Endure shame and ridicule for a new gun?
Chupacabra
June 8, 2004, 01:51 PM
So I was at the gunshop the other day, hoping to lay my hands on a shiny new SigPro 2009. Unfortunetly, they only had the new model with that funky stainless outline finish and it was a bit out of my budget (The standard model is over a hundred bucks cheaper!). I took a look at a couple other firearms (Taurus 24/7 looks pretty good) and I drooled over the 1911 case, but I left the store unsatisfied.
When I got home, I gave the issue of purchasing a new firearm some more thought. What do I really need or want? I already have a concealed carry firearm (H&K USP40c) and a 1911. I know I want something in 9mm, mostly just to take to the range and plink with. Sigs are awesome pistols, but the 2009, even though logically it is a great purchase (relatively inexpensive, excellent trigger, it's a SIG!), it isn't what I really want.
For a while now I've been kicking around the idea of getting a Beretta 92FS. There's something about them that I find appealing. In my mind, they are classy, sexy pistols, and I grew up watching the action films of the 80's so they have this cool mystique about them. However, when I told my brother about this possible purchase, he laughed in my face and started going off about how the Beretta is such a crappy pistol; too big for the caliber, hard to clean, bla bla bla bla bla (total BS in my opinion). Sooo, if I were to get one, I will never hear the end of it. Every time my brother and I go to the range and I pull it out of the case, I will be mocked and ridiculed.
Is it worth it to acquire a pistol that will possibly get you disowned from your family? :what:
Oh the conflict! Oh the humanity! :banghead:
:evil:
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MikeJ
June 8, 2004, 01:58 PM
Absolutley! If you like the Beretta then get it and be sure to practice with it before you go shooting with your brother. That way you will be able to amaze him with your skills and you will have the last laugh.;)
pauli
June 8, 2004, 02:00 PM
confuse him. get the taurus version instead. :)
mod12
June 8, 2004, 02:08 PM
chupacabra, ever hear of cain and abel?;)
M2 Carbine
June 8, 2004, 02:10 PM
I don't have or want a Beretta 92FS but I've shot them (at least the Taurus clones) and know what they will do.
Move your target out to 50 yards and see if your brother's pistol choice will keep up with that Beretta.
But don't challenge him if he's shooting a 3 inch barrel Kimber:D
http://img44.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/kimber_tu_50_yards_3.jpg
WhoKnowsWho
June 8, 2004, 02:15 PM
Just be sure to not let him shoot it when you get it. People make complaints about every pistol, the Beretta is not immune.
Andrew Wyatt
June 8, 2004, 02:20 PM
I used to not ike berettas.
then i shot nina. now i like at least one beretta.
Chupacabra
June 8, 2004, 02:45 PM
Thanks for the encouragment guys!
I've decided that I'm going back to the shop this weekend to pick up a brand spankin' new Beretta!
And If my bro is reading this...
:neener:
PS - My bro is an absolute wizard when it comes to marksmanship. He can pick up any handgun and put every shot in the black at 30 feet. Me on the other hand...not so good. I dare not challenge him to a duel! :D
wasrjoe
June 8, 2004, 04:46 PM
I haven't held a pistol yet that feels better in my hands than a 92FS. :) Good luck purshasing your Beretta! They are good pistols.
mod12
June 8, 2004, 04:48 PM
chupacabra. a rascal that shoots that like deserves at least one "gotcha" during a "one ragged hole" session. :neener:
CZ52GUY
June 8, 2004, 04:51 PM
And If my bro is reading this...
:neener:
That's the spirit!!!!
Enjoy,
CZ52'
Dain Bramage
June 8, 2004, 04:55 PM
Confuse him even more, get the Helwan version. :D
WonderNine
June 8, 2004, 06:13 PM
Beretta 92's are very easy to clean....
Standing Wolf
June 8, 2004, 06:30 PM
You should have seen the old shooters' faces when this newbie bullseye shooter showed up at the range with a Thompson-Center Contender.
Chupacabra
June 8, 2004, 06:56 PM
Confuse him even more, get the Helwan version.
Strangely enough, there was one in the case!!!!
:what:
:D
Dionysusigma
June 8, 2004, 07:26 PM
"Helwan" version? Isn't that the one with the CZ-52-looking grips and in SA?
I saw one LONG ago, but are they really that close to a 92FS?
Wait--get a Stock Competition 92.
http://www.beretta.com/images/immagini_maxi/P_92-96-98STOCK_maxi.jpg
http://www.beretta.com/frame_tabellaprodotti_2002.asp?sgmt=24&Model=92#
:evil:
HSMITH
June 8, 2004, 09:18 PM
Dang, from the pic Dion put up it looks like Beretta finally figured out where a safety goes on the gun:what: :D :D THAT is what I would pick up if a 92 type platform was on my mind and I had an objection to the Taurus brand for some reason. If we all told the truth the Taurus 92 is every bit the gun the Beretta is, is $200 or so cheaper, and has the safety where even us smaller handed people can use it (plus cocked and locked carry but lets not totally confuse things).
