grams, carbs, cholesterol , sugars and calories)

Put in the cast iron skillet until one side is brown, turn and brown the other side.

NO pie pans. Easy to stick in pocket, desk drawers, behind monitors to conceal. Easy to eat while driving...

Oh - you pick the darn thing up and eat with fingers. Forks are for crimping - not eating. :D

Oh tell Gus! I don't know if she cooks...but if a gal can do this , daddy's melt, husbands are putty ...

She has to have a Lodge (tm) cast iron skillet. Don't care what else she gets for a wedding present - this is a must.

We expect a report on how the Mrs. Brian does with these...

I've been to PA ( don't ask what county I got lost in...I was trying to figure out whether to take the blue, yellow or whatever color lane to head back south)...anyway there is a Place In West "by gawd" Virginia...that knows how these are done. GREAT RIBS, required 2 plates to hold the rack ( and 1.5 napkin dispensers to eat) They got 'em...Forget the name...it is the one with the Rebel Flags out front. :D

You could head out that way to check them out...I think you take the purple lane...
We just dodge orange construction bbls down here...We send out fellas with trucks and equipment...they start building wherever they get an itch to...takes abou 20 yrs ....but sometimes we end up with routes that go somewhere and intersect...

For that recipe I just might have to side with you on this here trigger thing.

I'm not real sure what it means, when fried apple pies are more valuable than other gun parts, or women. :D

Apple is my Favorite. One can do Peach as well...

Now it is time to play hardball for the trigger. I didn't mention the "other" variety of fried pie. Goes w-a-y back to the depression era...

Old Fuff...you remember the Chocolate Fried pies old buddy old pal...

Sometimes one has to break the rules, play dirty , play hardball...;)

Judgin' by the responses in this thread, I think maybe me and the Fuffman
oughta go on tour. I'll even take second billin' on the marque 'cause my
daddy taught me "Age before Beauty" and all...We can make it an exhibition and lecture tour that'll show these whippersnappers the way
things Oughtabygawdbe. Won't be long, the only real steel in guns are
gonna be in books and museums. When ya'll young fellers are tellin'
your grandchildren about how pistols used ta be made of stuff they
called forged steel, they'll roll their eyes and give one another that
look that says: "Suuuure gran'pa...and ya had to walk 15 miles to
the range uphill both ways in snow up to your hips, and shoot ammo that ya had to load up yourself."

Time's a-wastin! I'll drive...:cool:

Cheers all! Coffee time in Old Caroline

Tuner

Chocolate!, now I am on your side for sure.


Only if I get the recipe....

OBTW Gus is larnin' how to cook now she has her own place but has a looonnnnngggg way to go to match MOMMA. I just wish Momma would shoot like Gus....

Lodge (tm) cast iron skillet-Where would I find one and about how much do they cost?

I can make anything that has a recipe and much more without one. :D :neener: :evil:

Hmm I'm kinda lost on the rest of this. I'm happy with my SP101. Also Jon would not be happy if I posted my pics here to try to compete with some Sicilian woman.

what seperates a fried apple pie from an apple turnover?

what seperates a fried apple pie from an apple turnover?

The Mason Dixon Line and about 273 grams of fat...

:D

O.K., I’m going to resort to phyco-logical warfare. When it comes to defending myself anythin’s fair. So I am posting a photo-grafic of this genuine Colt 1911 trigger for all too see. When Tuner sees it and notices the tool marks on the bow he will truly know that it is indeed made from one block of metal. This will undoubtedly cause him to go into a frenzy, and I can make my escape.

As for his idea of a tour --- how many of you will buy tickets???

So I am posting a photo-grafic of this genuine Colt 1911 trigger for all too see.

Cool, but I WANT TO SEE THE WHOLE GUN!:fire:

My best good friend Fuff said:

When Tuner sees it and notices the tool marks on the bow he will truly know that it is indeed made from one block of metal.
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Lordy, Lordy...How long has it been since I opened up a 1911 and saw a real trigger fall out? :rolleyes: I miss the good ol' days...

I'm gettin' all choked up over here. I may just put that trigger in a display
case. :)

When it comes to defending myself anythin’s fair. So I am posting a photo-grafic of this genuine Colt 1911 trigger for all too see.

Must...stop...drooling...on ...keyboard...

This is a riot!!

Thank-you all for the great thread!

Sawdust (mmmmmmmm...fried apple pie...)

Sawdust said:

This is a riot!!

Thank-you all for the great thread!

Oh, just wait'll I post one on the weekend I just spent with a forum member's Kimber. It's gonna be a good read and a technical issue
all wrapped up in one. He and his wife will be headed back to Ole'
Miss tomorrow in the A.M. I may have it here waitin' for him when he gets home...:D

The title could probably be:

"My 1911 Submachine Pistol and the Myth of the Drop-In Trigger Job"
It was a hoot! Wish I hadda taken a picture of his face when his baby ripped off that first 3-shot burst...:cool:

WOW! That is ...is words don't describe.
Oh my...I may have to up the ante'- steal a watermelon, raid a Grapette Truck, and toss in some genuine garden grown Sage...

Gus -
For more info on Lodge Cast Iron
http://www.lodgemfg.com/useandcare.asp

Local Mom & Pop Hardware Stores are good place to look. Lodge is a O-L-D company, since 1896. Made in TN :cool:

*ahem* like the Trigger , Lodge manufactures a quaity product, nice and heavy, they have not compromised quality. Sad to say there are "some similar looking products - they are not the same.

I know PA has them...I think it was Altoona, PA I stopped in a Hardware Store and saw them.

One needs a Dutch oven, the one with legs and the lid is flat and has a lid - remember Lonesome Dove and the scratch biscuits being cooked? See one can use in the fireplace, out camping - with the coals underneath and on top the flat lid with the lip - it is a "oven" one can bake . Depending on Gas or Electric stove top some folks complain about the short legs..

The other style Dutch oven does not have the legs, Stovetop, oven, for frying chicken, cooking a roast...

One needs a 8" and 10 " skillet - always get the lids , nice and heavy to keep the juices in.

And the best kept secret . the itty bitty 6" . Instead of using muffin pan and baking cups...well now....One Big Blackberry muffin , cooked so well, thorough, golden brown top...slice it like a pie.

I use the itty bitty when I cook cornbread for my lonesome. I use the 10" to make a big batch, for more than me...or when I need cornbread to make dressing , like in turkey and dressing...and I use real garden grown fresh Sage too.

Nothing cooks Cornbread like cast iron.

See I was 'raised right" this here Southern Boy can cook...

Gus - your pics...hey I've seen your pics, I contributed toward that SP101 ...I have never contributed toward a Italian woman's birthday in my life. We think you are that special around here. :) That dad of yours is a right sharp fella himself.

OH cast Iron...hit a BG with a cast iron skillet - down for the count.

Brian...please tell me you and Mrs Brian know about Chocolate Gravy. I do know a way to cheat tho'. You use the chocolate gravy inplace of apples in the fried pies.

Jiminey...I'm going to have to come up there and straighten you and P95Carry out it seems...:)


Apple turnovers...Apple turnovers!! Where is my gun....Apple Turnovers are ...are...TOO Flacky. :neener:

Allright...dagnabbit...Triggers...were talking triggers...

Ya'all gotta see this...
http://www.gunpix.com/gallery/Miscellaneous_and_Oddities/trigger 01.jpg

Yeah, I know.
Anyone else saved this image to file, printed it out...and just stare, drool, dream, wish, and run into door jambs...?

Okay...gotta ask. Does anyone make anything "Close" to this? What would it run to do so?

I gotta bad case of wants - wants for a old genuine gummit .45....

Hey Tuner, don't let them torment you like that.

I got one of them new fangled nylon Colt triggers that looks sorta-kinda like that one. I'll put some scratches on the bow and from 20-30 yards no one will be able to tell the difference.

Hells Bells™ I'll just box it up, insure it for 83¢ and send it to you snail mail so you can be free of all those temptations. ;)

Popcorn. We need popcorn.

B-Bear:

How dare you use the "N" word on this thread! I have kept that ino-cent, genuine Colt 1911 trigger away from such ugly influences. Why I even made sure it didn't hang around with the pot-metal crowd. (Sniff) How can one be expected to protect their trigger’s moral integrity when certain people expose the courser truth concerning the depths that our society has fallen? (sob).

On the other hand if you can get away with sticking Tuner with one of those nylon parts, well I suppose one does have to sacrifice some principles these days.

Fuff, it's because of people like Pam Anderson that we truely appreciate ladies like Sophia Loren.

Remember that during the 1960s and 1970s Llama did more to encourage sales of Colt automatics and S&W revolvers than anyone else.

Now ya'll don't gimme a hard time over my nylon triggers...I happen to
like'em. They're the right length and shape...They drop in and work on
any commercial Colt that I've stuck'em in...and they duplicate the feel of the
good old triggers that Fuff is hoardin' and holdin' my feet to the fire over.
They go into my range beaters for practice so it's like pickin' up the same gun when I put my hand on one of my carry guns.

Now that my best good friend Fuff is sendin' me a real trigger, my carry battery will have a new member...and that's just too cool.:cool: Now
I've got one for January...one for Februrary...one for March...etc. etc.
Life is GOOOOOOD!

Actually, the trigger has been assigned to a 1914 Colt restoration that's
in the works. No, it won't be 100% correct...due to the rather small selection of correct-for-the-era barrels available...and the thumb safety is
from a WW2 GI Colt...but it'll be close enough to make me happy.

Fuff...You've saved the classy old girl from the humiliation of havin' to wear a nylon trigger out of an early 1991A1. She is in your debt.;)
(1914 is the year that my daddy was born. I'm on a mission here.)

Bedtime! 0400 comes early around here.

Tuner

Tuner... Congratulations! My favorite 1911 (Series 80 Govt. model), wears a nylon trigger.

Steve... Thanks a lot! I let Sandy read this thread for grins. Now I guess we're shopping for Lodge (tm) cast iron cookware. ;) :D

Seems hers isn't any good any more, and she wants to try your fried apple pie. (Her family is from Austin TX, does that qualify as the south?)

Cheese? On Apple Pie? BLASPHEMER!


Everyone knows you put homemade Vanilla Ice Cream on Apple Pie!


And for the uninitiated: Could someone tell me what the big deal is about an original 1911 trigger?

Does this mean FRIED PIEs are the Offical Munchy Food of THR now ?:D

I have no affliation or financial interest in Lodge. [ probablty gonna wish I did tho'].

Nope just a Southern Boy that knows a "little bit" about what is true and correct.

Mike that trigger is made the way with the materials JMB designed it.

Some of Todays triggers, guns and metallurgy would be compared to - Benz going to Nylon tires, , plastic instead of wood interior, hanging a AM radio off the rearview mirror and "genuine imitation vinyl" seats.

[ please tell me I ain't the only one that remembers Nylon tires...Bias Belt tires...anyone...oh boy...There was tires before radials ...they even had inner tubes...the best was the red inner tubes...that is the one used for slingshots]


Oh Oh...don't Forget the neat pot holder looking dealies that cover the cast iron's handles folks...Must have! :D

I volunteerto sample any and all recipes sent my way....just helping out ...being neighborly. :)

Hold up !

Whaddya mean Sandy sez "hers ain't any good anymore". I'm using one my grandmother used. I'm 49 y/o....I have no real idea how old that one skillet is.

Sandy - please tell me you did not let that sucker rust...Please!

I have salvaged some , been stored wrong or went through floods. HOT Soapy water. [ I have used the car wash for this on one really realy bad one]

Pat dry, Crisco the heck out of it, All over inside and out,lid too. Fire up the charcoal grill...open side down on a metal plate, pan something.

See the Lodge website I gave earlier. Best to cook bacon and such the first time or two.

Bacon an 'mater sandwiches...Bacon for the Turnip Greens...Salads.Baked taters...

Great...not only have I got to go to PA and Straighten out Brian , Chris and Gus...Swing by Tuners ...I have to head to Larry's straighten Sandy out....might as well run down Old Fuff ....I'm sure I can get into trouble most anywhere I end up...

Maybe see CRSam...I figure he knows what is what...He knows about cast iron, triggers and chocolate fried pies...

Sheesh...the things I do...

please tell me I ain't the only one that remembers Nylon tires...Bias Belt tires...anyone...oh boy...There was tires before radials ...they even had inner tubes...the best was the red inner tubesNope - not alone Steve .. in my region, those ''pre-radials'' were what we called ''cross plies'' ..... the sorta tires that once running a street car rail ... would go where ''they'' wanted to go .... :D not only have I got to go to PA and Straighten out Brian , Chris and Gus...Swing by Tuners ...I have to head to Larry's straighten Sandy out....might as well run down Old Fuff ....I'm sure I can get into trouble most anywhere I end up... This is gonna be a long trip ahead ... give us a shout and we'll start a pot for your gas money!:)

Colt and USGI Model 1911 Triggers:

And for that matter, 1911-A1 triggers made prior to World War Two, were machined from a solid block of steel or a forging. This was expensive, especially by today’s economics but the resulting part was very sturdy and unlikely to get bent or otherwise distorted. By comparison the triggers made now might be described as “delicate.” You can also weld or braze a steel trigger, and that allows gunsmiths to build up certain areas for custom fitting.

You find a lot of 1911 pistols that have been rebuilt with later (and sometimes inferior) parts. If such a gun can be restored to its original configuration the value will rise substantially. Regrettably, finding original 1911 parts is getting increasing hard too do, and when they are found they are often very expensive.

Tuner knows all this (and a whole lot more). At the moment he is restoring/rebuilding a pistol made in 1914. Finding pre-World War One guns is difficult at best, but financially rewarding for those who succeed. Sending him a trigger that he desperately needs for his “project” is but a small way to say thank you for the help, knowledge and encouragement he has given so many on this forum.

Fuff said:

Sending him a trigger that he desperately needs for his “project” is but a small way to say thank you for the help, knowledge and encouragement he has given so many on this forum.
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Now dang it Fuff! Ya done gone and made my eyes all teary. How am I s'posed ta write up smart-alecky responses if I can't see the dagnabbed
screen??? Stick to the program! Gimme a hard time! I can deal with that!

:) Thanks for the good words, Fuff...I'm just doin' what I love here...
plus it helps keep me outta the gunshops, spendin money on just one more
gun that I don't need, but just gotta have.:D

This forum has netted me a good many friends...and one just left yesterday
in the late afternoon, headed back to Mississippi. He and his wife provided us with some of the best company that we've had in a long time, and we look forward to a return visit soon. So ya see...I have gotten so much more than I've given.

Tuner

IIRC
A small plate silver soldered to back of trigger bow stirrup would take up the travel if need.

No itty bitty allen wrenches needed. No allen screw to muck things up if a serious situation presented itself.

Interesting how the Old Gun was designed with certain materials for a reason - huh?

Perhaps it was thought through more than folks think - not totally because of material at hand at the time...

sm sez:
Does this mean FRIED PIEs are the Offical Munchy Food of THR now ?

I'm in as long as there is a big dollop of Blue Bell vanilla on top.

Uh, nylon triggers?:scrutiny:

Sawdust

Tuner:

Not to worry, I haven't gone soft. I plan to steal that '14 gun away from you after you get it fixed.

Besides them young folks that follow this forum need to be educated about the realities of life ...

Still though, the thought that you might have put a nylon trigger into a 1911 frame is pretty upsetting. Have to say that was a close call.

Old Fuff, Tuner, Chris ...somebody with a camera HELP! :D

Allright you whippersnappers pay attention - I'm going to edjumacate - try to one more time.

FRIED PIES are FRIED!
In a cast iron skillet. Half moon in shape with fork marks :D

Now I like apple pies, I like a variety of pies...these you folks are thinking of are BAKED.
:D :D

You don't put ice dream on a FRIED PIE...it falls off...because you eat them with your fingers. The fork is used for crimping the edges to hold in the filling.

You take the FRIED pie , holding in fingers, and you can dip into Ice Cream.

Yarnell's ...or real homemade ice cream.

Ice Cream made with Cream - that is homemade.

I'm gonna get a headache if I have to explain what "cream" is. :D

Somebody please post a PIC of FRIED PIE...Please!


Old Fuff, Tuner...I think I just may have stumbled onto why we have some design problems today made from inferior metals.

They ain't feeding folks right like they used to. :D

I bet that fella that designed a nylon trigger had Quiche for lunch....:p

Somebody please post a PIC of FRIED PIE...Please!

well, google gives me this:

http://www.kittygirlvintage.com/images/40s_cell_fried_pie_dress_clips_L.JPG

apparently, one of you questionable characters gets to accessorize. o_O

edit: and to match those classic bakelite grip panels, how about a bakelite bracelet?

http://www.kittygirlvintage.com/images/40s_blk_grooved_bake_bangle.JPG

i tell ya, you can't make this stuff up...

Moparmike you have not truely had dessert till you have had Lancaster county Apple pie with a slice of Lancaster county Swiss cheese laid on a piece of hot out of the oven. It must be the way the Amish make their Swiss cheese that adda a little Farm to it.

Steve I know all about Cast Iron cooking and have about 6 skillets just need a good Dutch oven
I gotta 4" one that is great for 3 eggs and got a 16" one that we use to make Fried Macaroni and cheese and if that doesn't coat the arteries I do not know what will

Fried Mac and cheese

cook L dental 1 lb of ZITI or RIGATONI
Cut into 1 inch blocks 1 to 1 1/2 lb of Cheese Chedder, Colby jack, Monteray jack but not stringy like Motsarella
Git the Iron skillet hot with Tb spoon of Crisco or lard
On high heat put in the 1lb of Ziti
then quickly put the cheese down into the macaroni and keep on high heat till the cheese melts.
Then lower heat to a high simmer and let sit until cheese gets a nice crust on the bottom, flip as needed to spread the crust around.
Serve hot with a good grilled round steak and occasionally slobber the steak drippins over your serving of Mac and Cheese.

Corn bread should be only made in a skillet...

Tain't stupid just a Dahm Yankee

So, do you crimp the edges before or after you take it out of the oven?

How do you hold a whole pie in your fingers?

Is that skillet thingy non-stick?

You crimp the edges before you put it in the iron skillet on the top of the stove.

I figure pie is about 6" long and similar to a hostess fruit pie you find in a convenience store, should be easy to pick up.

Iron skillets are non stick if you fry enough and do not wash in detergent just wipe the pan down with hot water and fry some more.

Brian -

I have had some Apple Pie and the Swiss Cheese from "the Amish". Dang Good Stuff. I met a few Amish folks , really great folks. They did mention my speech and grammer differed a bit from theirs. :D

Southern Boy talks with the Amish. Discusses food, tools, and all sorts of stuff. Yes it went a really well.

Well I see by your "arsenal" of Cast Iron - you were raised right. That daughter needs a starter set.

Good Recipe. Thanks.

Z_Infidel

Go to Lodge and read up. The original non stick surface.
http://www.lodgemfg.com/useandcare.asp

I posted earlier the how to make. Short version is the filling is crimped in with a fork then fried.

The pie is two tads bigger than a slice of bread folded corner to corner.

Don't make me define "tad" , "smidgen", or "tumped". :p

Heck the Amish knew what I was talking about... nodding of head means they understand - right? :)

Oh Oh, speaking of Stuff made really well , TOOls with great wood and metal, that lasts and lasts....Hand tools, Homemade Furniture made , and the tools they used....oh I went nuts. Plane, chisels., etc drool...oh my...I wanted some of those tools...WOW!

Guys, that post was entirely tongue-in-cheek and meant to get sm further riled... sorry I didn't make that more clear. We've had just such a skillet in the family for years. ...was just enjoying the light-hearted humor of the thread, shoulda kept my nose out of it.

I do like reading discussions involving 1911s and have gotten a lot out of what tuner & fuff have said on many occasions.

Z_Infidel said:

Guys, that post was entirely tongue-in-cheek and meant to get sm further riled... sorry I didn't make that more clear. We've had just such a skillet in the family for years. ...was just enjoying the light-hearted humor of the thread, shoulda kept my nose out of it.

Awwwwww...We knew that! If I know sm, he's rollin' on the floor over it.
if there's one thing he ain't shy of, it's a sense of humor. This was one of those threads that invited a friendly flame war anyway...:D Fuff knew
what it was gonna lead to when he started it. He shoulda just titled it:
"Let's roast Tuner!"

Bad Fuff! Bad! Sit! Stay!
:p

Oh, hell, guys. What's all this fuss about friend pies? It sounds a whole lot easier to just take a Hostess (apple) Fruit Pie outta the wrapper, stick it in the microwave with a slice of Kroger brand Swiss on it, and let 'er rip for about 15 seconds. Can't be THAT much different. I mean, it even has the crimp marks and everything...

(G, D, & R. VERY quickly!)

..Joe

Joe said:

Oh, hell, guys. What's all this fuss about friend pies? It sounds a whole lot easier to just take a Hostess (apple) Fruit Pie outta the wrapper, stick it in the microwave with a slice of Kroger brand Swiss on it, and let 'er rip for about 15 seconds. Can't be THAT much different. I mean, it even has the crimp marks and everything...
_____________________

Are yew tryin' ta git kilt here? Hostess pies is the same as grammaw's
home-made fried pies??? That's like that salsa that's made in New York
City, fer cryin' out loud! That's like puttin' mushrooms on a cheeseburger!
It's like when they changed the formula for Coke and thought nobody would notice!

Fuff...This guy would use a nylon trigger and put white imitation pearl grips on a pre-war National Match!

Jeeeeez!

Tuner
:neener:

Pearl grips? Ya mean just like the ones Gen. Patton had on his "killin' gun" ?









... kidding... I'M KIDDING!!!

It sounds a whole lot easier to just take a Hostess (apple) Fruit Pie outta the wrapper, stick it in the microwave with a slice of Kroger brand Swiss on it, and let 'er rip for about 15 seconds. Can't be THAT much different.


those dahm hostess pies are $1.29 ea , get the cheap store brand pies at 5/$1.00...
you'll never notice the differance ...
(and use velvetta)...
and whats wrong with a nylon trigger and poil grips on a nm colt...?
now on an SA 1911 that would be tacky , but a colt ? they'd be right at home... :neener:

joegerardi sez:
It sounds a whole lot easier to just take a Hostess (apple) Fruit Pie outta the wrapper, stick it in the microwave with a slice of Kroger brand Swiss on it, and let 'er rip for about 15 seconds. Can't be THAT much different.

Sigh...get a rope. :what::scrutiny::D

Sawdust

AAAAARRRRRGHGHGHHHHHH

sm said
Get the Crisco

Amateur. Manteca is whats called for when frying pies. (Thats lard for those further from the southern border.) Pure animal fat. Makes a huge difference. Also seasons the cast iron better.

Lodge cast iron skillets are nonstick after they are well seasoned.

Never use soap on them, scrape 'em off, recoat with lard, use again. Gotta agree with almost everything sm told you.

psssst, sm:

try apricot sometime, the ones my mother made will make you forsake your southern roots for a bite. When making fried apple pies, put some pecans in mine.

Sophia Loren, Ann Margret, heck, I always liked older women...even married one. But I don't have anything bad to say about some of the crop of young women being turned out today. And sometimes, technology is a good thing. Nylon triggers, silico.....never mind.

Smoke

Fried pies vs Baked pies! Lard vs Crisco! Can we get back on topic???

Uh...What the hell IS the topic anyway...:confused:

Dang! Now ya'll got me all confused here...Somebody post a good barbecue sauce recipe and we'll call it even!