I have shot the 92/M9 extensively and it is a FINE gun. I have seen extreme reliability, VERY good accuracy and reasonable prices across the board. It is a big gun for a 9mm, but it is a SERVICE gun meant to be carried in a holster not hidden away. It is very easy to maintain too. My ONLY complaint is the safety lever is in a terrible spot for people with smaller hands, and it makes the gun a real pain for me. Other than that I very much like them. For a range gun they might be one of the best choices out there.
Majic
June 9, 2004, 10:21 AM
Beretta originally had the safety on the frame. That's why the Taurus has theirs in that spot (they are built on old Beretta machinery). When Beretta finished the contract with Brazil and sold the plant and machinery they moved the safety to the slide.
Dain Bramage
June 9, 2004, 11:39 AM
Dunno that much about the Helwan. SOG has them for sale on their site, and calls them "A high quality copy of the famous Beretta 1951".
Dain Bramage
June 9, 2004, 11:49 AM
...Oh, and about cleaning: Jet Li seems to think they are easy to disassemble!
Also, it's freaking Seattle. Tell your brother to respect diversity or you'll bring home something in pink plastic (I'm talking a gun here).
By the way, which gun shop do you frequent?
Chupacabra
June 9, 2004, 11:54 AM
By the way, which gun shop do you frequent?
I go to a couple. Ben's Loans Inc in Renton has a pretty good selection of new and used stuff with decent prices. I also go to Wade's Gunshop in Bellevue but they are overpriced and I haven't bought anything there since my USP. WSI (also in Bellevue) was a great shop but they went out of business. :(
Dain Bramage
June 9, 2004, 02:51 PM
I've rented guns at both Wade's and WSI. I second Wade's being expensive. They're a bit pretentious too.
I didn't like having to show that I already own a gun before being allowed to rent. I understand that they had a few suicides with their rentals, but none of the other ranges I use have this requirement. My Dad was using my only modern handgun at the time, so I dragged down an Italian BP revolver clone to show them. They don't allow BP shooting, and I didn't have any ammo, but it was good enough to rent their guns. I guess I could have dragged down a bus tire to show the ability of putting my head under it!
Now I usually hang around at Sam's Gun Shop in Everett. Nice people and a decent short indoor range. They allow pistols and rifles with everything except "AP" ammo. Don't know the exact definition of that since they allow steel-cored stuff like Wolf.
For pure price, I haven't been able to beat Federal Way Guns near Tacoma.
Chupacabra
June 9, 2004, 04:23 PM
Now I usually hang around at Sam's Gun Shop in Everett. Nice people and a decent short indoor range.
I've been there a couple times to use the range. It's a little farther for me to drive than Wade's, but the people are much nicer and the lane fees are a lot less!
:D
George Hill
June 9, 2004, 06:32 PM
I love the Berettas. Take a look at the 8000L... nice carry gun. Easier to CCW than a full size 92.
FJC
June 9, 2004, 06:38 PM
If YOU want it, and YOU can afford it, get it!
At one point in my "acquisitions" of firearms, I went through a period where I started to question why I was buying certain ones. Why was I buying a Walther PPK/s when I had better, lighter pocket pistols? etc, etc.
Finally one day during that time I had an epiphany. I just wanted them, and that was enough reason.
If you carry, own something that you can shoot well and is reliable for carry purposes. After that, get what makes you happy. :)
Skunkabilly
June 10, 2004, 01:56 AM
I used to not ike berettas. then i shot nina. now i like at least one beretta.
Rock on :evil:
I used to get crap at the ranges for not having a Glock or 1911, but I think I just turn the ear-pro off :D
only1asterisk
June 10, 2004, 02:14 AM
I think the Beretta is a better gun than the SipPro anyway. You may want to check out the prices at cdnninvestments.com (http://cdnninvestments.com) They have stainless 92FS Brigadiers with night sights for $550 and 92G for $500 (or did recently). The money you save in taxes will pay for your shipping and transfer.
David
Croyance
June 10, 2004, 03:29 AM
Chupacabra, your brother may be able to use a gun, but I'm not sure how many he as taken apart. The Beretta is one of the fastest to field-strip.
There are some nooks, but that just takes a swipe of the cloth.
And by 30 feet, you mean 10 yards, right? Doable with any make of pistol.
cracked butt
June 10, 2004, 08:49 AM
It seems that everyone who doesn't have a Beretta bashes them, or better put the only people that bash Berettas nver owned one. Theberetta92 is a very fine gun regardless of what all of the armchair commandos have to say about it.
Buy one, you'll like it.
cracked butt
June 10, 2004, 08:53 AM
Is it worth it to acquire a pistol that will possibly get you disowned from your family?
The beretta has a neat landyard loop on it, perfect for giving noogies with.
Afterall, what are brothers for?:evil:
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