You mean the topic wasn't fried pies? Oh yeah, wait it was cast iron, no....Oh, I Know it was MIM skillets,....no, no thats not it....Llama triggers?

I lost all functional brain cells somewhere between the first pic of Sophia Loren and the Crisco comment.

Of topic again....I always thought you put American Cheese on baked apple pie, not swiss. :confused: Ice cream is better, homemade of course.


From earlier in the thread....what seperates a fried apple pie from an apple turnover?The

Mason Dixon Line and about 273 grams of fat...


That is the funniest thing I've read....and very true.
There is a lot of flavor in those 273 grams though.

Now for BBQ sauce....

Smoke

ANYONE WHO WOULD PUT FAKE PEARL GRIPS AND A %#$&& NYLON TRIGGER INTO OR ON A PRE-WAY COLT NATIONAL MATCH PISTOL DESERVES TO BE:

SHOT

HUNG

DRAWN & QUARTED

BOILED IN OIL (or Crisco)

AND SUBJECTED TO ANY OTHER METHOD OF VILE EXTERMINATION THAT THE ASSEMBLED MEMBERS OF OUR ESTEEMED FORUM CAN THINK OF!!!!!!!!!!

Smoke -
IF I had mentioned lard folks would have had no Idea of what I was talking about. Crisco I figured they would remember from Frat and Soroities get togethers in college. :D
[Don't make me explain - besides, its more fun to hear brains go "click" when they figure it out] :D

Apricots are good, so you gonna have those when I come down to trim Mesquite trees using .45ACP and 12 ga shotshells - right.

Muscedine...you got mucesdine...I like muscesdine too.

I think I have carpet burns from ROFL. I got to laughing so hard I lost count on the turns of rope - while making a noose . Had to keep starting over.

Gonna keep the noose handy. Store bought pies, fake cheese MIM parts...pearl grips!

Now pay attention. Tuner and Fuff gonna point out something educational.

That trgger, the dealie you put your index finger on...oh phoooey this thing ... [supposed to be a pic of Fuff's trigger here]

There is no itty bitty hole in the front. There is no need for itty biity allen wrenches.
You get in a serious situation that itty bitty allen screw if not adjusted proper can STOP the gun. Mr. Murphy is good about showing up at the wrong time.
THE PISTOL was designed to be a combat weapon. I'd call that serious situations. So designed to fight, be a tool unto itself if need ...there ain't a itty bitty alen wrench nowhere on the gun. Not bigger allen wrench for the stocks either.

So in the event one needed to take up travel they would silver solder a small plate to the back of trigger bow. It ain't gonna go anywhere. It ain't gonna get out of adjustment.

See this here pistol was well thought out.

Excuse me I need to put some more Aloe Vera on my carpet burns now...

I bet nowhere in the history of the " Handguns Autoloading" Forum has there ever been so much multi-tasking going on.


Moderators-
Stephen Camp is sitting there , as usual taking this all in...Kaylee too...Art I saw you peeking aound the corner as well...

Making notes on the technical aspects...shaking heads in agreement...munching on FRIED not BAKED pies. :D

Fuff screamed:

ANYONE WHO WOULD PUT FAKE PEARL GRIPS AND A %#$&& NYLON TRIGGER INTO OR ON A PRE-WAY COLT NATIONAL MATCH PISTOL DESERVES TO BE:
________________________________

DEATH TO THE NEW MIM ORDER!!!! HANG THE BEAN COUNTERS!!!

AAEEAAAEEAARGH!

HOSTESS MICROWAVE PIES?!!! NOOOOOOO!

RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!!!

>> DEATH TO THE NEW MIM ORDER!!!! HANG THE BEAN COUNTERS!!! <<

You are much to kind to those ##$%$$&$$ so-and-so's.

Besides it's my Birthday and I wanted Chocolate cake with my wife's chocolate fudge icing.....

but some fried apple pies will happen soon.

Brian ... amidst the meleé and general mayhem this thread has degenerated into ( :D ) ... just let me take a sane moment to wish you ....

''Happy Birthday''.

OK guys .. back to the lunacy!!:p :D

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Near forgot ... Z_infidel said ... So, do you crimp the edges before or after you take it out of the oven? I was wondering with this .. roll or taper crimp!???:o

When I first read the topic: Old Fuff Nails Tuner

It cause me to experience a mental image that has haunted me for three days.

Ohhhhh God...... there it goes again. Make it stop.... Make it stop!

I see it all now …

This is a plot to distract me while Tuner moves in to grab the only available “genuine” Colt model 1911 trigger on this whole forum.

You all know I can’t keep my mind on triggers while you gab about delicious Southern Fried Apple Pie (and associated extras). My resistance and moral certainty has totally crumbled in the face of this onslaught. I am undone – totally wrecked – defeated. I can’t stand it anymore! I going to have to go get some apples ….

Now if I had some of Tuner’s coffee in the morning to go with the pie ….

Maybe there is an upside to this ……

Hey everybody , Brian has chocolate cake with chocolate fudge icing! :D

Chris...I use 8 point crimps. I use more than 8 on Fried Pies. :p

bigjim- no comment. :eek:

Old Fuff - my friend, I believe we all have learned a lot from this thread. Granted maybe not what one expected - a lot was learned nonetheless.

Tuner - my friend, Thank you for sharing so much about the 1911. Enjoy that trigger.

sniff...sniff...still nobody answered my question about ...sniff sniff...nevermind...sniff...sniff...

still nobody answered my question about Dang it Steve ... without diggin back I cannot remember what that was! Hate to hear all this ''sniffin''!!!:p

Youfolks would cry over a 1911 I saw the other day. I was talking about firearms and custom grips with a retired Captain. A voice says "Do you guys like old guns?" We said, "Maybe." This voice says to hang on. A fellow walks back in with some old gunrugs. The first clue was the red vinyl with plaid trim gunrugs. He pulls out a genuine 1911. No finish left BUT, there is a set of bling bling gold AJAX fancy grips installed. He didn't like the factory checkered walnut grips. Threw them away. The guy unzips gunrug #2 and pulls out a pre-war commercial 1911. It sports Hogue finger groove grips and flowery gripscrews. He threw the originals away. He had replaced the hammer with a Commander style. I asked what became of the original. "I threw it away." You ever want to just cry?:banghead:

bigjim said:

When I first read the topic: Old Fuff Nails Tuner

It cause me to experience a mental image that has haunted me for three days.
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Oh you big thilly...Fuffy would NEVER tell anything like that.:p

sm,

We got 'em you can quit your sniffin'...around here they're called mustang grapes. Lots of folks make jelly out of them...are you suggesting I make a pie with them...never thought of that....

Smoke

Edited to add:

It's rumored some folks use these things to make wine. :uhoh: but I wouldn't know anything about that.

:D

You all know I can’t keep my mind on triggers while you gab about delicious Southern Fried Apple Pie (and associated extras). My resistance and moral certainty has totally crumbled in the face of this onslaught. I am undone – totally wrecked – defeated. I can’t stand it anymore! I going to have to go get some apples ….That is why you hang the trigger around the collar of a large dog. Unless your dog is like my dog (who would sell the whole family for a block of cheese) he/she will protect it when your willpower is low. ;)

Ive had tears running down my face from reading the five pages of this thread. If you guys ever do go on tour, im there!

Sapper said:

Ive had tears running down my face from reading the five pages of this thread.

You? Hell, I've shorted out two keyboards! I'm gonna hafta close this one
before I go broke...:D

Mike:

>> That is why you hang the trigger around the collar of a large dog. Unless your dog is like my dog (who would sell the whole family for a block of cheese) he/she will protect it when your willpower is low. <<

You don’t understand Tuner’s totally nefarious ways. He will do anything to get a genuine Colt 1911 trigger, including buying that dog the biggest, thickest and most delicious steak (with or without cheese) that he can find.

Tuner:

If we go on tour who gets custody of the trigger?

Fuff asked:

If we go on tour who gets custody of the trigger?

I'll hang it around my black Lab's neck and turn her loose...If you can catch her before Christmas, it's yours!

What a great thread. I was half asleep when I walked into work today Now I'm laughing and wide awake. Thanks.

When I'm not on-call, get to the store for supplies I will attempt to make one of these fried pies. I do have a cheap frying pan and hopefully it will work. I would pay money to get a good one, but why do that when there are guns out there to buy and I might get another nicer one as a gift.


(besides the one I got came with getting engaged and moving out. It was Jon's he's had it since high school and I took when I moved into my apartment. Funny I had lots of china and glassware passed down from relatives and Jon had all the other essential kitchen stuff.)

Where would I find some of this "lard"?

Oh and you all should be jealous daddy had his cake that mommy makes. Good stuff. I had to go back to work so I didn't get any, maybe today for my sis' b-day I'll have some.:neener: :D

Before you put that trigger on a dogs neck...measure the thing and give the specs ,including weight- Please.

I can catch that dog...I have a way with dogs. I cheat, I spoil and bribe.

If the peppermint won't do it...he he...just a whiff of fried ham with Red-Eye gravy and they will come a runnin'....fried ham, red-eye gravy, grits, scratch biscuits, black coffee, fried pies...

I don't care what kind of dog, they will come at full speed...I told ya I play for keeps...didn't say I played fair...

Brian!!
Get that daughter a cast iron skillet , handle mitts, and fried pie ingredients, and some lard to season that cast iron....for her sister's B-day ...makes sense to me...Gus gets a gift for her sister's B-day...Gus tell her she gets to pick something from the multiples of same Wed gifts later...

We think different down here...

See I wanna know the specs and weight for a reason. *scheme*

He said:
I can catch that dog...I have a way with dogs. I cheat, I spoil and bribe.

Uh huh...Betcha ya can't get this one to slow down within' sniffin' distance long enough to get her attention. You've REALLY gotta see this dog to
appreciate what I'm sayin... :D Her nickname is PollyRocket the Turbo Dawg...and she earned that one.

[...whiff...screeeechhh!!!!....lapping grits with MY red-eye gravy.atop...]

Hey Tuner...this here trigger the one you want?

Thought you said that PollyRocket wouldn't stop?

Red-Eye gravy will do that...at least MINE will. :D

>> I'll hang it around my black Lab's neck and turn her loose...If you can catch her before Christmas, it's yours! <<

See!!? I told you how unscrupulous and sneaky that Tuner was …

>> If the peppermint won't do it...he he...just a whiff of fried ham with Red-Eye gravy and they will come a runnin'....fried ham, red-eye gravy, grits, scratch biscuits, black coffee, fried pies... <<

I don’t know about dogs (cats or whatever) but this would sure work with me …, and I haven’t had breakfast yet … You’re right, you don’t play fair …

Gus Dddysgrl
Where would I find some of this "lard"?

GO to your local grocery store, find the section with the Crisco (that some heathens cook with) look on the bottom shelf...way in the back....big green bucket with dust on the top. Usually comes in 1 gal and 5 gal bucket. Says "Manteca" on one side "Lard" on the other. Might need to visit the hispanic side of town...don't look for it at Whole Foods Market

Don't worry about having to buy a large quanity, there are many uses for good lard....

Makes a good gun lube (in warm weather)
Leather conditioner
wood protectant
Rust preventative
Quiets squeaky hinges
Smooths drawer glides

Oh yeah....you can cook with it too.

Smoke

Brown beans and cornbread (with ham hock)

Fried apple pies

biscuits and gravy (squirrel gravy)

Homemade Fried chicken

grandmaw's mashed potatos

garden green beans (with bacon)

sweet corn (on the cob)

home grown tomatoes (big o'le german mater)

Sweet tea

wild strawberies with milk and sugar


Y'all got to quit this! Good Lord yer makin me hungry
:D

(oh wait, its lunchtime)

Andrew! Don't forget the pan-fried corn bread...We call it Corn Pone, but the lads north of the Mason-Dixon sometimes refer to'em as "fritters".

Sweet Vidalia Onions, and for those in the higher elevations...Wild Mountain Ramps.

Deep-dish Blackberry cobbler made outta berries picked on the side of the road, and peach made with peaches offa grandmaw's peach trees.

Home-made apple cider and real churned butter. Parkay is an insult
to all country cookin'. The stuff won't even draw flies, fer crissakes!


Home-made peach and apple butter on honest-to-Moses biscuits
with a dollop of that churned butter. Real Sourwood honey is as
good as it gets especially when ya had ta rob it from real honeybees!

Half runner beans and Leather Britches...Tomatoes grown under an air conditioner that have enough juice in'em to knock your eye out when
ya stick a knife in'em.

Real chicken eggs that didn't come from the Piggly Wiggly! The ones ya gotta fight the rooster for...

Bacon that came from corn-fed stock instead of steroid-induced meat production.

Talk foody to me baby!!

Cheers...and bon apetite'

Tuner

Andrew17 said:
Brown beans and cornbread (with ham hock)

Fried apple pies

biscuits and gravy (squirrel gravy)

Homemade Fried chicken

grandmaw's mashed potatos

garden green beans (with bacon)

sweet corn (on the cob)

home grown tomatoes (big o'le german mater)

Sweet tea

wild strawberies with milk and sugar


Y'all got to quit this! Good Lord yer makin me hungry




Now imagine this food served on a warm day on a shaded porch in a quiet southern town. The street shaded with 100 year old oaks filled with Spanish moss.

Served by some of the most beautiful and gracious southern women you can imagine. The women in my father’s side of the family still live in and around Live Oak Florida. They are all so beautiful they take your breath away. When they speak their voices have a southern melody that sings to your soul. Angels each and everyone, from a time and place with a different pace and rhythm, that sadly is slipping away forever. We are all diminished with its passing.

Its not about the food, its about the life. You can buy a southern biscut. But if its not served by a woman that loves you and has your comfort in mind its just bread to stay alive and nothing more.

The Southern woman is not leaving because she wants to. She is leaving because men have broken our covenant with them. We promised to cherrish and provide for them, to put their welfare first in all things.

We men have failed. We have not given our women the tools they need to
to make a home and shape the lives of their familys.

Sooooo to get this back on topic were Lodge Cast iron skillets melted down during the great war to make real honest to goodness triggers and did the lard seasoning on them make for a better grade of steel.



and is the trigger in my 1952 Systema any good....?

Now imagine this food served on a warm day on a shaded porch in a quiet southern town. The street shaded with 100 year old oaks filled with Spanish moss.

Sounds like Savannah Gee-Ay or Old Charleston S.C. :cool:
I can taste the Mint Julep...I can hear the bullfrogs and crickets and
Katy-dids....Uh...that's Cicadas to alla you northern folk.
I can just hear that ol' lonesome Whip-poor-will over in the distance...
Anybody know what a Shike Poke is?:p

I have got to add that there is a section of PA where women will stand beside ya and still make up a meal that will stick to your ribs

Red skinned New potatoes served mashed with the skins on and new churned butter browned and poured over them

Corn fed Venison or beef london broiled on a charcoal grill

brown gravy

real fresh from the field, Silver Queen sweet corn

Suger Peas boiled ever so slightly and served with baby onions, and lots of browned butter

Fresh baked whole wheat dinner rolls still hot from the oven

Sweet Tea, yes My wife knows how to make sweet tea.

Strawberrys the size of a Golf balls serves over sourdough cake

and My favorite triple threat chocolate cake, with chocolate chips mixed in the scratch cake with her famous chocolate fudge frosting, best served cool from the ice box.

Served around a table in my wife's kitchen that will seat comfortably 24 where the little ones can be reached and the old ones can be listened to.

Cobbler! Now ya done gone too far.

I'll see your cobbler and raise you a whole hog cooked over an open pit with homade bar-b-q sauce, mustard potato salad, and bread-n-butter pickles .

on corn bread: (half my life I never new you could fix it in a pan that wasnt cast iron with a handle on it):p

Ahh.. ramps. Ramp is an old Appalachian word that means "sleep alone":D
Still, ramps and potatos=heaven on a plate.




I can just hear that ol' lonesome Whip-poor-will

:sung: "I'm so huuungry I could cryyy":p

Andy, I'll see yourI'll see your whole hog cooked over an open pit with homade bar-b-q sauce, mustard potato salad, and bread-n-butter pickles...

and raise ya a hot Pecan pie with two tablespoons of rum mixed in with
the goody part, AND a quart of homemade Muscadine wine.

Trumps!

Tuner

Wait, wait wait.....I'm confused :confused:

Andy said: whole hog cooked over an open pit with homade bar-b-q sauce, mustard potato salad, and bread-n-butter pickles .

I thought you folks were slaw people.

You want food?

Grandmother used to cook Fried Chicken that you could smell miles away while riding a sweaty horse. Her biscuits were heaven, her rolls just as good. Green beans and new potatoes (Same pot people) gravy that would make the dogs fight.

Also known for her Chicken and Dumplings, Pot roast, Boiled tongue sandwiches, Chicken Fried Steak, Chicken Fried Liver, Sourdough Biscuits, Pan Fried T-Bones, Salmon Croquettes (with honey), Chicken Spaghetti, Squash Casserole, and don't even get me started on her breakfast or baked goods.

dang I miss her,

Smoke - wiping away a tear.

and raise ya a hot Pecan pie with two tablespoons of rum mixed in with
the goody part, AND a quart of homemade Muscadine wine.

Durn yer hide! Ya done made me drool all over the keyboard.:D I give I give
Uncle! Uncle! :p

Green beans and new potatoes (Same pot people)

Add a ham hock and I could eat for days.

Strikes me the trigger deal is gettin way bogged down under all this load of culinary flim-flam!!:rolleyes: :p

I still think water pistols at dawn (not that Dawn will like it much - she's very sensitive!), 10 paces ... is only way to really resolve this.:D

I still think water pistols at dawn (not that Dawn will like it much - she's very sensitive!), 10 paces ... is only way to really resolve this

Put her in a white T shirt and I'm there!

Smoke

Are we talkin the 5 and Dine variety squirt guns or them thar newfangledsupersoakersgonnagityarealwetrightnow type

if the new type why not just get 2" fire hose...

But I'm all for the 5 and Dine type I want a clear red one shaped like a Luger

Dang all this talk of fine food and I can't even spell DIME.


I volunteer to be a second who'll have me...



I can eat and shoot, I can cook with the best and still tell if an iron skillet is seasoned with out even putting it on the stove, and I really appreciate a good will built..... Oh, Trigger, thats what we were talking about.

So who needs a second.

I kind of like to do it this Eve, but she is real bashful and won' t stay out at night, so we could wait for dawn

Ya think Dawn looks good in a wet T-shirt, ya oughta see her plum nnnnnn...uhmmmm never mind 'bout that... :o

Rut-Roh...A whole 'nother topic has emerged here. :uhoh:

Git it back on topic! Okay okay! Dawn trips my TRIGGER! Now
the thread's legit again...

:D

Hmmm ... dawn in white T-Shirt .. now THAT does have some appeal! :evil: :D newfangledsupersoakersgonnagityarealwetrightnow Only way to go Brian! And ...... 2" firehose just ain't portable!

So ... we have a second, Brian has volunteered ...... (thirds and fourths not required) .... just need a time and place. 4th July would be a good time ..... and we'll all bring fireworks. Place tho - now that's more problematic to be able to please all contestants (combatants? :p )

I'll have words with Dawn ... get the T-Shirt set up .... :eek:

Well if we do it this July 4th, I'll be in Alaska. Of course it might make things more interesting with Dawn:D

Triggers. We were talking about triggers.

Concentrate Smokey ol' boy.

:D

Brian:


>> and is the trigger in my 1952 Systema any good....? <<

If it's original to the gun it was made the same way, and out of materials similar to, the trigger we've been (sometimes) discussing. Don' let anyone talk you out of it.

NOW YOU PEOPLE LISTEN UP!!!!

All of this food talk has got to stop!! I've gained 20 pounds jest reading this thread. You sure know how to get to a guy. Pretty soon this will turn into a cooking forum and we'll all die of overweight.

Such a way too go .......... :)

Let me see if I have this right.

You want me to fight Turner in a water-pistol duel, but you're going to bring Dawn in a wet, white T-shirt ....

And I'm supposed to pay attention to Tuner?????????

Yeah, you almost got it Fuff...

Picture this:

You and Tuner are to use water pistols at twenty paces. You'll be standing under 100 year old moss draped Oaks, while the scent of sm's fried apple pies drifts around on the breeze. Dawn will be there in a white T-shirt covered in lard. You will attempt to shoot her with the waterguns and she will brain both of you with a well seasoned Lodge cast iron skillet.

All this transpires while the dog runs off with the trigger and burys it where it will be found in another 50 years by an amateur gunsmith and attempted to be installed in a Llama. He will grind it away into an unrecognizable piece of metal and use it for a sinker. And go buy a nylon trigger for his gun.

I think thats about it. Good luck to you both. :D

Smoke

(SOB!)

(WIFF) And all I tried to do was take Tuner to the cleaners over a genuine Colt 1911 all-steel trigger...

An' now I either going to expire from an overweight condition, get shot, or hit with a cast iron skillet ...

I should have stayed in bed ....

Smoke ............ http://www.bedford.net/design/images/smilies/lol.gif ....... truly inspired. :D

So the warm up act for the Fuff and Tuner traveling road show is this Dawn getting her T shirt wet by audience participation using plastic water pistols with plastic triggers. [ I want a see thru Green one , blue is second choice...why do all plastic water pistols have white plastic triggers btw?]

Opening Act --we learn from two fellas how to identify real genuine made from billet gummit triggers and how to fit them in a real honest to goodness combat pistol called 1911.


First Intermission --we get , FRIED apple pies, and while we nap...'cause the two fellas doing the show needed a nap...we supposed to dream about Sexy Italians' and American Classics.

Hold up ...

....what the heck are the ladies gonna get to get wet with water pistols? What they gonna dream about? You folks gonna get a skillet up the side of the head and be sleeping with the dogs, if ya don't think of the women folk around here...back the truck up....a bit more - good!

Now what would the nice women folks like to shoot water pistols at? Gus...speak up...don't mind daddy, he is sneaking another pc of cake , your fiance'....he keeps playing with that durn sword...he ain't watching ...

You ladies have to forgive some the fellas around her, they were not raised right, no manners and such. Probably has to do with the fact they never had a load of rocksalt fired at 'em while "retreiving" a melon....

I should have stayed in bed .... only if it was a good old brass bed with a feather mattress.

Steve said:

Probably has to do with the fact they never had a load of rock salt fired at 'em while "retreiving" a melon....

Brother you coulda gone all week and not said that! I've got a few memories of rock salt, and there ain't NONE of'em good...

I'll do the duel with Fuff on one condition...I get to use Dawn for a
human shield. I'm in love, and ain't even seen the gal yet. Ain't
the power of suggestion somethin' though?

Ouch!

Tuner

Tuner! You no-good lowlife!!! Who said you should get the ah ... young lady? You know that I'm a gentleman of the old school, and could never hide behind .... a wet T-shirt. I wouldn't be suprised if you showed up in some kind of a black outfit with two nickel plated water-shooters.

I'm almost to the point of thinking you'd put that genuine Colt 1911 trigger into a Llama .... Or even an "old" Auto Ordnance.

Ah just don't know how our readers can stand all of this melo-drama ... :p

Dawn...

Dawn...

Hmmm....

Are we talking Dawn Wells - MaryAnn from Gilligan's Island - in a white T-shirt here?

Granted, she was prettier than Ginger, but she IS a little long in the tooth, now... (And probably other place too. Gravity's a BITCH!)

..Joe

Listen up!!

Just found a pic of Dawn ... having her morning ablutions! :evil: :p :eek:

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=1055533

I think there is enough for both of you fellas to hide behind...

Boy...melon patches conjure up some memories ...nevermind...

Chris - you better give the gals reading this equal time. I know all the women folk used to make a big deal out of that Mel Gibson fella. Now he up and went got lot of folks to buy them "italian high cap nines". At least in Were Were Soldiers his sidearm was a 1911...

Sam Elliot, there ya go, post a pic of Sam...women folks can drool and HE did know how to use a 1911 in the WWS movie!

There is a reason I don't put salt on melons...now natural NaCl...HI Art's Grammaw...;)

I Cannot Wait until Old Fuff taunts Tuner with a original style Recoil Spring Plug...Walnut grips...

Ya'll just think you've been entertained.

Kinda like watching a teenager that took his cutie to the the drive in ...mind on other stuff...and drives away with the speaker still on the window...cord just a danglin...

This is more fun than watching teenagers oiling and greasing anything than creaks...Mom & Pop turning right around and degreasing with alcohol and brake cleaner....

...stuttering ....down at the corner drug store about this "hot date" you have tonight...picking up the date and instead of going out , you stay in and play Monopoly with her parents. Date all huffy and mad when she walks you to your car at 11pm as you head out. " Didn't know you were SUCH a fan of Monopoly.

Didn't know your daddy was the corner druggist either....

Chris be careful around that Dawn gal...

"You'll poke your eye out kid."
:evil:

I agree with Tuner, real butter is the ONLY way to go. Now the doctors and universities are saying it's better for you than margarine.

I will disagree with the lard though. I much prefer Crisco. (the original, not that butter flavored abomination - sorry Loretta I know they paid you to tell those lies)
I've had lard seasoned skillets go sour on me it you don't use them for a couple of weeks. I guess the quality of Lard has slipped a little in the past 30 years or so. Crisco also seems to be just a little more non-stick.

Nothing like a good Mississippi Round Steak sammich fried in Crisco in a cast iron skillet.


Now as for Barbeque, I'll be firing up the grill at 9am Sunday to have them done by 6pm. I got some nice pork ribs yesterday and I just finished making my secret sauce. Damn I wish I could find decent Mutton up here.

"You'll poke your eye out kid." - forget the Red Ryder, I knew I preferred to pull a "trigger" on White Flyer[tm] targets for a reason. Focus on the target, I keep telling folks focus on the target - Heck I've Told Chris to focus on the target a bunch of times...Chris makes some excuse about seeing two targets...Doubles no big...err Double not a problem if you focus before pulling "trigger".

Ribs, I don't see any ribs, what ribs?

I have no idea why I gotta ask this...

Blues Bear - do you boil your Ribs in water before you slow smoke BBQ?
I will accept a rack of ribs via any carrier you choose...we gonna have to get into BBQ sauce afterall I see...

Lard...well its hard to find, last I had - well didn't seem to be like it used to.
Crisco, hey I grew up with momma putting a scald on chicken , in a cast iron skillet using Crisco. I take momma to the store and she and I noticed that newfangled Crisco with butter ..."honey some stuff ain't right in the world no more".

Old Fuff, you done "triggered" a bunch more than you realize, my friend...and we ain't done yet.

Butter, real butter...anyone else notice that all this new fangled stuff the folks came out with to "protect us" all them years ago ...well it seems the original was the best way to go - from the get go.

Human body designed to break down certain things a certainway , fats, surgars, proteins, carbs...heck carbs we get energy from carbs - ATP [adenoline triphosphate] is energy.

Got momma off some meds and she is better...if we didn't muck up the food, we wouldn't muck up the human body, we don't need most of these meds...

Kinda like a 1911...once you deviate...other stuff needs deviating...set off a endless spriral...

Started introducing all them perservatives and such for fast food and microwaves...folks got all out of sorts. Yeah so we salted and dryed food and needed it to last longer back in the old days...Abilene was the last place before heading west. Didn't have all the transportion and refrigeration back then...that was different.

Folks today lazy, don't eat right, don't exercise, and pass this down to kids in their genes, and these kids in their genes...DNA double helix didn't used to have MIM parts, and fast food perservatives till a few years ago.

Some stuff is basic and not meant to be messed with...Lesson in all this, applicable to most anything out there...just read the signs and pay attention.

Boil my ribs?
You blasphemer you! :cuss:

You lose the flavor of the meat if you boil it first. You might as well just sprinkle the rub and pour the sauce onto cardboard and chew on that awhile. Plus the ribs will fall apart before they're done.

Next thing you know you'll be asking about barbequed CHICKEN or some other weird thing. :rolleyes:
Actually you can sorta barbeque dark meat chicken just not the white meat.


BluesTheRibKingBear

Double Tap.

I can't blame my ISP either...what I get for reading and looking at pictures on this thread...:D

I asked if you boiled the ribs. Calm down. :D

I just get curious how folks do different things. Hey I'm always learning, folks are great to learn from.

Hey folks just "think" there exists arguments over Triggers and MIM parts, 9mm vs 45...etc.

I've seen grown folks, women pulling hair and men get to bare knuckles over Pork vs Beef ribs, Boil or Not Boil the ribs, and I moved out out of the way- okay my table was knocked over - in Houston over "Does one put slaw on a BBQ sandwich or not?".

Hey since you moved from KY ...you know regional differences exist...


:D :D

Okay...you using wood or charcoal? Charcoal with wood chips? About that sauce...Hey this stuff is as serious and crucial as fitting a "trigger" proper.

I use charcoal with wet wood chips for the smoke. I can keep a consistant heat longer in my Weber with coals. To properly use wood you need BIG chunks o' wood.
Even bigger than Dawn is used to.

I don't argue about Barbeque, Chili, Religon or Politics.
Each is a very personal thing.
Each has it's pros & cons.

Now my personal opinion is that Beef ribs are good, just not as good as Pork. As for brisket? Well while Texans can make it taste good I think there are better ways to prepare beef. I must admit though that I have done more than my share of pulled beef barbeque.
When I lived in Kentucky, when the local National Model Railroad chapter (Division 8) had their semi-annual swap meet, I prepared and they sold sold about 20 pounds of pulled beef and 30 pounds of pulled pork in my secret sauce at each one.

Mutton makes great barbeque but it's a little more work. Chicken legs and thighs are the easiest to barbeque, but chicken just doesn't absorb the flavor as well as other meats. Which is why you can't really barbeque white meat chicken. Oh you can coat it with sauce and cook it but that ain't really barbeque.

As to wet or dry ribs I prefer wet.
I dry rub mine, cook them for a while, then slather them and cook some more. :D

Slather is one of those technical terms that should need no explaining.
Sorta like skosh, smidgen and a tad bit.

As for the slaw on the sammich? I can take it or leave it. To me good barbeque stands along.

As to slaw vs potato salad as a side. I like both.
Slaw is better with pork.
Potato salad is better with beef.
However REAL macaroni & cheese is best!
Nice al dente Barilla macaroni with Velvetta.
Mac & Cheese is the ONLY form of cheese that should come anywhere near barbeque.
Another good side dish for barbeque is boiled rubarb.

Now the best dessert for barbeque is blueberries with vanilla ice cream.
You know the vanilla that has so much real vanilla flavoring in it that it's yellow.


Now, if you can't appreciate a meal like that then perhaps you deserve a cheap sheet metal trigger riveted to an aluminum bow.

Bear...You cook barbecue on a gas grill??? Say it ain't SO!!!:what:

I appreciate the sharing, I really do.
Like blue and wood, good triggers...BBQ and fixins' - well one has to experience it...cannot explain it.

I soak the wood chips, okay the chips are the size of one's shoes... Last longer, smoke slower. I keep tabs on the water pan....

In the city I use charcoal, out in the country I may use just wood...depends.

Ice cream made with , real vanilla and cream...blackberries, I got addicted to blackberries. Raspberries is another one that I like. Okay, I have my favorites, but they ain't no bad berries, fruit...

Chickens...I smoke chickens, cornish hens, turkeys...yep fowl has to done different. NOT BBQ'd , but smoked.

You don't tell folks about the onion wrapped in foil do you - I don't. I figure the fella doing the cooking deserves some perks...core the onion, real butter, black pepper wrap in foil and bake for a bit...shush, don't tell anyone...

You cook barbecue on a gas grill Heck no it ain't so.
A real Weber. You know the big round, domed charcoal grills.
http://www.weber.com/photo/741001large.jpg

Weber's are made so well that they even have serial numbers!

And they use no MIM!:neener:





Don't get me started about my foil wraps.
No one gets to see what's in there until supper is served.
And no I won't tell you the secret ingredients.

sm, y'all ought to come visit Washington around late August.

Blackberries all over the dang place.
They grow wild everywhere. You can pull off the side of the road and just start picking.
We have some big ones we call marionberries.
(No they were called that long before that fool in DC was even born.)

My favorite berry is a good ripe red raspberry like my Grandma grew on the farm up in Iowa. But I have found that blueberries just go better with barbeque.
Raspberries and blackberries seem to go better with fried chicken.
And cherries go better with skillet fried pork chops.
Just my opinions of course.
YTBMV (Your taste buds may vary) ;)


And strawberries? Well you toss them in a blender full of ice and Bacardi.
But only AFTER you've installed the triggers and locked the safe.

Arguing BBQ will get a man shot, so I'll just state some facts as I see them.

Pork Ribs are best...as a life long cattle produer it pains me to say that Beef ribs just aren't very good.

Brisket is heaven sent when done properly. Slow smoke over wood, not charcoal. Gas doesn't enter into the equation. (Unless you start the fire with it) Takes about 16 hours to do it right. Dry rub. Sauce is a condiment, not a baste.

We don't pull beef.

Smokers are best made large capacity, I have yet to see a small one that does a very good job. 250 gallon tanks are a good place to start. Mount on wheels.

SOme folks make slaw....I see no place for it.

Beans are art.

Homemade bread to sop the juice. (sop is one of those technical terms that should need no explaining. )

Lots of pickles are required, cheaper the better.

I have the worlds best homemade icecream recipe (my Grandmother's so don't argue, you ain't changing my mind:D )

Chickens aren't BBQ (with all due respect to my Grandfather that made very good chicken, he even called it BBQ'd) Chicken on a stool is best.

sm, the onion is a secret? ...thought everybody knew that one....goes on the same time as the sausage for snacking....

As a courtesy to the fine folks at THR I offer the following....I don't tell everyone this one:

Ten pounds of potatoes
Ten pounds of Onions
3-4 pounds Jalapenos.
2gal Lard (can substitute Crisco for you heathens)

Heat oil (lard) in large outdoor propane cooker (fish/turkey fryer)
Throw in equal amounts potatoes and onions, and a double hand full of Jalapenos. Fry until brown.

Remove from oil and place on cardboard flat the beer came on, lined with paper towels. Sprinkle liberly with salt, pepper, Parslic(tm) brand Garlic Pepper (very Important).

Watch your fingers. Have a beer handy. Be prepared to eat yourself sick.

Regards

Smoke

I'm a heathen, well been called worse. Should have heard what the fellow called me using an old series 80 with 200 gr lead SWC .
He was using a newfangledicanthitnothinbutdontilookcool - Something or other. :) Couldn't hit squat - gun wouldn't run, give points for missing he'd beat me like a drum...

Where be the fried pickles?

Take 100 cornish hens. A BIG deep fryer "pan" this big around and so deep made of real steel. [ uses arms to describe]. Requires a HUGE propane fish fryer- on steroids.

Now the cornish hens have been rinsed and rubbed with a secret "rub". Takes a good while to prep the hens -I had to enlist help. So I holler at the person with the "secret rub" recipe handed down in her family.

I ain't stupid. :)

I asked, I pleaded, but the cute blond in short short cut off jeans and the tank top that didn't make it to belly button, tanned and barefoot - wouldn't tell me. I really tried tho'.

Anyway you rub these all down, inside and out, . Find something to do for 24 hrs. :p:)

Gather all the HUGE ice chests and old towels, The HUGE mega tongs, and that Commercial Grade stainless steel Temp gauge. Fire that mother up. Toss a kitchen match in the oil - if it lights, the oil is hot enough.

One can get 6 /7 cornish hens in this "pot" at a time. Don't take long, when they float - they done. Put these in the ice chests with the towels to keep hot!!

Cooks so fast, no grease, zip , zero, zilch. Hey I ate 4 just to make sure...

The Old Fuff will be temporarily absent while he seeks phyo-logical counseling from his favorite chef. The unfortunate side effects of this thread has caused a deep-seated calorie crisis. Who knows where he may end up? The authorities report that he was last seen wearing a white T-shirt and carrying a matched pair of Llama water pistols with plastic pearl grips. :eek:

goat tamales...


























barbque = :barf: :barf: :barf:

The authorities report that he was last seen wearing a white T-shirt and carrying a matched pair of Llama water pistols with plastic pearl grips.
ROFLMAO

I wonder if these had ILS, and safeties. "Its for the children"...

"Mommie...that man just had a AD, maybe a ND...don't know mommie what you call it - but he did it" :D



Sorry Old Fuff my freind...I couldn't resist. Joking and kidding ya.

See what happens when you are nice to folks? MY advice is to fire your doctor , eat in moderation what you want, chunk most meds ya taking and keep on teaching and sharing with us about how REAL Guns are made and work.

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He's gone over the edge!! Quick! Sieze all his Colts, Rands, and Smith & Wesson Hand Ejector Models before he gets to the meds!! Dibs on
any U S & S pistols ya find!!! I'll fight to the death over a Singer!

Tuner, you rat!!!

I knew you'd take advantage of this poor ol' senior citizen ...

You won't settle for a genuine Colt 1911 all-steel trigger, oh no - not you...

You want everything that goes with it.

First the frame, then the slide, and a barrel, and springs - - till you got a whole gun.

Tuner, you rat!!!

I knew you'd take advantage of this poor ol' senior citizen ...

You won't settle for a genuine Colt 1911 all-steel trigger, oh no - not you...

You want everything that goes with it.

First the frame, then the slide, and a barrel, and springs - - till you got a whole gun.

Tuner, you rat!!!

I knew you'd take advantage of this poor ol' senior citizen ...

You won't settle for a genuine Colt 1911 all-steel trigger, oh no - not you...

You want everything that goes with it.

First the frame, then the slide, and a barrel, and springs - - till you got a whole gun.

ROFL Fuff! Gotcha so shook up ya hit the SEND button 3 times!:D
I'll delete 2 of'em soon as I can see...

Cryin'Tuner

ROFL Fuff! Gotcha so shook up ya hit the SUBMIT button 3 times!:D
I'll delete 2 of'em soon as I can see...

Cryin'Tuner

Forget about the barbeque...Does Dawn have a younger sister? :evil:

Does Dawn have a younger sister? Yep, she sure does.

But she's bilingual and only dates waiters. :neener:

But she's bilingual So Bear ... Dawn has two tongues eh .. this'll get Fuff and Tuner all in a lather!! :evil: :D

Just don't use dawn on an iron skillet.

Just don't use dawn on an iron skillet. Oh .. THAT Dawn ..... the one that makes bubbles .............. :D :D

From the Lodge website:
http://www.lodgemfg.com/useandcare.asp#natural


3. After cooking, clean utensil with a stiff brush and hot water. Using soap is not recommended, and harsh detergents should never be used. Avoid putting hot utensil into cold water. Thermal shock can cause metal to warp or crack.

4. Towel dry immediately and apply a light coat of Pam or vegetable oil while utensil is still warm.

Re: Care of Dawn

1. If you don't know by now, you are beyond the scope of our help...

Dawn? Two tongues? Bilingual? Heck, a cunnalinguist, cool! :evil:



OK, all southerners gotta like fish fry's!

For an appetizer:


In a large deep pan full of boilin beer with crab boil add,

fresh caught, uncoated finger long, cut filleted pieces of crappie, sand

bass, bass, perch, etc. and boil until they float.

Remove and instantly put in a pan of ice water to firm up.

Remove and lay on foil on grill. Serve with cocktail sauce for dippin.

Either warm or cold, makes one hell of a southern po-mans shrimp cocktail!

(catfish isn't quite firm enough and tends to be harder to do)

Yummm

I have a great homemade cocktail sauce.

I'm afraid Tuner and Old Fuff will put it in the squirt guns, get a jam and sue me for "defective" plastic Llama squirt guns...

We get Tort Reform...I'll share...:)

This is the damndest thread I've ever seen:p

It sorta reminds me of the time I saw "Beach Blanket Babylon" in San Francisco, and got to see Elvis & Madonna sing a duet.:evil:

In the decrepit hopes of posting something GUN related - and I don't mean the Guns of Navarone:what:, I will ask:

Did anybody ever make short fully machined 1911 triggers?
:evil:

i do. i take a long fully machined trigger, cut it short with a cutoff wheel on a die grinder, dress the edges on the bench grinder, and cold blue it. works great on llamas.

Did anybody ever make short fully machined 1911 triggers? Yeppers. They surely did.

Colt made them into the 1930s.
Some of the Argentine Sistemas had them.

Some of the Norwegian Kongsberg-Colts had a medium length trigger that was slightly shorter than the long 1911 trigger. All of the Norwegian triggers (long & medium) were fully machined.

Forget the water pistols! Get Dawn and her sister Pam in T-shirts and throw barbecue sauce all over'em! (Don't even ask why.) Better check Pam's ID first. Don't tell Fuff about this...He's gettin' on in years, and it
could be fatal if he uses vegetable oil on his utensil. Come to think of it....So am I! Invite 2 or 3 paramedics to the fish fry! Somebody shoot Andrew Wyatt before he can find a real machined trigger! Shoot anybody who sends him one or sells him a Dremel!

Stand by for further orders!


Tuner

The poor Fuff has totally lost it now. He is blubbering while try to mix a slurry of barbeque sauce and bore paste to polish his triggers ….

Needs to know … how much vegetable oil should he add??????

Needs to know … how much vegetable oil should he add??????
About a recoil spring guide plug filled to the top is about right...

But ... But (sob!) I can't decide ... Should I use a ...

Standard Government Model plug??????

or

A Commander plug ??????

or

An Officer's ACP plug ???????

There are so many different plugs ... (wiff) I just don't know ....

Standard Gov't Model Plug.

See another reason for folks to get rid of FLGRs ...no measuring device when need. ;)

He's all done. Put the straight jacket on him and take him away. Grab his Rands. I got dibbs on hammers, triggers and thumb safeties. Ya'll can fight over the magazines and spring plugs. I'll shoot any man who touches the Singer or the Union Switch! The Privateers get first choice on the Ithacas. Colts are up for grabs if anybody can get past Bluesbear.

Good thing we stopped him before he slung a pot fulla slurry all over the girls. No tellin' WHAT he mighta done if he hadda got'em all slicked up!
We done our duty.

Barbecue chefs! Front and center! Proceed...

The rest of ya...As you were. I'll be in the area all day.

Gunny Tuner

...he he he...hold my RC...

....I gotta life size poster of Dawn holding a plate of fried pies. Now this here poster is in a wagon, PollyRockets' lease is attached...So while Tuner is chasing and pantin' after that wagon and contents...I can "swoop in"... Rands, Unions, Singers, Colts,parts...and finally that dad-gummed trigger that started all this!
:D

Don't worry Old Fuff, shift changes are a good time to sneak in to you some fried pies, BBQ, and fried catfish fillets...;)

You do want purple onion with your catfish - right?

Trigger?:scrutiny:

Fuff's got a trigger?:scrutiny:

Well...Whydahell didn't he just say so?

FUFF ol' pal! heh heh...I'll jump through hoops and cook ya some bobby-cue and hook ya up with a couple of hotties in wet T-shirts and make ya
a gen-yew-wine Southern Pecan pie, if'n ya send me that trigger ...buddy...
Fuff? Old pal? Speak to me!!! See what ya'll went and done? Now I
ain't EVER gonna get that dang trigger!:banghead:

See what ya'll went and done?

Pot can't call the kettle black - even if make from cast iron, billet steel... :neener:

I'd report this thread to "a certain" moderator, my monitor ain't got room for all them collies...not enough room for PollyRocket to run...:D

OK ok, I'll see one of each food group listed, one Dawn, one sistah, a pot, a black kettle, a PollyRocket, and raise ya'll a dozen Bull Frogs. That'd be 24 legs mind ya!

Tuner, ol’ buddy …. I’m sorry …

I can’t send you that genuine solid-steel Colt 1911 trigger right now because I’ve been committed for observation. Somebody called the cops when I started slinging that slurry around. Of course the first thing they did was come out to the house and confiscate anything and everything that might be associated with guns. I objected, but they said it was, “for the children,” although I don’t know why one of the little tykes would need an US&S or Singer …

My “Mental Counselor” said they had to sedate me because I kept mumbling something about, “Dawn coming with the “fried in barbeque sauce, apple pie …”

The good news is that he said he might loosen the straps on this here jacket if I could fix the feeding problem he has with his .45 …

Dawn coming with the fried in barbeque sauce, apple pie ?? Sedation will help Fuff ... and keep you from any further risk of rash decisions.

If you happen to find a nurse attending you named Dawn ... just make sure she wears a wet T-Shirt ... I believe that is very therapeutic - except for elevated blood pressure readings .... not always good with guys in our age group!:p

Now - if you can bribe with offers of fixing 1911's then that's good ... cos you'll be out quicker .. as long as you take the meds prescribed.

Tuner will wait - he has patience ... like the cat waiting at the mousehole ... ''as long as it takes'' ...... Haha!:D

If Tuner comes down here he'll end up in the same padded room ...

What good does it do too have a nurse named Dawn when they have you in a jacket with straps on it? Dang thing is worse then a shoulder holster ...

I mean Old Fuff...here comes the Calvary!!

We have Tuner and his dogs, Chris on a Motorcyle, Brian and his daughter, Smoke and I burning up the highway in a pick up and cutting across fields, Blues Bear is blowing doors off from his direction...

Later...

Amid the dust and devastion, The Institution is a shambles. The "Mental Counselor" is now wearing a straight jacket, and in Observation himself at another facilty, his "therapy" is to watch Eddie Eagle tapes.

Old Fuff is back home, good whiff of Hoppe's No. 9 and is wide-eyed and bushytailed. All better now , Old Fuff is back to working on steel guns with real parts.

Chris is gonna do a write up on his method of using a BFR in 45-70 to "open doors" shooting weak handed and riding his motorcycle up steps.

Brian and Gus are headed back with cast iron skillets...the Institution's kitchen has no use for them anymore. We still ain't figured out what Gus wanted with the all the stuff she stuffed in a rented U-haul - you'd think she was setting up house, or something. Raided the linen supply, all the canned goods, furniture and curtains from the Admins office. Whew! that desk was heavy!

Blues made off like a bandit with the musical stuff he found in the basement...saxaphones, horns...

Smoke and I are taking the long way home. Taking short cuts across open spaces, chasing critters"out of the way" at night....I never knew the long cord on a Q beam could be used as a lasso...Smoke taught me that trick...[ Smoke - hey is that fella with the annoying flashing blue lights still trying to keep up....can't tell with all the dust back there...hold on!]

Tuner finally got home with the trigger, getting all fitted up and gonna give a report.

Old Fuff is better than new. Found a old Model 10 with some rust and pitting, internals pristine...he is happy and the world is right again.

When he takes a break, he has Tuner's famous coffee, fried pies and all sorts of eats to munch on...

:)

dang that fella with the blue lights is persistent...hold on Smoke, gonna jump another ditch...

Steve .. excellent appraisal all told.:) Chris is gonna do a write up on his method of using a BFR in 45-70 to "open doors" shooting weak handed and riding his motorcycle up steps. Actually the .454 Casull opens doors well too! But ''up steps'' .... nah ... I only ride down steps ... it's easier! But less crash resistant ... that's the downside!:D

I believe the last part about the coffee and stuff ... But I generally prefer my model 10's to have pristine finishes, unless of course the price is too good to pass up ...

And on a truly good day it will be a Model 1905 Hand Ejector (Military & Police) 4th change - as new, in the box.

Will I did say that I've been committed ...:neener:

...Old Fuff back to his old cranky self. :D
Gee Old Fuff, you gonna tell me you'd pass on aModel 10 - rusted , pitted finish with good internals for $125...
I don't think so...I may be dumb - I ain't stupid - sure not crazy...
:p

Does that old mod 10 have a 5" barrel and the long action then I'll offer $120 for it...

Brian:

Your judgment is impeccable, but if the revolver has the old “long action” it will be a model 1905 Hand Ejector (Military & Police), not a model 10. By the time those came along the long action guns were long gone.

I point this out because if you are looking, and specify a model 10 rather then a Military & Police (or M&P) you may not find what you’re seeking.

The best ones (for a shooter) were made after World War Two between 1945 through 1947, because they had all of the features that made the long action’s so good along with the hammer-block safety that is still used today. Look for guns that have the long action, and a letter “S” as a serial number prefix.

They can sometimes be found for attractive prices because they’re only “an old .38,” and no one else knows what to look for except you and I.
:p

OOPS!!!!!! I think I took too much it won't all fit in my little apartment. Now let me see all I really care about is a good skillet.

Did I get one?

Well we gotta wait 25 more days now to see if I got it. Oh darn. No fried pies or fried mac and cheese.

Hmmm since I got enough stuff now do y'all want to come and have a big cook out with all the above listed goodies? MMMMMM I'm sure JOn'd love this. He knows I can cook, but if y'all bring it then we don't have to waste our dawn on it you can do that. ;)

Besides Jon isn't into Dawn's just me. :neener: :evil: :D

Sorry not enough of me to go around.

:neener: :neener: :neener:

Oh great, I 'm going to try and post after Gus's post. If I trip and fall...can I blame my shoelaces were untied? :D

Yes you rec'd a cast iron skillet [ Didn't she daddy? :p ]

You told us that you were going to "ask" daddy about storing all the extra stuff until you and Jon got a bigger place. Something about having daddy wrapped around your little finger with a certain head turn, wink and a smile.

I ever make it back up North, darn right I'll to run by and meet you folks. Since "us kids" have to stick together - may I suggest you just have us all meet at your Dad's. Hey , get their kitchen dirty and use their groceries. I have a way with folk's Mom's...they even let me take out the garbage. :)

Nope, You have great folks, sounds like you found a great guy. Beauty is the person with a smart mind, good heart, morals and ethics. We think you are kinda special around here Gus, I mean it.

I got a gut feeling you have a Mom, that though she prefers to "entertain" folks, meaning " ya'll go sit and visit and I'll cook" - she would have no problem with folks doing various jobs in her kitchen, visiting, and having a good time getting food ready.

More to this responsible firearm ownership than guns...

I figure we can all get entertained watching Tuner and Old Fuff clean the kitchen afterwards...:D

This is ultimately the nuttiest thread ever posted on THR....sniff...sniff...what's this? I smell cornish pasties and fried pies....hmmm...bah, the lure is too strong...must eat....

This is ultimately the nuttiest thread ever posted on THR You noticed?!! :p

Well ... Dawn's T-Shirt is still soaking wet so ... there's more mileage available yet!:D

The only gun I regret selling is a 1905 4th change 5" barrel with sn 954xxx had a great smooth long action, matching Serial numbers, grips and all, and had most of the good mods for a M&P. I traded it for $80 to help fund my S&W 35-1 and really have no regrets. Got to look for a replacement some day. I still have a 5 screw K38 that shoots even better, but just like we all need a 1911,with a good trigger, every one needs an old pencil barrel M&P even if it is an old Mod 10.

I gotta get my Sistema out and check that trigger closely, but I won't tell yodatuner.


Speaking of nuts I would like some good cashews...

I went to a local store and bought some cashews and as I walked out I left them on the counter and just before the door shut the saleman yelled "hey Brian, Your nuts, and I said, "sure when did you figure that out. "

Happy Birthday To You,

Happy Birthday To YOU,

Happy Birthday Dear TUNER.

Happy Birthday To YOOOOOOOOOOOU!


And maaaannnnyyyy more!

:D :neener: :evil:

It's my birthday??? Well...So it is!:D

Thank ya mucho BluesBear mah fren...Honestly, if Kelie hadn't reminded me
last night, I woulda plum forgot it...:rolleyes:

Okay, for my birthday ...I WANT ALL THE PRE-WAR COLT 1911'S AND
SMITH & WESSON WHEELGUNS!!! I'll pay shippin'...:cool:

Almost forgot...I want all the pre-64 Winchesters too. Send'em on!

Tuner<--------waiting patiently for the UPS man....

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!

I would send you some if I had any, but I have my Ruger, a little .25 and a stolen G19(from daddy...mommy).

Wish you the best on your special day!!!!!!

So does Tuner win since it's his b-day?

What does he win if he wins? (Not sure I really want the answer to that.)

Tuner wins the following
bent iron skillet shot by a 9mm
half of a fried peach pie
a Llama squirt gun sans trigger(it was nylon for goodness sake)
a soggy wet T shirt (empty)
a bent barrel cap gun
a plate of pork ribs, dry rubbed, not boiled, but the collies licked off all or the BBQ sauce




















OBTW happy birthday

Tuner wins the following
bent iron skillet shot by a 9mm
half of a fried peach pie
a Llama squirt gun sans trigger(it was nylon for goodness sake)
a soggy wet T shirt (empty)
a bent barrel cap gun
a plate of pork ribs, dry rubbed, not boiled, but the collies licked off all or the BBQ sauce

I ain't buyin' it...Everybody here knows that a 9mm
ain't gonna bend no iron skillet...:p

That skillet was bent when we rescued Ole Fuff and P95carry went up the ramp of the Uhaul on his motorcycle and knocked it off the pile of junk and stuff Gus was trying to shove in that rented U haul and it rolled on to the road and was hit by sm and bluesbear in the Pickup and bounced out under some Semi full of Nervegas driven by Nightcrawler and his sidekick nailed it with couple of rounds from an MP-5 as it slid on some spilled Dawn while it still had the residue of some fried applepies in it that were serve with some beef ribs cooked on a Weber grill and served withthat secret onion.
So Yodatuner You Da Winner!!!!!

Happy Birthday Tuner!

So Whaddya get from Old Fuff? A trigger perhaps? :D

You wanna a Jackalope? Err...umm...somehow Smoke and I "ran" into to one on the way home...Smoke has a recipe for Jackalope jerkey and you can mount the rest as a trophy in your den. :p

bent iron skillet shot by a 9mm Hahaha! Glad you gave the full explanation Brian ... you had ol' Tuner wonderin otherwise!!:D

Mind you ... I may have an ol' skillet and could abuse that with some .454 or 45-70 .. THAT would show (a little)!:evil:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOHNNY!

Seriously .. all the best to you my friend ....... :)

Just get on with trigger hunting to take your mind of it!?:p

How does one cook Jackalope????

Grilled
Smoked
does it taste like chicken or mutton
slow BarBQ'd
Chicken fried in a good Cast iron skillet with LARD





And How do you keep the Antlers, or are they Horns on Hot Glue or EEEEPoxy


Does JB weld work???


Do you Dry rub them or marinate?????


We want to know.....

Happy Birthday Tuner!

ITS Tuner’s birthday!!!! :what:

Nobody told me … and I get so emotional over birthdays, cuz at my age one is never sure they’ll see another one …

So now I’ll have to send Tuner that genuine Colt 1911 all-steel trigger, and I have no doubt whatsoever that it will be the only one he gets …, and it’s a whole lot better then an (empty) wet T-shirt … :neener:

However if he thinks he going to get his sticky paws on my … ah …golden age … Colts and Smith & Wesson’s he has got another thought coming. I have no way agreed that he should get any of them. Why for all I know he might take to putting MIM and Polymer/Nylon parts into ‘um. And if that wasn’t enough, he still has that pail of water he used to test that unfortunate Springer … :eek:

But I wish him many happy returns anyway. :D

How does one cook Jackalope????
Ask Smoke, I was not around to witness the "family recipe". I thumbed a ride to where I hid my truck. For a few days we kept having these weird flashing blue lights running up and down the highway....

I caught a ride with the cutie that works in her daddy's Bait shop. Err...humm...I kept forgetting where I hid my truck. I figure Smoke was gonna yell at me for being late for supper , I figured the cutie's daddy was gonna fuss at her for not showing for work...Hey we figured if we gonna get yelled at anyway...stay out all night and make the yelling worth it.

Hey Smoke you know that #2 Washtub with ice that the cold beer is kept in at the bait shop, near the 'tater chips...yeah the one Otis the town drunk always reaches in for his first cold beer of the day...well cutie and I snuck back in after jugging for catfish [We were at a pond anyway] ...boy is Otis gonna have a handful when he grabs "Mr. Whiskers" instead of a Pearl...:D

Them little gunshots and flashes of light around midnight around down the county road was not us...must have been somone else...we were out by old man Taylor's place...fishing and taking in the moonlight...

Jackalope tastes like something between venison and rabbit. :D

Smoke smokes his Jackalopes of course.

I also have recipes for snipe (I'll take anyone hunting that wants to go), and cows that have been tipped. We jerk chupacabra for special occasions, weddings, Chrsitmas etc.

sm, you stay away from them bait shop girls! You'll end up hooked.


Smoke

Nah...she is "barbless".

Hey, I got the trigger finger trained for more than triggers, one handed, strong or weak for "Catch and Release"....working on retention, downed man drills...

well cutie and I snuck back in after jugging for catfish Was that a Freudian slip?

Back where I came from we "gigged" fish and frogs. The "jug" came out later.
Of course if one of the other giggers had jugs it might have been more interesting.
This sounds like an episode of "The Man Show".

Well, early to bed so we can get up at the crack of dawn.

Blues you may have a Weber...listen up will ya. :)

Bait the line with chicken livers, attach to a jug , in the old days we used glass jugs , now-a-days it is old Chlorox bottles or similar. White shows up good, glass was better reflecting the moonlight. Toss these out and find something else to occupy the time. When the jugs are bouncing like crazy, you have a fish. Got a boat / canoe - paddle out and retrieve. If doing this from the bank attach the jug to a mainline before tossing in - and pull in.

I really liked the glass jugs better, especially for rivers. If no fish just shoot the jug and sink the whole mess. Of course now-a-days folks don't teach kids to wear shoes while swimming. Everybody used to be taught to take care of feet. Military does. I spent time all over my neck of the woods and Canada canoeing and portaging, 'Nam Jungle Boots were great for this...

ta da...Jug Fishing. Best Brush up. Word is in the Redneck Cup one has to shoot jugs...We also have the Redneck Duck hunt too. Thats when you hunt on the big river- Bass Boat full throttle and shoot on the move and get as many as can before they take off. :D

And a gal can't wear a slip under a Tank top and short cut off jeans. Bear. my friend..you been away from KY too long. That cold, rainy, depressing climate is affecting you :D

You need to come back to the old "five and dime" and get rejuvinated.

Well we have Old Fuff all better. We best keep an eye on BluesBear tho, Might have to make another Road Trip.

Hey we can barge in on pax, she won't mind, I mean 5 boys already, she won't notice a few more. pax we want to crash ...err... vist that Mexican place after we check on Bear. They just thought your kids were a handful...they ain't seen "nuttin yet". :p

Hey Smoke...bring that other JackaLope, figure they ain't got one in that Mexican Joint. Unless we toss at a another fella with flashing blue lights first ,we'll bring ya one...that one officer didn't know what he'd hit, got all shook up over it...we gained ten miles on that delay trick...Smoke is crafty, he made a "JackaLope band" for the JackaLope and attached to a collar...supposed to contact PETA if ya find one. Got folks thinking PETA is keeping up with these critters...Smoke is crafty is allright...

NO telling what all sorts of phone calls we "triggered" ....

When the jugs are bouncing like crazy, you have a fish. I think Dawn just caught two. :what:

ROFL
I have a really good comeback, but Art's Grammaw keeps a washcloth and a bar of soap - real handy. :D

I'm laughing so hard , I have tears in my eyes, and I just spiiled water all over the papers I just printed off a PDF file I needed to fill out, along with some gun parts I was looking at...:)

To fit a trigger you need the proper tools.

To fish you need the proper tackle.
As well as the right lures and bait.

I believe this is one of Tuner's tackle secrets.
try saying that 5 times really fast.

Tuner's tackle secrets
Tuner's tackle secrets
Tuner's tackle secrets
Tuner's tackle secrets
Tuner's tackle secrets

:D
Heck. I'm having a hard time reading it through the tears of laughter. Forget trying to say it.

I go to the kitchen, gun parts in hand to dry and lube. Well a 18.5 # recoil spring is pretty easy to retrieve from a disposal...I gotta go back and fish for the hammer, sear and disconnect...excuse me , I'll be in the kitchen with a magnet dealie and those grapper thingies, fishing in my disposal...wait...this here stem from a apple don't go on a 1911 - right? :p

More research required.

I may have discovered a way to tell if a part if MIM or the real deal.

Community Coffee grounds, [ with Chickory] from a disposal stick to MIM, they did not stick to the parts from Ed Brown.

Yep got all the parts...

Tuner, HHHHEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPP, This is what I get for wanting to gloat....:what:


I detail stripped my Sistema to find if it has one of these great triggers... and Of course it does :neener:
but when I put it back together this happens

On safe, grip safety out, gun ok no hammer drop.
On safe, grip safety in, hammer drops just off the hooks but not to the half cock position.:cuss:
Off safe, grip safety out gun, ok no hammer drop
Off safe, grip safety in, gun has a nice 2 stage trigger, take up slack, pull through and nice crisp pull.

What did I do??????

:rolleyes: :banghead:

I had the slide off the frame while doing the above post. Does having the slide off the frame change this relationship, is this a disconnector relationship with the slide problem OR a loose nut between the grip and the chairseat.

I just put the slide back on and the thing works fine.

OBTW I was using my finger to prevent the hammer from hitting the frame.

Where is DOUH smilie :cuss:

howdy Brian,

I answered your PM before I saw this. Yes...the slide off may change the
geometry of the lug and sear. Put the slide back on and try it again.

Standin' by...


Tuner

Putting the slide back on does the trick.
Is this what should be or is the spring on the disconnector too tight???

The hammer fall only happens when the slide is off, so not a problem when loaded but does this signify a too strong disconnector spring??? could this cause problems else where...

What needs to be done to take the slack out of the trigger??

Howdy Brian,

Nah...Nothin' wrong with the springs. When the slide is off, the thumb safety just moves farther up and the area of the lug that blocks the sear
changes positions, and it lets the sear move a little...or in your case, almost enought to let the hammer fall. A tolerance stack in the other direction might not let it happen. As long as it doesn't allow sear movement with the slide on, you're golden.

Not much that you can do to take the pre-travel out of the trigger except silver solder a shim on the stirrup...That's comin' from a tolerance stack too.
You could also retrofit a McCormick trigger with the tabsfor adjusting the pre-travel...

Luck!

Tuner

You could also retrofit a McCormick trigger with the tabsfor adjusting the pre-travel...

Do I sense a Tuner lookin' for a trigger???

Nope tis good as it is, will use it well.

Hey ... Brian's mention re Sistema reminds me ... since fitting Chip trigger to mine - I have an unused ''made-in-one-piece'' trigger sittin around!

Guess I oughta keep it with the gun really.

Well if you don't want it Tuner and I can fight over it ... :evil:

Not much that you can do to take the pre-travel out of the trigger except silver solder a shim on the stirrup...That's comin' from a tolerance stack too.
:D
I mentioned that earlier, I did , I really did. I learned it from reading Hallock's book.

Still got a LOT to learn, always will. Don't think I will ever learn enough to know what Tuner, Old Fuff, Kennan, Sample...others here know.

Doubt I will ever find out if Tuner got the durn trigger that started this whole mess either. :p

Tuner and I can fight over it ... If that were the case Fuff .. then we'd just have to get back to water pistols at dawn (and Dawn has moved on now - since her T-Shirt dried out!) ... :D

Tuner and I can fight over it ...
Please do.
My source for free homemade Fig Perserves is no more. Maybe someone will speak up if'n you two keep fussin' over triggers. :D

Tuner tell them about that genuine Sistema sear I sent to you.

The one that had been ground to fit the thumb safety.

The Bear said:

Tell them about that genuine Sistema sear I sent to you.

The one that had been ground to fit the thumb safety.

Lordy...That was sad, wasn't it?:rolleyes:

Fact is...I've done that too, under special circumstances.

If I had a genuine GI or commercial Colt sear that I didn't want to
insult with a file, and was using an aftermarket replacement sear,
I'd fit the sear to the safety instead of the accepted method.

If I was restoring an old Colt that I had picked up with the thumb safety missing, and was lucky enough to find a NOS safety that hadn't been touched...I'd fit the sear to the safety. GI sears were cheap at about 2 bucks a pop back in "those days"...Thumb safeties were pretty high even then, and starting to get scarce. Sears were everywhere. "File/grind on the cheaper part" was the standard wisdom.

The one that you sent? I've got a theory on what happened to that one.

The slot in the lug had a tolerance issue with the thickness of the frame, and wouldn't rotate into position, no matter how much was filed off the engagement surface on the lug. The installer was following the
"File the cheapest part" dictum, and kept grinding away at the sear, not realizing that the problem was the fit of the safety to the frame...By the time he thought about checking to see if the safety would rotate with the sear OUT of the gun...the sear was toast. I've seen this one happen a few
times, with the safety being ruined. One guy brought one to me with that
problem. He was at his wit's end. When I showed him what it was, he was almost in tears...laughing. Thank the Lord that he had ruined an
aftermarket, Near-Steel safety instead of a real one.

Note to thumb safety swappers:

Check the movement of the safety in the stripped frame FIRST!

Cheers all!

Tuner

I get back to the office from a delivery run and Dawn is sitting on my Desk.



?????





Not That Dawn but a bottle a dish detergent Dawn from our supplies of truck wash. Gus Ddysgrl had been straightening up around the warehouse and found it amoung the junk out back.



Then I gets home and My sweetheart informs me that we are having Fried Apple Pie for supper, Now I am going to get FAT. 2 pies and some ice cream wooohoooo!!!
Cooked in a well seasoned Iron skillet with my 1911 nearby mmmmmmm!!

Jody mixed 'em up and I cooked them, boy they are the way to go.

D R O O L .................:p :D

BTW -- that Dawn Brian .. the nickname is ''Bubbles'' ! :p

It will be remembered that the Old Fuff (Hereafter the Party of the First Part) offered Tuner (Hereafter the Party of the Second Part) a gem, a true jewel – a genuine Colt one-piece, all steel trigger for a 1911 .45 pistol. Such an offer might cause a reasonable person to conclude that the 1st Party’s sanity should be examined.

This offer resulted in a long discussion between various parties relative to various subjects not necessarily related to genuine Colt one-piece, all steel triggers, such as (yum-yum) Southern Fried Apple Pie, technical specifications concerning the required frying pan and the attributes (or lack of same) of other lesser forms of apple delicacies. In addition, other topics were presented that are … were … ah … to delicate to repeat here, except to point out that they were ah … um … documented with some interesting illustrations that definitely did not portray a genuine Colt one-piece, all-steel 1911 trigger.

Although the Party of the Second Part pleaded and begged, and even made substantial good-faith counter offers, a serious matter continues to exist … Namely, that the Party of the Second Part has not received the genuine Colt one-piece, all-steel 1911 trigger.

This is completely the fault of the Party of the First Part. Besides goofing off he was retained (if you couldn’t guess) by a local member of the bar (legal bar that is) to assist in researching and drafting documents, statements, affidavits, petitions, and all other kinds of other legal nonsense for a red-hot case that was coming up. The pressures and short-time requirements of this unexpected windfall kept the Party of the First Part’s nose to the grindstone, and forced him to put off a number of other matters.

However to prevent a lawsuit, the Party of the First Part has packaged, insured (for 100 bucks, which is a lot more then the gun cost back when) and shipped the Genuine Colt, one-piece, all-steel 1911 trigger via. the United States Postal Service (that is said to retain some sort of relationship with the C.S.A.) and sent it to the Party of the Second Part by Priority Mail.

By doing so the Party of the First Part pleads that he should be released from any liability that may have arisen because of his prior acts or inactions, whichever the case may be.

Meanwhile the Party of the First Part will be occupied with researching issues surrounding Southern Fried Apple Pie with morning coffee.

:D

Let it be known that this agreement will be null and void if the party of the
Second Part allows a Llama or Charles Daly 1911 to come within 10 feet of the aforementioned trigger. Neither is the party of the Second Part to
attempt to alter or molest the trigger in any way other than to insure
proper function and fit. Neither is the Party of the Second part allowed
to sell the pistol in which the trigger is installed. Willing the pistol to
a suitable heir is allowable subject to the approval of the Party of the
First Part.

I, Tuner... being of sound body and somewhat questionable mind, do freely and without undue coercion agree to abide by the terms set forth in this agreement.

Signed:

John "Yodabird Tunerfish" Travis

Dawn thinks this has all worked out very well ... but wonders why her T-Shirt is still so wet! Oh well ..... :evil: ...... guess we gotta put up with it. :D

I have asked that she call on Tuner and Fuff personally :p

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=1055533

Whilst not an orphan, I will voluteer my services as a true and suitable heir, tho lacking in true relationship, do not lack in zeal and purity in the desire to return to the exact science of engineering and quality.

:D :D :D :D










In other words Glocks be Dammed! Long live Fuff and Tuner

Fuf and Tuner for President!:what:

:D :D

Brian quipped:

Whilst not an orphan, I will voluteer my services as a true and suitable heir.

Okay...but ya might hafta fight my ex-wife's oldest boy over it. He's
keepin' an eye on the project closely, and has threatened to kill my
descendants if it goes to anybody but him...along with one of the US&S
pistols. His younger brother wants the Smith & Wesson Hand Ejector models...and is probably willing to murder me in my sleep over the
5-inch .357 magnum that ain't gotta "M Dash" number on it. (Now
I KNOW Fuff is gonna be knockin' on my door..:p )

Later on!

Tuner

:D :D :D

The Party of the First Part accepts the "Reply to Motion" submitted by the Party of the Second Part. He has no objections to the Party of the Second Part's plans and intentions concerning Exhibit #1 - the project pistol, but demands that pictures be posted of it on this forum, so that the many badly educated and brought up younger members of THR family can see what a genuine 1911 pistol looks like.

However concerning the afore mentioned Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum ...

The Party of the Second Part had better sleep with one eye open. On second thought he'd better sleep with both eyes open and keep his collection of dogs at hand.

DAWN IS GOING TO CALL !!!!!!?????

Oh my .....

:D :D :D :D